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I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?
Obviously every phone is different so some ones would reboot and some wouldn't. Mine doesn't everything works for me perfectly, the only thing thats bugging me is that development isnt doing too good, in not complaining cause I know it will come eventually cause the phone hasn't been out that long. I would go for tho phone 100% I cant find anything wrong with it so and ice had it for over a week now
Hope this helps u
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Mine is up for 550 hours without reboot.
It speaks for itself.
Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)
Well, you are @ arc forum. most people like their phone per details they were looking for. On the other hand, you have to sort out your important facts which you are expecting from your next phone(which varies from one person to another).
Problems you have listed don't appear for everyone, whether I have been lucky with phone or not, I have never encountered issues like that with any of my SE phones.
Your best bet is to go to store and compare list of phones that you are interested side by side and see what makes you happy. but as far as me being an arc owner, I should say that satisfies my needs and I have not yet had any issue with it as everything is solid and moving forward.
I have to say, this phone is exactly what everyone requested from SE to make. Update hardware, software + get rid of all the SCAPES(which is sort of optional now and not integrated anymore) I just love this + possibility to have unlocked bootloader on certain models. What else can you ask?
just my 7 cents
im_iceman said:
Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)
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And huge battery drain from stock camera app.
For 720p recording you can give up image stabilization feature for well-synced audio. For camera you have yo use 3rd party camera app like vignette.
I think this says it all - the Arc is the best single-core handset in the world.
That isn't to say that the Arc is without it's foibles; there are a few things could be better and it's a shame it lacks certain features like a front-facing camera or NFC but the pros outweigh the cons.
It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.
Im also very interested in this i own a x10 and have some questions.im thinkin bout it but just dont think is worth getting . The x10 is unbrickable. Its getting custom kernels that are undoin SE's crap. Plus arc doesnt have any custom roms yet And i like the size and desighn of my x10 . And tthe x10 has a pretty strong xda community
Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.
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Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.
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I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?
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Congrats on being the owner of W995. To me, that's the best non-smartphone without touchscreen ever made
You will definitely be very very happy with Arc. There could be something better depending on your needs but you can't go wrong with Arc and I think Arc is currently the best looking phone for my taste and I think it almost feels as good as W995 ;-)
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It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.
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Why? Because its dual core? That means absolutely nothing! Dual core is not even needed these days. Galaxy S was an over hype phone imo, ditched it in about a week to get back my X10, and the Galaxy S2 will be the continuation of Samsungs over hyped nonsense.
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You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.
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You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.
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I simply stated the galaxy s didnt do a damn thing better or faster than what the x10 already did. Regardless of its specs vs the X10....it was over hyped.
*edit* sorry, the galaxy s video recording destroys the X10.
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Yes, my mistake - you claimed they were basically equal which is still extremely questionable.
I'm not a Samsung person, I think TouchWiz is a horrific, iPhone-y, designed for and by 5-year-olds joke of a UI. And I think the Galaxy S is a cheap plastic PoS handset.
But it blows the X10 out the water every single day of the week - better screen, better CPU, more RAM, much more internal memory, better stills and video camera in my experience, better software support/upgrades (which is saying something given how poor Samsung are at that).
The Galaxy S2 is simply the best handset in the world right now, not only on paper but every review/hands-on with it says the same thing.
It's not just the dual-core CPU, though as time goes on that will definitely be a huge advantage over the likes of the Arc; double the RAM, a better screen (ok, a little less clear-cut than the difference between the Galaxy S and the X10 but it probably still edges it based on little things like viewing angles), significantly more internal memory, larger battery, better video camera - it's even thinner than the Arc!
So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
I'm not saying the Arc is a bad phone, it has genuinely wowed me and I really didn't expect it to but there's no point kidding ourselves that it's living on borrowed time before it's left behind.
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So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
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Well, it's an advantage, but I'm a bit conservative when it comes to say huge advantage. Benchmark is great; But, it's an intensive number-crunching process most of the time. IMO, that deviates what I (and probably most of the users) use my smartphone for. I don't use my smartphones to calculate Pi, audio/video editing, etc.
I think dual-core will be shafted by quad-core even before the mass-adoption of the technology by the app developers.
I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.
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I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.
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That's the one good thing Samsung have done with TouchWiz (apparently).
Hi
I shall make an amendment to the agreement with my mobile op. and I am wondering whether SE Xperia Arc is a good choice. I have always use Nokia phones and I thought to buy Nokia N8, but I when I saw Arc I've changed my mind. Arc design and mutlimedia possibilities are great, but when I read about battery draining, lags, vid/audio sync problems I am not happy about it.
I am wondering if SE will fix this problem soon? Are these problems only software or maybe it is hardware failure? Do you think it will be repaired soon? When the next software update is expected?
Please help me to make a good choice.
Thanks a lot
hi.. battery drain is seemingly caused by a couple of software issues.. camera and google maps.. both of which should be fixed/ fixable.
lags - not seen many/any reports of lag.
video/audio sync - short term fix is either to use fwvga or try switching image stabilisation off. long term SE should be fixing that.
next update from SE expected in the next couple of months..
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Thanks
I have only a liitle knowledge of Andoid system so tell me If I root my phone is it possible to remove google maps and camera soft? Will it help? Or maybe this is possible without rooting the phone?
I got an offer to exchange my x10i for a " HTC Incredible S " I love my x10i a lot but still if there's any worthy advantages in terms of battery under heavy usage then i wanna opt for the Incredible S .
I also think that the development going on in XDA is very slow for Incredible S , i'm also worried about it.
I know its a lot capable than x10 in terms of performance but what about heavy usage battery life and development ? ...
please suggest guys .. Also if someone owns an incredible s please mention your battery life reviews.
No doubt whatsoever. Incredible S.
Totally different class and anybody that tells you otherwise is a SE fan boy.
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No doubt whatsoever. Incredible S.
Totally different class and anybody that tells you otherwise is a SE fan boy.
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+1 -> this is definitely another league!
Of course... proper multitouch, no fps cap... go for it man. Lucky
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No doubt whatsoever. Incredible S.
Totally different class and anybody that tells you otherwise is a SE fan boy.
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yes i know that, incredible s is total different class , but still i m worried about the development that's going on for it , x10's development threads are like 5 times more than incredible s' and i heard there are not much custom ROMs for it and no sections about undervolting too ... can someone who knows better about the development going on over incredible s suggest me something ?
That seems way to good to be true... be very cautious about being cheated. As long as there is nothing wrong with the HTC I'd do it.
The battery capacity on the Incredible is slightly smaller, I'd say it might have a little bit over the X10 in battery life because of an updated kernel.
But it would be hard for me to give up a very good looking phone such as the X10.
someone talk about the chances of android development for incredible s please .. cause no matter what mobile we have , we get bored without development right ?
Dude htc phones have way more development. Check other forums not just xda...
That is an awesome deal you'd be stupid not to take
For design, battery life and camera, custom roms etc X10
For speed, updates, choose the incredible S.
I don't think there will be a big developers community for the S because HTC has released a lot of 2.3 devices recently. I think the vast majority will get the desire s or sensation as the incredible S isn't one of the best looking htc's (especially the backcover. Personally I think all HTC's are ugly except the Legend and the new desire S.
and as skystars said, atm there aren't phones that really look better than the x10. Personally I think the x10 is still the best looking android phone available( less plasticy feel than the arc)
If I were you I would wait a while when newer phones come out. Later this year were expecting android ice cream sandwich which delivers a completely new user interface. Both the incredible s and x10 have (get) gingerbread so you won't get anything 'new'.
You can also get the incredible S, sell it, and buy an x10 again
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For design, battery life and camera, custom roms etc X10
For speed, updates, choose the incredible S.
I don't think there will be a big developers community for the S because HTC has released a lot of 2.3 devices recently. I think the vast majority will get the desire s or sensation as the incredible S isn't one of the best looking htc's (especially the backcover. Personally I think all HTC's are ugly except the Legend and the new desire S.
and as skystars said, atm there aren't phones that really look better than the x10. Personally I think the x10 is still the best looking android phone available( less plasticy feel than the arc)
If I were you I would wait a while when newer phones come out. Later this year were expecting android ice cream sandwich which delivers a completely new user interface. Both the incredible s and x10 have (get) gingerbread so you won't get anything 'new'.
You can also get the incredible S, sell it, and buy an x10 again
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This is a huge fanboy post...
First off he is getting a new phone with a better processor for an old phone.
Secondly the camera on the incredible s is about the same as the x10
The htc is new and already has nearly as much development (even on here) as the x10. It will only grow even more.
Anyone who tells him not to should get their head checked.
Also, am I the only person who doesn't think the x10 is that amazing looking? No one I know seems very impressed by it, it doesn't turn any heads
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This is a huge fanboy post...
First off he is getting a new phone with a better processor for an old phone.
Secondly the camera on the incredible s is about the same as the x10
The htc is new and already has nearly as much development (even on here) as the x10. It will only grow even more.
Anyone who tells him not to should get their head checked.
Also, am I the only person who doesn't think the x10 is that amazing looking? No one I know seems very impressed by it, it doesn't turn any heads
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yes, you are correct
BTW the camera in incredible S is far better than our x10's ... i think the lens are a little advanced .. i checked it myself .. its very fast and snappy and images are surely better .. alright then i m taking it ..
thank you guyzz ... hope i will be in touch here in x10's dev too ...
why would the incredible s need alot of development when the stock rom on it is 10 times faster than our custom roms? go for it!
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yes, you are correct
BTW the camera in incredible S is far better than our x10's ... i think the lens are a little advanced .. i checked it myself .. its very fast and snappy and images are surely better .. alright then i m taking it ..
thank you guyzz ... hope i will be in touch here in x10's dev too ...
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X10 camera is better, just compare them at gsmarena dot com and you'll see way.
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X10 camera is better, just compare them at gsmarena dot com and you'll see way.
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I disagree...
Go look at actual pics from both.
Read reviews and look at the pic quality
scoobysnacks said:
I disagree...
Go look at actual pics from both.
Read reviews and look at the pic quality
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Im sorry to say this but the htc cameras suck! Do not ever say its better than the x10's camera. Im an actual photographer and have actually been doing family portraits and weddings lately...i know how to compare properly...and there hasnt been one htc phone that i checked out that has a "good" camera. Incredible s probably destroys the x10 in every other category but there cameras are less then average. I havent posted in a while, but when i read that i just had to
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Im sorry to say this but the htc cameras suck! Do not ever say its better than the x10's camera. Im an actual photographer and have actually been doing family portraits and weddings lately...i know how to compare properly...and there hasnt been one htc phone that i checked out that has a "good" camera. Incredible s probably destroys the x10 in every other category but there cameras are less then average. I havent posted in a while, but when i read that i just had to
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Have you tried it? Or gone and looked?
Sounds like you're making assumptions to me
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Have you tried it? Or gone and looked?
Sounds like you're making assumptions to me
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Hi scoobysnacks,
Are you now going to act just like in the multi touch discussion? When not only you were slaughtering OmegaRED after saying the x10 is capable of multi touch? Looks like that...
Beside that I must say, HTC phone have one of the worst camera's for smartphones. Just take a few (not one) photo's with the Incredible S and your x10 and I will assure you, that those from the x10 are much better. I'm also sure, that the focus on our x10's is much better then the one of the Incredible S.
So until anybody here has a Incredible S with some pictures, we can't compare which one is the best. But I think the x10 is better, since HTC camera's have never been good quality.
Regards,
iDarkyVM
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Hi scoobysnacks,
Are you now going to act just like in the multi touch discussion? When not only you were slaughtering OmegaRED after saying the x10 is capable of multi touch? Looks like that...
Beside that I must say, HTC phone have one of the worst camera's for smartphones. Just take a few (not one) photo's with the Incredible S and your x10 and I will assure you, that those from the x10 are much better. I'm also sure, that the focus on our x10's is much better then the one of the Incredible S.
So until anybody here has a Incredible S with some pictures, we can't compare which one is the best. But I think the x10 is better, since HTC camera's have never been good quality.
Regards,
iDarkyVM
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PlayGungsta, is this really you, again?! haha, 3rd account... strange that this time your not a girl...?
Also, always writting ''hi ( someones nickname here ),'' and ''ragerds, bla bla bla'' is just foolish unless your like a moderator here or really respected...
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Hi scoobysnacks,
Are you now going to act just like in the multi touch discussion? When not only you were slaughtering OmegaRED after saying the x10 is capable of multi touch? Looks like that...
Beside that I must say, HTC phone have one of the worst camera's for smartphones. Just take a few (not one) photo's with the Incredible S and your x10 and I will assure you, that those from the x10 are much better. I'm also sure, that the focus on our x10's is much better then the one of the Incredible S.
So until anybody here has a Incredible S with some pictures, we can't compare which one is the best. But I think the x10 is better, since HTC camera's have never been good quality.
Regards,
iDarkyVM
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Once again, all I'm saying is don't jump to conclusions united you have proof/evidence...
Lots of people said the same about samsung before the sgs2 camera came out.
so it's wrong of me to say not to generalize, and to want sufficient evidence? From what I've heard and seen, it is quite good actually.
I listen to fact, not opinion...
i had sensation as second phone so i would like to share my feelings.
I purchased this flagship from HTC having HTC desire S, and also HD. Desire S is owned by my wife atm and she is happy enough. so i like HTC - thats for start
First feelings - impressed- nice phone. Got it - charged to full and lets rock!
Booting and starting to check out system. after 1 hour with screen on + wifi my battery went down to 35% - i say ok its the first cycle lets wait. - after one week its the same. if u wanna watch movie in plane while flying for about 2 hours u better take spare battery - not saying there is no divx support at all.
- keeping sync on gmail and just stand by eats the battery about 10% a hour! not touching the device at all.
-i though ok, lets live with pure battery anyway. but then it started. while holding the phone in landscape - death grip is saying HELLLOOOO i am here! loosing conectivity is normal - wifi disapear - signal went down 2. amazing. i coudlnt believe it. i had never suffered from anything like that -talking about HTC.
-web browsing - no hardware acerelation at all means opening web sites with heavy flash content is taking ages. not mentioning zoom in or out during the stream. while SGS2 can keep streaming during the zooming interval without any lags or issues! i was disapointed a badly. i can see small plus with the resolution - u can feel small diference - i mean better - sharper pages. but not brigther or lighter - the display is so reflective that u can use it as mirror and using the phone under direct sunnlight is almost impossible. so one more +handy mirror
someone rings you? hm how can u hear the phone if the volume set on max is extremly low - even my dog cant hear it!!! if u wanna share some youtube video with your friends they gotta put thems ears on the back panel in order to enjoy it. another disapointment - a big one. not speaking about the quality of the speaker (poor anyway) its about the noise level - being extremly low.
i said ok i like HTC so lets find something i can like/enjoy and finally be happy about.
camera/compare to SGS2 is a bit disapointing again. double flash doesnt help. i could paint better pics then sensation can make. i mean it.macro? what is it?
so i kept going and trying - still searching with hope i will like something.
i though ok i will use it as gps navigation in car at least. lol what a fail. after 4 hours on gps battery dead! maybe i am gonna develop double car charger 2in1 in order to keep sensation alive.
no i am not HTC hater at all. but the huge disapointment that HTC made this time is deadly bad. They made nice looking compact device without brain. its like ferrari with skoda engine and seats from seat. i though it will bring something extraordinary and special - even after installing costum roms - the battery improved and speed 2 - not browsing speed and the battery went up from 8 hours moderate use to 8 hours and 10 min - not mentioning juice defender on at all the times ofc.
so i just changed the sensation on local advertising web site for another SGS2 - u set the add and then meet the possible costumer in person.
and i told the guy that i made the deal with him - lets exhchange hurry - and now i will tell u what u did. U could see his frozen face! He become my friend now and after having almost all previous HTC devices he said he wont come back untill something better will be developed - on HTC side.
SO happy days guys here. And just small tip - sensation is the only one device getting closer in terms off hardware to SGS2 - but the reall power of SGS2 is deep in THE SKY!
I hope this will help some people with doubs about battery life and performance issues.
Once again - i have nothing against HTC and i like them, but i believe they didnt set up sensation well atm. looking at stats list it should perform much better then it does. just quick example - i dont like quadrant or bench tests once its fast and smooth i dont need any bench to confirm that. but the highest i could get from sensation was 3400 on quandrant with 1600 OC!!!!! lol
so i will end this with words;
HAPPY BRIGHT DAYS WITH SAMSUNG
forgive me for my broken english
Are you on drugs? None of that post made sense
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The Sensation is seeming more and more like an interim flagship. The E3D already has more RAM and from everything posted Sense 3.0 is a pig and needs all it can get. The Vigor on Verizon is going to have a full 720p display and a 1.5ghz processor. The Holiday on AT&T is going to have a 4.5" qHD display and also 1GB of RAM. By the end of the year the Sensation's going to be forgotten.
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if u dont have anything constructive to say better dont do it - advice for your future life!
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The Sensation is seeming more and more like an interim flagship. The E3D already has more RAM and from everything posted Sense 3.0 is a pig and needs all it can get. The Vigor on Verizon is going to have a full 720p display and a 1.5ghz processor. The Holiday on AT&T is going to have a 4.5" qHD display and also 1GB of RAM. By the end of the year the Sensation's going to be forgotten.
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hm i gotta check it out.
I've only just recently jumped onto android after owning every iphone, the sensation was a handset I was considering but reviews put me off.
The two things that made me avoid it were the lack of amoled, and the apparent locked bootloader.
I never got round to playing with a sensation as the store had no demo models.
I am happy enough with my galaxy s so far though
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I've only just recently jumped onto android after owning every iphone, the sensation was a handset I was considering but reviews put me off.
The two things that made me avoid it were the lack of amoled, and the apparent locked bootloader.
I never got round to playing with a sensation as the store had no demo models.
I am happy enough with my galaxy s so far though
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yeh the bootloader is locked but u can find already few nice leaks on thems forum(sensation forum on XDA). not saying GO FOR IT but honestly at its price range and with its performance better buy SGS2 or stay with SGS1.
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yeh the bootloader is locked but u can find already few nice leaks on thems forum(sensation forum on XDA). not saying GO FOR IT but honestly at its price range and with its performance better buy SGS2 or stay with SGS1.
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How long do you think the galaxy s 2 will stay top end for?
I know technology moves quickly but I just hope I made the right decision and there's not a better phone coming out next month or something....
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How long do you think the galaxy s 2 will stay top end for?
I know technology moves quickly but I just hope I made the right decision and there's not a better phone coming out next month or something....
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If I had to guess, I'd say either a SGS2.5 or SGS3 will be out before the holidays. The Nexus 3/Prime is supposed to be out in October and the advances I mentioned above in the two HTC phones will probably prompt Samsung to release something higher end. Think about this though. They just updated and are continuing to sell a version of the SGS1 and it's been out for over a year. So the SGS2 may not be state-of-the-art by Christmas but it should still very much be current.
honestly i believe u can use SGS2 for about an year - untill another companies will reach its level. and SGS2 will last on the top untill SGS3 will be released. and the date inst confirmed yet. but SGS1 is still a good phone. if u dont have enough money or dont wanna waste it just stay where u ar and wait for bargain to upgrade.
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If I had to guess, I'd say either a SGS2.5 or SGS3 will be out before the holidays. The Nexus 3/Prime is supposed to be out in October and the advances I mentioned above in the two HTC phones will probably prompt Samsung to release something higher end. Think about this though. They just updated and are continuing to sell a version of the SGS1 and it's been out for over a year. So the SGS2 may not be state-of-the-art by Christmas but it should still very much be current.
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Thanks.
That's one thing I find overwhelming coming from apple phones, android has so many handsets running so many different versions of the operating system.
With an apple handset you're pretty much fine for a year, though you have to put up with the restrictive nature of ios.
Ah well either way I'm going to try and keep hold of this handset for 12 months, unless something really tempts me to "upgrade"
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if u dont have anything constructive to say better dont do it - advice for your future life!
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Future life? I don't believe in reincarnation
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Zac95 said:
Are you on drugs? None of that post made sense
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Lol... epic...
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Future life? I don't believe in reincarnation
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Not every one on these forums is a native English speaker. Go easy on the guy
I appreciate the OP's comments as I have been wondering how the HTC sensation fares compared to the SGS2. I also find it funny that the HTC battery seems to be a little worse than SGS2 especially given the complaints by some SGS2 users about battery life. I can watch about 5 hours of video on mine no problem.
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I appreciate the OP's comments as I have been wondering how the HTC sensation fares compared to the SGS2. I also find it funny that the HTC battery seems to be a little worse than SGS2 especially given the complaints by some SGS2 users about battery life. I can watch about 5 hours of video on mine no problem.
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I have the Sensation as well and the battery life on it is pretty bad. On the SGS2 with moderate to heavy use I get about 16-18 hours. WIth the Sensation it's a miracle if I get 10. There are two things about the Sensation that are better than the SGS2 and only one is of any practical significance. The first is the HTC keyboard. The auto-correct function on the HTC device is excellent and is far better than Samsung's stock keyboard. The other is weather. No one comes close to what HTC has done with their weather UI. It's nice eye candy but that's about it.
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If I had to guess, I'd say either a SGS2.5 or SGS3 will be out before the holidays. The Nexus 3/Prime is supposed to be out in October and the advances I mentioned above in the two HTC phones will probably prompt Samsung to release something higher end. Think about this though. They just updated and are continuing to sell a version of the SGS1 and it's been out for over a year. So the SGS2 may not be state-of-the-art by Christmas but it should still very much be current.
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I wouldnt know what to feel if something new and better comes out before the end of the year, If they are going nvidia quadcore (Kal-El) then its highly possible they are gonna out a 720P screen as its been in production already.. I wonder if they improved anything aside from bumping the res.
The SGS1 was the fastest phone for almost a year when it got released. NOTHING from the competition could compare when it came down to pure specs last year.
The Desire HD and iPhone 4 were the closest competition, and the SGS1 always won out in benchmarks and in IRL usage.
I would say that the SGS2 will probably not be trumped until early next year. The Nexus Prime will probably have similar innards as the SGS2
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The Desire HD and iPhone 4 were the closest competition, and the SGS1 always won out in benchmarks and in IRL usage.
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iRL usage there are some few aspects the the Iphone4 is faster but other usage scenarios the S1 was faster and was even far more functional than the Iphone4.
Im pretty sure Iphone5 will be targeted to compete with the S2, Infact I even wish the Iphone5 would be better + faster in the majority of tests so that Samsung and Google can hurry up ang release the S3 and ICS.
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Are you on drugs? None of that post made sense
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Made sense to me... Just read.
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"Advantages of the S3 over the One X (international version):
Better SoC, also quad core but the HK-MG technology means significantly battery saving Vs NVIDIAs solution
Better GPU
Better battery capacity
Battery removable
Micro SD slot with exFAT compatibility
Likely much better sound quality given Wolfson DAC (I have the One X now and it's sound is passable, not a patch on the S1 I used to own)
Better GPS with GLONASS
Much better video capture (stills quality still unknown, but GSMarena preview makes me tend to think the S3 will best the One X there)
It hardly boils down to design and TW Vs Sense (S3 loses on both counts, but since most here won't use the stock launcher regardless the second point counts for a lot less than it will for the general consumer)."
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25893455&postcount=10
"Advantages of the S3 over the One X (international version):
Better SoC, also quad core but the HK-MG technology means significantly battery saving Vs NVIDIAs solution
Better GPU
Better battery capacity
Battery removable
Micro SD slot with exFAT compatibility
Likely much better sound quality given Wolfson DAC (I have the One X now and it's sound is passable, not a patch on the S1 I used to own)
Better GPS with GLONASS
Much better video capture (stills quality still unknown, but GSMarena preview makes me tend to think the S3 will best the One X there)
It hardly boils down to design and TW Vs Sense (S3 loses on both counts, but since most here won't use the stock launcher regardless the second point counts for a lot less than it will for the general consumer)."
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Design and TW vs Sense are both subjective. Some will find the S3 design and TW more to their liking
HOX
- unibody build, nice design, feels great in the hand and very premium.
- companion core is amazing for standby time
- screen is one of the best if not IPS displays I've used, great all around
- better battery life if web browsing due to LCD
- camera hardware is good
- software in general isn't the best yet, falls behind Samsung by a good margin as usual
- some quality control issues being sorted out especially with displays
- tegra zone if ur into that
Both
- Quad-core is overkill, newer architecture would be best. Was hoping for the dual-core Exynos based off 28nm to be in SGS3. S4 Krait looks like the way to go for now in terms of performance and battery savings.
SGS3
- exynos 4 is faster as well as gpu
- software hardware integration is one of the best
- samoled hd has best blacks and vivid though oversatturated colors, Samsung tweaked it better supposedly
- pentile is still a bit noticeable, not a dealbreaker
- still using plastic and definitely feels "cheaper"
- sd support, removable bigger battery
- IMO the design is ugly, especially the back. The white color looks okay.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Both phones are much more comparable than Sgs2 and sensation. They trade blows and comes down to what you want.
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HTC One X over Samsung Galaxy S III
Impressive polycarbonate unibody
Brighter IPS LCD2 screen with a full set of subpixels
Beats Audio
Already on the market
Likely a bit cheaper
Samsung Galaxy S III over HTC One X
Bigger screen - 4.8" over 4.7"
Higher display contrast and better sunlight legibility
More storage options - 16/32/64GB + microSD over non-expandable 32GB
S Voice natural language commands and dictation
S Beam for easy and fast file transfers
User-accessible 2100mAh battery over non-removable 1800mAh battery
1.9MP front-facing camera with Smart Stay
+ Better sound quality
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If your showing gsm arena like everyone else theyre not a good source and their test is outdated.
Look for anandtech with their updated software. The international one x gets 7 hours of 3g web browsing. S4 one x get over 9 hrs of 3g web browsing, over 5 hrs with lte.
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Chillz88 said:
Typical comparison from an htc fanboy regretting his buy.. looK At the words 'definitely' 'ugly'.. i bet you are regretting your buy looking at the amount you troll here and how hard you try to keep up with your posts telling htc is good and blah... lol.. i did like the htc one x but people like you make me wonder if i might later be in denial mode like you later....seriously isnt there enough development in the htc forums to keep you busy..
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People like you make me lose faith in mankind. Where in my posts does it make me look like a fanboy. I've had the past 3 samsungs and loved them.
I said clearly in the post IMO capitalized the design is ugly. Obv everyone won't feel the same.
Im making valid scientific comparisons and based off me having had the galaxy nexus and galaxy s II as well as original galaxy s. I thought I hit all the right points. Samsung software and soc is better, HTC software sucks. Does that sound like a fanboy?
Take your ignorant bashing posts elsewhere.
Have you held and compare the one x with something like the galaxy nexus. Don't tell me the galaxy nexus feels more high quality because even though its great, plastic is plastic and doesnt feel as nice.
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Should we add comparisons to the Evo 4G LTE in this thread? because that phone will be much closer to the GS3 US release - both will have the same cpu, same size battery and sdcard, so the only difference will be the screen, software and chassis - and even the chassis is probably going to be different.
Yawn. Anyone got anything new for the table?
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Posted this in a different S3 vs HOX thread, I'll just drop it off here
I honestly don't think the HTC phones in general look that cool. Maybe it's just me, but none of them really stand out to me, they all seem weird :/ I think people just think they're nice looking, because that's what they're told and that's what everyone's lead to believe by the company. If you've never seen a smartphone in your life and someone handed you the one X and the S3, I think people would probably think the S3 is a nicer looking phone. I mean, everyone seems to think the iPhone 4s is the nicest looking thing out there, but it's not. My initial reaction when I very first saw it was 'That thing is ugly'. It's going backwards, phones should be getting softer corners, everything lately has been rounded. The 4S has some weird boxy shape to it, yet after a week or so the general consensus is that it's the best looking phone out there. Why? Because it's an iPhone. I think the same goes for HTC, I've seen their production video for the HOX, I'm aware of the work they put into designing it, and I appreciate that. But personally, I really don't think it's a great looking phone, it's weird. Especially when phones have a white back and a black front, it doesn't look professional to me. It looks as if the company got cheap and decided to switch out the plastic on the back instead of making an entirely new phone; again, my reaction when I saw the dnifferent Razr color variants that all still had a black front, I was like 'That looks stupid?'. I really just think that the S3 is a better looking phone. And in general HTC has too many bugs with their products on ship, both hardware and software wise, I think everyone can agree on that. But even disregarding that, I really don't like Sense either. it's snazzy looking sure, but it's a memory hog and HTC phones are notoriously slow because of it. Not to mention development is difficult. I've never understood the hate for TouchWiz, it might not look as nice as some other launchers and Android UI variations out there, but it sure as hell offers the best performance. I've never used a phone as smooth as the S1 and the S2, ever. In fact they run smoother than the Galaxy does ICS, and I'm speaking from experience and many other sources. That's what rooting is for though, just install a theme and keep the speed plus that comes with TW.
Maybe other people agree with me, maybe they don't. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine. And someone might get really worked up over this post because they disagree with everything I'm saying. But that's my opinion, feel free to discuss
pewpewbangbang said:
If your showing gsm arena like everyone else theyre not a good source and their test is outdated.
Look for anandtech with their updated software. The international one x gets 7 hours of 3g web browsing. S4 one x get over 9 hrs of 3g web browsing, over 5 hrs with lte.
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GSMarena is way more accurate in terms of battery comparison.
I get around 4 hour using my HTC One X browsing with around 10% juice left. So its pretty accurate.
pewpewbangbang said:
People like you make me lose faith in mankind. Where in my posts does it make me look like a fanboy. I've had the past 3 samsungs and loved them.
I said clearly in the post IMO capitalized the design is ugly. Obv everyone won't feel the same.
Im making valid scientific comparisons and based off me having had the galaxy nexus and galaxy s II as well as original galaxy s. I thought I hit all the right points. Samsung software and soc is better, HTC software sucks. Does that sound like a fanboy?
Take your ignorant bashing posts elsewhere.
Have you held and compare the one x with something like the galaxy nexus. Don't tell me the galaxy nexus feels more high quality because even though its great, plastic is plastic and doesnt feel as nice.
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I remember getting a similar answer from you in a different thread, it's just weird to see you being so active on a forum for a phone that you see as inferior, or at least not to your liking... I didn't mean to be a jerk back then but some of your phrasing really sounds like you are making yourself feel better over your purchase. For example: "exynos 4 is faster as well as gpu, but not a humongous difference, nothing noticeable both are more than fast enough for anything out" Why explain? it's faster period. Even the dual core of the S2 is more than enough for pretty much everything on the market so why do you have to downplay it by adding stuff like that?
Both phones are great and have their pros and cons we all know that but right now, the still unoptimized S3 which is not even yet released wins most if not all "hands on" reviews. So it is almost certainly the better phone. The screen is a matter of taste. I prefer AMOLED and I'm saying that as an intermediate photographer... I have my dedicated equipment for "natural" colours and such and I see no use for it on a phone and multimedia device. As far as multimedia goes it looks FAR better on an AMOLED screen for the blacks alone. Not to mention it has a far superior battery life when it comes to that.
HTC seems to aim at the hip, young and "cool" audience where as the galaxy series seems to aim more at the matured audience IMO. Beats audio by "Dr. Dre" and Sense as an indication for that... I can't stand the looks of sense and while TouchWiz will not win any beauty contest it still looks more grown up to me, especially those small changes they did in the app drawer etc.
MultiLockOn said:
Posted this in a different S3 vs HOX thread, I'll just drop it off here
I honestly don't think the HTC phones in general look that cool. Maybe it's just me, but none of them really stand out to me, they all seem weird :/ I think people just think they're nice looking, because that's what they're told and that's what everyone's lead to believe by the company. If you've never seen a smartphone in your life and someone handed you the one X and the S3, I think people would probably think the S3 is a nicer looking phone. I mean, everyone seems to think the iPhone 4s is the nicest looking thing out there, but it's not. My initial reaction when I very first saw it was 'That thing is ugly'. It's going backwards, phones should be getting softer corners, everything lately has been rounded. The 4S has some weird boxy shape to it, yet after a week or so the general consensus is that it's the best looking phone out there. Why? Because it's an iPhone. I think the same goes for HTC, I've seen their production video for the HOX, I'm aware of the work they put into designing it, and I appreciate that. But personally, I really don't think it's a great looking phone, it's weird. Especially when phones have a white back and a black front, it doesn't look professional to me. It looks as if the company got cheap and decided to switch out the plastic on the back instead of making an entirely new phone; again, my reaction when I saw the dnifferent Razr color variants that all still had a black front, I was like 'That looks stupid?'. I really just think that the S3 is a better looking phone. And in general HTC has too many bugs with their products on ship, both hardware and software wise, I think everyone can agree on that. But even disregarding that, I really don't like Sense either. it's snazzy looking sure, but it's a memory hog and HTC phones are notoriously slow because of it. Not to mention development is difficult. I've never understood the hate for TouchWiz, it might not look as nice as some other launchers and Android UI variations out there, but it sure as hell offers the best performance. I've never used a phone as smooth as the S1 and the S2, ever. In fact they run smoother than the Galaxy does ICS, and I'm speaking from experience and many other sources. That's what rooting is for though, just install a theme and keep the speed plus that comes with TW.
Maybe other people agree with me, maybe they don't. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine. And someone might get really worked up over this post because they disagree with everything I'm saying. But that's my opinion, feel free to discuss
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Your comment is kind of hard to read, but I'd have to say I'd be surprised if 8-9 out of 10 people didn't prefer the hox design. Not only the general shape, but the feel, the way front facing camera and sensors are integrated into a nice looking design etc. I really can't see why samsung made the sgs3 look so messy, particularly with placement of flash, sensors etc.
Sense is a memory hog, but it looks good, with nice widgets etc, is user friendly, and htc have listened to feedback by slimming it down.
As you say, for most people on here the phone will be rooted and sense/TouchWiz isn't an issue.....although I do like being able to choose between sense/de-sensed/miui/vanilla android/CM9 ROMs.
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MultiLockOn said:
And someone might get really worked up over this post because they disagree with everything I'm saying. But that's my opinion, feel free to discuss
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As long as you don't try to make your personal opinion out to be what everyone else should be thinking and imply that they're somehow not quite right in the head for disagreeing with you, have at it. Your opinion's no more valid or invalid than anyone else’s.
LCD vs. AMOLED, PenTile vs. non-PenTile, design, feel, and build materials are all subjective and therefore can't be right or wrong. Things like fixed storage and non-replaceable batteries aren't debatable. However whether they're important to everyone equally is.
There’s “right” and then there’s “general consensus.” From the amount of commentary regarding the SGS3’s design both here and in the press the general consensus is that it’s not universally appealing. Even the GSMArena review which has now become the penultimate validation of the SGS3's supremacy commented on it. Personally, I’m getting a SGS3 in spite of its looks; not because of them.
pewpewbangbang said:
If your showing gsm arena like everyone else theyre not a good source and their test is outdated.
Look for anandtech with their updated software. The international one x gets 7 hours of 3g web browsing. S4 one x get over 9 hrs of 3g web browsing, over 5 hrs with lte.
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tests are always a point in time capture of things and it is imho just right to compare both devices with stock configuration. you could always argue "but if i do this and that my device is faster/better" but that is not the point.
if you tell someone who wants to decide between a volkswagen golf and a honda civic that the volkswagen golf is faster, just because you have the GTI version or did something to the engine to make it faster will not really help the guy trying to compare the two cars. of course you could apply an update for the htc one x and than gain an advantage, but now samsung users could say "but if you install the latest samsung rom you again get better results" and so on. there are many many many devices that never see an update at all, because their owners are either afraid of OTA-messages telling them to update or they simply do not install the manufacturer update software on their PC. to get back to the car analogy, if you tell the guy to get a volkswagen golf, because it's faster and the guy does it and ends up being disappointed with slower car because he thought it was faster as is and not with tweaks/tuning you are to blame.
i could again argue that my galaxy s II is faster than the htc one x because i get higher scores in some due to the uber-cool minimalistic rom i installed. should i tell anybody now to buy the galaxy s2 because its better than the htc one x ?
it is remarkable how much time htc one-x users spend here in a "foreign" forum to flame against the samsung galaxy s3. seriously, if i had a htc one x i would by happy with it and if i am content with the situation i enjoy it and feel no need to visit forums of other devices to tell them that my device is superior.
this really looks like a case of cognitive dissonance where you try to construct a "version" of reality where the purchase of the htc one x against waiting for the galaxy s3 makes sense.
Chillz88 said:
Typical comparison from an htc fanboy regretting his buy.. looK At the words 'definitely' 'ugly'.. i bet you are regretting your buy looking at the amount you troll here and how hard you try to keep up with your posts telling htc is good and blah... lol.. i did like the htc one x but people like you make me wonder if i might later be in denial mode like you later....seriously isnt there enough development in the htc forums to keep you busy..
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Why do you get so upset and feel that he's regretting his buy? It looks to me that he's pointing out his opinion quite respectfully. Ugly isn't how i'd describe it but to me it looks plain, it looks like a samsung, but i'll still buy it. The thread title will lure one x owners here, can you not see that? I hope the sgs3 lives up to your expectations and has no launch issues as yourself and the other members that struggle to deal with differing opinions will struggle to deal with the sniggers from the one x owners.
The sgs3 forum is the place to be if you want a comparison thread between one x and sgs3, its almost as if some people are trying to justify choosing the samsung after it failed to live up to hype by bashing the one x.
For American Variants on Sprint:
HTC EVO 4G LTE:
-Dedicated Camera Button
-Kickstand
-Available in your hands May 18th
SGS3 - Sprint Variant(Assumptions):
-+100mAH battery size
-Removable battery
Tossup:
Screen size
Screen tech (Pentile vs LCD)
Sense vs TW
Build Quality (HTC One X > SGS3, but EVO varies from it for better or for worse)
Sound Quality (If the DaC is based on the SoC, should be very similar)
Processor
GPU
And release date of GS3 in the US is unknown - it could be delayed months. Also there is a good chance the phone we get won't have a physical home button (at least with Sprint).
1orka said:
Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post:
"No, I met the controlled environment where they had the phones take photos of photo comparison.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=3621
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=3621
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It is no coincidence that that noise in all the other images remain. The noise is only more evident in these comparisons. Scroll all along the pictures to see what I'm talking about.
Taking pictures of my dogs with my HOX I can actually notice a noise on them, and zooming in it is more evident.
Look around the brown, you see a noise.
What you say might be true, I honestly won't know till I get my SGS3 and do my own comparisons on a daily basis and choose between the One X and SGS3."
I do see noise but it's also a lot brigher
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3...w=759&idPage=5
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3...w=759&idPage=5
And again, there is blue tint on SGS3 sample.
And i'm not interested at looking at grey charts and some crappy quality posters, if i already have real life photo samples, including those taken in controlled environment, where i clearly see who the winner is, sorry..
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So what you are saying here is that you are not interested in anything that doesn't support your argument but only interested in things that support your argument?
Basil3 said:
Your comment is kind of hard to read, but I'd have to say I'd be surprised if 8-9 out of 10 people didn't prefer the hox design. Not only the general shape, but the feel
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here comes the first flaw in your theory. so you say people would prefer the htc one x because of the feel, even though you did not ever touch the galaxy s3...
Basil3 said:
, the way front facing camera and sensors are integrated into a nice looking design etc. I really can't see why samsung made the sgs3 look so messy, particularly with placement of flash, sensors etc.
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how a symmetric order of flash, camera lense, loudspeaker grill is perceived as "messy" can only be explained by the math teacher that probably gave you low grades in geometry.
in general i like very much that samsung did take a further step with touchwiz to improve the user experience in a way that will omit the need to root the phone for user interface tweaks. just think of how they integrated what jkay added with the scrollable notification bar shortcuts... very nice i gotta say
So it's time for a new phone for me from the Evo 3D. I keep phones for 2 years and I choose phones based upon specs and what I like (didn't get the 3D for the 3D).
I am asking for the best attempt for non bias opinions for which would be the best phone to own for 2 more years.
I would have gotten the Galaxy S4 if it came with the 8 core but since it comes with a quad core at 1.8Ghz over the HTC One's 1.7 that is no longer and issue. With Kernels and OC I'm sure they will both be very stable at 2Ghz which is plenty fast for a phone.
My biggest concerns are the Camera, the sound, screen quality, size and customization.
Camera:
So far I am loving the HTC One's low light camera. If I want a high MP camera then I will use a camera but most of the time I want to take a picture with my phone and it turns out bad it is in low light. So I like to give the +1 to HTC One on camera plus the Zoe feature seems very nice and useful. I will have to wait to see how the two compare and I hope the Galaxy S4 has some samples after it gets announced.
Sound:
I like the amplified speakers on the HTC One, though It doesn't mean the Galaxy S4 isn't going to sound nice. I havn't heard anything about the speakers on the Galaxy S4 so I need to know more about this one to make a decision on which gets the +1.
Screen Quality:
This is a tough one for me, both are probably spectacular and screen size isn't what chooses the +1 on this one for me. I like the quality of the picture more. If anyone sees some good info on this plz post when it comes available.
Size:
I could never own a phone as big as the Note 2. It just isn't pocket friendly and I don't want anything that big. It's great for those who want to mix a tablet with a phone and size isn't an issue, but for me it has to be pocket friendly and not pocket filling. I havn't seen dimensions of the Galaxy S4 on this so I can't decide until that information comes available so please post when available. But from reviews the HTC One looks like it's a good size in the hands.
Customization:
This one is big since It's very fun to do and worth doing. The battery is an issue for me atm because I wouldn't know what to do when it freezes unless there's a reset button that acts like a battery pull (then it's important to how I get to it. If it requires a pin then I have to think how often will I be able to take a pin out and reset it) . For me I don't have to replace batteries in my phone and technology in batteries is increasing and they should last 2 years unless your eating you battery up 2-3 times a day. Mine has always lasted me the day because when it's low I just limit myself.
The SD card isn't really a problem for me because I only own a 32GB version SD card and I will just use it as a USB if I were to get the HTC One or pop it in the Galaxy S4 if I were to get that one. 32GB is plenty for me as I have an IPod for music and don't need a ton of movies on my phone. One of the things the S4 is big about is the scrolling feature, but I'm not sure that is important to me. I also don't care for the new sense and it's focus being live feeds.
If anyone has any input on the categories please let me know. I usually get phones for my parents when I get one for myself too. So far I am leaning towards the HTC One which is why I came here. I just need to know more before I can decide.
Fairly sure comparison threads
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How can you decide between something that has not been released yet???
Against rules to compare, thread will be closed as soon as a moderator sees it
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Obviously the best thing to do is wait until the S4 announcement. Read reviews for both phones but don't take them as gospel. Read around for other impressions, watch some videos and if possible see if there are any demo units near you that you can try out.
Otherwise look at both specs and see whats more important for you?
Higher MP camera, removable large battery, MicroSD slot, RGB notification led, 5 inch OLED display? - Go for S4
Better build quality and looks, better low light camera, HTC Sense and Zoe, superior audio output, 4.7 SuperLCD 3 with higher PPI - Go for HTC One.
I have ordered the HTC One, but if the S4 announcement is good and meets what I want then I will definitely be looking to get that.
Yeah you have to wait 2 more days and the s4 will be announced, then you will know the official spec of the s4 which i doubt would be much better than HTC one
NiCk.JaY said:
Against rules to compare, thread will be closed as soon as a moderator sees it
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When did it become against rules to compare phones based upon one persons needs and that person asks the community for assistance. I know XDA has changed from what made XDA the place to be, but seriously can't see it being that bad.
toxicfumes22 said:
When did it become against rules to compare phones based upon one persons needs and that person asks the community for assistance. I know XDA has changed from what made XDA the place to be, but seriously can't see it being that bad.
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Sorry, but this fires up the brand bashers and instead of any real help, you'll get only fanboy trolling. This is why it is against the rules
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Please read the rules. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158159
As a comparison thread isn't device-specific by definition, it cant stay on a device forum.
You could make such a thread in Android General if you so wish.
Thread closed.