for any one interested.
"We're still coming down from the euphoria of introduction, but Dutch site Tweakers.net claims that Google's not entirely passing the torch to Honeycomb just yet -- beforehand, there's apparently another Gingerbread build in the cards. Having played with some sort of cobbled-together Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc with a 2.4 build, the site says that we can expect an incremental build that seems to feature miscellaneous stuff Google might not have had time to include in 2.3 -- random things like a new animation when deleting icons off the home screen, to much bigger features like visible video calling hooks. Unfortunately, said hooks didn't seem to be tied to any video calling-enabled Google Talk client, but considering how early this build seems to be, there's reason to believe they'll add it in by launch time. It's an open question when this is coming -- or to what devices -- and when you think about Eclair's progression from 2.0 to 2.1, it could happen sooner than you expect. "
Wow, it's like Deja Vu of last year
Eclair 2.1 - December 09
Eclair 2.1 - January 10
I could see the same thing happening:
Gingerbread 2.3 - December 10
Gingerbread 2.4 - January 11
I wonder what are the improvements though. I would predict the new Android music player or Gtalk Video calling
I think that is fake or something. It just doesn't add up. Sony has always been ages behind everyone else when it comes to android.... And wouldn't we be seeing 2.4 on nexus s before sony could even sniff the code for it?
Luxferro said:
I think that is fake or something. It just doesn't add up. Sony has always been ages behind everyone else when it comes to android.... And wouldn't we be seeing 2.4 on nexus s before sony could even sniff the code for it?
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Maybe it is fake cuz really anyone could make their phone say anything
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Luxferro said:
I think that is fake or something. It just doesn't add up. Sony has always been ages behind everyone else when it comes to android.... And wouldn't we be seeing 2.4 on nexus s before sony could even sniff the code for it?
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sony indeed does that.
but i think sony is trying to fix that,with the upcoming devices.
the psp phone now runs 2.3 instead of the 2.1(on first leaked photos)
and we all know the chart with web visited 2.4 devices.(supposed to be honeycomb rumor.though honeycomb is officially 3.0)
androidpolice
Question, i know you can edit the build.prop to say what ever version number you would like but would that carry over to usage stats like in that article?
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Question, i know you can edit the build.prop to say what ever version number you would like but would that carry over to usage stats like in that article?
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sure. any website or server that tracks hits to their site can log the user agent info from each device. any rooted user can make their user agent and/or build.prop look like any device and platform it wants. to the outside world (server) it doesnt know the difference.
It's like I'm a ****ing psychic or something.
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sure. any website or server that tracks hits to their site can log the user agent info from each device. any rooted user can make their user agent and/or build.prop look like any device and platform it wants. to the outside world (server) it doesnt know the difference.
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In that case, i say we all edit our build.prop to show version 5.0 and pay some websites a visit
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The app titled: "Scriptures (beta)" shows up in my G1's market, but does not in my Nexus' market.
Any ideas what's going on?
Did you do any of the following to your Nexus One:
1. Unlocked bootloader?
2. Enable root?
If so, "Scriptures (Beta)" is a *protected* Android application and will not show up.
If not, then it's a OS "support" version issue.
Cheers,
Kermee
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Did you do any of the following to your Nexus One:
1. Unlocked bootloader?
2. Enable root?
If so, "Scriptures (Beta)" is a *protected* Android application and will not show up.
If not, then it's a OS "support" version issue.
Cheers,
Kermee
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My new N1 is not unlocked/rooted, but my old G1 *is*. But it's the G1 that sees the app fine, and the new N1 does not.
Must be an OS support issue.
I downloaded the app directly from the author's website and it works fine.
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My new N1 is not unlocked/rooted, but my old G1 *is*. But it's the G1 that sees the app fine, and the new N1 does not.
Must be an OS support issue.
I downloaded the app directly from the author's website and it works fine.
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Yup. If that's the case, the author needs to fix it and update it on Android Market.
It's annoying for us developers and the damn manifest and API target/limits when "new" stuff comes out... *Sigh*
Anyrate, good deal you got around it!
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Kermee
application compatibility
Your phone is listed as a 2.1 device in the market, and if the apps don't specify compatibility (they introduced a compatibility layer in 2.0.1) then they won't show up since they won't work anyway (well, they might, but the general assumption is that they won't)
I guess that explains why AppManager Pro isn't showing up for me on my N1. Annoying. I love that app.
This explains why, when people were talking about Nexus One Torch and I decided to see what it was, my G1 couldn't see it. Now I have a Nexus I can (and it's good )
There are some errors I think, because I want Bonsai Blast which I think I remember was demo'd by the Bonsai Blast google developer for either droid or 2.1. I think it was a demo for the new resolution, so I know it can't be that, and I don't think a google Dev would forget to update his extremely popular app.
Let the application owners know!
When the moto droid came out, I emailed a few developers and some even came out with an update the very next day!
syntrix said:
Let the application owners know!
When the moto droid came out, I emailed a few developers and some even came out with an update the very next day!
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can somebody e-mail the developer of Bonsai blast then please? or tell me his/her/their name(s)/email?
If we take the conservative assumption that it must be listed on the Google's own market place before it would work on Nexus, how many applications are available at the moment? Is there good statistics on that yet?
Perhaps most of them would work on Nexus one anyway? Love to hear from people who have tried using the applications written for the older OS version and see if they are generally still compatible. It's hard to imagine how a version upgrade would upset the older applications too much.
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If we take the conservative assumption that it must be listed on the Google's own market place before it would work on Nexus, how many applications are available at the moment? Is there good statistics on that yet?
Perhaps most of them would work on Nexus one anyway? Love to hear from people who have tried using the applications written for the older OS version and see if they are generally still compatible. It's hard to imagine how a version upgrade would upset the older applications too much.
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Really the only set-back is the resolution. All of the hardware has exponentially increased. All of Androids apps are written in java, which is pretty standard and should have no problem running on all android platforms.
The only time it should be disallowed would be if a game were to be written for the N1 specs (which cannot run on the G1), and therefore not shown in the market for the G1.
I suppose developers don't want their games to look too pixelated on the N1 until they update the resolutions. It's a waiting game now, since there are absolutely NO games available unless you want to play solitaire.
Or you could email the devs to death requesting an update...
in google i/o. they demonstrated that can be installed on pc through a webpage. i just got my nexus one upgraded to 2.2, and wondering if the website is somewhere out there? If it exist, can someone give me a link?
thanks
what was demonstrated was not from FroYo, but from Gingerbread which will be out on Q4 2010.
Not sure it was demonstrated on either really, given the cloud to device messaging capabilities of Froyo, I can see it working.
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what was demonstrated was not from FroYo, but from Gingerbread which will be out on Q4 2010.
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Might be wrong, but I think they never say that in the keynote. They show it right after bug reporting, which supposedly is already a feature of Froyo. Maybe they just need to update the webpage?
He was correct. It's a feature for Gingerbread (2.3) update which will have to wait for. Same for the new music player that was shown as well, seems like he was running a 2.3 build but just showing the 2.2 features.
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It works fine.
Use:
Code:
http://chrometophone.appspot.com/send?title=Installing&url=http://url-to-some.apk
for example
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http://chrometophone.appspot.com/send?title=Installing&url=http://android-sms.googlecode.com/files/SmsBackup-1.1.1.apk
As long as you have
a) 'Unknown sources' enabled in your settings
b) logged into gmail first in your browser
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It works fine.
Use:
http://chrometophone.appspot.com/send?title=Installing&url=http://url-to-some.apk
for example
http://chrometophone.appspot.com/send?title=Installing&url=http://android-sms.googlecode.com/files/SmsBackup-1.1.1.apk
As long as you have
a) 'Unknown sources' enabled in your settings
b) logged into gmail first in your browser
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That's not the official way nor the way he mentioned though. There isn't an online market to browse.
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froyo is not even officially released.
so i guess you have to wait for it. i believe it is for froyo not gingerbread.
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He was correct. It's a feature for Gingerbread (2.3) update which will have to wait for. Same for the new music player that was shown as well, seems like he was running a 2.3 build but just showing the 2.2 features.
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Its not a feature for Gingerbread, no further changes would be needed to implement it now. In the keynote it was "beyond Froyo", they might well wait until Gingerbread to release the website, but there is not requirement to
This is a function of the marketplace application. It'll go through the cloud server that will be in place in 2.2.
It's not a gingerbread feature.
He says beyond froyo, it sounds to me like he is saying " lets see what else we have got for you"
NEVER ONCE does he mention gingerbread, and thats the kinda stuff that starts rumors
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He was correct. It's a feature for Gingerbread (2.3) update which will have to wait for. Same for the new music player that was shown as well, seems like he was running a 2.3 build but just showing the 2.2 features.
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its definitely not a feature of gingerbread but i didn't see the new music player, did it look alot better then the one we have now?
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its definitely not a feature of gingerbread but i didn't see the new music player, did it look alot better then the one we have now?
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Let's cross our fingers so that the new music player comes with the final Froyo build.
The player from the IO keynote part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8unC9bA4O8&feature=related#t=4m18s
1) OTA push intents are part of Froyo so all the features demoed are already possible [thanks for the links ScaredyCat]
2) The new Market website was presented as "beyond Froyo" [but not explicitly Gingerbread]
3) Simplify Media, the company that Google bought to make the music streaming software said in their blog on March 12 that they would support existing customers for 3 months. I'm guessing they are going to cut off support at the same time that they launch the new software which puts us right between Froyo and Gingerbread. I'm guessing that they will launch the new Market at the same time as streaming so if I had to bet, I would put my money on late June. That leaves plenty of development time and it leaves Google an extra punch to counter the inevitable iPhone 4 storm.
The market website and market application are pretty independent of the OS, so all those updates dont' have to rely on OS updates.
The simplify media dates would put us at...two weeks from now, around the same time froyo two is "officially" out.
I was just wondering if anyone had come across the Smart Wi-Fi app from Kineto that T-Mobile is purportedly testing now. Is there a more concrete timetable for release known. Also, I have heard conflicting information about the software requirements. I have read somewhere that it would run on any Android device with v. 1.5 or greater, but I have also heard that it requires special APIs that it needs to hook into so does that mean that the carrier would have to issue new builds of Android for each device with the APIs built in or did Google bake the APIs into Eclair or Froyo?
Anyone? I'm only gonna bump this once and if no one answers I'll take that as a confirmation that no one knows.
Ill throw down a bump on this.
Looks like they have officially put out the info. Now it is just waiting on T-mobile to push it out to users.
Funny thing is they say it is for Froyo, but Eclair is being showed on Vibrant as a demo.
http://www.kineto.com/press_releases/Kineto_Smart_Wifi_Android2_Froyo.php
Im kinda curious what this means exactly.
The press release doesn't seem to imply that this will be for one network or country, nor did the article that I read here.
Hopefully this will turn into something that'll be for any droid device. As someone who lives in a blackspot I would LOVE this kinda service. Here's hoping it gets into a release candidate soon. Wish they had opened it up to everyone rather than keeping in closed development tho, but oh well.
This would be a seriously amazing service and really boost android's rockingness.
I'd love to see if you could hack this to get true phone capability to wifi only tablets somehow *ponders*
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/01/android-30-platform-preview-and-updated.html
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http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/01/android-30-platform-preview-and-updated.html
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As of now this is all I would be interested in from 3.0 . Hope cyanogen can pull this into CM7
New types of connectivity: New APIs for Bluetooth A2DP and HSP let applications offer audio streaming and headset control. Support for Bluetooth insecure socket connection lets applications connect to simple devices that may not have a user interface.
Yep seems to be a preview SDK for 3.0 with a final SDK in coming weeks. Simply prep for Honeycomb tablets.
"A built-in GL renderer lets developers request hardware-acceleration of common 2D rendering operations in their apps, across the entire app or only in specific activities or views."
So it seems that 2.3 isn't hardware accelerated...now I want 3.0 on my desire . But here's another quote:
"Android 3.0 (Honeycomb) is a new version of the Android platform that is designed from the ground up for devices with larger screen sizes, particularly tablets."
So Honycomb isn't for phones? I really hope Google can clear things up a bit because I remember Andy rubben saying the Honycomb can adapt to phones & tablets.
Any thoughts or theories?
Weren't there enough thoughts and theories about it?
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Weren't there enough thoughts and theories about it?
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Yes there was a lot of theories, but now we have something official to discuss rather than hearsay. Anyway, don't discuss if you don't feel like it.
How about the 2.4? really don't know what Goolge is thinking about. Just want a stable version and improve it by other works. Not so much version and make people confuse. It seems that N1 may not flash it~~
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Yes there was a lot of theories, but now we have something official to discuss rather than hearsay. Anyway, don't discuss if you don't feel like it.
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Looking at the new preview SDK, it only big screens by default. And reading through the platform highlights really only mentions tablets. However, a couple Android devs have already stated its for all platforms. Seems to me that they don't want to reveal that its for phones yet, so that they can advertise that it is made for tablets.
The main criticism the iPad got was being a giant iPhone. I think they want to avoid that by having people believe that it isn't the same Android that is on phones.
I guess when they release the full SDK we'll know for sure.
Interesting...the beat goes on!
Honeycomb is also for phones, but we all knew that right?
From the documentation:
Publishing your app for tablet-type devices only
Additionally, you should decide whether your application is for only tablet devices (specifically, xlarge devices) or for devices of all sizes that may run Android 3.0.
If your application is only for tablets (xlarge screens; not for mobile devices/phones), then you should include the <supports-screens> element in your manifest with all sizes except for xlarge declared false.
With this declaration, you indicate that your application does not support any screen size except extra large. External services such as Android Market may use this to filter your application from devices that do not have an extra large screen.
Otherwise, if you want your application to be available to both small devices (phones) and large devices (tablets), do not include the <supports-screens> element.
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Well, all clear then! The future of Android looks neat!
Nice find
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Honeycomb is also for phones, but we all knew that right?
From the documentation:
Well, all clear then! The future of Android looks neat!
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Hmmmm...good find! Android is getting really interesting visually, which is IMO a milestone it needed to reach a while ago
Anyway, can't wait for an alpha sdk image on my phone to play with if that's possible currently
Forget Ginga and Honeycomb. Havent you all hear of whats ahead of honeycomb? Its called " Chicken Soup". Yup, ik... Weird name. But its only for dual core over 2ghz. So phones arent ready. Its suppose to be completely holographic 3d without glasses. Pretty neat. And requires horsepower of xbox 360 or more. Anything less and its a no go. Its suppose to be the next gen OS and quantum leap from even honeycomb. Remember the name "chicken soup". Its comming next year by christman. Cant wait!
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Forget Ginga and Honeycomb. Havent you all hear of whats ahead of honeycomb? Its called " Chicken Soup". Yup, ik... Weird name. But its only for dual core over 2ghz. So phones arent ready. Its suppose to be completely holographic 3d without glasses. Pretty neat. And requires horsepower of xbox 360 or more. Anything less and its a no go. Its suppose to be the next gen OS and quantum leap from even honeycomb. Remember the name "chicken soup". Its comming next year by christman. Cant wait!
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This was a horrible and incredibly illogical troll/joke attempt
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Honeycomb is also for phones, but we all knew that right?
From the documentation:
Well, all clear then! The future of Android looks neat!
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It actually does not mean much.
Android application could always define different layouts for different resolutions, orientations, themes or screen sizes. So, it is just one additional form factor, one of many. And the way to say to the market which layouts are supported and which are not.
It also does not mean, that "honeycomb for phones" would be the same as honeycomb for tablets "just smaller".
They only said, that phone version will move in similar direction. Which can mean pretty much anything.
In fact I expect, that honeycomb for phones will be seriously different, since a lot of new honeycomb for tablets features on smaller screens do not make any sense.
My theory:
Honeycomb is currently, Tablets only.
We are going to see a division in Android for Phones and Android for Tablets.
Tablets will be at 3.0 starting off.
Phones are currently at 2.3, and will continue 2.4 being Gingerbread as well with updates that should have happened with 2.3. (Like 2.0 and 2.1 being Eclair)
Once phones have the ability to run such a resource hungry operating system(3.0) the Phone and Tablet versions of Android will merge into one.
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My theory:
Honeycomb is currently, Tablets only.
We are going to see a division in Android for Phones and Android for Tablets.
Tablets will be at 3.0 starting off.
Phones are currently at 2.3, and will continue 2.4 being Gingerbread as well with updates that should have happened with 2.3. (Like 2.0 and 2.1 being Eclair)
Once phones have the ability to run such a resource hungry operating system(3.0) the Phone and Tablet versions of Android will merge into one.
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But the hardware of the new tablets is the same Tegra 2 of the new phones, so I think the problem is the adaptability of the OS to smaller screens in a way it is usable for our fingers.
Anyone here used the leaked "honeycomb music player"? It has all the new characteristics we saw on the xoom tablet but worked very nice on my Nexus One with 2.2.1.
I think when honeycomb's source code come out we will get working builds.
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I heard Ice cream is going to be only for refrigerators. You know cause of the thermostat API that very few phones support.
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But the hardware of the new tablets is the same Tegra 2 of the new phones, so I think the problem is the adaptability of the OS to smaller screens in a way it is usable for our fingers.
Anyone here used the leaked "honeycomb music player"? It has all the new characteristics we saw on the xoom tablet but worked very nice on my Nexus One with 2.2.1.
I think when honeycomb's source code come out we will get working builds.
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I believe you are absolutely right. I tried making an AVD for Honeycomb with the screen resolution of my Nexus One. The launcher force closed continuously but you could see that the standard pull down notification bar was there. So I take that to mean that Honeycomb is for all devices and just changes its layout based on screen size.
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A little bit of context: The text I copy-pasted is in a section called "Upgrade or Develop a New App for Tablets and Similar Devices"
In it, is says:
If you want to develop something truly for tablet-type devices running Android 3.0, then you need to use new APIs available in Android 3.0. This section introduces some of the new features that you should use.
The first thing to do when you create a project with the Android 3.0 preview is set the <uses-sdk> element to use "Honeycomb" for the android:minSdkVersion.
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What does this mean? it means this app won't work on anything other lower than honeycomb. So, the "choose your screen size" text I pasted yesterday applies to honeycomb-only apps.
The documentation in the SDK is a nice read actually
Does anyone know whether the update the SD card will be similar to the flash update, that is fix only one bug/feature or is it supposed to be more comprehensive kinda of like a service pack for windows ( address stability, add some moderate features, etc).
Given the wait I am hoping for the latter.
Also is the reason that there aren't more apps optomized for honeycomb is that source code has not been released? If that is the case why have some apps like quickoffice HD been able to be optimized for homeycomb?
Pardon my ignorance I just became an android convert (phone-samsung epic 4g and tablet)
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Does anyone know whether the update the SD card will be similar to the flash update, that is fix only one bug/feature or is it supposed to be more comprehensive kinda of like a service pack for windows ( address stability, add some moderate features, etc).
Given the wait I am hoping for the latter.
Also is the reason that there aren't more apps optomized for honeycomb is that source code has not been released? If that is the case why have some apps like quickoffice HD been able to be optimized for homeycomb?
Pardon my ignorance I just became an android convert (phone-samsung epic 4g and tablet)
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No one knows how the update is going to be. The honeycomb SDK is what they use to build apps, and it has been out for a while now.
although some devs seem to be waiting for the source code still
I expect it will be a fairly big update, but not like 'a service pack' with LOADS of new features, probably just more a lot more bug fixes than just one SD fix...
I also imagine that some devs may be waiting a bit to see if tablet-specific apps catch on - and/or some may develop a new 'tablet edition' app rather than just tweaking old ones to run on Honeycomb... ?
Personally I am more disappointed with the bigger companies like BBC that haven't got iPlayer running on honeycomb!
What's weird is when I talk to some of the devs of paid apps they usually say want to do a honeycomb optimized version but need the source code. As was mentioned above the sdk was released in january so I don't really understand what they mean waiting for the source code.
Cnn does a fully optimized version, its pretty good. I know its not the bbc, but the cnn international isn't bad [that's what I watch when I visit my family in peru]. More similar to bbc style of reporting.
Well here's hoping for a honeycomb update so and more apps!
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although some devs seem to be waiting for the source code still
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Personally I am more disappointed with the bigger companies like BBC that haven't got iPlayer running on honeycomb!
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I know its off topic, but you don't need an app for bbc/Iplayer. Just watch it in the browser, isn't that the great thing about a xooom, you don't need lots of apps.....
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I know its off topic, but you don't need an app for bbc/Iplayer. Just watch it in the browser, isn't that the great thing about a xooom, you don't need lots of apps.....
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This is true - but it is nice to have optimised HC apps like YouTube - looks great in the app