in google i/o. they demonstrated that can be installed on pc through a webpage. i just got my nexus one upgraded to 2.2, and wondering if the website is somewhere out there? If it exist, can someone give me a link?
thanks
what was demonstrated was not from FroYo, but from Gingerbread which will be out on Q4 2010.
Not sure it was demonstrated on either really, given the cloud to device messaging capabilities of Froyo, I can see it working.
eli1981 said:
what was demonstrated was not from FroYo, but from Gingerbread which will be out on Q4 2010.
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Might be wrong, but I think they never say that in the keynote. They show it right after bug reporting, which supposedly is already a feature of Froyo. Maybe they just need to update the webpage?
He was correct. It's a feature for Gingerbread (2.3) update which will have to wait for. Same for the new music player that was shown as well, seems like he was running a 2.3 build but just showing the 2.2 features.
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It works fine.
Use:
Code:
http://chrometophone.appspot.com/send?title=Installing&url=http://url-to-some.apk
for example
Code:
http://chrometophone.appspot.com/send?title=Installing&url=http://android-sms.googlecode.com/files/SmsBackup-1.1.1.apk
As long as you have
a) 'Unknown sources' enabled in your settings
b) logged into gmail first in your browser
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It works fine.
Use:
http://chrometophone.appspot.com/send?title=Installing&url=http://url-to-some.apk
for example
http://chrometophone.appspot.com/send?title=Installing&url=http://android-sms.googlecode.com/files/SmsBackup-1.1.1.apk
As long as you have
a) 'Unknown sources' enabled in your settings
b) logged into gmail first in your browser
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That's not the official way nor the way he mentioned though. There isn't an online market to browse.
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froyo is not even officially released.
so i guess you have to wait for it. i believe it is for froyo not gingerbread.
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He was correct. It's a feature for Gingerbread (2.3) update which will have to wait for. Same for the new music player that was shown as well, seems like he was running a 2.3 build but just showing the 2.2 features.
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Its not a feature for Gingerbread, no further changes would be needed to implement it now. In the keynote it was "beyond Froyo", they might well wait until Gingerbread to release the website, but there is not requirement to
This is a function of the marketplace application. It'll go through the cloud server that will be in place in 2.2.
It's not a gingerbread feature.
He says beyond froyo, it sounds to me like he is saying " lets see what else we have got for you"
NEVER ONCE does he mention gingerbread, and thats the kinda stuff that starts rumors
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He was correct. It's a feature for Gingerbread (2.3) update which will have to wait for. Same for the new music player that was shown as well, seems like he was running a 2.3 build but just showing the 2.2 features.
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its definitely not a feature of gingerbread but i didn't see the new music player, did it look alot better then the one we have now?
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its definitely not a feature of gingerbread but i didn't see the new music player, did it look alot better then the one we have now?
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Let's cross our fingers so that the new music player comes with the final Froyo build.
The player from the IO keynote part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8unC9bA4O8&feature=related#t=4m18s
1) OTA push intents are part of Froyo so all the features demoed are already possible [thanks for the links ScaredyCat]
2) The new Market website was presented as "beyond Froyo" [but not explicitly Gingerbread]
3) Simplify Media, the company that Google bought to make the music streaming software said in their blog on March 12 that they would support existing customers for 3 months. I'm guessing they are going to cut off support at the same time that they launch the new software which puts us right between Froyo and Gingerbread. I'm guessing that they will launch the new Market at the same time as streaming so if I had to bet, I would put my money on late June. That leaves plenty of development time and it leaves Google an extra punch to counter the inevitable iPhone 4 storm.
The market website and market application are pretty independent of the OS, so all those updates dont' have to rely on OS updates.
The simplify media dates would put us at...two weeks from now, around the same time froyo two is "officially" out.
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The app titled: "Scriptures (beta)" shows up in my G1's market, but does not in my Nexus' market.
Any ideas what's going on?
Did you do any of the following to your Nexus One:
1. Unlocked bootloader?
2. Enable root?
If so, "Scriptures (Beta)" is a *protected* Android application and will not show up.
If not, then it's a OS "support" version issue.
Cheers,
Kermee
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Did you do any of the following to your Nexus One:
1. Unlocked bootloader?
2. Enable root?
If so, "Scriptures (Beta)" is a *protected* Android application and will not show up.
If not, then it's a OS "support" version issue.
Cheers,
Kermee
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My new N1 is not unlocked/rooted, but my old G1 *is*. But it's the G1 that sees the app fine, and the new N1 does not.
Must be an OS support issue.
I downloaded the app directly from the author's website and it works fine.
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My new N1 is not unlocked/rooted, but my old G1 *is*. But it's the G1 that sees the app fine, and the new N1 does not.
Must be an OS support issue.
I downloaded the app directly from the author's website and it works fine.
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Yup. If that's the case, the author needs to fix it and update it on Android Market.
It's annoying for us developers and the damn manifest and API target/limits when "new" stuff comes out... *Sigh*
Anyrate, good deal you got around it!
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Kermee
application compatibility
Your phone is listed as a 2.1 device in the market, and if the apps don't specify compatibility (they introduced a compatibility layer in 2.0.1) then they won't show up since they won't work anyway (well, they might, but the general assumption is that they won't)
I guess that explains why AppManager Pro isn't showing up for me on my N1. Annoying. I love that app.
This explains why, when people were talking about Nexus One Torch and I decided to see what it was, my G1 couldn't see it. Now I have a Nexus I can (and it's good )
There are some errors I think, because I want Bonsai Blast which I think I remember was demo'd by the Bonsai Blast google developer for either droid or 2.1. I think it was a demo for the new resolution, so I know it can't be that, and I don't think a google Dev would forget to update his extremely popular app.
Let the application owners know!
When the moto droid came out, I emailed a few developers and some even came out with an update the very next day!
syntrix said:
Let the application owners know!
When the moto droid came out, I emailed a few developers and some even came out with an update the very next day!
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can somebody e-mail the developer of Bonsai blast then please? or tell me his/her/their name(s)/email?
If we take the conservative assumption that it must be listed on the Google's own market place before it would work on Nexus, how many applications are available at the moment? Is there good statistics on that yet?
Perhaps most of them would work on Nexus one anyway? Love to hear from people who have tried using the applications written for the older OS version and see if they are generally still compatible. It's hard to imagine how a version upgrade would upset the older applications too much.
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If we take the conservative assumption that it must be listed on the Google's own market place before it would work on Nexus, how many applications are available at the moment? Is there good statistics on that yet?
Perhaps most of them would work on Nexus one anyway? Love to hear from people who have tried using the applications written for the older OS version and see if they are generally still compatible. It's hard to imagine how a version upgrade would upset the older applications too much.
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Really the only set-back is the resolution. All of the hardware has exponentially increased. All of Androids apps are written in java, which is pretty standard and should have no problem running on all android platforms.
The only time it should be disallowed would be if a game were to be written for the N1 specs (which cannot run on the G1), and therefore not shown in the market for the G1.
I suppose developers don't want their games to look too pixelated on the N1 until they update the resolutions. It's a waiting game now, since there are absolutely NO games available unless you want to play solitaire.
Or you could email the devs to death requesting an update...
Do you think that this froyo is the real froyo?
There area lot or difference with the keynote one... musica interface, mail interface, a2sd, Chrome connetion, market, and so other...
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APPS2SD is implemented, as is Chrome2Phone.
Not sure what you mean by mail interface though, but Gmail has been improved.
FRF50 probably isn't the final release though.
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Like Rusty said, no this probably isn't the final release but it's damn close. As discussed in other threads, a lot of that stuff is from the "beyond Froyo" part of the keynote. For example there is speculation that the Music app is from a early Gingerbread build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686469.
Apps to SD is implemented completely, it's just up to developers to add a couple lines of code. The OS won't move apps until that API is implemented so it knows, if it can or should be moved.
The cloud to device API is also fully functional. There are working Chrome and Firefox extensions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686570
The new desktop Market with music purchases will likely come at the same time as the streaming music software, which according to Simplify Media's blog, should be within three months, I'm guessing around the time of the iPhone launch.
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Like Rusty said, no this probably isn't the final release but it's damn close. As discussed in other threads, a lot of that stuff is from the "beyond Froyo" part of the keynote. For example there is speculation that the Music app is from a early Gingerbread build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686469.
Apps to SD is implemented completely, it's just up to developers to add a couple lines of code. The OS won't move apps until that API is implemented so it knows, if it can or should be moved.
The cloud to device API is also fully functional. There are working Chrome and Firefox extensions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686570
The new desktop Market with music purchases will likely come at the same time as the streaming music software, which according to Simplify Media's blog, should be within three months, I'm guessing around the time of the iPhone launch.
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Indeed, I think that there are going to be minor updates to froyo coming soon. Especially considering the simplify media isn't available yet. Maybe that will just be software and not require an app... i dunno. But Andy Rubin did say that the simplify media technology "is in froyo." So, there you go. Take it for what its worth.
Read the interview here
for any one interested.
"We're still coming down from the euphoria of introduction, but Dutch site Tweakers.net claims that Google's not entirely passing the torch to Honeycomb just yet -- beforehand, there's apparently another Gingerbread build in the cards. Having played with some sort of cobbled-together Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc with a 2.4 build, the site says that we can expect an incremental build that seems to feature miscellaneous stuff Google might not have had time to include in 2.3 -- random things like a new animation when deleting icons off the home screen, to much bigger features like visible video calling hooks. Unfortunately, said hooks didn't seem to be tied to any video calling-enabled Google Talk client, but considering how early this build seems to be, there's reason to believe they'll add it in by launch time. It's an open question when this is coming -- or to what devices -- and when you think about Eclair's progression from 2.0 to 2.1, it could happen sooner than you expect. "
Wow, it's like Deja Vu of last year
Eclair 2.1 - December 09
Eclair 2.1 - January 10
I could see the same thing happening:
Gingerbread 2.3 - December 10
Gingerbread 2.4 - January 11
I wonder what are the improvements though. I would predict the new Android music player or Gtalk Video calling
I think that is fake or something. It just doesn't add up. Sony has always been ages behind everyone else when it comes to android.... And wouldn't we be seeing 2.4 on nexus s before sony could even sniff the code for it?
Luxferro said:
I think that is fake or something. It just doesn't add up. Sony has always been ages behind everyone else when it comes to android.... And wouldn't we be seeing 2.4 on nexus s before sony could even sniff the code for it?
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Maybe it is fake cuz really anyone could make their phone say anything
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Luxferro said:
I think that is fake or something. It just doesn't add up. Sony has always been ages behind everyone else when it comes to android.... And wouldn't we be seeing 2.4 on nexus s before sony could even sniff the code for it?
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sony indeed does that.
but i think sony is trying to fix that,with the upcoming devices.
the psp phone now runs 2.3 instead of the 2.1(on first leaked photos)
and we all know the chart with web visited 2.4 devices.(supposed to be honeycomb rumor.though honeycomb is officially 3.0)
androidpolice
Question, i know you can edit the build.prop to say what ever version number you would like but would that carry over to usage stats like in that article?
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Question, i know you can edit the build.prop to say what ever version number you would like but would that carry over to usage stats like in that article?
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sure. any website or server that tracks hits to their site can log the user agent info from each device. any rooted user can make their user agent and/or build.prop look like any device and platform it wants. to the outside world (server) it doesnt know the difference.
It's like I'm a ****ing psychic or something.
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sure. any website or server that tracks hits to their site can log the user agent info from each device. any rooted user can make their user agent and/or build.prop look like any device and platform it wants. to the outside world (server) it doesnt know the difference.
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In that case, i say we all edit our build.prop to show version 5.0 and pay some websites a visit
Stream TV has posted a new firmware.
http://elocitynow.com/support_downloads.shtml
Thanks for info...
Downloaded and loading now. I will report my experience with the new firmware in a while.
For anyone who has not upgraded, please let me know what the build number was on the old firmware. Nothing cosmetic, seems a little slower than the Dexter mod I was running, may have to revert back to that until something substantial occurs with the firmware. There is a new kernel if the previous one in Dexter's mod was based on the December 24th release.
I'm curious about the date of the release not changing although the description of what has changed is at the top of the page.
I just checked, it still says Dec. 24, 2010. I'm not seeing the 1/15/2011 update listed on their firmware page.
The same here ...is the file the new one or the one from December?...what is suppose to be a new build number?
It hard to say because the filename is update.zip. It would be useful if they changed the naming convention to something friendlier. Let us rename the file to update.zip. Anyway that would be a recommendation. Name the file by the release date.
It is the new firmware on the website.
Date is incorrect.
I installed but ido not see any difference...
The update is a new update. Below is the build number of the December update and the current one.
December - PBJ8000.2.0121
January 14/15 I guess depending on where you are - PBJ8000.2.0124
No visual changes, all under the hood. Ad-hoc works without modification I did notice that. I'll keep it installed since I have added the marked to it.
Still does not report external storage correctly.
Still looking for Cifs and some 3g usb dongle support. That would round it out for me.
POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
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POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
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And you expected something different?
Unfortunately they can't include the Market or the google app as Google won't allow them. There is nothing they can do until Google changes the rules or releases a version of Android approved for tablets. This is the case with just about all the Android tablets currently on the Market.
I'm waiting for a ROM that includes the Market and Google Apps to be cooked up by the Devs here before I to the update.
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POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
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Yeah if you don't understand that stream tv won't be releasing a firmware with market at least on froyo, I don't think you get it. Wait for Dexter of another dev to cook up a rom or learn how to get market on there yourself. before you start calling the updates a POS.
That said has anyone noticed any real changes? So far the only difference for me is that swype FCs on me now.
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Yeah if you don't understand that stream tv won't be releasing a firmware with market at least on froyo, I don't think you get it. Wait for Dexter of another dev to cook up a rom or learn how to get market on there yourself. before you start calling the updates a POS.
That said has anyone noticed any real changes? So far the only difference for me is that swype FCs on me now.
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Maybe because of the WIFI fixes...but I am seeing much improved battery life... Before I would get about 4-5 hours... now last two days..about 6-7 hours..maybe a fluke.. but I will see over the next few days..
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Unfortunately they can't include the Market or the google app as Google won't allow them. There is nothing they can do until Google changes the rules or releases a version of Android approved for tablets. This is the case with just about all the Android tablets currently on the Market.
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I will just understand...
Is Google deny Market at any tablets with OS Android 2.2 only?
I heard Viewsonic Viewpad 7 has Google Market
Why eLocity has not?
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I will just understand...
Is Google deny Market at any tablets with OS Android 2.2 only?
I heard Viewsonic Viewpad 7 has Google Market
Why eLocity has not?
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Froyo was not designed for tablets. The only tablet, 7 inches or bigger, that comes with official market support is the galaxy tab. Well that I'm aware of being available anyway. Google is currently only approving market for phones on 2.2 and the only reason the galaxy tab got approval is a convoluted definition as a phone. or more likely in my mind some backroom dealings between samsung and google. Either way Stream TV has never promised market on the A7 and most of us jumped in knowing that. If you lost market el al by upgrading to the latest firmware that means you were previously running a mod... my guess being one of dexters since I'm not aware of any others.
It seems you were not aware that the mod you were running was not an official firmware from Stream TV and is not supported by them.
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That's to be expected. You should be able to add them back pretty easy. How did you put them on there in the first place - via ElocityMod or Manually?
Billy
Can you tell me how to put the Market on my A7? I just got one and installed teh updated firmware. Looks like if I install Dexter's mod it will be going backwards on my firmware.
THX
Bob
bsedor said:
Can you tell me how to put the Market on my A7? I just got one and installed teh updated firmware. Looks like if I install Dexter's mod it will be going backwards on my firmware.
THX
Bob
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No, Dexter's V1.1 is based on the latest (1/15/11) firmware. If you install that you get the latest firmware plus the Market and Gapps.
Does anyone know whether the update the SD card will be similar to the flash update, that is fix only one bug/feature or is it supposed to be more comprehensive kinda of like a service pack for windows ( address stability, add some moderate features, etc).
Given the wait I am hoping for the latter.
Also is the reason that there aren't more apps optomized for honeycomb is that source code has not been released? If that is the case why have some apps like quickoffice HD been able to be optimized for homeycomb?
Pardon my ignorance I just became an android convert (phone-samsung epic 4g and tablet)
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Does anyone know whether the update the SD card will be similar to the flash update, that is fix only one bug/feature or is it supposed to be more comprehensive kinda of like a service pack for windows ( address stability, add some moderate features, etc).
Given the wait I am hoping for the latter.
Also is the reason that there aren't more apps optomized for honeycomb is that source code has not been released? If that is the case why have some apps like quickoffice HD been able to be optimized for homeycomb?
Pardon my ignorance I just became an android convert (phone-samsung epic 4g and tablet)
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No one knows how the update is going to be. The honeycomb SDK is what they use to build apps, and it has been out for a while now.
although some devs seem to be waiting for the source code still
I expect it will be a fairly big update, but not like 'a service pack' with LOADS of new features, probably just more a lot more bug fixes than just one SD fix...
I also imagine that some devs may be waiting a bit to see if tablet-specific apps catch on - and/or some may develop a new 'tablet edition' app rather than just tweaking old ones to run on Honeycomb... ?
Personally I am more disappointed with the bigger companies like BBC that haven't got iPlayer running on honeycomb!
What's weird is when I talk to some of the devs of paid apps they usually say want to do a honeycomb optimized version but need the source code. As was mentioned above the sdk was released in january so I don't really understand what they mean waiting for the source code.
Cnn does a fully optimized version, its pretty good. I know its not the bbc, but the cnn international isn't bad [that's what I watch when I visit my family in peru]. More similar to bbc style of reporting.
Well here's hoping for a honeycomb update so and more apps!
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although some devs seem to be waiting for the source code still
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Personally I am more disappointed with the bigger companies like BBC that haven't got iPlayer running on honeycomb!
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I know its off topic, but you don't need an app for bbc/Iplayer. Just watch it in the browser, isn't that the great thing about a xooom, you don't need lots of apps.....
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I know its off topic, but you don't need an app for bbc/Iplayer. Just watch it in the browser, isn't that the great thing about a xooom, you don't need lots of apps.....
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This is true - but it is nice to have optimised HC apps like YouTube - looks great in the app