Do you guys like pattern.locks? - EVO 4G General

I think this just shows how easy it is to get into.android.phones. Thank god we have software like whispercore. What do you.guys think?
http://www.whispersys.com/whispercore.html

I don't use a screen lock. It's disabled with Nolock, because it's completely unnecessary.

I'm confused..
The site you linked says nothing at all about breaking pattern locks?
Anyhow to answer your question, I do not lock my phone but if I did it would be with a number or word combo.

nebenezer said:
I'm confused..
The site you linked says nothing at all about breaking pattern locks?
Anyhow to answer your question, I do not lock my phone but if I did it would be with a number or word combo.
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http://www.whispersys.com/screenlock.html
There you go.

Oh my. Someone just needs to wipe their phone off every once in a while. Either that, or wash their hands.
As an alternative, how about actually using the phone once you've turned it on? I mean if you do anything (text, e-mail, browse, launch an app, change screens) your "grease trail" will likely be altered.

I know I should be using one, but I'm just too lazy to deal with it. I know, sad.
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mevensen said:
Oh my. Someone just needs to wipe their phone off every once in a while. Either that, or wash their hands.
As an alternative, how about actually using the phone once you've turned it on? I mean if you do anything (text, e-mail, browse, launch an app, change screens) your "grease trail" will likely be altered.
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LoL... agree with you 100% on both points!!!!
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Let's see, spend two months (more or less) writing code that will make it increasingly difficult to unlock your phone, or wipe the phone on your shirt/pants before you put it down.......I'll go with the latter.

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50 dollars to the person who can make this

I'm sick of these snooping women coming up with excuses to need to make a call or use my phone for the web... and then I flat out catch them snooping through my stuff like face book, sms, phone call history, browser history...
I want a lock screen that has 2 icons present... one to allow someone to simply make a call without access to any other features or history, and one to generally use the internet, without access to any other features or history.
I guess even allow them to start a seperate SMS app so that they can have zero excuse for needing full features.
I feel like coming up with an excuse to need a bag and then wandering off with their purses and snooping through that.
Evil women.
i'd chip in some too. but expand the feature so you can lock down individual applications. e.g. would be nice to lock down (personal) texts and email if lending to someone to make calls or surf the net.
spiffyjiff said:
i'd chip in some too. but expand the feature so you can lock down individual applications. e.g. would be nice to lock down (personal) texts and email if lending to someone to make calls or surf the net.
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I'm all for that too... with a lock screen and only the basic features provided from there, everything would be locked down.
The emergency dialer modified to be able to make any calls would be nice... although I swear that when I did call 911 from it earlier this week, that afterwords my phone was unlocked.
Guest Dialer, Guest Browser, Guest Text would be GLORIOUS !!
Do you really hand your phone to that many women who look through your phone?
I suspect there's only one woman and you're trying to hide things from her
jonnythan said:
Do you really hand your phone to that many women who look through your phone?
I suspect there's only one woman and you're trying to hide things from her
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50 dollars to the person who can make this
jonnythan said:
Do you really hand your phone to that many women who look through your phone?
I suspect there's only one woman and you're trying to hide things from her
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Haha, my thoughts exactly.
Does it really matter WHY he's doing it? The man is offering 50 bucks. I say, put up or shut up. Lol.
Personally, I don't need it, but it'd be cool if someone could actually do it. And hell, for 50 bones, if I knew Java, I'd go for broke on this. Rofl.
kbizzle said:
Haha, my thoughts exactly.
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People only know their own lives, anyone else want to chime in with some self expressions?
Cloned2 said:
I'm sick of these snooping women coming up with excuses to need to make a call or use my phone for the web... and then I flat out catch them snooping through my stuff like face book, sms, phone call history, browser history...
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I swear to god I'd punch a chic in the face if they ever tried saying "who's this" after snooping in my phone... especially after asking to borrow my stuff... It doesn't matter if I was innocent or not.
I don't know who you've been hanging out with, but in what twisted world do people feel as if they can just go though your stuff like that? Man that would piss me off so bad... right in the f'ing mouth, I tell ya...
johnsongrantr said:
I swear to god I'd punch a chic in the face if they ever tried saying "who's this" after snooping in my phone... especially after asking to borrow my stuff... It doesn't matter if I was innocent or not.
I don't know who you've been hanging out with, but in what twisted world do people feel as if they can just go though your stuff like that? Man that would piss me off so bad... right in the f'ing mouth, I tell ya...
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HAHA!
"roll with the punches" - when things dont go your way and you adapt to the changes and keep moving ahead instead of flipin out
I put it like this. If you wanna go through my ****, go ahead. But don't get mad if you find something you don't like. If you go looking for trouble, you find it. Now, if you ask me and I say yes, well, that's on me then. But if you're straight snoopin', **** it. You're ****ing SNOOPING! You can't get mad at me when you find what you're looking for.
Cloned2 said:
I'm sick of these snooping women coming up with excuses to need to make a call or use my phone for the web... and then I flat out catch them snooping through my stuff like face book, sms, phone call history, browser history...
I want a lock screen that has 2 icons present... one to allow someone to simply make a call without access to any other features or history, and one to generally use the internet, without access to any other features or history.
I guess even allow them to start a seperate SMS app so that they can have zero excuse for needing full features.
I feel like coming up with an excuse to need a bag and then wandering off with their purses and snooping through that.
Evil women.
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Would this be an app that YOU would start and then hand your phone to her, or would it be a home replacement or separate ROM? Would you want the ability to use some sort of password to exit, or what more do you envision?
I can look into making this for you possibly...
Cloned2 said:
HAHA!
"roll with the punches" - when things dont go your way and you adapt to the changes and keep moving ahead instead of flipin out
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I do nothing to deserve to be snooped apon... and if I was, nothing would be found... because I'm honest
things don't go my way? adapt to the changes? what are you talking about?
invasion of privacy, then questioned about it...I would ignore the question about "who is this" I'd say "chose your answer carefully, why were you snooping in my phone"
if no good answer was given... you bet your ass I'd knock them the f**k out
Tiger, when did you get out of sex rehab?
I've got an app for that. It's called "Tell her to get her own phone!" and it's not in the market.
Seriously, my wife has her own phone and we stay out of each other's bidniss.
I can relate though because I used to have a girlfriend that liked to go through my wallet while I was in the shower. We no longer speak to each other.
kmartburrito said:
Would this be an app that YOU would start and then hand your phone to her, or would it be a home replacement or separate ROM? Would you want the ability to use some sort of password to exit, or what more do you envision?
I can look into making this for you possibly...
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I could easily be off on this.. but I believe he is looking for strictly a lock screen replacement. It would be passive, in that there is no action required to run it, only when waking the phone up the options he requested would be present.
kmartburrito said:
Would this be an app that YOU would start and then hand your phone to her, or would it be a home replacement or separate ROM? Would you want the ability to use some sort of password to exit, or what more do you envision?
I can look into making this for you possibly...
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i bet he's looking for an app like the one relases in the ADC2 that replaced the lockscreen...
I think the best way is to buy another phone. Just hand her the phone which you don't use.
jonnythan said:
Do you really hand your phone to that many women who look through your phone?
I suspect there's only one woman and you're trying to hide things from her
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Yup +1
I like the idea cause this could apply to more than just some chick looking through your phone. Maybe I want my child to be able to use my phone without going through and accidentally deleting or screwing up settings. Or maybe I have explicit pics from my GF that I dont want my buddy seeing if he is screwing with my phone. I know that there are ways of hiding pics but I tried the .nomedia thing once and it deleted my pics somehow.

Spoofed phone, and replies...

Been using Google voice (not religiously due to family not the most tech savvy). This morning, I wake up, and I find a total of 8 messages from starting from 10:30 at night, to 07:59 this AM. There are a total of 3 reply backs, all having personal information attached to them).
Researching the number back shows an area code of 734 (Ann Arbor), which is ironically the prefix I chose since I previously worked there at U of M.
The really interesting part is that I have a bit of a "stalker" at work, whose number I've blacklisted courtesy of Verizon wireless, and have not had any issues in say 1.5 months. 2 nights ago while at work she asked about setting up a google voice account after just purchasing a Samsung S, stating "I don't have any clue how to set this up". Was a bit busy at the time (patient going bad, honestly didn't really care", and opened up the app and told her to browse through it to get an idea.
How can I track this number (really think it's her) and verify it. I have a harassment case pending in HR regarding her, and would like to have it as material to provide it it really is her. Second, how the hell can my phone respond back? I have "Unknown sources" checked as I use Ti backup.
Any help more than appreciated. Thanks in advance!
LOL Holy christ no. One of the "you can take the girl from the trailer...." She's done this before to others at work, with the last moving to Canada (I **** you not) with his wife and 2 daughters. Been getting worse, hence my interaction with my manager and HR.
google voice also can use your email to reply back to texts..is your email compromised? Change your passwords..and do a hard reset..if you are using TI..just wipe and reinstall ROM...
It's hard to say what/if she did something...but yeah, thats weird.
edit: I live in Ann Arbor, but I wasn't the one...haha.
pretend how u have this treasure in nigeria, and ask her to "help" you bring it here.
Christ, I never thought of that, and I do have that option checked.
Sigh... I just did a complete backup 8 days ago, only difference is 2 games, and I can re-download those.
Google voice already uninstalled. After that I'm going to get number changed, and see if I can get it "unlisted" by Verizon.
What else, any other suggestions are more than welcome and appreciated!
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k.electron said:
pretend how u have this treasure in nigeria, and ask her to "help" you bring it here.
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Somali pirates would probably ship her back, and the waters over there are dirty enough. No need to have Green Peace involved.... or maybe so... thoughts to ponder
Any way I can trace that number back to her original phone number?
HyperTension said:
Somali pirates would probably ship her back, and the waters over there are dirty enough. No need to have Green Peace involved.... or maybe so... thoughts to ponder
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actually what i was getting at was scamming her so that she would get the message.
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Any way I can trace that number back to her original phone number?
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do a reverse number lookup and google voice numbers are listed as grandcentral in their service provider. that will tell u at the very least that its a GV number.
Well, after logging into Google voice, somehow her number (which is and has been blocked by Verizon) is listed as a secondary phone, receive text messages on this phone has been checked, PIN not required checked, and never ring. Multiple sign-in is enabled as well.
Just outstanding. Changed email to some bs address. Will verify and forget, as has password to something ridiculous. Any other suggestions?
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Any other suggestions?
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Document everything that has happened, as thoroughly as possible. Get whatever confirmation you can from Google that shows that your account was somehow compromised.
This chica sounds like she is serious business and doesn't mind playing these games long term. If she compromised your communications you can be sure that it was not just some isolated fun. She most likely mined your account for whatever info she could, and it's possible that she sent things 'on your behalf' that she can later use to accuse you of something.
Change all of your passwords immediately: banking, paypal, email, etc. If she was able to compromise one, it's likely she got into another.
It sounds like worrying about Google Voice or your phone is the least of your concerns: the symptom rather than the disease.
Seriously consider retaining a lawyer for whatever may come of all this insanity.
Maybe it sounds like I'm overreacting but I've seen the havoc that can come from such a situation and from your description, this sounds like it could go all sorts of awful ways.
I dunno... I think you like her.
i think you should talk to the police about this... not XDA... or maybe springer... he always gets the truth out
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...and opened up the app and told her to browse through it to get an idea.
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Is it possible she changed your google voice setup when you handed her your phone?
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If she's that much of a nut case, why did you give her your phone? It doesn't sound like she's dumb at all, if she mined your phone that quick.
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Who gives their phone to a known stalker nutcase?
I suspect there is more to this story.
Was she any good?
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OK wait one second here... a woman is "stalking" you and you are having issues with this?? Are you another woman? You can't be a guy because it is impossible to 1. rape a guy and 2. stalk a guy.
This is so much BS. if you were really bothered by this person why do you talk to her? why do you bother with her? I think you are her stalker, thats more believable.
I have been stalked by a chick. Its creepy. You get stalked when they're fat and scary looking. So it is possible.
Didn't know that they controlled how fast you post on here if your a new user. That is insane. But understandable.
fader01 said:
OK wait one second here... a woman is "stalking" you and you are having issues with this?? Are you another woman? You can't be a guy because it is impossible to 1. rape a guy and 2. stalk a guy.
This is so much BS. if you were really bothered by this person why do you talk to her? why do you bother with her? I think you are her stalker, thats more believable.
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Aside from just simply changing your passwords, change your security questions to the accounts as well.
Document everything and hand it over to HR
There's also an option to change your google voice number, if you dont mind choosing a new one.
Somewhere in the settings on the desktop site.

[Q] Checking for intrusion

Hi guys,
just came back from a trip in Israel. At Tel Aviv airport the guys at security took and hold there my tablet for "security" reasons. When (if) my tablet will return to me, it would be possible to check if they looked and stole my data (emails, navigation history and so on)?
Thank u for your help
I have no idea if you can do that or not... sorry.
But thats messed up! Remind me to never go to Israel...
Not sure there is any way to check if they copied your files or not but if its not too late you can check the battery usage over the time period they had possession of your property to see whether or not they were using your device for any considerable amount of time that would be required to copy a large chunk of data.
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Afraid they stole your kiddie-p...?
Just kidding. There is no way to check it. Did you make a backup?
My guess is that they love your shiny toy so much that its never coming back... hope you have insurance and some sort of proof that they confiscated it. Good luck.
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Good reason to use the screen lock thingy with the passwrod or the multi-movement drag open to unlock thing (system settings)
panda.bear said:
Not sure there is any way to check if they copied your files or not but if its not too late you can check the battery usage over the time period they had possession of your property to see whether or not they were using your device for any considerable amount of time that would be required to copy a large chunk of data.
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How can I do it?
Fluffbutt said:
Good reason to use the screen lock thingy with the passwrod or the multi-movement drag open to unlock thing (system settings)
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I use the drag code, but I think it's not too difficult to overcome it
the drag code is difficult to get rid of... since after few try... got a timed lock.
so unless they know your email and password... I don't think they can open it...
But of course we are speaking about guys not really "computer" wise
and... what kind of "sensitive" information you want hide?
it's really weird that they could take the tablet like this... good luck
sanaell said:
the drag code is difficult to get rid of... since after few try... got a timed lock.
so unless they know your email and password... I don't think they can open it...
But of course we are speaking about guys not really "computer" wise
and... what kind of "sensitive" information you want hide?
it's really weird that they could take the tablet like this... good luck
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I've nothing to hide but wathever belongs to me is "sensitive" for me! I think nobody can like that other peoples gain access to own data!!
sanaell said:
the drag code is difficult to get rid of... since after few try... got a timed lock.
so unless they know your email and password... I don't think they can open it...
But of course we are speaking about guys not really "computer" wise
and... what kind of "sensitive" information you want hide?
it's really weird that they could take the tablet like this... good luck
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Bear in mind, all countries have laws that state they can ORDER you to provide the password. Refuse and some (middle east) WILL lock you up.
A lawyer mate of mine says you have the right to be present when they activate, open, or search you equipment. If they refuse, then you also can refuse the password.
Again, that's mainly western countries..
Best way to keep Hebs, Yank jack-booted thugs or anyone else out would be to encrypt the tablet and have a very long non-word password.
we're going offtopic, I only would to know if there was a way to track tablet's use....
That's a first, been many time abroad including Israel and never been told anything about my electronics. And I normally have a few with me. Only once was I told to turn my pocket PC to prove it worked. Best of luck hope you get it back!
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It is turned back. It is now on Milan airport and tomorrow it would be between my hand
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[Q] Fired employee pattern locked his phone, need the data

We fired an employee yesterday, and when he returned his phone we discovered that it is pattern-locked. I need to get around the lock to see if he has any important company data stored on his phone...
Is there any way to do this on the Shift?
Factory wipe would get rid of anything on his phone, try sliding the keyboard open to wake the phone, I know sometimes that got around the pattern lock back on my moment, never used the pattern lock on this phone, sorry.
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ovalprocess said:
We fired an employee yesterday, and when he returned his phone we discovered that it is pattern-locked. I need to get around the lock to see if he has any important company data stored on his phone...
Is there any way to do this on the Shift?
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Well first off, any important data would be stored on the SD card.
Doing a factory wipe would wipe what is on the phone, not the SD card. Nothing would really be on the phone though unless you want to dig around in his text messages.
Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
ovalprocess said:
Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
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You might have to contact Sprint for a record of those. I don't know of any way to get around the pattern lock.
If he enabled USB debugging, you will be able to get at a lot of stuff with adb... including the text message database.
ovalprocess said:
We fired an employee yesterday, and when he returned his phone we discovered that it is pattern-locked. I need to get around the lock to see if he has any important company data stored on his phone...
Is there any way to do this on the Shift?
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Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
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Just call the guy you fired and ask him for the password. Sounds to me like the simple and adult solution. Who cares if his feeling are hurt or it will be awkward, its like turning in the office keys when you leave.
+1 Could've been a simple oversight on his part.
ovalprocess said:
Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
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Kind of seems ironic that he can't break the code since he works for an IT firm.
lvpre said:
Kind of seems ironic that he can't break the code since he works for an IT firm.
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Totally ironic. Try ADB?
lvpre said:
Kind of seems ironic that he can't break the code since he works for an IT firm.
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Not really, information technology != software security
That's like saying it's ironic that a mechanical engineer can't make his own electronic circuit board
c00ller said:
Not really, information technology != software security
That's like saying it's ironic that a mechanical engineer can't make his own electronic circuit board
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No, it actually is ironic and also hilarious.
It's more like a mechanic that doesn't know how to rebuild a transmission.
--Sysadmin/IT professional/Tech Support professional of 10+ years.
edit: Then again, it's not a bad question, but you have to admit it's a bit ironic.
riggsandroid said:
Just call the guy you fired and ask him for the password. Sounds to me like the simple and adult solution. Who cares if his feeling are hurt or it will be awkward, its like turning in the office keys when you leave.
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This times a million.
VICODAN said:
No, it actually is ironic and also hilarious.
It's more like a mechanic that doesn't know how to rebuild a transmission.
--Sysadmin/IT professional/Tech Support professional of 10+ years.
edit: Then again, it's not a bad question, but you have to admit it's a bit ironic.
This times a million.
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Actually, judging how many combinations you can do with the pattern lock, it would take a quite while to figure out the right combination since there's literally thousands of doable combinations that have to be done manually (afaik) not automated by a script. It isn't ironic at all. Why waste the time? I wouldn't want to bang my head against a wall when the solution is a simple phone call away. And I've been doing IT as long as you have.
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Actually, judging how many combinations you can do with the pattern lock, it would take a quite while to figure out the right combination since there's literally thousands of doable combinations that have to be done manually (afaik) not automated by a script. It isn't ironic at all. Why waste the time? I wouldn't want to bang my head against a wall when the solution is a simple phone call away. And I've been doing IT as long as you have.
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I wasn't talking about the validity of the question at all. It's a great question.. since nobody seems to know the answer I would just suggest taking out the battery and seeing if you can boot into recovery and mounting it via USB if USB debugging is enabled and/or messing with ADB on the phone..
Also, why is this company giving their employees Android phones and not Blackberries? Blackberries can be controlled via BES. Maybe it's just a husband trying to hack his wife's phone?
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I wasn't talking about the validity of the question at all. It's a great question.. since nobody seems to know the answer I would just suggest taking out the battery and seeing if you can boot into recovery and mounting it via USB if USB debugging is enabled and/or messing with ADB on the phone..
Also, why is this company giving their employees Android phones and not Blackberries? Blackberries can be controlled via BES. Maybe it's just a husband trying to hack his wife's phone?
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My last job was using Droid Incredibles. Android phones can be controlled via Exchange ActiveSync security policies. I personally did it at my last job to **** with this guy that was an annoying asshole. Made it so he had to enter his AD password whenever he wanted to unlock his phone and I'd data wipe his phone weekly. He'd ask me about it and I'd tell him it's security policy. I had him convinced that everyone was having the same thing done when they weren't.
Honestly: If I knew the answer I wouldn't tell you. Bypassing someone's security is not the kind of information you should be able to get from XDA.
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Sounds more like a jealous boyfriend wants to look at his girls texts.
You gotta admit, it sounds plausible....
I know how to accomplish this, and it is actually quite simple, but I would never share this with some a***ole employer that wants to spy on their employees.
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I know how to accomplish this, and it is actually quite simple, but I would never share this with some a***ole employer that wants to spy on their employees.
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Then why waste the time to post here and talk **** to some guy who might be actually telling the truth and needs to get work info off that phone?
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e240 said:
Then why waste the time to post here and talk **** to some guy who might be actually telling the truth and needs to get work info off that phone?
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You don't think the whole story is fishy? The way I see it, he has two obvious options:
1. Call the employee. Ask for the pattern.
2. If he refuses, call the cops.
The fact that he is not doing either of these indicates that he does not have a legitimate reason for wanting the info.
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Require Password to Shut Off Nexus 4....

It their anyway to force the phone to require a password in order to shut down the phone? This is a HUGE flaw that nobody seems to be focusing on. What's the point of having a security app on your smartphone if they can just shut it off and your done? Anybody feel the same way? It's like having a security system in your house and allowing anybody to simply shut it off without breaking a sweat. Are you okay with that? I messaged Lookout Mobile Security and Sent a Request which you can do so here once signing in https://www.lookout.com/help. Just click on Send a Request. Hopefully they can implement this vital feature in their security app. If theirs any smart people out their who can make this feature on their own I applaud you. Your phone will let you know where its at even if its off using Lookout online, but without out the phone screaming (a feature within Lookout that makes your phone emit a really loud sound) it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack. Click on the link and let them know you want this feature. It just makes security apps on ANY phone totally useless without this feature.
What is a thief going to do with a phone they can never turn on? Sure you can't use the security features with it off but they have to turn it back on eventually.
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What kind of logic is that? You swear a person will wait years for the thieve to turn it back on? REALLY?
joshnichols189 said:
What is a thief going to do with a phone they can never turn on? Sure you can't use the security features with it off but they have to turn it back on eventually.
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What kind of logic is that? You swear somebody will wait for years for the thieve to turn their phone back on? Really?
its written in its hardware to shutdown after holding the power button for 10 seconds, you protect your information with encryption, locks so the thief won't bother, that's all, not much you can do once they install clockworkmod, no offense
if the mobile provider does block the imei, you can just use it in another country.
google needs a database to centralize all licensed androids/imei with gmail account to lock it of its stolen or un-authorized and report it.
Well it could be used for other purposes too.
For me for instance. I drove home yesterday from work while suddenly I felt a small vibration from my pocket. Looked and it was from the phone turning off... I must have sat wrong. I'd love a "lock" to not have this happen again.
HOWEVER... there are apps known for freezing your screen (i.e. TouchControl atm).
If you get a freeze you're .... ****ed! so not sure if I'd like that, but it would be a nice feature if you feel safe that you won't get freezes.
Password to turn off phone? It's useless lol.
Take out battery?
ADB reboot?
Anyways, no matter what they're gonna have to turn the phone back on. If not, why would they steal the phone?
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What kind of logic is that? You swear a person will wait years for the thieve to turn it back on? REALLY?
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I understand your issue but all you have to do to turn a phone off is long press power for around 10 seconds and it automatically shuts down. By that logic removable batteries and SD cards are incredibly dangerous as well. If a thief gets your phone and knows what they're doing, there's not much you can do to get your phone back. The reason most people have passwords on their phones is really just to stop friends messing around with things, since it's fairly unlikely someone will steal your phone if you look after it properly.
Nigeldg said:
I understand your issue but all you have to do to turn a phone off is long press power for around 10 seconds and it automatically shuts down. By that logic removable batteries and SD cards are incredibly dangerous as well. If a thief gets your phone and knows what they're doing, there's not much you can do to get your phone back. The reason most people have passwords on their phones is really just to stop friends messing around with things, since it's fairly unlikely someone will steal your phone if you look after it properly.
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Most thieves DON"T know how to do this. Either way this shouldn't stop the feature from being their. Just because somebody can means we shouldn't?
lol this is comical.
The only thing they would have to do is let the phone die within a day by the battery running out. Then they could charge it with the phone off, and proceed to thievery as normal.
If they were to implement this, I can just see the 1st thread after this 'feature' is enabled
"Help! My Phone froze and now I need an RMA"
ingenious247 said:
lol this is comical.
The only thing they would have to do is let the phone die within a day by the battery running out. Then they could charge it with the phone off, and proceed to thievery as normal.
If they were to implement this, I can just see the 1st thread after this 'feature' is enabled
"Help! My Phone froze and now I need an RMA"
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A day is more than enough to find your phone when stolen if it hasn't been "TURNED OFF" manually.
I'll tell you what's comical, the responses I hear lol
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Really? lol I could put it in a shoebox in my closet. Good luck getting a GPS read on it, and even if you did it's only accurate to 30 meters and I live in apt. complex.
So there goes that theory
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Really? lol I could put it in a shoebox in my closet. Good luck getting a GPS read on it, and even if you did it's only accurate to 30 meters and I live in apt. complex.
So there goes that theory
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What kind of shoe box we talking about? Most thieves aren't smart enough to know these things. The first thing they will do after taking it is turning it off. If it requires a password how will that be possible? I know this solution will not end world hunger or war, but what it will do is provide a bigger window in finding your phone and that's all we need. Is time not relevant to you?
#1 I treat my phone like my wallet (since it is w/ Google Wallet) which means I don't pull it out and set it on a table at a restaurant/bar, I don't hand it to people I don't know who say "hey bro can I use your phone real quick", I don't set it down at a party/friends house/anywhere. It's always in my pocket. You'd have to beat me down to get it, so slim chance of that (good luck..)
#2 Everything I do is password protected (i.e. lockscreen, Google Wallet, Play Store purchases) and I can disable Wallet remotely and change my PW to my Google account remotely.. all my pics/music are in the cloud so there's nothing to lose/steal from my phone
#3 *IF* someone was lucky enough to get their hands on my phone somehow, the last thing I would worry about is if they were able to flash/reset it quickly because chances are the amount of time you're talking about would be ~6-8 hours at best on average unless you were at 100% charge when they stole it
#4 It would cause more problems than it would solve as phones tend to freeze here and there, I guarantee *YOU* would be the only one suffering any consequence of the implementation not some theoretical thief.
123456789fg said:
It their anyway to force the phone to require a password in order to shut down the phone? This is a HUGE flaw that nobody seems to be focusing on. What's the point of having a security app on your smartphone if they can just shut it off and your done? Anybody feel the same way? It's like having a security system in your house and allowing anybody to simply shut it off without breaking a sweat. Are you okay with that? I messaged Lookout Mobile Security and Sent a Request which you can do so here once signing in https://www.lookout.com/help. Just click on Send a Request. Hopefully they can implement this vital feature in their security app. If theirs any smart people out their who can make this feature on their own I applaud you. Your phone will let you know where its at even if its off using Lookout online, but without out the phone screaming (a feature within Lookout that makes your phone emit a really loud sound) it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack. Click on the link and let them know you want this feature. It just makes security apps on ANY phone totally useless without this feature.
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Great username, explains a lot.
123456789fg said:
What kind of shoe box we talking about? Most thieves aren't smart enough to know these things. The first thing they will do after taking it is turning it off. If it requires a password how will that be possible? I know this solution will not end world hunger or war, but what it will do is provide a bigger window in finding your phone and that's all we need. Is time not relevant to you?
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I live in an apartment, good luck getting info on which unit I'm living in.
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exb0 said:
I live in an apartment, good luck getting info on which unit I'm living in.
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I think I'll just repost this again once the smart people come back from spring break. Addios.
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I think I'll just repost this again once the smart people come back from spring break. Addios.
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good luck :3
exb0 said:
good luck :3
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Don't need it.
123456789fg said:
A day is more than enough to find your phone when stolen if it hasn't been "TURNED OFF" manually.
I'll tell you what's comical, the responses I hear lol
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How dumb are you? If the phone dies there is no finding it. You don't have to turn it off manually for it to die.
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I think I'll just repost this again once the smart people come back from spring break. Addios.
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Again, are you thirteen? Spring break was last month.
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Don't need it.
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You really do need a lot of luck at this rate.
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