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.ducks/rolls. Hey - It's not nice to throw things.
Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, so before you cut my heart out and eat it with buttered toast, hear me out. I understand that pin messaging is on a closed network, I have searched the forums here, and numerous other places, and everyone agrees on the same thing.
Blackberry just released the 4.6 JDE publicly.
There is a website, Web2Pin, that provides free priority 1 messages to blackberries; and offers to design services around the BBM platform, but they charge an extraordinary amount of money and deal only with corporations.
My thoughts are that there has to be a secondary licensing system from blackberry, and that there has to be a way to design third party software, because it's obviously been done.
I'm not Java-wise, nor Android-wise, so my logic is most likely flawed, but I thought I'd put it out there and see what happens.
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.ducks/rolls. Hey - It's not nice to throw things.
Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, so before you cut my heart out and eat it with buttered toast, hear me out. I understand that pin messaging is on a closed network, I have searched the forums here, and numerous other places, and everyone agrees on the same thing.
Blackberry just released the 4.6 JDE publicly.
There is a website, Web2Pin, that provides free priority 1 messages to blackberries; and offers to design services around the BBM platform, but they charge an extraordinary amount of money and deal only with corporations.
My thoughts are that there has to be a secondary licensing system from blackberry, and that there has to be a way to design third party software, because it's obviously been done.
I'm not Java-wise, nor Android-wise, so my logic is most likely flawed, but I thought I'd put it out there and see what happens.
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I'm a long time blackberry user (since the 7100 series) I know this has been talked about several times...I know it has something to do with having a valid pin as thats how bbm communicates with the BIS servers. The program would have to clone a pin or something and be able to ping the server and get access I would think...BlackBerry development has reached several third parties but bbm is a core app and liscensed by RIM so I dont know if or how it could be done would be nice...The final insult to injury lol.
@Sunder74
That's what I had originally thought as well. But I also remember a few years ago when there was a little known, functioning application for WM5 that would do pin messaging (I had tested it while I was working Data Tech at a VZW Call Center).
There's also the up and coming Blackberry Application Suite. It currently only works with BES. I've a hunch that it's probably because they're going to sell pin numbers to corporations or bes server admins.
My other thought is, RIM would probably be more open to selling PIN licenses to individuals if there was a functional, stable piece of software (or base coding) for them to advertise alongside it.
Before the Blackberry App store, I remember going to a website that linked to a bunch of OTA installers grouped by category.
I don't just really want this to work. All the pieces seem to be there. Web2pin proves that the licenses can be purchased and used with bis, somehow. BBAS is about to roll out on WM. It's has to be possible.
I know! I'll sit down in my thinking chair and... Think. Think. Think.
I think the issue here is your all thinking inside the box. Android developers should design there own bbm styled app where android users would get AndroidPins and using the exact framework to create a competition and not a way to just communicate to bb people.
Android Messenger
ver 1.0
Android Pins: A9999-A999999999
Can send msgs threw data just like black berries
Would be free and you could make a donation or pay 1$ for the app
you register your number on the app and you recieve a android pin from the server
and basiclly figure out how to send pushes for when the person recieves and opens and responds to the message
the concept is there for android but i dont think people realize that black berry is like apple they try to close source there stuff which is ok but when android is open source you can litterally work on setting this app to work for communicating with apple iphones maybe blackberries too if you have the skill
just throwin around that idea
I do not know if you have ever noticed this, but bbm is RIM's largest ad campaign. There is very little chance that they would sell bbm PIN's.
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actually theres a app being developed for android its called Hello Messenger. Its already out for iOS and Blackberrys, it works just like bbm, with pin numbers and group chats. Follow them on twitter, @hellomessenger. Also theres a Android beta coming out soon, I signed up for it at http://hellomessenger.com/android/. Tell your friends.
Can't Google Talk be categorized here? Seeing as most Android users are using google accounts? Pingchat is coming to Android soon too http://pingchat.com/
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Can't Google Talk be categorized here? Seeing as most Android users are using google accounts? Pingchat is coming to Android soon too http://pingchat.com/
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Its already out. Search in market
there's also whatsapp
im waiting for WhatsApp it is out for iOS, BBOS, they are developing it for Android 2.1+, WM and S60. It uses your mobile number as your pin so to speak.
Whatsapp is already there. I have it installed on my Desire. You download the app and they have to let you logging, because its a preview, but fully working.
Y will search for the link
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As this is a very early beta, please let us know if you are able to install successfully Any questions or support go to [email protected] When sending us bugs, please use this route Chats > Menu Settings > About > Contact Us so that we may receive logs at the same time."
Send to them an e-mail saying that you have an android phone and that you want to test their soft and you will get an email similar to that one.
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I get a message saying you are not authorized in the beta. How do i get round that?
You have to send an email to the adress posted before. You have yo tell them that you want to try their soft as beta tester in your android phone.
After few hours/days you will get an email like the one i posted allowing you to use the soft.
I forgot yo say that You have to include in the email your full mobile number (with country code), the same that you use in the app. They use it to activate your app.
Me and my friends used blackberry messenger for the longest time. Mainly the groupchat feature because it was basically a live chat room for only your friends to share pics voice records and randomness. Unfortunately both pinchat and whatsapp do not supply a good group chat. pinchat does have a group chat but its garbage compared to the BBmsger group chat and whatsapp is just flawed. I am still in search for a good group chat program that is also cross platform. or at least on android.
Non-BB users underestimate how much people love BBM. If there's going to be a cross-platform alternative, it has to do everything that BBM does as close to the way BBM does it as possible. PingChat and WhatsApp come close, but they aren't going to win over BBM users with their subtle, but important deficiencies. I'm looking forwards to the Android release of Hello! to compare.
The biggest problem is that BBM comes installed on BlackBerry phones, and it's going to be VERY hard convincing BB users to install something else. Android and iPhone users are more happy to install new apps, but having everyone pick one app and stick with it is a challenge as well.
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Non-BB users underestimate how much people love BBM. If there's going to be a cross-platform alternative, it has to do everything that BBM does as close to the way BBM does it as possible. PingChat and WhatsApp come close, but they aren't going to win over BBM users with their subtle, but important deficiencies. I'm looking forwards to the Android release of Hello! to compare.
The biggest problem is that BBM comes installed on BlackBerry phones, and it's going to be VERY hard convincing BB users to install something else. Android and iPhone users are more happy to install new apps, but having everyone pick one app and stick with it is a challenge as well.
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Why not try ICQ, throwing a homage to the original IM. Its got native clients for most, if not all platforms. Its even usually listed as a quick install link on BB. Facebook chat is integrated (on desktop and Android versions, don't knpw about Java/Symbian and iOS). You get a number for anti-spaming (like a PIN if you REALLY want to emulate BB).
Yes, some would say "just use X IM app then." But its the only one with native support other than fring. And I find fring clumsy, plus does not have a desktop version.
I have BBM on my work BB. And I know that its superior in a lot of ways, but willing to bet that the reason a lot of features aren't being duplicated are likely legal, not technical, reasons. So I think this is a viable option until whatsapp or others have the kinks worked out (have yet to have a successful convo in 2 days!). Maybe with enough interest they can get the things we want added.
there is app called crosstalk
but i don't know when they will release it
it's written in the official site it will com at the end of aug
but tell now nothing!!!
check this site for more info
http://www.blueplanetapps.com/products/CrossTalk.aspx
2 quick questions..
Why doesn't google talk use the new google push?(would save battery)
Also can't some one use the new push service google made to power a chat program?
http://code.google.com/apis/feed/push/
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for any one interested.
"We're still coming down from the euphoria of introduction, but Dutch site Tweakers.net claims that Google's not entirely passing the torch to Honeycomb just yet -- beforehand, there's apparently another Gingerbread build in the cards. Having played with some sort of cobbled-together Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc with a 2.4 build, the site says that we can expect an incremental build that seems to feature miscellaneous stuff Google might not have had time to include in 2.3 -- random things like a new animation when deleting icons off the home screen, to much bigger features like visible video calling hooks. Unfortunately, said hooks didn't seem to be tied to any video calling-enabled Google Talk client, but considering how early this build seems to be, there's reason to believe they'll add it in by launch time. It's an open question when this is coming -- or to what devices -- and when you think about Eclair's progression from 2.0 to 2.1, it could happen sooner than you expect. "
Wow, it's like Deja Vu of last year
Eclair 2.1 - December 09
Eclair 2.1 - January 10
I could see the same thing happening:
Gingerbread 2.3 - December 10
Gingerbread 2.4 - January 11
I wonder what are the improvements though. I would predict the new Android music player or Gtalk Video calling
I think that is fake or something. It just doesn't add up. Sony has always been ages behind everyone else when it comes to android.... And wouldn't we be seeing 2.4 on nexus s before sony could even sniff the code for it?
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I think that is fake or something. It just doesn't add up. Sony has always been ages behind everyone else when it comes to android.... And wouldn't we be seeing 2.4 on nexus s before sony could even sniff the code for it?
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Luxferro said:
I think that is fake or something. It just doesn't add up. Sony has always been ages behind everyone else when it comes to android.... And wouldn't we be seeing 2.4 on nexus s before sony could even sniff the code for it?
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sony indeed does that.
but i think sony is trying to fix that,with the upcoming devices.
the psp phone now runs 2.3 instead of the 2.1(on first leaked photos)
and we all know the chart with web visited 2.4 devices.(supposed to be honeycomb rumor.though honeycomb is officially 3.0)
androidpolice
Question, i know you can edit the build.prop to say what ever version number you would like but would that carry over to usage stats like in that article?
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Question, i know you can edit the build.prop to say what ever version number you would like but would that carry over to usage stats like in that article?
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sure. any website or server that tracks hits to their site can log the user agent info from each device. any rooted user can make their user agent and/or build.prop look like any device and platform it wants. to the outside world (server) it doesnt know the difference.
It's like I'm a ****ing psychic or something.
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sure. any website or server that tracks hits to their site can log the user agent info from each device. any rooted user can make their user agent and/or build.prop look like any device and platform it wants. to the outside world (server) it doesnt know the difference.
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In that case, i say we all edit our build.prop to show version 5.0 and pay some websites a visit
Android 5.0 release date
Google has announced that its next developer conference - Google IO - will take place from May 15 to May 17 2013, a month earlier than 2012's June dates. Given that Google announced Android 4.1 Jelly Bean at 2012's IO conference, it's not unreasonable to expect to see Android 5.0 at this year's event On 31 January, a Google IO showing of Android 5.0 looked more likely when screengrabs of a Qualcomm roadmap were leaked, showing Android 5.0 as breaking cover between April and June 2013.
Android 5.0 phones
Rumours of a new Nexus handset started trickling in during the third quarter of 2012, as we reported on 1 October 2012. There was speculation that this phone would be sporting Key Lime Pie, but sources who spoke to AndroidAndMe correctly claimed that the handset, which turned out to be the Google Nexus 4 would be running Android Jelly Bean.
While the Nexus 4 didn't appear with a helping of Key Lime Pie, speculation that we reported on 21 January 2013 suggests that the Motorola X Phone is the Android 5.0-toting handset that will be revealed at Google IO. According to a post on the DroidForums website, the phone will also feature a virtually bezel-free, edge-to-edge, 5-inch display.
The same leaked Qualcomm documents cited above also made mention of a two new Snapdragon devices, one of which will be, unsurprisingly, a new Nexus phone.
Android 5.0 features
For 24 hours, it seemed as though the first kinda, sorta confirmed feature for Android 5.0 was a Google Now widget, which briefly appeared in a screenshot on the company's support forum before being taken down. As it was so hurriedly pulled, many people assumed it was slated for the big five-o and accidentally revealed early.
As it happened, the following day, on 13 February 2013, the Google Now widget rolled out to Jelly Bean.
So while we wait on Key Lime Pie features to be revealed and scour the web for more Android 5.0 news, TechRadar writer Gary Cutlack has been thinking about what we want to see in Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie. Hopefully the new mobile OS will feature some of these things...
Performance Profiles
It's bit of a fuss managing your mobile before bed time. Switching off the sound, turning off data, activating airplane mode and so on, so what Android 5.0 really needs is a simple way of managing performance, and therefore power use, automatically.
We've been given a taste of this with Blocking Mode in Samsung's Jelly Bean update on the Samsung Galaxy S3 and the Note 2 but we'd like to see the functionality expanded.
Something like a Gaming mode for max power delivery, an Overnight low-power state for slumbering on minimal power and maybe a Reading mode for no bothersome data connections and a super-low backlight.
Some hardware makers put their own little automated tools in, such as the excellent Smart Actions found within Motorola's RAZR interface, but it'd be great to see Google give us a simple way to manage states.
Another little power strip style widget for phone performance profiles would be an easy way to do it.
Better multiple device support
Google already does quite a good job of supporting serious Android nerds who own several phones and tablets, but there are some holes in its coverage that are rather frustrating.
Take the Videos app which manages your film downloads through the Play Store. Start watching a film on one Android device and you're limited to resuming your film session on that same unit, making it impossible to switch from phone to tablet mid-film.
You can switch between phone and web site players to resume watching, but surely Google ought to understand its fans often have a couple of phones and tabs on the go and fix this for Android Key Lime Pie?
Enhanced social network support
Android doesn't really do much for social network users out of the box, with most of the fancy social widgets and features coming from the hardware makers through their own custom skins.
Sony integrates Facebook brilliantly in its phones, and even LG makes a great social network aggregator widget that incorporates Facebook and Twitter - so why are there no cool aggregator apps as part of the standard Android setup?
Yes, Google does a great job of pushing Google+, but, no offence, there are many other more widely used networks that ought to be a little better "baked in" to Android.
Line-drawing keyboard options
Another area where the manufacturers have taken a big leap ahead of Google is in integrating clever alternate text entry options in their keyboards. HTC and Sony both offer their own takes on the Swype style of line-drawing text input, which is a nice option to have for getting your words onto a telephone. Get it into Android 5.0 and give us the choice.
A video chat app
How odd is it that Google's put a front-facing camera on the Nexus 7 and most hardware manufacturers do the same on their phones and tablets, yet most ship without any form of common video chat app?
You have to download Skype and hope it works, or find some other downloadable app solution. Why isn't there a Google Live See My Face Chat app of some sort as part of Android? Is it because we're too ugly? Is that what you're saying, Google?
Multi-select in the contacts
The Android contacts section is pretty useful, but it could be managed a little better. What if you have the idea of emailing or texting a handful of your friends? The way that's currently done is by emailing one, then adding the rest individually. Some sort of checkbox system that let users scroll through names and create a mailing list on the fly through the contacts listing in Android Key Lime Pie would make this much easier.
Cross-device SMS sync
If you're a constant SIM swapper with more than one phone on the go, chances are you've lost track of your text messages at some point. Google stores these on the phone rather than the SIM card, so it'd be nice if our texts could be either backed up to the SIM, the SD card, or beamed up to the magical invisible cloud of data, for easy and consistent access across multiple devices.
A "Never Update" option
This would annoy developers so is unlikely to happen, but it'd be nice if we could refuse app updates permanently in Android 5.0, just in case we'd rather stick with a current version of a tool than be forced to upgrade.
Sure, you can set apps to manual update and then just ignore the update prompt forever, but it'd be nice to know we can keep a favoured version of an app without accidentally updating it. Some of us are still using the beta Times app, for example, which has given free access for a year.
App preview/freebie codes
Something Apple's been doing for ages and ages is using a promo code system to distribute free or review versions of apps. It even makes doing little competitions to drum up publicity for apps much easier, so why's there no similar scheme for Android?
It might encourage developers to stop going down the ad-covered/freemium route if they could charge for an app but still give it away to friends and fans through a promo code system.
Final whinges and requests...
It's be nice to be able to sort the Settings screen by alphabetical order, too, or by most commonly used or personal preference, as Android's so packed with a huge list of options these days it's a big old list to scroll through and pick out what you need.
Plus could we have a percentage count for the battery in the Notifications bar for Android 5.0? Just so we know a bit more info than the vague emptying battery icon.
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Okay I wanted to drop this in about video chat. You say that Google doesn't have one right? Of I remember correctly Google talk has video.
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Okay I wanted to drop this in about video chat. You say that Google doesn't have one right? Of I remember correctly Google talk has video.
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This one is built in,you dont have to look for it and install it from 3rd party.
Diablo67 said:
This one is built in,you dont have to look for it and install it from 3rd party.
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Google talk has built in video chat, you don't have to install anything its preloaded on every android phone for as long as I can remember.
I like to break stuff!
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Google talk has built in video chat, you don't have to install anything its preloaded on every android phone for as long as I can remember.
I like to break stuff!
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Most of the gapps i ever installed didnt,but yes on a sense rom you can find it and maybe an official ICS or JB that is meant for a certain phone.So i should have reworded that.You are correct though.
Recently read this news intresting
RELATED: Facebook Says New Mobile Products Coming, but No Facebook Phone
Amazon has taken a similar route, creating its own version of Android software to run on its Kindle Fire. It places Amazon's services front and center.
Facebook has been rumored to be working on a phone of its own for a number of months now. However, while Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has said the company is focused on mobile and is a mobile company, he has denied the existence of plans for a "Facebook phone."
"We want to support an ecosystem where other apps can build on top of Facebook," Zuckberg said on an earnings call last year. "There are a lot of things you can build in other operating systems, as well, that aren't really taking, that aren't really like building out a whole phone, which wouldn't make much sense for us to do."
In the last number of months, Facebook has released a slew of new mobile products, including its Poke app and additions to its Messenger app, which added free calling.
ABC News will have the latest on Facebook's Android announcement on April 4.[/UOTE]
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This is not device specific, so off-topic.
Preview images: Android N preview images will be available today for the Nexus 6, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, General Mobile 4G (Android One), Nexus Player, Nexus 9, and Pixel C.
Android Beta Program: Google is announcing a new Android Beta Program to make it easier to try new versions of Android on your development devices via OTA(http://g.co/androidbeta). (Update: This site is broken until later today, per Google.)
Multi-window: Android N finally adds support for split-screen multitasking ("multi-window"), which OK very cool, but! The new multi-window API also allows for picture-in-picture video, which I think is way more exciting. Persistent mini-YouTube window anywhere in the OS? Yes please. But it's not clear if that's for all devices or only Android TV - Google cites TV as an example.
Direct reply notifications: You know the handy direct reply features of Hangouts and Messenger in the notification bar? There's now a whole API so any app can add a standardized direct reply feature. This is potentially huge - we'll have to see how developers take advantage of it.
Bundled notification handling: Ever get tired of Gmail or Hangouts eventually just giving you an "X new notifications" or a bulk list of items when things stack up that you have to basically address by going into the app? Android N introduces bundled notifications - notifications that contain multiple items can be expanded to show all items in the list, allowing you to take actions on each item (for example, deleting 3 emails in a list of 10) individually, instead of having to act on them as a group or go into the app itself. Together with direct reply, Android's notification bar is about to get a hell of a lot more powerful.
Improved Doze mode: Google hasn't specified how exactly (yet), but Doze mode is getting even better at sipping power when your phone's display is turned off. Details on how much less power will be consumed on average weren't provided, as I'm guessing Google is still fine-tuning Doze's new improvements. Hopefully we'll know more when N leaves the preview stage.
Java 8: Android now supports Java 8 language features through the Jack compiler we detailed over a year ago.
$150 off Pixel C for developers: As a way to encourage developers to test out N on tablets, Google is offering $150 off the Pixel C for devs here.
A "final" N release will happen this summer: Hiroshi Lockheimer says Android N will be shipping in "final release" form to device makers "this summer." That means OTAs for existing devices could come any time between June 21st and September 21st - but I suspect we'll learn more about that at Google I/O. At least, hopefully.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...day-adds-multi-window-improved-doze-and-more/
I'm SOOO hyped right now..
Its released!
Its just for Nexus devices but heres the link of images:
http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html#top
i'm the first one to clear out that android M is still missing from mi G920I ? great !
so , here it is : FUKRAGE SANSUN GIVEMEI MARSHMALLOW !!!
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i'm the first one to clear out that android M is still missing from mi G920I ? great !
so , here it is : FUKRAGE SANSUN GIVEMEI MARSHMALLOW !!!
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Almost everybody is way behind
my friends with xperias and others also didn't received.
Motorola deserves applauses for they super fast updates.
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i'm the first one to clear out that android M is still missing from mi G920I ? great !
so , here it is : FUKRAGE SANSUN GIVEMEI MARSHMALLOW !!!
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g920i user here too... This is the last time i buy a samsung flagship device. Not one release. Meanwhile 920f users are complaining because their specific CSC hasn't been released even though they've had MM for ages lol.
Note 5 in Korea getting second round of updates.. A few SM-G920F have also started to get the second round of updates. Then SM-G920I getting the MM in Q3 2016.
I wonder if devs successfuly make working AOSP source from cyanogenmod, will they be able to easily port N preview to S6?
Holy molly. I think I just came up with the best theory on what N's name will be. Heard of Nerds? Nerds Candy. These candies are made by Nestle. What version of Android that has a Nestle name? KitKat. If you press a button in Kitkat, the highlight action is square. In Lollipop and Marshmallow, circle. Android N cannot be Nutella. It has no form. Nerds on the other hand is kind of circle. N still has the circle highlight action. Check the pictures below. Nerds candies and N's wallpaper. Coincidence? Just a crazy theory on my side. xD
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Holy molly. I think I just came up with the best theory on what N's name will be. Heard of Nerds? Nerds Candy. These candies are made by Nestle. What version of Android that has a Nestle name? KitKat. If you press a button in Kitkat, the highlight action is square. In Lollipop and Marshmallow, circle. Android N cannot be Nutella. It has no form. Nerds on the other hand is kind of circle. N still has the circle highlight action. Check the pictures below. Nerds candies and N's wallpaper. Coincidence? Just a crazy theory on my side. xD
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This is an awesome theory mate! :good:
But I think Nerds candy is a bit big for OS name, or maybe not. They can drop candy and say "Android for NERDS"
oh thanks..this is i am waiting for .
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Holy molly. I think I just came up with the best theory on what N's name will be. Heard of Nerds? Nerds Candy. These candies are made by Nestle. What version of Android that has a Nestle name? KitKat. If you press a button in Kitkat, the highlight action is square. In Lollipop and Marshmallow, circle. Android N cannot be Nutella. It has no form. Nerds on the other hand is kind of circle. N still has the circle highlight action. Check the pictures below. Nerds candies and N's wallpaper. Coincidence? Just a crazy theory on my side. xD
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Android N: What’s it going to be called? | Pocket Now
And here we are just finally starting to get 6.0, pathetic. That fragmentation thoughhhhhh