It their anyway to force the phone to require a password in order to shut down the phone? This is a HUGE flaw that nobody seems to be focusing on. What's the point of having a security app on your smartphone if they can just shut it off and your done? Anybody feel the same way? It's like having a security system in your house and allowing anybody to simply shut it off without breaking a sweat. Are you okay with that? I messaged Lookout Mobile Security and Sent a Request which you can do so here once signing in https://www.lookout.com/help. Just click on Send a Request. Hopefully they can implement this vital feature in their security app. If theirs any smart people out their who can make this feature on their own I applaud you. Your phone will let you know where its at even if its off using Lookout online, but without out the phone screaming (a feature within Lookout that makes your phone emit a really loud sound) it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack. Click on the link and let them know you want this feature. It just makes security apps on ANY phone totally useless without this feature.
What is a thief going to do with a phone they can never turn on? Sure you can't use the security features with it off but they have to turn it back on eventually.
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What kind of logic is that? You swear a person will wait years for the thieve to turn it back on? REALLY?
joshnichols189 said:
What is a thief going to do with a phone they can never turn on? Sure you can't use the security features with it off but they have to turn it back on eventually.
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What kind of logic is that? You swear somebody will wait for years for the thieve to turn their phone back on? Really?
its written in its hardware to shutdown after holding the power button for 10 seconds, you protect your information with encryption, locks so the thief won't bother, that's all, not much you can do once they install clockworkmod, no offense
if the mobile provider does block the imei, you can just use it in another country.
google needs a database to centralize all licensed androids/imei with gmail account to lock it of its stolen or un-authorized and report it.
Well it could be used for other purposes too.
For me for instance. I drove home yesterday from work while suddenly I felt a small vibration from my pocket. Looked and it was from the phone turning off... I must have sat wrong. I'd love a "lock" to not have this happen again.
HOWEVER... there are apps known for freezing your screen (i.e. TouchControl atm).
If you get a freeze you're .... ****ed! so not sure if I'd like that, but it would be a nice feature if you feel safe that you won't get freezes.
Password to turn off phone? It's useless lol.
Take out battery?
ADB reboot?
Anyways, no matter what they're gonna have to turn the phone back on. If not, why would they steal the phone?
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What kind of logic is that? You swear a person will wait years for the thieve to turn it back on? REALLY?
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I understand your issue but all you have to do to turn a phone off is long press power for around 10 seconds and it automatically shuts down. By that logic removable batteries and SD cards are incredibly dangerous as well. If a thief gets your phone and knows what they're doing, there's not much you can do to get your phone back. The reason most people have passwords on their phones is really just to stop friends messing around with things, since it's fairly unlikely someone will steal your phone if you look after it properly.
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I understand your issue but all you have to do to turn a phone off is long press power for around 10 seconds and it automatically shuts down. By that logic removable batteries and SD cards are incredibly dangerous as well. If a thief gets your phone and knows what they're doing, there's not much you can do to get your phone back. The reason most people have passwords on their phones is really just to stop friends messing around with things, since it's fairly unlikely someone will steal your phone if you look after it properly.
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Most thieves DON"T know how to do this. Either way this shouldn't stop the feature from being their. Just because somebody can means we shouldn't?
lol this is comical.
The only thing they would have to do is let the phone die within a day by the battery running out. Then they could charge it with the phone off, and proceed to thievery as normal.
If they were to implement this, I can just see the 1st thread after this 'feature' is enabled
"Help! My Phone froze and now I need an RMA"
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lol this is comical.
The only thing they would have to do is let the phone die within a day by the battery running out. Then they could charge it with the phone off, and proceed to thievery as normal.
If they were to implement this, I can just see the 1st thread after this 'feature' is enabled
"Help! My Phone froze and now I need an RMA"
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A day is more than enough to find your phone when stolen if it hasn't been "TURNED OFF" manually.
I'll tell you what's comical, the responses I hear lol
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Really? lol I could put it in a shoebox in my closet. Good luck getting a GPS read on it, and even if you did it's only accurate to 30 meters and I live in apt. complex.
So there goes that theory
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Really? lol I could put it in a shoebox in my closet. Good luck getting a GPS read on it, and even if you did it's only accurate to 30 meters and I live in apt. complex.
So there goes that theory
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What kind of shoe box we talking about? Most thieves aren't smart enough to know these things. The first thing they will do after taking it is turning it off. If it requires a password how will that be possible? I know this solution will not end world hunger or war, but what it will do is provide a bigger window in finding your phone and that's all we need. Is time not relevant to you?
#1 I treat my phone like my wallet (since it is w/ Google Wallet) which means I don't pull it out and set it on a table at a restaurant/bar, I don't hand it to people I don't know who say "hey bro can I use your phone real quick", I don't set it down at a party/friends house/anywhere. It's always in my pocket. You'd have to beat me down to get it, so slim chance of that (good luck..)
#2 Everything I do is password protected (i.e. lockscreen, Google Wallet, Play Store purchases) and I can disable Wallet remotely and change my PW to my Google account remotely.. all my pics/music are in the cloud so there's nothing to lose/steal from my phone
#3 *IF* someone was lucky enough to get their hands on my phone somehow, the last thing I would worry about is if they were able to flash/reset it quickly because chances are the amount of time you're talking about would be ~6-8 hours at best on average unless you were at 100% charge when they stole it
#4 It would cause more problems than it would solve as phones tend to freeze here and there, I guarantee *YOU* would be the only one suffering any consequence of the implementation not some theoretical thief.
123456789fg said:
It their anyway to force the phone to require a password in order to shut down the phone? This is a HUGE flaw that nobody seems to be focusing on. What's the point of having a security app on your smartphone if they can just shut it off and your done? Anybody feel the same way? It's like having a security system in your house and allowing anybody to simply shut it off without breaking a sweat. Are you okay with that? I messaged Lookout Mobile Security and Sent a Request which you can do so here once signing in https://www.lookout.com/help. Just click on Send a Request. Hopefully they can implement this vital feature in their security app. If theirs any smart people out their who can make this feature on their own I applaud you. Your phone will let you know where its at even if its off using Lookout online, but without out the phone screaming (a feature within Lookout that makes your phone emit a really loud sound) it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack. Click on the link and let them know you want this feature. It just makes security apps on ANY phone totally useless without this feature.
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Great username, explains a lot.
123456789fg said:
What kind of shoe box we talking about? Most thieves aren't smart enough to know these things. The first thing they will do after taking it is turning it off. If it requires a password how will that be possible? I know this solution will not end world hunger or war, but what it will do is provide a bigger window in finding your phone and that's all we need. Is time not relevant to you?
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I live in an apartment, good luck getting info on which unit I'm living in.
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exb0 said:
I live in an apartment, good luck getting info on which unit I'm living in.
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I think I'll just repost this again once the smart people come back from spring break. Addios.
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I think I'll just repost this again once the smart people come back from spring break. Addios.
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good luck :3
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good luck :3
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Don't need it.
123456789fg said:
A day is more than enough to find your phone when stolen if it hasn't been "TURNED OFF" manually.
I'll tell you what's comical, the responses I hear lol
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How dumb are you? If the phone dies there is no finding it. You don't have to turn it off manually for it to die.
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I think I'll just repost this again once the smart people come back from spring break. Addios.
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Again, are you thirteen? Spring break was last month.
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Don't need it.
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You really do need a lot of luck at this rate.
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I guess I just need to vent this out...
But yeah... lost my nexus one.
Went to cheesecake factory. Took out my phone and played with it. Then... I placed it on the chair and totally forgot about it when I left the restaurant. 10 minutes later I realized I didn't have my nexus one with me ( when I was in the car... ) went back in... and go figure... my phone isn't there anymore. I went to ask the person in the front desk, and she told me she didn't have my phone.
So then... I called my phone... like more than 10 times and no one picked it up... Few hours later, I tried calling again and it went straight to voice mail. I guess that person found out how to turn off the phone ( took the battery out? ) or hard reset it.
Sigh... whoever stole my phone, I hope he/she dies. <^>
FCK!!!
Do you have insurance? Or any of the mobile tracking software on it?
It was probably Steve Jobs. Sorry for your loss.
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Do you have insurance? Or any of the mobile tracking software on it?
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Neither... =(
If you have a gmail account linked to the phone and he access your emails you can track the ip on the gmail site then take the ip address to the police.
You dont have the assurion insurance from tmobile or att?
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If you have a gmail account linked to the phone and he access your emails you can track the ip on the gmail site then take the ip address to the police.
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Thing is, I use a pin ( to access the phone ) so... he wouldn't be able to figure out my pin, meaning... he will not be able to access to my gmail and other things.
And no... no insurance.
However, he WILL have access to my pictures and stuff... though that doesn't really make a diff.
does google concider a login into your gmail account when the phone syncs? If so then you could look at googles logs and see the ip address.
ah that sucks. hope he/she dies guess we lost a nexus one member
I am so sorry for your loss.
I'm sure we're all at risk for something like this happening. Maybe I should reinstall wave secure.
Very sorry for your loss. I've forgotten my blackberry in a restaurant once. left it on a corner edge of the table behind the salt and pepper rack. Never gopt it back.
I got my N1 two days ago and wondering if there are security and tracking software that also has the capability to prevent device reset if N1 is stolen.
melmotion said:
Very sorry for your loss. I've forgotten my blackberry in a restaurant once. left it on a corner edge of the table behind the salt and pepper rack. Never gopt it back.
I got my N1 two days ago and wondering if there are security and tracking software that also has the capability to prevent device reset if N1 is stolen.
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Wavesecure from market
to the OP sorry for your loss
I feel your pain I don't know how I would react man sorry for you.
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I lost mine too yestarday....
I feel your pain...
baaaaawwww
Def install Wavesecure in the future. Track the phone, and wipe/lock if needed.
So you hope somone who stumbled across a lost phone dies because you were forgetful enough to leave your phone lyring around?
Real nice.
is there a free alternitave to wave secure?
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So you hope somone who stumbled across a lost phone dies because you were forgetful enough to leave your phone lyring around?
Real nice.
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an honest person would have turned it in. people forget stuff all the time, so dont be a **** be a dude.
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an honest person would have turned it in. people forget stuff all the time, so dont be a **** be a dude.
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exactly. it would be a douche to not do the honest thing
but yea today i almost lost my nexus one too. i was a lowes getting stuff for the bathroom since we are redoing our bathroom and i was looking at some lights and i left my phone in a space behind a few boxes to reach for a box open it up n inspect it. so by the time i get to the car, i reached in my pocket to call my girlfriend to see if there was anything else she wanted me to get on my way home n i forgot it where i left it! im telling u i ran through that store like i was the NFL Tennessee Titan's running Chris Johnson. i ran like a madman n did stuff i did while i played high school football lol thank god my phone was still in the place i left it. im reinstalling mobile defense right now
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yea Mobile Defense
I think this just shows how easy it is to get into.android.phones. Thank god we have software like whispercore. What do you.guys think?
http://www.whispersys.com/whispercore.html
I don't use a screen lock. It's disabled with Nolock, because it's completely unnecessary.
I'm confused..
The site you linked says nothing at all about breaking pattern locks?
Anyhow to answer your question, I do not lock my phone but if I did it would be with a number or word combo.
nebenezer said:
I'm confused..
The site you linked says nothing at all about breaking pattern locks?
Anyhow to answer your question, I do not lock my phone but if I did it would be with a number or word combo.
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http://www.whispersys.com/screenlock.html
There you go.
Oh my. Someone just needs to wipe their phone off every once in a while. Either that, or wash their hands.
As an alternative, how about actually using the phone once you've turned it on? I mean if you do anything (text, e-mail, browse, launch an app, change screens) your "grease trail" will likely be altered.
I know I should be using one, but I'm just too lazy to deal with it. I know, sad.
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Oh my. Someone just needs to wipe their phone off every once in a while. Either that, or wash their hands.
As an alternative, how about actually using the phone once you've turned it on? I mean if you do anything (text, e-mail, browse, launch an app, change screens) your "grease trail" will likely be altered.
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LoL... agree with you 100% on both points!!!!
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Let's see, spend two months (more or less) writing code that will make it increasingly difficult to unlock your phone, or wipe the phone on your shirt/pants before you put it down.......I'll go with the latter.
Hi guys,
just came back from a trip in Israel. At Tel Aviv airport the guys at security took and hold there my tablet for "security" reasons. When (if) my tablet will return to me, it would be possible to check if they looked and stole my data (emails, navigation history and so on)?
Thank u for your help
I have no idea if you can do that or not... sorry.
But thats messed up! Remind me to never go to Israel...
Not sure there is any way to check if they copied your files or not but if its not too late you can check the battery usage over the time period they had possession of your property to see whether or not they were using your device for any considerable amount of time that would be required to copy a large chunk of data.
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Afraid they stole your kiddie-p...?
Just kidding. There is no way to check it. Did you make a backup?
My guess is that they love your shiny toy so much that its never coming back... hope you have insurance and some sort of proof that they confiscated it. Good luck.
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Good reason to use the screen lock thingy with the passwrod or the multi-movement drag open to unlock thing (system settings)
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Not sure there is any way to check if they copied your files or not but if its not too late you can check the battery usage over the time period they had possession of your property to see whether or not they were using your device for any considerable amount of time that would be required to copy a large chunk of data.
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How can I do it?
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Good reason to use the screen lock thingy with the passwrod or the multi-movement drag open to unlock thing (system settings)
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I use the drag code, but I think it's not too difficult to overcome it
the drag code is difficult to get rid of... since after few try... got a timed lock.
so unless they know your email and password... I don't think they can open it...
But of course we are speaking about guys not really "computer" wise
and... what kind of "sensitive" information you want hide?
it's really weird that they could take the tablet like this... good luck
sanaell said:
the drag code is difficult to get rid of... since after few try... got a timed lock.
so unless they know your email and password... I don't think they can open it...
But of course we are speaking about guys not really "computer" wise
and... what kind of "sensitive" information you want hide?
it's really weird that they could take the tablet like this... good luck
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I've nothing to hide but wathever belongs to me is "sensitive" for me! I think nobody can like that other peoples gain access to own data!!
sanaell said:
the drag code is difficult to get rid of... since after few try... got a timed lock.
so unless they know your email and password... I don't think they can open it...
But of course we are speaking about guys not really "computer" wise
and... what kind of "sensitive" information you want hide?
it's really weird that they could take the tablet like this... good luck
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Bear in mind, all countries have laws that state they can ORDER you to provide the password. Refuse and some (middle east) WILL lock you up.
A lawyer mate of mine says you have the right to be present when they activate, open, or search you equipment. If they refuse, then you also can refuse the password.
Again, that's mainly western countries..
Best way to keep Hebs, Yank jack-booted thugs or anyone else out would be to encrypt the tablet and have a very long non-word password.
we're going offtopic, I only would to know if there was a way to track tablet's use....
That's a first, been many time abroad including Israel and never been told anything about my electronics. And I normally have a few with me. Only once was I told to turn my pocket PC to prove it worked. Best of luck hope you get it back!
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It is turned back. It is now on Milan airport and tomorrow it would be between my hand
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We fired an employee yesterday, and when he returned his phone we discovered that it is pattern-locked. I need to get around the lock to see if he has any important company data stored on his phone...
Is there any way to do this on the Shift?
Factory wipe would get rid of anything on his phone, try sliding the keyboard open to wake the phone, I know sometimes that got around the pattern lock back on my moment, never used the pattern lock on this phone, sorry.
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ovalprocess said:
We fired an employee yesterday, and when he returned his phone we discovered that it is pattern-locked. I need to get around the lock to see if he has any important company data stored on his phone...
Is there any way to do this on the Shift?
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Well first off, any important data would be stored on the SD card.
Doing a factory wipe would wipe what is on the phone, not the SD card. Nothing would really be on the phone though unless you want to dig around in his text messages.
Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
ovalprocess said:
Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
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You might have to contact Sprint for a record of those. I don't know of any way to get around the pattern lock.
If he enabled USB debugging, you will be able to get at a lot of stuff with adb... including the text message database.
ovalprocess said:
We fired an employee yesterday, and when he returned his phone we discovered that it is pattern-locked. I need to get around the lock to see if he has any important company data stored on his phone...
Is there any way to do this on the Shift?
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Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
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Just call the guy you fired and ask him for the password. Sounds to me like the simple and adult solution. Who cares if his feeling are hurt or it will be awkward, its like turning in the office keys when you leave.
+1 Could've been a simple oversight on his part.
ovalprocess said:
Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
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Kind of seems ironic that he can't break the code since he works for an IT firm.
lvpre said:
Kind of seems ironic that he can't break the code since he works for an IT firm.
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Totally ironic. Try ADB?
lvpre said:
Kind of seems ironic that he can't break the code since he works for an IT firm.
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Not really, information technology != software security
That's like saying it's ironic that a mechanical engineer can't make his own electronic circuit board
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Not really, information technology != software security
That's like saying it's ironic that a mechanical engineer can't make his own electronic circuit board
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No, it actually is ironic and also hilarious.
It's more like a mechanic that doesn't know how to rebuild a transmission.
--Sysadmin/IT professional/Tech Support professional of 10+ years.
edit: Then again, it's not a bad question, but you have to admit it's a bit ironic.
riggsandroid said:
Just call the guy you fired and ask him for the password. Sounds to me like the simple and adult solution. Who cares if his feeling are hurt or it will be awkward, its like turning in the office keys when you leave.
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This times a million.
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No, it actually is ironic and also hilarious.
It's more like a mechanic that doesn't know how to rebuild a transmission.
--Sysadmin/IT professional/Tech Support professional of 10+ years.
edit: Then again, it's not a bad question, but you have to admit it's a bit ironic.
This times a million.
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Actually, judging how many combinations you can do with the pattern lock, it would take a quite while to figure out the right combination since there's literally thousands of doable combinations that have to be done manually (afaik) not automated by a script. It isn't ironic at all. Why waste the time? I wouldn't want to bang my head against a wall when the solution is a simple phone call away. And I've been doing IT as long as you have.
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Actually, judging how many combinations you can do with the pattern lock, it would take a quite while to figure out the right combination since there's literally thousands of doable combinations that have to be done manually (afaik) not automated by a script. It isn't ironic at all. Why waste the time? I wouldn't want to bang my head against a wall when the solution is a simple phone call away. And I've been doing IT as long as you have.
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I wasn't talking about the validity of the question at all. It's a great question.. since nobody seems to know the answer I would just suggest taking out the battery and seeing if you can boot into recovery and mounting it via USB if USB debugging is enabled and/or messing with ADB on the phone..
Also, why is this company giving their employees Android phones and not Blackberries? Blackberries can be controlled via BES. Maybe it's just a husband trying to hack his wife's phone?
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I wasn't talking about the validity of the question at all. It's a great question.. since nobody seems to know the answer I would just suggest taking out the battery and seeing if you can boot into recovery and mounting it via USB if USB debugging is enabled and/or messing with ADB on the phone..
Also, why is this company giving their employees Android phones and not Blackberries? Blackberries can be controlled via BES. Maybe it's just a husband trying to hack his wife's phone?
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My last job was using Droid Incredibles. Android phones can be controlled via Exchange ActiveSync security policies. I personally did it at my last job to **** with this guy that was an annoying asshole. Made it so he had to enter his AD password whenever he wanted to unlock his phone and I'd data wipe his phone weekly. He'd ask me about it and I'd tell him it's security policy. I had him convinced that everyone was having the same thing done when they weren't.
Honestly: If I knew the answer I wouldn't tell you. Bypassing someone's security is not the kind of information you should be able to get from XDA.
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Sounds more like a jealous boyfriend wants to look at his girls texts.
You gotta admit, it sounds plausible....
I know how to accomplish this, and it is actually quite simple, but I would never share this with some a***ole employer that wants to spy on their employees.
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I know how to accomplish this, and it is actually quite simple, but I would never share this with some a***ole employer that wants to spy on their employees.
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Then why waste the time to post here and talk **** to some guy who might be actually telling the truth and needs to get work info off that phone?
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e240 said:
Then why waste the time to post here and talk **** to some guy who might be actually telling the truth and needs to get work info off that phone?
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You don't think the whole story is fishy? The way I see it, he has two obvious options:
1. Call the employee. Ask for the pattern.
2. If he refuses, call the cops.
The fact that he is not doing either of these indicates that he does not have a legitimate reason for wanting the info.
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Hello,
I got my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Stolen cant track it as i did not have tracking on it and battery was empty (gps is off)
I am getting tomorrow ne phone (same)
What options are out there.
I often forget phone to desk or to mall or to car etc.
how to prevent that happening again?
I have heard that Samsung Gear watch will vibrate when it will loose connection with my Galaxy Note 3
Can i set it up this way that my watch will also vibrate and make noise (also phone?) when i am too far with my wach from phone.
Can i change the distance?
This prevents me forgetting phone somewhere when i move elsewhere?
I did also find this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpQIhIky9o8
Or is there more options with similar devices?
As this proximo should exist also for android devices and not only for iphone
You could simply learn to be more responsible.
Forgetting your phone is your own fault. You're just going to have to condition yourself to not let the phone out of your hands. Done with it? Put it in your pocket.
Set up a Samsung account, you can use it to track your phone. As for gear options, no idea.
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Android Device Manager can track a phone, lock, and wipe it. It can also ring it if misplaced. It's best not to lose it, of course. You can enable it from Google Settings.
First of all ShadowLea i have not blamed anyone else that my phone got stolen. And phone WAS in my pocket.
If you have no knowledge is there any other similar devise that i mentioned above why to comment?
You think that i don't feel bad already that having my phone stolen and now you come here to point to me with ur finger and ***** that it is my fault?
Thank you for your "friendly" attitude.
If you have no idea is there any similar device then why to comment?
I have no use of this samsung tracking as when phone is stolen they will turn off phone and replace sim card so tracking device is not an option or...?
Question was will the Samsung Gear wach alarm me when i am let say 1 meeter away from phone (alarm on phone via voice and same with wach)I have heard that watch will actually vibrate?
or is there any other device Similar to devices i mentioned above.
Maby some small sticker type alarm so when phone (that has sticker or... attached) and will be too far from me it will raise an alarm.
Bit too harsh dude. He was merely giving you advise.
Cocliosttro said:
Hello,
I got my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Stolen cant track it as i did not have tracking on it and battery was empty (gps is off)
I am getting tomorrow ne phone (same)
What options are out there.
I often forget phone to desk or to mall or to car etc.
how to prevent that happening again?
I have heard that Samsung Gear watch will vibrate when it will loose connection with my Galaxy Note 3
Can i set it up this way that my watch will also vibrate and make noise (also phone?) when i am too far with my wach from phone.
Can i change the distance?
This prevents me forgetting phone somewhere when i move elsewhere?
I did also find this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpQIhIky9o8
Or is there more options with similar devices?
As this proximo should exist also for android devices and not only for iphone
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next time just set up android manager and set up a samsung account and use the device tracking
or if you are rooted you can use cerberus app and put it in the system app with this
the only way to remove the app its by doing a full factory recovery
if they reset the phone the app will still be install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus
So if user puts in his own sim card i will still have full control over that phone?
Usually phones (those new ones) have this factory reset button inside. If they press that one it will not help? As thieve can`t remove that app?
I wanted myself to push that security even further. As idea is same as that kensington has.
So for example i am in a pub. Phone is in my pocket and i am on dance floor or waiting on bar line to buy my drink or i go to toilet and i place phone for second to sink or toilet paper holder i do my things and when i start to move away from the phone or someone is stealing phone while i do not notice (those thieves are skilled and can pump in to you and say oh sorry or what ever and next thing you notice is that phone is gone.) and it will raise an alarm on my phone and on that secondary device (key holder on my pocket etc) and both devises start to make loud noise so i will notice when something like this happens.
I start to leave toilet while phone is still on the sink system will alarm as i am away from phone for example 1 meeter or thive is walking away with my phone and it will raise an alarm.
That was the point.
I have searched for many devices that can actually be useful.
But thank you for your effort to help me.
Cocliosttro said:
So if user puts in his own sim card i will still have full control over that phone?
Usually phones (those new ones) have this factory reset button inside. If they press that one it will not help? As thieve can`t remove that app?
I wanted myself to push that security even further. As idea is same as that kensington has.
So for example i am in a pub. Phone is in my pocket and i am on dance floor or waiting on bar line to buy my drink or i go to toilet and i place phone for second to sink or toilet paper holder i do my things and when i start to move away from the phone or someone is stealing phone while i do not notice (those thieves are skilled and can pump in to you and say oh sorry or what ever and next thing you notice is that phone is gone.) and it will raise an alarm on my phone and on that secondary device (key holder on my pocket etc) and both devises start to make loud noise so i will notice when something like this happens.
I start to leave toilet while phone is still on the sink system will alarm as i am away from phone for example 1 meeter or thive is walking away with my phone and it will raise an alarm.
That was the point.
I have searched for many devices that can actually be useful.
But thank you for your effort to help me.
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A few Smart watches have these features, Galaxy Gear was mentioned earlier, apparently so does the HOT watch.... One of it's features is if you leave your phone behind when it gets a certain distance away(probably 10 meters as it's bluetooth) it will vibrate and let you know about it.
As was also stated google have Android device manager. You can locate, ring or wipe and lock your phone. As long as it can be contacted through mobile internet or wifi this will work... Read how here - http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39...t-android-device-with-android-device-manager/
Avast anti theft has geo-fencing feature and a whole load of other goodies too.
I did find this topic:
http://www.inc.com/john-brandon/5-start-ups-the-samsung-galaxy-gear-might-kill.html
they write there at point 4:
4. StickNFind
This phone finder system is pretty cool. There's a leash mode that sounds an alarm if you leave your stuff behind. The thing is, if the Galaxy Gear is a big seller, there's no reason to use the stickers if your main concern is losing a phone. The Gear watch will alert you when you leave your phone behind. It even locks the screen of your phone when you walk away and unlocks when you appear again. There are a bunch of other companies who make similar finders, including the Tile app. If they're not paying attention to the Gear now, they should.
As i understand i need to get sticker for my wach and it will raise an alarm when i am too far from my phone.
ShadowLea said:
You could simply learn to be more responsible.
Forgetting your phone is your own fault. You're just going to have to condition yourself to not let the phone out of your hands. Done with it? Put it in your pocket.
Set up a Samsung account, you can use it to track your phone. As for gear options, no idea.
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illusion786 said:
Bit too harsh dude. He was merely giving you advise.
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Let's be fair, the RESPONSE was Harsh, patronizing and judgmental.
Of course it's partly fault of the user. But when someone feels the needs to state the obvious, it's usually not to be informative, but rather to glout.
The BOLDED quote is not advice, but judgmental opinion at best, and a emotional jab at worse. Now granted, while certain things deserve judgment, call it what is is, instead of cowering away and calling it "advice".
At least, hopefully, you (OP) turned on Reactivation Lock, so they can't bypass your screen lock (surely you had one) by flashing your ROM.
Don't forget to call the service provider to blacklist the IMEI so it can't be sold on the black market. This will prevent future thefts.
Yes, StickNGo is a good alternative. But it doesn't look like they have a use case required for your reversed direction location. Worth noting is that Android 4.3's Bluetooth LE stack is still buggy enough to cause usability issues and also if you notice StickNGo's indiegogo, lots of people are getting replacement tags due to some problems.
The other recommendations here are great so far. :good:
Check out cerbus. It's cheap and nice
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Let's be fair, the RESPONSE was Harsh, patronizing and judgmental.
Of course it's partly fault of the user. But when someone feels the needs to state the obvious, it's usually not to be informative, but rather to glout.
The BOLDED quote is not advice, but judgmental opinion at best, and a emotional jab at worse. Now granted, while certain things deserve judgment, call it what is is, instead of cowering away and calling it "advice".
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I'm a sociopath, I don't do 'emotional'.
Yes, it was harsh. Yes, it was patronizing. Yes, it was judgemental. It was meant to be exactly that. The only way to get the point across to these kinds of people is to stop. being. polite.
You teach children at age 4 to be mindful of their possessions and to not loose their valuables. If you still don't know how to do it when you're over 12, you deserve every bit of judgement.
This is a 1000 dollar phone, not a 5 cent pen.
Start treating it for the value it has, as opposed to a cheap bit of plastic.
Cocliosttro said:
Hello,
I got my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Stolen cant track it as i did not have tracking on it and battery was empty (gps is off)
I am getting tomorrow ne phone (same)
What options are out there.
I often forget phone to desk or to mall or to car etc.
how to prevent that happening again?
I have heard that Samsung Gear watch will vibrate when it will loose connection with my Galaxy Note 3
Can i set it up this way that my watch will also vibrate and make noise (also phone?) when i am too far with my wach from phone.
Can i change the distance?
This prevents me forgetting phone somewhere when i move elsewhere?
I did also find this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpQIhIky9o8
Or is there more options with similar devices?
As this proximo should exist also for android devices and not only for iphone
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Future proof yourself. But there's a nice niche you can do to the old stolen phone... the imei on the phone... can be blacklisted... the serial on it... can be blacklisted... bam... whomever uses it is stuck with a tablet, nothing more.
Had a friend buy what was thought to be a good phone, seemed to have been blacklisted in another province in canada, and well he was sol. He blacklisted his proof of purchase s4 he traded for the other phone, but both him/them have equally good tablets now...
Blacklist it via your cell provider. See what they can do, as they still have the old information for your account.
- rmleloup
Good, I have little problem with people who have the decency of calling something what it is, instead of wasting time being disingenuous.
Here's the thing, few lessons are as memorable as those resulting from experience. If your goal was for him to learn his lesson, then I think our OP will have no problem remembering after paying $$$ for this lesson, even without the extraneous comments.
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rmleloup said:
Future proof yourself. But there's a nice niche you can do to the old stolen phone... the imei on the phone... can be blacklisted... the serial on it... can be blacklisted... bam... whomever uses it is stuck with a tablet, nothing more.
Had a friend buy what was thought to be a good phone, seemed to have been blacklisted in another province in canada, and well he was sol. He blacklisted his proof of purchase s4 he traded for the other phone, but both him/them have equally good tablets now...
Blacklist it via your cell provider. See what they can do, as they still have the old information for your account.
- rmleloup
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This is news to me, but it looks like you're right about the existence of a national blacklist. Until now, my understanding was that the Europian Union, was the only place with a national/international blacklist.
When did your "friend" lose his/her phone? Because it looks like the national blacklist was only VERY Recently implemented
READ: http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/30/cwta-and-its-partners-launch-gsm-blacklist-for-stolen-cellphones/
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Looks like Bluetooth LE is just not properly implemented in Android. Bluetooth LE reliant products across the board are either having serious technical issues with Android based systems or have out right declined to support the operating system.
Found at Tilesapp FAQ:
No Android support?
At this time Android does not support Bluetooth 4.0. A few Android phone manufacturers have released BLE SDKs, however they are lacking in quality and stability. At Tile, the quality of our products is of utmost importance, and until there exists an Android platform that meets our quality standards, we will not be releasing a Tile app for Android.
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ShadowLea said:
I'm a sociopath, I don't do 'emotional'.
Yes, it was harsh. Yes, it was patronizing. Yes, it was judgemental. It was meant to be exactly that. The only way to get the point across to these kinds of people is to stop. being. polite.
You teach children at age 4 to be mindful of their possessions and to not loose their valuables. If you still don't know how to do it when you're over 12, you deserve every bit of judgement.
This is a 1000 dollar phone, not a 5 cent pen.
Start treating it for the value it has, as opposed to a cheap bit of plastic.
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I have hoby named bodybuilding.
When i go to competition i have to lower my body carbon hydrate level to 6% less that level is MORE you will forget.
As it is food to brain.
I wont quit my hoby because i may loose my phone.
I will try to find solution and your comment did not help.
if somone is unfriendly to me i will reply same. How i will act will be reflected as how did you act.
With me it was always like this and it will be like this.
Other people who did comment here Thank you.
I will deffenetly look in to this Cerberus app.
I wonder will factory reset remove that.
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Let's be fair, the RESPONSE was Harsh, patronizing and judgmental.
Of course it's partly fault of the user. But when someone feels the needs to state the obvious, it's usually not to be informative, but rather to glout.
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The other recommendations here are great so far. :good:
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To be fair you have to admit it's entirely the fault of the user. Neither the phone nor the sink did anything wrong and I'm pretty sure the pocket didn't play a part in it either.
I agree with Lea that he needs to condition himself NOT TO FORGET THINGS. I he forgot the $1000 phone he can just as easily forget his wallet or his keys, and they can't be traced or wiped.
And dude the hobby thing plays little part in it. I'm on a 1.500 cal lc paleo diet and never forget anything. As you taught your body to burn fat and gain muscle, teach your brain to remember the important things.
Buy Cerberus app from play store. It's probably the best in the category. Factory reset and changing sim cards won't remove it if you implant it as a system app. Tracking works from a PC or via sms. It has a lot of features like sounding alarm, taking picture, locking phone, wiping phone, tracking, recording sound, recording video etc. ..
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