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Watch your phones ladies and gentlemen...
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27s said:
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Watch your phones ladies and gentlemen...
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=xprnw.20100503.PH97384&show_article=1
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Thats a great idea.......I use spy programs on my kids computer to monitor what he doea and where he goes. Found him visiting soft core porn sites....He hasn't done that since.....

hahaha man thats insane
but could be useful

27s said:
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I have mixed views on this, on one hand as a parent I think this is a great tool to keep kids from preditors because as these phones get more and more fetures they become more and more like computers, there is software form comps that do this so it only makes sense that it would come to the smart phone world.
on the other hand I think that as a parent you need to raise your children correctly to avoid needing this and as an employer if I cant trust my employees then why are they working for me? so I do see the need but it is still kinda sad that it is needed.

Yeah, I see the use, but I still think that is it a breach of privacy. My parents never used blocking software on the PC, or looked over my shoulder. Sure, I saw some things on the internet that I prolly should not have, but I am no worse for the wear. I guess parents have the right to do it, but I think for business it is kinda sketch..but you work for them. Then again, Calls and e-mails, sure, but pictures and the like I think is to invasive.

chfields said:
Thats a great idea.......I use spy programs on my kids computer to monitor what he doea and where he goes. Found him visiting soft core porn sites....He hasn't done that since.....
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At least you know he's straight if the other demographic isn't what you wanted.

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This is awesome.
My kid is so screwed, haha. (seriously, I don't care if he looks at porn. I just want to know he's not dead.)
EDIT: Whoah.... $100/year? Forget that. MobileDefense is free and good enough.

If I did have a kid. I think this is takin it just a little bit to far.
Its the kids life, not his and the parents. GPS tracker, fine. Your entire life tracker, not fine.
Why not just go all the way and get a live satellite feed on your kid while your at it. He will grow up with no experience in Anything. While all of his friends with have 100x more common sense and understanding of thing because they discovered things for themselves.
I would say there is a limit to parenting, you have to let the kid figure things out on his own, do things wrong on his own. Sucks if you cant put them in the right direction.

wonbattlelost said:
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i can understand when their younger. maybe even until their 15 (15year olds...GOD!)
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But think about it this way... with an app like this, you could have them start walking to school and running errands when they're like 4 or 5.

Jus10o said:
If I did have a kid. I think this is takin it just a little bit to far.
Its the kids life, not his and the parents. GPS tracker, fine. Your entire life tracker, not fine.
Why not just go all the way and get a live satellite feed on your kid while your at it. He will grow up with no experience in Anything. While all of his friends with have 100x more common sense and understanding of thing because they discovered things for themselves.
I would say there is a limit to parenting, you have to let the kid figure things out on his own, do things wrong on his own. Sucks if you cant put them in the right direction.
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I agree with you to a point and I really dont want to turn this into a parenting thread BUT I used to think the same way "you know let the kid experince life and learn from thier mistakes" thats what we did" but at then I became a parent and I relized just how much the world has changed. it used to be that you could let your kid go outside and ride their bikes and not have to worry becuase everyone in the community watched out for eachother, now I have to worry about pervs that might try to take my daughter and I can honestly say with one exception that i dont think my neighbors would do anything. then you have the pervs on the net and every celebrity basically saying that its ok to be permiscuious. as the father of a girl, yes i want to know where she is and if shes ok and yes if shes sending out inapropriate photos.
as for the work stuff. if the company provides you with a phone on thier dime then they have the right to know what you are using it for.

wtphoto said:
on the other hand I think that as a parent you need to raise your children correctly to avoid needing this and as an employer if I cant trust my employees then why are they working for me? so I do see the need but it is still kinda sad that it is needed.
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yessir....

Visionikz03 said:
Exactly!!!! Why would u hire someone u cant trust? Just to have a body? Sounds like the risks outwheigh the benefits. And if parents arent raising their children right and expecting some secretive software to cover up their inability to teach morales and respect to their children then what is this world coming to?
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my point precisly but at the same time I see the use for it becuase I worry about the other people out there.

i understand not trusting other, not so much the kid. But this software, text, email, contacts, calls the whole 9 yards. I can understand gps. You know where they are, and if you dont hear from them, you can just check.
Also if the kid were to ever get in trouble (assuming the kids 13+ and not an idiot maybe younger if you got a smart one) he/she would catch on that his/her phones being monitored. Who wouldnt ditch the phone and use another way of communication. Or better, leave the phone at home and then sneak out. $100 for the year down the drain

Jus10o said:
If I did have a kid. I think this is takin it just a little bit to far.
Its the kids life, not his and the parents. GPS tracker, fine. Your entire life tracker, not fine.
Why not just go all the way and get a live satellite feed on your kid while your at it. He will grow up with no experience in Anything. While all of his friends with have 100x more common sense and understanding of thing because they discovered things for themselves.
I would say there is a limit to parenting, you have to let the kid figure things out on his own, do things wrong on his own. Sucks if you cant put them in the right direction.
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This is 100% true. A few of my friends have parents that ALWAYS want to know where they are, what they're doing, and want them to call like every hour. Let me just say, I'm so thankful my parents don't do that to me. Mind you, it's not a bad thing to be checked in on every once in awhile (my parents did that), but that's just ridiculous. My common sense level compared to theirs, as well as my level of maturity, is just so much higher. I end up learning things either myself or the hard way, but I appreciate that. Now whenever I'm confronted with a task, I'm able to think for myself, and I have the confidence to know I can do things on my own. Sorry that got off-topic, but I believe there is a point where parents need to settle down and trust their kids. I've earned my parents trust, and am able to a lot more without restrictions because of it.

my parents never trusted me, and now im homeless. true story brah.
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chfields said:
Thats a great idea.......I use spy programs on my kids computer to monitor what he doea and where he goes. Found him visiting soft core porn sites....He hasn't done that since.....
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or he discovered proxy servers, flash browsers, or cached pages.

I am on the fence about this one. I read the article and immediately thought this would be perfect for my daughter.
However, it is a tough call. Realistically, the only thing this type of technology is guaranteed to do is cause a level of resentment and disstrust towards the parent.
The ultimate question...Is it worth it? If this prevents a crime towards the child then I think it is, but for day-to-day child raising I think it may cause more damage than good. It is awfully difficult to teach values to a child if they think you are spying on (and thus don't trust) them.

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chfields said:
Thats a great idea.......I use spy programs on my kids computer to monitor what he doea and where he goes. Found him visiting soft core porn sites....He hasn't done that since.....
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You are a sick individual. I guess you're getting your kids ready for the world of lost privacy. Maybe this will be a good trait to practice with your children even though the invasion of privacy, especially from someone they trust, is sure to be a great topic at their adult counseling sessions. I suppose you're some type of religious person who uses punishment and guilt in training your child as opposed to education and positive reinforcement. But... how can I blame you, your parents probably did it to you, and their parents to them and so on. Still though, who will break the cycle? Think about if your parents, not only had access to, but actually analyzed every single conversation or thought you ever had. It's so disturbing. This is a form of child abuse and at the minimum the child should completely understand that they have no privacy. Just disgusting.
If you're guessing, yes I've raised a perfect moral, social, trustworthy and intelligent 5 year old boy.

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You are a sick individual. I guess you're getting your kids ready for the world of lost privacy. Maybe this will be a good trait to practice with your children even though the invasion of privacy, especially from someone they trust, is sure to be a great topic at their adult counseling sessions. I suppose you're some type of religious person who uses punishment and guilt in training your child as opposed to education and positive reinforcement. But... how can I blame you, your parents probably did it to you, and their parents to them and so on. Still though, who will break the cycle? Think about if your parents, not only had access to, but actually analyzed every single conversation or thought you ever had. It's so disturbing. This is a form of child abuse and at the minimum the child should completely understand that they have no privacy. Just disgusting.
If you're guessing, yes I've raised a perfect moral, social, trustworthy and intelligent 5 year old boy.
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ok first i think that if people like you are going to start judging the way that others are raising thier children then this thread needs to be closed and you need to seriously take a look at yourself before you do anything else you can raise your children the way you like but dont judge others (unless there is actual abuse going on) second you have a 5 year old wait 7 or 8 years and then you might change your mind teens are a completely different ball game.
and on that note my final thought to you and then I am leaving this thread alone is that I see parents like you all day long I even have a friend that raises her kids with the same line of thinking and im not saying that you are wrong but most of the time they are spoiled brats that have no respect for any adult other than thier partents. Also everytime you see a parent on the news after their kids been taken by some perv you hear the same thing "we had no idea he/she was doing anything like that" oversight is your job as a parent if somethign happens to your child it is no ones failure but your own.

Dumming down my G1

Hi everyone
I've been babying this idea for a while now. My mother is completely retarded when it comes to electronics and she can barely operate her clam-shell Nokia so I'm thinking of dumming down my spare G1 to a point where she can use it. I know it may sound stupid to some but G1 has 1 main advantage over dumb phones and that is that it has touch screen. My mom wouldn't have highlight anything to select, she can just touch what she sees.
I am looking for some ideas and/or advice, I don't expect any help, just want to see what people think about this. Here's what I plan on doing:
Downgrade to donut or better yet, cupcake.
Remove All apps.
Remove bluetooth, data and wifi modules (possible? how to?)
Install ADW launcher and downgrade it to 1 homescreen.
Place shortcuts to most basic functions (SMS, Dialer, Camera, Pictures Settings, etc) on that 1 screen
Metamorph drawer handle to be transparent so she doesn't go in there.
Anything else?
With all that stuff removed, the phone should be extra fast and battery should last pretty long (I would guess over 2 days)
What do you all think?

Don't forget to explain to her what all of the buttons do. And if you can, turn off the camera button in case she accidentally presses it.

superNES64 said:
Don't forget to explain to her what all of the buttons do. And if you can, turn off the camera button in case she accidentally presses it.
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Good points.. although I think that G1's buttons are self explanatory and she actually uses camera once in a while.

Man, for me to say this is like needles in my eyes, but i realized the best phone to get for ppl like that(my mom is one, and she has the phone now) is actual the iphone, that phone was really made for slow, or non technology ppl, i should here how to surf the net make a call and check her email, and she was quick to pick up on there cause all buttons right there and in obvious place...
the iphone is really made for the slow simple people, thats why so many like it
her previous phone was the simple simple dial and call phone nothing fancy it was like those prepaid phones for like 30 bucks, and she could handle it cause buttons where small and any other reason to complain about.. for here there no real buttons to only 3 buttons home and 2 volume buttons everything else was jus there couldnt miss the big GREEN call sign or the big RED end send

Ha-ha, that's funny. I would get one for my mother but iPhone still has too much stuff in it and no way to mod it. On the other hand, I have 2 spare G1s that I can play with until they are easier to use then your average dumb phone lol
Keem em coming guys (and gals)

I'd unroot to 1.0 and leave it there, lol.

borodin1 said:
Ha-ha, that's funny. I would get one for my mother but iPhone still has too much stuff in it and no way to mod it. On the other hand, I have 2 spare G1s that I can play with until they are easier to use then your average dumb phone lol
Keem em coming guys (and gals)
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That's the beauty of iPhone you can jailbreak it and get the tweak called poof and hide all the icons that you know wont be using what I did so there is only like four icons

ilostchild said:
That's the beauty of iPhone you can jailbreak it and get the tweak called poof and hide all the icons that you know wont be using what I did so there is only like four icons
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Yea, iPhones are actually a great stepping stone into the smartphone world for people who aren't very tech savvy. I'm pretty sure anyone could learn to use one fully after a while of playing with it. Of course, this boils down to your service provider.

r3s-rt said:
Yea, iPhones are actually a great stepping stone into the smartphone world for people who aren't very tech savvy. I'm pretty sure anyone could learn to use one fully after a while of playing with it. Of course, this boils down to your service provider.
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Yes and no. My folks don't need/want smart phone and I don't feel like paying another $60 for data plans for them. The idea of "poof and hide" is great though... advanced launcher does the same thing as far as I know but I wouldn't even want them to know that there's drawer, only the shortcuts on main screen.

lol might aswell just a get a clone phone with all functions broken

borodin1 said:
Yes and no. My folks don't need/want smart phone and I don't feel like paying another $60 for data plans for them. The idea of "poof and hide" is great though... advanced launcher does the same thing as far as I know but I wouldn't even want them to know that there's drawer, only the shortcuts on main screen.
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once agian the beauty of that, dont need a data plan for the iphone, ad again my mom jus uses it as phone she has no data on the phone, and the plus side of it there is no drawer on the iphone only icons, and 3 main buttons total,
i dont like the iphone at all, but for a starter and simple phone that any dunce can use it is the best pphone to get

ilostchild said:
once agian the beauty of that, dont need a data plan for the iphone,
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You care to elaborate on that? Does iPhone not do background data at all? That might be an option... those 1st gen iphones are pretty cheap nowadays.

No, she owns a 3g and doesnt do background.. it doesnt even have background data... unless you enable push notification, not only that my buddy owns a 3gs and he has no data, an using tmobile on it.. iphone doesnt really need data, it can use wifi.. but yea there lot ppl that dont have data, and can still use iphone.. just food for thought

Caught a thief red handed...

Excuse my typing below but its 4:15AM...I've been drinking..
So I went out with a few "car forum" buddies out today. We decided to head to local bowling alley which honestly ****ing hate. So we're playing there and I decide to leave my phone at a chair in the area we're in. So I see an old ex co-worker, he's 2 buddies and some girl. I say what's up, etc. After they dip...within a minute I'm looking for my phone and I'm like ****...looking everywhere..nothing. I don't forget my phone ever so I know I left it on the chair next to my friend's keys, etc. So I tell my buddy to go outside with me cause I just had a feeling that one of these guys might've taken them.... So as I'm walking outside they look over and I call my ex co-worker over to ask him if he's seen my phone which looks like an iPhone (Samsung Vibrant Galaxy S..lol). And he's like nah man sorry. At the same time I notice one of his friends step over a few feet and get next to some beige looking Crown Vic and acts like he's looking at the tire...I paid no attention to that. And I'm thinking to myself..damn I left the phone on vibrate. But then I remembered I purchased an app called "Where's my droid" and set special "words" that if I text it it can switch off vibrate and turn the ringer to the highest volume and even turn on the GPS so I can track it. So I text it with my friend's phone. Within 30 seconds I hear the phone ringing....I'm looking and looking...and I see it at the Crown Vics rear passenger tire. Then one of them which wasn't the one starts to get all defensive...."That isn't my car"...."I drive that car there"....and at the same time Im telling him that I don't think the Vibrant grew legs and walked over by this tire. He's buddy was the one who stole it. My ex coworker and his girl were in shock that their 2 friends just did that ****. Before even a fight could break out in the parking lot my buddy calm me down.

In this stories current state...its pretty much the worst.story.evar.
I cant wait to read the sobered up version. Glad you took drunken notes. Kinda fun to read.
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shoulda ripped him a new one.

Finish Him

People these days. Why let your buddy talk you out of a fight. My screen name says it all. Smash punks. You let him get away with it, he will try again. I'd kill that fool.

A clever ploy for an advertisement! Glad you got your phone back mate
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zaduma said:
Finish Him
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Lol...time for some Mortal Kombat!
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zaduma said:
Finish Him
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I'll admit I laughed out loud at this comment. Ouch, just noticed I spelled thief incorrectly in the title block.

flexnix said:
I'll admit I laughed out loud at this comment. Ouch, just noticed I spelled thief incorrectly in the title block.
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Haha, good to know. Anyways please don't change your story now that you're awake and sober. It is a - mazing.

I put that app on every android I get to play with. It works very well. I guess Latitude would be just as effective, well maybe not.

10/10 this thread rules. Would read again
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flexnix said:
Excuse my typing below but its 4:15AM...I've been drinking..
So I went out with a few "car forum" buddies out today. We decided to head to local bowling alley which honestly ****ing hate. So we're playing there and I decide to leave my phone at a chair in the area we're in. So I see an old ex co-worker, he's 2 buddies and some girl. I say what's up, etc. After they dip...within a minute I'm looking for my phone and I'm like ****...looking everywhere..nothing. I don't forget my phone ever so I know I left it on the chair next to my friend's keys, etc. So I tell my buddy to go outside with me cause I just had a feeling that one of these guys might've taken them.... So as I'm walking outside they look over and I call my ex co-worker over to ask him if he's seen my phone which looks like an iPhone (Samsung Vibrant Galaxy S..lol). And he's like nah man sorry. At the same time I notice one of his friends step over a few feet and get next to some beige looking Crown Vic and acts like he's looking at the tire...I paid no attention to that. And I'm thinking to myself..damn I left the phone on vibrate. But then I remembered I purchased an app called "Where's my droid" and set special "words" that if I text it it can switch off vibrate and turn the ringer to the highest volume and even turn on the GPS so I can track it. So I text it with my friend's phone. Within 30 seconds I hear the phone ringing....I'm looking and looking...and I see it at the Crown Vics rear passenger tire. Then one of them which wasn't the one starts to get all defensive...."That isn't my car"...."I drive that car there"....and at the same time Im telling him that I don't think the Vibrant grew legs and walked over by this tire. He's buddy was the one who stole it. My ex coworker and his girl were in shock that their 2 friends just did that ****. Before even a fight could break out in the parking lot my buddy calm me down.
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So this is the clean-n-sober version...? Whew....
Lookout is free & does the find my phone gig.
-bZj

down8 said:
So this is the clean-n-sober version...? Whew....
Lookout is free & does the find my phone gig.
-bZj
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I've never tried Where's My Droid..I have Lookout but I also have another app called SMS Commander that does the same thing and a lot more. You can silence it, set it to loud or vibrate too. You can send it a command to forward all the texts going to it to another phone. You can get the location of your phone. You can set it on Spy Mode and it will fwd SMS messages to whatever number you want, tell you phone #'s that call your phone and even send you GPS location of your phone when the call was answered or placed. You can even send it a command to send someone a text message and it will look like it came from your phone. This app works great. I've had it since my G1 days..I installed it on my Nexus, my MyTouch Slide and my Vibrant.

smashpunks said:
People these days. Why let your buddy talk you out of a fight. My screen name says it all. Smash punks. You let him get away with it, he will try again. I'd kill that fool.
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Bit much but I understand. I do agree that the OP should have beat the **** out of him. It is true they will do it again.

So you didn't do anything? Let the dude put your phone behind a tire and thats it? 500 bucks?
Smash people yo

moSess said:
Bit much but I understand. I do agree that the OP should have beat the **** out of him. It is true they will do it again.
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Didn't really mean kill, but I would have totally cleaned his clock... I can't believe people wouldn't do that out of natural reaction. Dude jacked him and he just took phone back..... wow. No wonder people do **** like that..
Good think he didn't need his GPS to find it, it would have sent him to another city with the system wonderful GPS.lol

and what would happen if one just did a hard reset on the phone? or switched it off? lol

...because everybody knows violence solves any problem.
Is this forum full of cavemen or what (no offense Geico dude)? Maybe the real learning moment here is to not set down a $500 phone and walk away. Definitely a good read, and I think you've convinced me to install one of these apps, because you never know.
And to the Neanderthals with all the great advice above, for the love of humanity, please don't procreate.

caldjeff said:
...because everybody knows violence solves any problem.
Is this forum full of cavemen or what (no offense Geico dude)? Maybe the real learning moment here is to not set down a $500 phone and walk away. Definitely a good read, and I think you've convinced me to install one of these apps, because you never know.
And to the Neanderthals with all the great advice above, for the love of humanity, please don't procreate.
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Yea I agree, fight the urges that make you a human because some of us can't taken a whoopin.
Instead, pull your XD40 out of it's holster and ... Oh right.
On a serious note: Sometimes violence is the answer. Don't just eat everything mommy feeds you.

Yeah I mean I woulda fought him, dude tried to **** you over, but I mean shady people like that should go to jail for a night atleast if people weren't gonna let y'all fight

[Q] Fired employee pattern locked his phone, need the data

We fired an employee yesterday, and when he returned his phone we discovered that it is pattern-locked. I need to get around the lock to see if he has any important company data stored on his phone...
Is there any way to do this on the Shift?

Factory wipe would get rid of anything on his phone, try sliding the keyboard open to wake the phone, I know sometimes that got around the pattern lock back on my moment, never used the pattern lock on this phone, sorry.
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ovalprocess said:
We fired an employee yesterday, and when he returned his phone we discovered that it is pattern-locked. I need to get around the lock to see if he has any important company data stored on his phone...
Is there any way to do this on the Shift?
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Well first off, any important data would be stored on the SD card.
Doing a factory wipe would wipe what is on the phone, not the SD card. Nothing would really be on the phone though unless you want to dig around in his text messages.

Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.

ovalprocess said:
Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
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You might have to contact Sprint for a record of those. I don't know of any way to get around the pattern lock.

If he enabled USB debugging, you will be able to get at a lot of stuff with adb... including the text message database.

ovalprocess said:
We fired an employee yesterday, and when he returned his phone we discovered that it is pattern-locked. I need to get around the lock to see if he has any important company data stored on his phone...
Is there any way to do this on the Shift?
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Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
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Just call the guy you fired and ask him for the password. Sounds to me like the simple and adult solution. Who cares if his feeling are hurt or it will be awkward, its like turning in the office keys when you leave.

+1 Could've been a simple oversight on his part.

ovalprocess said:
Actually, I DO want to dig around in his text messages. I work for an IT consulting firm, and I need to know if he was communicating to clients via text.
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Kind of seems ironic that he can't break the code since he works for an IT firm.

lvpre said:
Kind of seems ironic that he can't break the code since he works for an IT firm.
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Totally ironic. Try ADB?

lvpre said:
Kind of seems ironic that he can't break the code since he works for an IT firm.
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Not really, information technology != software security
That's like saying it's ironic that a mechanical engineer can't make his own electronic circuit board

c00ller said:
Not really, information technology != software security
That's like saying it's ironic that a mechanical engineer can't make his own electronic circuit board
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No, it actually is ironic and also hilarious.
It's more like a mechanic that doesn't know how to rebuild a transmission.
--Sysadmin/IT professional/Tech Support professional of 10+ years.
edit: Then again, it's not a bad question, but you have to admit it's a bit ironic.
riggsandroid said:
Just call the guy you fired and ask him for the password. Sounds to me like the simple and adult solution. Who cares if his feeling are hurt or it will be awkward, its like turning in the office keys when you leave.
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This times a million.

VICODAN said:
No, it actually is ironic and also hilarious.
It's more like a mechanic that doesn't know how to rebuild a transmission.
--Sysadmin/IT professional/Tech Support professional of 10+ years.
edit: Then again, it's not a bad question, but you have to admit it's a bit ironic.
This times a million.
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Actually, judging how many combinations you can do with the pattern lock, it would take a quite while to figure out the right combination since there's literally thousands of doable combinations that have to be done manually (afaik) not automated by a script. It isn't ironic at all. Why waste the time? I wouldn't want to bang my head against a wall when the solution is a simple phone call away. And I've been doing IT as long as you have.

cosine83 said:
Actually, judging how many combinations you can do with the pattern lock, it would take a quite while to figure out the right combination since there's literally thousands of doable combinations that have to be done manually (afaik) not automated by a script. It isn't ironic at all. Why waste the time? I wouldn't want to bang my head against a wall when the solution is a simple phone call away. And I've been doing IT as long as you have.
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I wasn't talking about the validity of the question at all. It's a great question.. since nobody seems to know the answer I would just suggest taking out the battery and seeing if you can boot into recovery and mounting it via USB if USB debugging is enabled and/or messing with ADB on the phone..
Also, why is this company giving their employees Android phones and not Blackberries? Blackberries can be controlled via BES. Maybe it's just a husband trying to hack his wife's phone?

VICODAN said:
I wasn't talking about the validity of the question at all. It's a great question.. since nobody seems to know the answer I would just suggest taking out the battery and seeing if you can boot into recovery and mounting it via USB if USB debugging is enabled and/or messing with ADB on the phone..
Also, why is this company giving their employees Android phones and not Blackberries? Blackberries can be controlled via BES. Maybe it's just a husband trying to hack his wife's phone?
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My last job was using Droid Incredibles. Android phones can be controlled via Exchange ActiveSync security policies. I personally did it at my last job to **** with this guy that was an annoying asshole. Made it so he had to enter his AD password whenever he wanted to unlock his phone and I'd data wipe his phone weekly. He'd ask me about it and I'd tell him it's security policy. I had him convinced that everyone was having the same thing done when they weren't.

Honestly: If I knew the answer I wouldn't tell you. Bypassing someone's security is not the kind of information you should be able to get from XDA.
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Sounds more like a jealous boyfriend wants to look at his girls texts.
You gotta admit, it sounds plausible....

I know how to accomplish this, and it is actually quite simple, but I would never share this with some a***ole employer that wants to spy on their employees.

cloverdale said:
I know how to accomplish this, and it is actually quite simple, but I would never share this with some a***ole employer that wants to spy on their employees.
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Then why waste the time to post here and talk **** to some guy who might be actually telling the truth and needs to get work info off that phone?
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e240 said:
Then why waste the time to post here and talk **** to some guy who might be actually telling the truth and needs to get work info off that phone?
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You don't think the whole story is fishy? The way I see it, he has two obvious options:
1. Call the employee. Ask for the pattern.
2. If he refuses, call the cops.
The fact that he is not doing either of these indicates that he does not have a legitimate reason for wanting the info.
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Data-Miner Android L

I am starting to think that I am not going to use Android L.
Look at this. So, Search, from thegreatestdataminingcompanytheworldhaseverknown is now metasticized throughout the Android OS. Every page, every app, calls out to thatsearchengineeveryoneuses. It's even listening when the phone's OFF! I'll say that again: it's listening all the time. And there's no way to disable it! Coming from Intelligence, and as I've never trusted them, I've always deinstalled most G**gle apps, but now it appears their creepy circus-colored fingers have permeated throughout.
I realise that my point of view will strike many Upright Citizens as shocking because, after all, 'we can trust them'. All I can say is, our public education system has failed us. (Hint: If you are not paying for a product...
... you are the product)
Time for me to start looking into Linux options. Failing that, I'll just stick with Carbon 4.4.4, which serves fine. Oh, I'll probably try Andriod L, but I'm pretty sure now of what I'll find.

Interesting read. I never trusted them when it comes to your data and listening. Lol

If they want to watch me look at tits and asses, so be it

And the Moto X has had always on listening since release, better just throw the phone away and get a dumb phone...
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How do they decide who to listen too? That's a lot of people to eavesdrop on. ?

Quantumstate said:
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It's even listening when the phone's OFF! I'll say that again: it's listening all the time. And there's no way to disable it! Coming from Intelligence, and as I've never trusted them, I've always deinstalled most G**gle apps, but now it appears their creepy circus-colored fingers have permeated throughout
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Reading that post says to me that the phone listens when the screen is off, not when the phone itself is off.
There are also options to turn off the "search from any screen" feature.
So I guess I am not quite as paranoid as you, yet.
Maybe that's why fewer devices have removable batteries; so we can't turn them off all the way.
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murso74 said:
If they want to watch me look at tits and asses, so be it
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You have a misconception of your importance. This, you were trained into though, so you come by it honestly.
Darth said:
How do they decide who to listen to? That's a lot of people to eavesdrop on.
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Doesn't matter. With a security mindset you assume it's always you. Ask Schnier.
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Quantumstate said:
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It's even listening when the phone's OFF! I'll say that again: it's listening all the time. And there's no way to disable it! Coming from Intelligence, and as I've never trusted them, I've always deinstalled most G**gle apps, but now it appears their creepy circus-colored fingers have permeated throughout
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Reading that post says to me that the phone listens when the screen is off, not when the phone itself is off.
There are also options to turn off the "search from any screen" feature.
So I guess I am not quite as paranoid as you, yet.
Maybe that's why fewer devices have removable batteries; so we can't turn them off all the way.
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Ya, but what proof do we have at this point that it's not listening when actually -off-? I have none. (ref: OnStar) If you deal in sensitive matters, would you give them the credit? I wouldn't.
Looking into this, I find there is no viable Linux alternative, as we used to have with Opie. So either I block everything G**gle with an independent app like Android Firewall, or do with 4.4.4.

Oh no! Now everyone will know about my life because I'm super-important.

I'm not going to even try to say that Google does no wrong and doesn't use most of the data we send to it for advertising, but they don't listen to you, the phone does.
The phone listens for certain frequencies of sound in certain orders, if it doesn't see those, it keeps looking. It doesn't record every single thing said and send it to Google, it only sends what you say to it (everything past "OK Google").
It's the same way a button works. Nothing records when a button isn't pressed, but things records when it is.
As for the rest of Google, they do make their living off of a free service, what more can you expect? I'd rather pay for a no ad version of their stuff instaid, but untill that's possible, that's just the way it works if you want those beautiful services.

i really couldnt give a flying hoot nannies @#$% about that i have got absolutely nothing to hide. i read an artical a while back that the CIA tracks anybody who is "tor curious" hi CIA i really dont care if you're reading this because im on you internet monitoring list or whatever. i am not doign anything that i dont have the right to do. Damn i love the US. anyhow if your concerned about that what about this than?

Quantumstate said:
You have a misconception of your importance. This, you were trained into though, so you come by it honestly.
Doesn't matter. With a security mindset you assume it's always you. Ask Schnier.
Ya, but what proof do we have at this point that it's not listening when actually -off-? I have none. (ref: OnStar) If you deal in sensitive matters, would you give them the credit? I wouldn't.
Looking into this, I find there is no viable Linux alternative, as we used to have with Opie. So either I block everything G**gle with an independent app like Android Firewall, or do with 4.4.4.
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It's simple my friend...... A smartphone is not for you then. Get an old flip phone and no one will spy on you. ?
No tablet or computers with cameras or microphones either.
New cars have Bluetooth... Not good.
Some TV's and video game consoles have cameras. Gone.
Can't think of anything else just yet. ?

Yeah.. it's not recording and streaming everything you say. The always listening feature isn't going to decipher everything you say until it matches the hot word, that would kill your battery. It's only kicks in when it detects multiple tones in a certain order.. I don't even know why I'm typing this, think what you want dude, that's not how it works. Keep your conspiracy theories to yourself.

bluebloomers said:
I'm not going to even try to say that Google does no wrong and doesn't use most of the data we send to it for advertising, but they don't listen to you, the phone does.
The phone listens for certain frequencies of sound in certain orders, if it doesn't see those, it keeps looking. It doesn't record every single thing said and send it to Google, it only sends what you say to it (everything past "OK Google").
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The phone has a co-processor which is independent of the main system. Sure, its main function is to watch for keywords and instigate searches based on commands, but it can also be co-opted. I'm not saying any more because apparently I'm frightening a few people here who don't want to face it.
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It's simple my friend...... A smartphone is not for you then. Get an old flip phone and no one will spy on you. ?
No tablet or computers with cameras or microphones either.
New cars have Bluetooth... Not good.
Some TV's and video game consoles have cameras. Gone.
Can't think of anything else just yet. ?
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Nice trivializing there, Darth. Of course I've hardened what I have, and since this is such a touchy subject I'm not giving any hints. You have no idea who I am or why I bring this up.
You guys just blithely hand over all your contacts, your network of friends, your calendar, the websites you visit, your searches, your location 24x7, hell your very phone calls. I feel sorry for younger people these days who have no idea that all their online activity will follow them around -forever-. The stupid things they say online, being victimized by bullies, all will follow them to every future job application, every romantic engagement, and their future neighbors will know more about them than they can imagine. And I feel sorry for those whose self-esteem is so low that they feel worthless.
You just have no idea what prostrating yourself to the authorities like this, means. You have no idea what it was like in East Germany or Soviet Russia, much less where we're headed. You've never read 1984 or Fahrenheit 451. And you will pay the price by a subtle enslavement which is too abstract for you to understand, without an education. Something will smell bad but you will never be able to figure out what it is nor do something about it.
I am not here to bicker or school you. I was just trying to do y'all a favor by giving you a perspective that you may not have seen, with everyone so anxious to be "licking your lollipops". I tried to help, but some of you are too cool for me.

Thanks for that. Maybe you should unmask yourself and make a proper point rather than misguiding, misinterpreting and mistakenly telling everyone that they are stupid. Oh yes, and telling everyone what they may or may not have read (wrong on both counts).
Where did you get your education? Were you ever told to think for yourself? Let's go back over that last one again, as modernity tends to gloss it... Were you ever told to think for yourself?
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^ completely agree

Yes, I know. I'm the bad guy, lol.
See, this is why no one any longer shares any real information with you on The Internets. You feel frightened of what you are doing when I demonstrate why... and so you senselessly take it out on -me- rather than getting your own sh*t together. Good job there.
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Oh yes, and telling everyone what they may or may not have read (wrong on both counts).
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Don't lie. No one will believe you after a while.
Remember, privacy is an inherent human right, and a requirement for maintaining the human condition with dignity and respect.
Cardinal Richelieu understood the meaning of surveillance when he famously said, "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." Watch someone long enough, and you will find something to arrest -- or just blackmail -- with. Privacy is important because without it, surveillance information will be abused: to peep, to sell to marketers and to spy on political enemies -- whoever they happen to be at the time.
We do nothing wrong when we make love or go to the bathroom. (the adults here, anyway) We are not deliberately hiding anything when we seek out private places for reflection or conversation. We keep private journals, sing in the privacy of the shower, and write letters to secret lovers and then burn them. Privacy is a basic human need.
If we are observed in all matters, we are constantly under threat of correction, judgment, criticism, even plagiarism of our own uniqueness. We become children, fettered under watchful eyes, constantly fearful that --either now or in the uncertain future-- patterns we leave behind will be brought back to implicate us, by whatever authority has now become focused upon our once-private and innocent acts. We lose our individuality, because everything we do is observable and recordable.
How many of the adults present have paused during conversation in the past four-and-a-half years, suddenly aware that we might be eavesdropped on? Probably it was a phone conversation, although maybe it was an e-mail or instant-message exchange or a conversation in a public place. Maybe the topic was terrorism, or politics, or Islam. We stop suddenly, momentarily afraid that our words might be taken out of context, then we laugh at our paranoia and go on. But our demeanor has changed, and our words are subtly altered.
This is the loss of freedom we face when our privacy is taken from us. This is life in former East Germany, or life in Saddam Hussein's Iraq. And it's our future as we allow an ever-intrusive eye into our personal, private lives.
Liberty requires security without intrusion, security plus privacy. Widespread surveillance is the very definition of a police state. And that's why educated people must champion privacy even when we have nothing to hide.

The level of stupid in this thread astounds me. If someone wants your information or something of yours, they're going to get it. It doesn't matter if your phone is always listening or not.
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'Good job' there, eh, "imnuts".
Giving up is not the answer.

i love how, when everyone doesn't jump on this tools bandwagon, he turns on the forums.

Op is as a TROLL!
Thread is ridiculous!