Hello all,
I'm very new to the XDA fourms, and would like to thank everyone for having and keeping such a supportive community for Android based products
I would like to start off saying I just recently purchased a Nexus 4 and I would really like to root it, i'm a complete noob too rooting and have a few questions. I did read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688 and the how too Youtube video. questions below
1. I did see that i can keep the custom rom and just unlock and root my device, but will this allow me to change my cpu speed and such to conserve battery or would i need to install a different kernal and rom?
2. After rooting and unlocking my device and keeping stock rom will i still be able to get OTA updates without reverting back to factory state? or would i have to revert back to factory state DL the OTA update and re-root again?
3. I know that nexus 4 tool kit says Root Stock Jelly Bean builds (upto 4.2.1 JOP40D), can i use this for 4.2.2 or is their a updated Tool kit for 4.2.2? and if their is can someone please provide a link i tried searching for it and couldn't find anything, and preferably from Mr. mskip
I know these questions have probably been asked a million times and i apologies in advance for that. (noob problems )
Also advice and opinions are always extremely welcome :good:
Best,
Pkang
pkang said:
Hello all,
I'm very new to the XDA fourms, and would like to thank everyone for having and keeping such a supportive community for Android based products
I would like to start off saying I just recently purchased a Nexus 4 and I would really like to root it, i'm a complete noob too rooting and have a few questions. I did read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688 and the how too Youtube video. questions below
1. I did see that i can keep the custom rom and just unlock and root my device, but will this allow me to change my cpu speed and such to conserve battery or would i need to install a different kernal and rom?
2. After rooting and unlocking my device and keeping stock rom will i still be able to get OTA updates without reverting back to factory state? or would i have to revert back to factory state DL the OTA update and re-root again?
3. I know that nexus 4 tool kit says Root Stock Jelly Bean builds (upto 4.2.1 JOP40D), can i use this for 4.2.2 or is their a updated Tool kit for 4.2.2? and if their is can someone please provide a link i tried searching for it and couldn't find anything, and preferably from Mr. mskip
I know these questions have probably been asked a million times and i apologies in advance for that. (noob problems )
Also advice and opinions are always extremely welcome :good:
Best,
Pkang
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1. CPU control is a function of the kernel. You can keep the stock kernel, but I'd recommend a custom one. More features and capabilities.
2. I may be mistaken, but I believe your OTA will function as long as you are on the stock ROM and kernel with the factory files in place and the stock recovery. That's a lot to sacrifice for an update, especially when they'll be readily available here.
3. Don't use a toolkit. Use the rooting sticky to learn how to do it right.
thank you
estallings15 said:
1. CPU control is a function of the kernel. You can keep the stock kernel, but I'd recommend a custom one. More features and capabilities.
2. I may be mistaken, but I believe your OTA will function as long as you are on the stock ROM and kernel with the factory files in place and the stock recovery. That's a lot to sacrifice for an update, especially when they'll be readily available here.
3. Don't use a toolkit. Use the rooting sticky to learn how to do it right.
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thank you so much!
so use this sticky thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183555
or can you recommend one?
pkang said:
thank you so much!
so use this sticky thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183555
or can you recommend one?
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Yes, that thread has a lot of great info you should read up on if you are new to all of this.
Here is also a great thread if you just want to root the stock ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
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El Daddy said:
Yes, that thread has a lot of great info you should read up on if you are new to all of this.
Here is also a great thread if you just want to root the stock ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
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much much thanks!
Also i just wanted to know why the nexus 4 toolkit isn't recommended for beginners?
best,
Parm
pkang said:
much much thanks!
Also i just wanted to know why the nexus 4 toolkit isn't recommended for beginners?
best,
Parm
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Because when one uses a toolkit nothing is learned. If they ever run into a problem they won't know how to fix it. It also makes it more difficult for others to help because they don't understand the terminology.
I wrote more about this last January. That thread is linked in my signature "Dangers of toolkits and one click root methods."
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I wouldnt worry about updates.
Devs upload there ROMs with new android updates quickly.
Itll be much easier just to flash custom UPDATED ROMs than ota updates in my opinion.
Franco kernel would be a great start for you as well.
Amazing kernel.
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Goodafternoon
I have a simple question for you
I am new user Android and I have Nexus 7 with android 4.2 (original without modify)
what are the step/order for unlock my Nexus 7?
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I have read varius threads (little confusion)
Root--->bootloader---->clockwork or bootloader--->root---->clockwork or other....
thank for all
Use the Nexus Root Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
You'll need the latest version to root 4.2 but it should be a simple enough job.
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Use the Nexus Root Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
You'll need the latest version to root 4.2 but it should be a simple enough job.
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thank for your tips,
but if I want use ADB command line what are the step?
Troute said:
Use the Nexus Root Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
You'll need the latest version to root 4.2 but it should be a simple enough job.
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I would suggest you stay stock for a few days. Maybe a week or so as im sure there will be another update in the very near future.Once that is out my suggestion will be to do a new google image download and flash that after a full wipe..
This is how i am going to handle this new 4.2 system.. Let them work the kinks out before i start flashing something custom again...
Good Luck either way.
erica_renee said:
I would suggest you stay stock for a few days. Maybe a week or so as im sure there will be another update in the very near future.Once that is out my suggestion will be to do a new google image download and flash that after a full wipe..
This is how i am going to handle this new 4.2 system.. Let them work the kinks out before i start flashing something custom again...
Good Luck either way.
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Hi Erica,
I was hoping you can help with a question. I am currently stock, rooted, original custom recovery, I have OTA rootkeeper installed and SuperSU v0.98 running Android 4.1.2. If i was to update via the OTA version 4.2 how would you recommend I go about it. Should I run the factory reset on the tablet, should I remove SuperSU (heard from other posts could cause an issue when upgrading) or unroot it from that application. There are so many posts with different ideas so i was hoping you may have a good solution
Thanks,
JBIRD
I'm receiving my new VZW G2 tomorrow. Just was wondering what the best root/ unlock method to use is? Any ROM suggestions. Any help would be appreciated. I apologize in advance if this is the wrong section.
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jzmax22 said:
I'm receiving my new VZW G2 tomorrow. Just was wondering what the best root/ unlock method to use is? Any ROM suggestions. Any help would be appreciated. I apologize in advance if this is the wrong section.
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You may want to look in this section "G2 Android Development (Verizon)"
You should be able to find everything you need there.
jzmax22 said:
Just was wondering what the best root/ unlock method to use is?
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There is no bootloader unlock, but we have the loki exploit. This is a workaround that circumvents the need to unlock the bootloader to install ROMs, etc. So with that out of the way, to root you'd want to use this thread.
jzmax22 said:
Any ROM suggestions.
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Check out the development section for the Verizon G2. It should have you covered. CyanogenMod/AOSP-based ROMs are still unstable as of yet, but Verizon progress is arriving quick. If I were you, I'd wait until they do a beta release and perhaps have support for double-tap to wake.
All other ROMs are based off stock. They are a huge improvement over your factory ROM, removing bloatware and such. I like CleanROM for the AT&T variant, but have found that for straight-up features and de-bloat on Verizon, Malladus is quite nice and wins my recommendation. It also has the fix for Mobile Hotspot not reporting to Verizon baked in, as well as a smaller nav bar. I highly recommend using the mods in that thread to get the Recents key on your navigation bar instead of menu. Much more useful.
jzmax22 said:
I apologize in advance if this is the wrong section.
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It is the wrong section! The first post, a sticky, in this forum reads: This device has its own Q&A Forum... Please use it. Questions do not go in GENERAL.
It's okay though, your thread will hopefully be moved. I still answered your question. Just know that some people will be bothered by the clutter we've created
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Oh boy, are you in for a treat. I came from the Galaxy Nexus as well. Couldn't be happier with the battery life, among everything else.
Sacrosaint said:
There is no bootloader unlock, but we have the loki exploit. This is a workaround that circumvents the need to unlock the bootloader to install ROMs, etc. So with that out of the way, to root you'd want to use this thread.
Check out the development section for the Verizon G2. It should have you covered. CyanogenMod/AOSP-based ROMs are still unstable as of yet, but Verizon progress is arriving quick. If I were you, I'd wait until they do a beta release and perhaps have support for double-tap to wake.
All other ROMs are based off stock. They are a huge improvement over your factory ROM, removing bloatware and such. I like CleanROM for the AT&T variant, but have found that for straight-up features and de-bloat on Verizon, Malladus is quite nice and wins my recommendation. It also has the fix for Mobile Hotspot not reporting to Verizon baked in, as well as a smaller nav bar. I highly recommend using the mods in that thread to get the Recents key on your navigation bar instead of menu. Much more useful.
It is the wrong section! The first post, a sticky, in this forum reads: This device has its own Q&A Forum... Please use it. Questions do not go in GENERAL.
It's okay though, your thread will hopefully be moved. I still answered your question. Just know that some people will be bothered by the clutter we've created
Oh boy, are you in for a treat. I came from the Galaxy Nexus as well. Couldn't be happier with the battery life, among everything else.
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Thanks for all the great info! Greatly appreciated! I'm pretty familiar with Loki. I had the s4 for a short stint.
Can't wait for the G2!
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I came from a GNex as well. I've had my G2 for about 2 weeks now and I'm in love and still finding out little things about it. The rear buttons will take some time to get used to and are styled differently than the other variants. I like the others better but you'll get the hang of it.
I flashed Malladus 1.1.3 last night and it's a huge improvement over stock. It's debloated (there is a ton of bloat on this thing) and doesn't have any negative effects on battery life. One tip I can offer is instead of following the directions to install TWRP, download the free app called Flashify and flash the recovery image. It took two seconds and worked like a charm.
Lockett said:
One tip I can offer is instead of following the directions to install TWRP, download the free app called Flashify and flash the recovery image. It took two seconds and worked like a charm.
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Please do not use Flashify, and please do not recommend Flashify. There is a chance that it will ruin your boot partition, putting your phone into a bootloop that can only be fixed by flashing back to stock. Take the few seconds needed to run the proper adb commands in this thread.
Option 2 is easy and safe. Please use it as opposed to Flashify. The devs on Freenode #lg-g2 have had to help a LOT of people who got screwed over by that app, and therefore removed it from that thread. Please proceed with caution.
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Please do not use Flashify, and please do not recommend Flashify. There is a chance that it will ruin your boot partition, putting your phone into a bootloop that can only be fixed by flashing back to stock. Take the few seconds needed to run the proper adb commands in this thread.
Option 2 is easy and safe. Please use it as opposed to Flashify. The devs on Freenode #lg-g2 have had to help a LOT of people who got screwed over by that app, and therefore removed it from that thread. Please proceed with caution.
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Thanks for the heads up. I generally use an adb method opposed to the one click methods. Thanks for all the community support, this why XDA is the best.
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This is actually the easiest device I've ever rooted and installed custom recovery. Probably because there was no need to unlock bootloader.
It was quite breeze. I just hope the development for the VZW version picks up.I'm sure it will soon!
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ehi guys, just got a N4.
I'm wondering, why root , unlock and install a custorm rom on a Nexus 4, Google?
Just asking what good things i can have.
And if is difficoult to unlock and root to install custom roms on a 4.3.
Thanks everyone
Reasons here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTkHe7-lXw
Instruction here if you want to try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
If you have to ask why then maybe you don't need root. You might brick your device if you try to install custom rom and do it incorrectly, just try rooting first. You don't exactly "install custom rom on 4.3", but over the entire device itself, wiping out your previous stock Android 4.3.
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There is no reason. People just want to do it. Don't over analyze simple things.
ismethajametovic said:
There is no reason. People just want to do it. Don't over analyze simple things.
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You might got that wrong here mate.
Mentioning a few examples, like making full backup of your device system or blocking ads , does it seem like rooting for fun or because someone wants to get more from his device?
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davibs said:
ehi guys, just got a N4.
I'm wondering, why root , unlock and install a custorm rom on a Nexus 4, Google?
Just asking what good things i can have.
And if is difficoult to unlock and root to install custom roms on a 4.3.
Thanks everyone
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This is xda and no need to make a thread to ask that question... Not trying to be rude but there are 100's maybe 1000's of threads and reasons pros and cons that you can look at and draw up your own conclusion. Again no disrespect but the choice is yours and the reason both pro and con are out there.
Check Development and Check Themes and Apps for your good stuff
Good Luck :good:
Rooting is mandatory! For the extra functions for your device! The custom ROM thing! Give it a try! Been using CM since the GNex! But have been using and happy with stock for a while now. But with out exploring what custom ROMs offer, your always going to be wondering what the fuss is about! So give it a try! Once your rooted and a custom recovery is installed. Its as simple as copying a few over to your memory, and flashing. CM and PA are good starts but usually find custom ROMs are more of a drain on battery.
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Themindbuddah said:
Once your rooted and a custom recovery is installed. Its as simple as copying a few over to your memory, and flashing.
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You dont need to be rooted to install a custom rom. (flashing the custom rom will give you root) You just need a custom recovery.
first I would like to say please don't flame me if this has been answered elsewhere Lol.I have already tried the search function with no luck.
I have a galaxy s4 AT&T that I just received from warranty and I would like to install the latest update with root capabilities I believe its 4 .3 as I couldn't find anything for 4.4
I'm looking for a package which includes the stock TW 4.3 update w root and cwm.
as I mentioned before I have tried the search function several times as well as looked through the threads in the android development section. If there is a link that you could provide me with i would be immensely grateful.Thanks in advance!
The bootloader is locked. You can't flash a stock package with root. There's also no exploit to flash any recovery. Read the nice clear threads in the general section like the index and root guide for MK2.
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DeadlySin9 said:
The bootloader is locked. You can't flash a stock package with root. There's also no exploit to flash any recovery. Read the nice clear threads in the general section like the index and root guide for MK2.
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I am aware of the locked bootloader I didnt realize that was the reason i was unable to flash CWM previously only root. Thanks for the info!
so I just powered on the new device and they shipped it with 4.4 damn it lol. Is there a way to downgrade to 4.3 then root? The reason I chose to stick with TouchWiz is because in the past w my S2 when flashing ROMs there was always some glitch or missing features even w the safest CM roms.so hypothetically speaking if I decided to go with a custom ROM so that I may have CWM could you possibly recommend a good one that will not lack any features or capabilities and stable of course. Thanks
alfizzle said:
I am aware of the locked bootloader I didnt realize that was the reason i was unable to flash CWM previously only root. Thanks for the info!
so I just powered on the new device and they shipped it with 4.4 damn it lol. Is there a way to downgrade to 4.3 then root? The reason I chose to stick with TouchWiz is because in the past w my S2 when flashing ROMs there was always some glitch or missing features even w the safest CM roms.so hypothetically speaking if I decided to go with a custom ROM so that I may have CWM could you possibly recommend a good one that will not lack any features or capabilities and stable of course. Thanks
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You need to do a lot of reading. See the general forum and read all you can on nb1 and mk2. There is a work around to get a rooted, touch wiz rom on your device. But you won't get cwm on your device. Look for safestrap too
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HOLY S**T!!! you werent joking when you said alot of reading...wow. Finally finished...then wifi/data wasnt working so it took a little extra time and research(8hours total LOL) but i got everything up including safestrap! Thanks for the guidance. very much appreciated!!!!:highfive:
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HOLY S**T!!! you werent joking when you said alot of reading...wow. Finally finished...then wifi/data wasnt working so it took a little extra time and research(8hours total LOL) but i got everything up including safestrap! Thanks for the guidance. very much appreciated!!!!:highfive:
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Good job! Now you know how to do it. And, yea, lots of good stuff out there but did take awhile to digest it all.
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hey everyone, Im a newbie when It comes to roms and flashing, I currently have clockwork mod and stock 4.4.4 and wanted to ask will I get the official lollipop? Even if I have clockwork mod? But stock KitKat? Thank you for reading
michalziom29 said:
hey everyone, Im a newbie when It comes to roms and flashing, I currently have clockwork mod and stock 4.4.4 and wanted to ask will I get the official lollipop? Even if I have clockwork mod? But stock KitKat? Thank you for reading
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as far as i know, and that can be wrong, if your android is untouched (no root or anything else (like xposes framwork)) you will get the update over the air.
BUT if you don't there are factory images that you can download and flash your phone quite easily
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/how-to-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2010312
or a toolkit to do it automatically
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/how-to-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2010312
i would recommend to do it with the first method. if something goes wrong you will know what is it and you can ask for help. with the toolkit if something goes wrong things are more complicated to find the error.
P.S. if you decide installing the factory images via console (first option), it is highly recommended to read the entire process first and after do the procedure.
My phone is rooted, but i dont have any custom ROMs or framework , will this affect it? Or when I get the update my root will simply be gone?
michalziom29 said:
My phone is rooted, but i dont have any custom ROMs or framework , will this affect it? Or when I get the update my root will simply be gone?
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You'll lose root and the custom recovery with the ota. But if you haven't modified / deleted any system files you should get the ota.
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I've searched some threads and some said you don't get ota if you have clockwork mod (I have it) and I really don't know what to do...should I go back to stock? I'm not good with that stuff and afraid I will brick it, any ideas or advice?
michalziom29 said:
I've searched some threads and some said you don't get ota if you have clockwork mod (I have it) and I really don't know what to do...should I go back to stock? I'm not good with that stuff and afraid I will brick it, any ideas or advice?
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You should be ok. If you're really worried about cwm you could flash the stock recovery image in fastboot. But I wouldn't unless the ota fails, which it shouldn't
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Thank you one more question, will I still get ota notification ? As in, it might fail but will I still receive like I would normally?
michalziom29 said:
Thank you one more question, will I still get ota notification ? As in, it might fail but will I still receive like I would normally?
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Yes, you'll get it and it will download
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Thank you, I was happy that android L is so close but then I saw people say those with clockwork won't get it, thank you for the answers and clearing it up!
michalziom29 said:
Thank you, I was happy that android L is so close but then I saw people say those with clockwork won't get it, thank you for the answers and clearing it up!
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No problem
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Do you by any chance know if android L Is releasing today? I've heard many people say Nov 3 rd for nexus devices
michalziom29 said:
Do you by any chance know if android L Is releasing today? I've heard many people say Nov 3 rd for nexus devices
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I think you'll see it in the next couple of weeks, not today. The n4 may be even longer
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Alright, thank you again for clearing things up!
It's also worth noting that Google pushes update at different times depending on which area you live in, so even if you read on the news that Lollypop is released on the Nexus 4, it may take a while for your phone to receive the OTA.
Personally, I advice you to install TWRP recovery, its safe and easy to install kernels and roms