Colour Calibration on newest batch? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone,
Long time follower but first poster on this particular forum, am on the cusp of ordering a nexus 4 but slightly concerned about some reports concerning the colour calibration/washed out status of the screen. Just wandering if anyone here who has purchased/seen a RECENTLY bought nexus 4 and can report on whether this issue has been fixed/improved at all?
It's the only thing that stopping me from purchasing as I'm used to the saturation and 'pop' of my 4s and don't want to trade down so to speak.I have a nexus 7 and the colours are very washed out so I'm hoping it's at least better than that. I know of course about the display control app etc but I don't really want to root to be honest.
Thoughts?

paddylaz said:
Hey everyone,
Long time follower but first poster on this particular forum, am on the cusp of ordering a nexus 4 but slightly concerned about some reports concerning the colour calibration/washed out status of the screen. Just wandering if anyone here who has purchased/seen a RECENTLY bought nexus 4 and can report on whether this issue has been fixed/improved at all?
It's the only thing that stopping me from purchasing as I'm used to the saturation and 'pop' of my 4s and don't want to trade down so to speak.I have a nexus 7 and the colours are very washed out so I'm hoping it's at least better than that. I know of course about the display control app etc but I don't really want to root to be honest.
Thoughts?
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I don't have any colour calibration issue. Anyway, with some apps, like franco kernel updater u can modify the color / gamma settings of your screen
Buy it... trust me.

luiseteyo said:
I don't have any colour calibration issue. Anyway, with some apps, like franco kernel updater u can modify the color / gamma settings of your screen
Buy it... trust me.
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You don't realise the screen is washed out until you either compare it with another phone or calibrate the screen and see the true potential of the display
@OP, some people said that things got better with the 4.2.2 update but if I were you I would definitely root and install a calibrated kernel.

paddylaz said:
Hey everyone,
Long time follower but first poster on this particular forum, am on the cusp of ordering a nexus 4 but slightly concerned about some reports concerning the colour calibration/washed out status of the screen. Just wandering if anyone here who has purchased/seen a RECENTLY bought nexus 4 and can report on whether this issue has been fixed/improved at all?
It's the only thing that stopping me from purchasing as I'm used to the saturation and 'pop' of my 4s and don't want to trade down so to speak.I have a nexus 7 and the colours are very washed out so I'm hoping it's at least better than that. I know of course about the display control app etc but I don't really want to root to be honest.
Thoughts?
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To be honest the screen was completely unacceptable to me when I bought the phone. Rooting and installing kernels with color/gamma control definitely changed my mind. I know you don't want to root, but the phone is awesome in every other aspect. Of highly recommend buying it and installing a custom kernel as well.
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If you're coming from the 4S, or Galaxy phone with an AMOLED screen, and especially if you can't stand the Nexus 7 screen.. you will not appreciate the Nexus 4 display.
However, if you are not opposed to rooting and tweaking the display then you're good to go.

paddylaz said:
Hey everyone,
Long time follower but first poster on this particular forum, am on the cusp of ordering a nexus 4 but slightly concerned about some reports concerning the colour calibration/washed out status of the screen. Just wandering if anyone here who has purchased/seen a RECENTLY bought nexus 4 and can report on whether this issue has been fixed/improved at all?
It's the only thing that stopping me from purchasing as I'm used to the saturation and 'pop' of my 4s and don't want to trade down so to speak.I have a nexus 7 and the colours are very washed out so I'm hoping it's at least better than that. I know of course about the display control app etc but I don't really want to root to be honest.
Thoughts?
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seriously bro buy it
the screen is superb even in low brightness setting and it looks beautiful
trust me you wont regret buying it

Ok thanks guys - will have an extended test in store tomorrow and come to a conclusion. Still uneasy but all this custom kernal stuff as it's a bit above my intellectual pay grade but I love the look of the nexus so maybe I'll force myself to start learning/experimenting outside the comfort zone so to speak.
Thanks again

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Color temperature

Hi,
is there a way to change the color temperature?
I'm not sure about it but in my opinion the colors look too cold/flat, they are a lot more powerful on my Optimus 2X and if I remember correctly they were also better on my 4X HD (which I returned), since the 4X HD uses the same display technology it should be possible to get the colors of the 4X on my Nexus.
Any idea how to do this?
- Hidden
I've played with and owned many android phones and the N4 is probably the most true when it comes to colors. Many of those more vibrant screens dont have true whites and over saturate colors to make them *seem* better. Maybe if you give it a little time, you'll get more used to it
franco's colour display app on the play market
spitefulcheerio said:
I've played with and owned many android phones and the N4 is probably the most true when it comes to colors. Many of those more vibrant screens dont have true whites and over saturate colors to make them *seem* better. Maybe if you give it a little time, you'll get more used to it
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That's nice and all, but I really don't like this cold look. (I think it's missing some blue but not sure about that)
roughavoc said:
franco's colour display app on the play market
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I can't find something like this?
Wouldn't missing blues make the color temp warmer?
I thought that the Nexus 4 actually had a warmer color compared to my G2. The whites look faintly orange.
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Wouldn't missing blues make the color temp warmer?
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That's why I wrote that I'm not sure. I would also say that missing blue would look warmer, but it seems cold with missing blue
(I will make a comparison photo when I'm at home)
I have made a side by side comparison with my Nexus 4 and my colleagues Samsung Nexus. The colors on Samsung Nexus are much very much more nicer and warmer than on my Nexus 4. Colors on the Nexus 4 are like washed out.
Please fix it, or i will be forced to sell this phone.
it is fixed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136295
the guy above me wanting contrasty colors installs this: http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/mako/pa_mako-Kernel422_CalibratedContrasty.zip
after this you'll not want to look at the gnex anymore - your nexus 4 trumps it easily.
the other guy wanting more even/warm colors can install the contrasty revision, too and a more harmless variant: http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/mako/pa_mako-Kernel422_CalibratedHalfbreed.zip
the colors will be neutral, you can finetune them with this app and make em warmer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigeyes0x0.trickstermod
you are spot on about the blue btw. that is precisely what google has crippled, the bluechannel. thats why nex4 has the most unnatural colors of any ips device on the market. the display is capable of true wonders though, if calibrated.
as for those that think nex4 is supposed to display like this, ....carrots - they're good for eyesight. (-:
i dont want to root my phone.
then sell your phone.
molesarecoming said:
then sell your phone.
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lol sorry to say but this cracked me up
onlymarek said:
i dont want to root my phone.
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Lol you bought a nexus (which is primarily marketed for developers and those who love to hack,mod,alter,experiment and otherwise play with their phones) but you don't want to root your phone??! Better sell your N4 and get yourself an iphone,buddy.
nice manners. your mothers must be proud.
just for your information. i didnt paid for my phone just to **** it with some unofficially and unsupported ****. i rather wait for an official fix/update.
onlymarek said:
nice manners. your mothers must be proud.
just for your information. i didnt paid for my phone just to **** it with some unofficially and unsupported ****. i rather wait for an official fix/update.
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rooting doesn't brick OTA.
it's OK to have a Nexus without root, but you shouldn't be here at XDA, this is a hacker/developer forum
So if you want something, don't expect anyone to find a solution without root
ok. i understand.. thanks for the clearing D4rkSoRRoW. appreciate it.
onlymarek said:
nice manners. your mothers must be proud.
just for your information. i didnt paid for my phone just to **** it with some unofficially and unsupported ****. i rather wait for an official fix/update.
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lol..dude, lighten up.You are on a hacking site so what do you expect for your silly "I don't wanna root my nexus" comment.

App for color calibration?

Hi!
im going to get the N10 in the next week and the first thing i will do because im a color junkie is a calibration test so se how close/far it is from
reference.
i have been into hardware calibration for displays for some years so i see myself as a pro.
i have X-Rite Display 3 Colorimeter and Chroma Pure calibration program.
http://www.chromapure.com/
the test patterns i use is from AVSHD709
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
i have already calibrated my LG Infinia LED TV to reference quality,so if only the right (ISF/CMS) settings is there i can calibrate any display to near reference quality.
but its all about the settings how much you can change.
so the question is:
is there a App that i can change the RGB values and saturation/hue also gamma settings?
or do i need to get a custom rom?
i know some custom roms for the SG2 has some screen/gamma adjustments in EX tweaks.
if its not i will still post the results from the calibration so you can check it out to see how good/bad calibrated the Nexus 10 is
Edit: i just found one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745248
but i need this for the N10
Theres an app in the play store called Screen Adjuster that allows to change RGB, contrast, brightness but requires root. Been wanting to try it but I cant root my tablet as my pc wont recognize my tablet in fastboot.
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aznmode said:
Theres an app in the play store called Screen Adjuster that allows to change RGB, contrast, brightness but requires root. Been wanting to try it but I cant root my tablet as my pc wont recognize my tablet in fastboot.
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Just tried it out and it seemed to slow down the tablet.
404 ERROR said:
Just tried it out and it seemed to slow down the tablet.
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Try not to use contrast if you don't need it. That's what's slowed my galaxy s3 down
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Apps on the market only apply a filter on top of the screen. You're going to want a kernel with proper color calibration support to prevent performance loss.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6472/ipad-4-late-2012-review/2
Here's anandtech's review of tablet displays.
vitaminxero said:
Apps on the market only apply a filter on top of the screen. You're going to want a kernel with proper color calibration support to prevent performance loss.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6472/ipad-4-late-2012-review/2
Here's anandtech's review of tablet displays.
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thanks for the link
interesting
damn the Nexus 10 is WAY off in the Gamut Chart!
how the hell can they release a screen thats is so off?
surley needs some calibration there
fix a kernel with RGB adjustments and i will fix a calibration that is better than on the iPad4.
after that you can just copy the settings and BOOM you have a reference display.
(that is if the screens dont differ to much)
i have the tools and the Knowlegde to calibrate displays but zippo knowlegde in hacking kernels
so Kernel Experts
MAKE IT HAPPEND!
Edit: first thing you will start with is the grayscale
when the grayscale is right (whites is white and not blue) then automatic you have your 6500k color temp (6500kelvin is messured from daylight in california if someone wants to know)
Also the Gamut is adjusted in position.
so its easy
with a correct grayscale everything (almost) else becomes right on spot.
one setting that they dont test there is Gamma
gamma at 2.2 is important if you want to see all details in darker parts of movies or photos.
gamma is adjusted with all three sliders Red/Green/Blue locked
So what i need is RGB adjustments and Saturation/HUE adjustments if its possible
comon hackers
we must beat the iPad!
If you want to have ICC support in kernel you've to ask a kernel dev. But I don't think that someone will implement this feature. Because the majority of users doesn't know or care about correct colors.
As the test results of your linked page show the N10 reaches a "good" neutral in white, gray and black. But the contrast is very low and by calibrating and profiling it you'll reduce it more. You've to calibrate D65 at 120 - 140 cd and after this to write a correction profile especially for blue and violet tones.
Apple does such things because their customers want to have and need good colors. But I don't see a market for android users. Photoshop touch is crap and there is no other "real" graphics suite / app. Given gamut is okay for daily use, e.g. viewing movies and surfing around the web.
So, don't be disappointed if your wish to cailbrate and profile the N10 won't be possible at all. An google seems not to have plans for ICC support in android, see https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-developers/Ifnsdbkqxqo
The only thing that really seems off is that it has very washed out purples. Its fine other than that. It strange as it can display blue and red just fine.
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thunderger said:
If you want to have ICC support in kernel you've to ask a kernel dev. But I don't think that someone will implement this feature. Because the majority of users doesn't know or care about correct colors.[/url]
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Fortunately a lot of devs seems to think different seeing the amount of stuff they've coded that average Joe doesn't know or care about.
I for one would love to see the OP succeed as i see nothing wrong with getting better colour accuracy on my N10.
I personally really hope that a color calibration app/kernel becomes available.....devs PLEASE make it happen!! I like the punchy (albeit 'ficticious') colors of the amoLED display on my Galaxy Note....Please devs, give us the option to control/enhance the color of the Nexus 10's screen!
Another shout for some calibration tools on the nexus 10. All my main displays are calibrated & it's quite a shock to pick up my nexus 10 & the see the washed out colours
Indeed, the guy who mentioned the fact that the average Joe doesn't care about color reproduction is forgetting the fact that not a single one of us here is an average consumer, I also own an iPad 3 and I really loathe the washed out look on our display, the iPad looks very similar to the calibration I have on my Sony TV while the nexus looks almost like a color less gray when its put beside them, they all look like crap when you put them besides my SGS 2 though, all I really need to be completely happy with my Nexus would be a way to calibrate our screens, I have already pretty much given the iPad to my little sister but I hate to admit that the colors there look much much better than on the Nexus.
And by loathe I mean that I completely hate and despise it, such a great display ruined by the damn color calibration, the option should be built into Android for ****s sake.
PLEASE devs make it happen, color calibration seems to be an issue shared between all of the recent Nexus devices, for example, the screen on the Nexus 4 doesn't look as good as the one on the LG Optimus G (Or so I've read)
It's a shame Google are apathetic on this issue. Users that want do photo work are forced to go to Apple. Small OT aside: It's the same deal with audio creation apps/interfaces, Google doesn't care. I'd rather set my sites on Ubuntu.
Another vote for getting some kind of good calibration tool for the N10. I can put up with a lot, but the black levels are killing me. I would even put up with some loss of detail if I could get better black levels.
So... Guys, how can we contact Google to ask them to fix this themselves or do something so we can fix it ourselves?
Fidelator said:
So... Guys, how can we contact Google to ask them to fix this themselves or do something so we can fix it ourselves?
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i will search tomorrow
but isnt this a problem for samsung?
pg_ice said:
i will search tomorrow
but isnt this a problem for samsung?
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Nah, the screen on the Nexus 4 doesn't look as good as the one in the Optimus G and the screen on the 7 is kind of washed out from what I've read, and from past experience I've seen that Samsung tends to calibrate their screens pretty nice, (albeit a bit saturated) on factory settings across all devices.
Hope someone can sort out the black levels, watching movies the blacks look grey specially with Dark Knight! Tried all sorts of things but nowt helping!
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Nah, the screen on the Nexus 4 doesn't look as good as the one in the Optimus G and the screen on the 7 is kind of washed out from what I've read, and from past experience I've seen that Samsung tends to calibrate their screens pretty nice, (albeit a bit saturated) on factory settings across all devices.
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It's a shame for Google not calibrating any of their screens. Nexus 4 has those ugly washed colors, same with the nexus 10. And black levels, despite as many synthetic tests you will post (anandtech etc) are quite bad.
I'm so sure this is software... and 0 upgrades from Google. Its ok they will push next version of android as soon as avaliable, but nothing else, no OTAs for bug fixing. Any other brand would have already pushed several upgrades to new devices, bugs appear and samsung, htc etc gives you solutions (not always, but...)

Just moved over from an S3 - Some help needed please

Hey guys, I've just moved over from an S3 and have some questions. Any help is appreciated.
1. With a higher PPI, I assumed the screen would be more clearer. The colors are washed and the picture quality is not as good as the S3. What is better is text. It seems sharper, but pictures looked washed and not as good as the S3. I've noticed a thread with changing the RGB values, and have tried to the app to change the values, but I it is still not as good as the S3. Can anything be done to resolve this?
2. Wireless Charging - i want to be able to do this, but I have seen the Nokia chargers are a little hit and miss. Which ones work 100%?
3. High battery drain. Which is the best kernel to use with AOKP?
Many thanks for your help guys
1. Use faux kernel with faux app
2. qi chargers other than nokia
3. faux kernel and his app + his values
4. use q and a thread
Once you've used nexus for a while, the s3 screen will look cartoon and awful seriously. Put a really good HD colourful background pic on homescren and use phone for a few weeks and you'll never ever go back to amoled screens unless you really really love cartoons lol.
As for battery drain, this will improve but faux kernels are excellent
biffsmash said:
Once you've used nexus for a while, the s3 screen will look cartoon and awful seriously. Put a really good HD colourful background pic on homescren and use phone for a few weeks and you'll never ever go back to amoled screens unless you really really love cartoons lol.
As for battery drain, this will improve but faux kernels are excellent
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I've installed the faux kernel so will see how it goes
Just took a picture of the same image with an S3 and the N4 and the S3 looks so much better.
winwiz said:
I've installed the faux kernel so will see how it goes
Just took a picture of the same image with an S3 and the N4 and the S3 looks so much better.
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To be honest, I m in the same situation as you.
The screen, I think we ll get used to it, my wife still got her S3, and it is not natural in another way . But agreed that the screen is "pale".
The worst is the battery, as soon as the screen is used, the drain is just so huge....
BUT
The SGS3 is no new phone, remember, so I m sure the N4 will get better in the battery front.
The possibilities of developpement fun will make up for it, because after all, that s why we are here on XDA, right?
kipue said:
To be honest, I m in the same situation as you.
The screen, I think we ll get used to it, my wife still got her S3, and it is not natural in another way . But agreed that the screen is "pale".
The worst is the battery, as soon as the screen is used, the drain is just so huge....
BUT
The SGS3 is no new phone, remember, so I m sure the N4 will get better in the battery front.
The possibilities of developpement fun will make up for it, because after all, that s why we are here on XDA, right?
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I was happier when I had my S3, as there was plenty of development
but since I upgraded to the S3 LTE, the development was limited and I got frustrated. Also my S3 LTE kept dropping reception and it was getting really annoying so I got rid of it
The AMOLED screen on the S3 is seriously a joke. Colors are over saturated and as someone else already said, it looks cartoonish.
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I can see the appeal in the AMOLED screens Samsung uses. They do produce some vibrant colors. Comparing my old Captivate (SGS1) to my Nexus 4 is even a pretty stark difference. Honestly, though, I have come to prefer the less saturated look on the N4.
I came from the S3, the only things I really miss are the camera and the battery.
The camera is amazing on the S3, the pictures were always much sharper than the pictures taken with the N4, the N4 does take VERY nice pictures with ample light.
The battery on the S3 seemed to be a lot better, and drain much slower...I'm REALLY hoping that this gets fixed with 4.2.2....
After using the N4 since its initial release looking at the S3 screen is...bad (IMO), I LOVED the S3, but the screen on the N4 is a lot brighter, clearer and seems to have more natural colors.
For kernel, I recommend the latest faux beta kernel, has amazing battery life for me and has also been relatively stable. It has one issue for me, sometimes the phone just doesn't wake up after I turned off the screen, but that's only in rare cases and really no big deal.
You should also use the faux app from the Play Store, it's a bit expensive imo but it's worth it since you can do all kinds of stuff with it from undervolting to setting the screen calibration.
Speaking of screen calibration: The stock one is really not that goot, especially the whites and overall colours on lower brightness looked a bit weird to me sometimes. But I changed the calibration a bit and it looks awesome and just "true" (again, to me personally). I'll post my calibration here, maybe you can try it. I took it from a spreadsheet where it said it would be calibrated just like a MacBook Pro screen which is supposed to be perfectly calibrated:
Red 255, Green 255, Blue 255. Gamma Amp0: Red 19, Green 21, Blue 24. Gamma Amp1: Red 1, Green 2, Blue 3.
I hope it helps.
Like some previous comments stated, the amoled screens are OVER saturated to the max.
As far as the battery life, I would look into juicedefender. Works great for me.
My Note 2's screen looks much more similar to my Nexus 4's screen when screen mode is set to "Natural." Does the S3 have a similar setting to make the AMOLED vibrancy less jarring?
cartoons
Hey just in case you do like cartoons, see how these look;
http://www.animewapers.com/hd-anime-wallpapers-directory/
As for battery, wait 'til the honeymoon is over. It lasts plenty. Unless you have NOW enabled.
I'm considering buying a Nexus 4 now that it's back in stock and I can afford it. I've no need for the phone at all but just really like everything about it. Currently using an S3 also... anyone who owned both care to share opinions?
I've been a GS3 user from release date. I was on AOKP for the longest that I wanted to try the real deal. I just got my Nexus 4 two days ago and I love everything about it except the camera. GS3 camera wins hand down. The screen on the Nexus 4 is amazing and you won't want to look at your Samsung anymore.
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I'm considering buying a Nexus 4 now that it's back in stock and I can afford it. I've no need for the phone at all but just really like everything about it. Currently using an S3 also... anyone who owned both care to share opinions?
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The phones are equally good in my opinion. If you like touch wiz, stay with the s3. If you like stock android, want more Dev support, and don't want to put up with Samsung's slow updates then go with the nexus. I personally prefer my nexus because I want the updates from Google and not the OEM's, and I'm a flashaholic.
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I'm considering buying a Nexus 4 now that it's back in stock and I can afford it. I've no need for the phone at all but just really like everything about it. Currently using an S3 also... anyone who owned both care to share opinions?
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Well the Nexus 4 is a lot faster and the screen doesn't look so weird like the S3. The N4 feels a little different in the hand - much better build quality on the N4 but the tapered edges of the S3 are a little nicer on the hand. You will definitely like the N4, it feels like quality kit in your hand and performance is excellent.
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I got my N4 2 days ago. Before that I owned an S3. When I first looked at the N4's screen, it was very strange, it seemed pale to me, and I missed the accurate blacks from Amoled. But after one day I got used to it, and began to like it more and more. It's very sharp, and clean. The build quality is much better, and more solid than the S3.Imo it is beautiful with its minimal design.
The peformance is better, not a single app redraw or anything... Battery... For me it lasts from morning 7 till I arrive at home at 7 pm, and still has some energy in it (approx. 20%). On the way to work I listen to music and read forums for 1 hour, and I repeat this on the way home too. During the work, I send a few emails, some facebook, and every service is on. I don't think it would be so bad... Day by day I like my N4 more and more.

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I had some questions about the nexus 10 I ordered mine from play store shouls be getting here soon after I readed all these problems im ready thinking its gonna be bad like some people say . How do getting replacements work . Do they send me one first then I send messed up one back . After the 15 day return period could you still get replacements if like the screen leeks bad . ???????
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If you let Google put the cost of a new Nexus 10 on hold then they will send you a Nexus 10 while you still have yours. The money will be released when they receive your old Nexus 10.
Replacements are done through Google first, and after the return/replacement period then warranty for hardware defects is through Samsung. The Nexus 10 comes with a 1 year warranty, but a couple people have had problems with Samsung trying to say the warranty is only 90 days. The booklet clearly says 1 year though, and I think it says 1 year in the Play store when you buy the tablet so Samsung will have to honor that. If there are too many problems try and get Google involved with Samsung not upholding warranty on Google's tablets.
And it is really just 15% of people making a large stink about problems, many people are perfectly fine and happy with the tablet. Of those 15%, probably 5% will simply never be happy and just want to cause problems.
When you get your tablet be sure to set your background to solid black and delete all icons on the homescreen. Turn the brightness up half way and look for backlight bleed. if you have some, then you should consider returning the tablet for a new one, especially is the bleed has a yellow color to it rather than white. You can turn the backlight up higher to check with more brightness, but if you dont notice it at 50% then you probably wont ever notice any issues with the screen during any use.
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If you let Google put the cost of a new Nexus 10 on hold then they will send you a Nexus 10 while you still have yours. The money will be released when they receive your old Nexus 10.
Replacements are done through Google first, and after the return/replacement period then warranty for hardware defects is through Samsung. The Nexus 10 comes with a 1 year warranty, but a couple people have had problems with Samsung trying to say the warranty is only 90 days. The booklet clearly says 1 year though, and I think it says 1 year in the Play store when you buy the tablet so Samsung will have to honor that. If there are too many problems try and get Google involved with Samsung not upholding warranty on Google's tablets.
And it is really just 15% of people making a large stink about problems, many people are perfectly fine and happy with the tablet. Of those 15%, probably 5% will simply never be happy and just want to cause problems.
When you get your tablet be sure to set your background to solid black and delete all icons on the homescreen. Turn the brightness up half way and look for backlight bleed. if you have some, then you should consider returning the tablet for a new one, especially is the bleed has a yellow color to it rather than white. You can turn the backlight up higher to check with more brightness, but if you dont notice it at 50% then you probably wont ever notice any issues with the screen during any use.
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Do you like your tablet . If you could go back would you have still bought it ?
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Yes i would buy it again ...
but with more care about the possible defect . test the product very good before decide to keep it or not . dont trust google and samsung
- test the bleeding ( i have alot 4 points )
- test the battery . you should get at least 6 hour of screen minimum minimum on surfing the net . ( i get 5 )
- test the hdmi out ( i got it deffective from the box )
At least this are my problems
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Do you like your tablet . If you could go back would you have still bought it ?
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Yes I love mine. It is extremely smooth with custom ROMs and kernels. We have lots of great options from developers, battery life is exceptional, and the screen looks amazing watching an HD movie or TV show. I suppose if I had ever had problems with the tablet then I may feel differently, but I have yet to have any issues whatsoever. My one regret is that I did not purchase a 32GB version. If I could go back I would have waited another week to buy and paid the extra $100 for double storage space. I have a lot of games installed and my tablet is 90% full on space at all times and I wish I could install more.
I also have the note 10.1 which one you think is better .
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I havent used the Note 10.1 so I really dont know. The performance on the Nexus 10 is much better, and I like the higher res screen. But I heard the colors still look nicer on the Note 10.1.
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I havent used the Note 10.1 so I really dont know. The performance on the Nexus 10 is much better, and I like the higher res screen. But I heard the colors still look nicer on the Note 10.1.
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When do you notice the light bleeding?
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My tablet does not show any hint of light bleed until it reaches 80% or more brightness on a completely black background. Which is pretty good since LCD screens just inherently have light bleed because of how the backlight is designed for the tech. I have never even gone above 30% brightness while in doors, and outside at 100% it would be impossible to see any backlight bleeding anyway.
Once your tablet arrives I highly suggest the KTManta kernel. It has lots of fun options and the only kernel with a bit of color fix.
EniGmA1987 said:
My tablet does not show any hint of light bleed until it reaches 80% or more brightness on a completely black background. Which is pretty good since LCD screens just inherently have light bleed because of how the backlight is designed for the tech. I have never even gone above 30% brightness while in doors, and outside at 100% it would be impossible to see any backlight bleeding anyway.
Once your tablet arrives I highly suggest the KTManta kernel. It has lots of fun options and the only kernel with a bit of color fix.
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Will do
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Don't let bad comments on the forum frighten you away.. It wasn't that bad anyway. I'm still loving it.
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Lim Wee Huat said:
Don't let bad comments on the forum frighten you away.. It wasn't that bad anyway. I'm still loving it.
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Do you have any problems with yours
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I love my N10. But this is my second one, I had to RMA my first one. I was pretty vocal about the problems I was having, because of this:
+Its true that there is a lot of problem threads about this device. Partially this is from Android 4.2.1 not playing well with the N10, partially its because there are some defective N10 devices out there. I know because I had one! When you, the end user, has a general problem and then you go online to try and see if there is a fix, you find these threads, and everyone chimes in together it starts to get intense. Some of the people, as another user said, may never actually be satisfied. But others are reporting real problems, trying to find a fix. Im a lot more OCD than most people I meet, so I just assumed that was what was going on. I assumed I was just being picky, and that others were just being okay with it. But now, after using a different N10, I can say there was a guaranteed problem with my first unit.
So, just like the people that say "bad" need to be taken with a grain of salt, so do the people that say "good". I can say this: there are both good and bad N10s out there, and one thing EVERY new N10 owner needs to do is QUICKLY determine if you have a good or a bad one so that you can remedy the situation ASAP if you have a bad one.
~bm
There's two things I'm not a big fan of on the Nexus 10:
- Thermal throttling (this shouldn't even be an issue under normal circumstances, but the situation is far better than it was around launch)
- Available memory (we only have access to 1.2GB of RAM, not anywhere near the advertised 2GB)
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Do you have any problems with yours
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Nope. I rooted it as soon as I got my hands on it. My fave: Rasbeanjelly + Trinity..
Edit: Thermal throttling is a common problem across all Nexus devices. But I don't consider it a big problem because I'm underclocked.

Nexus 7 Warm/yellow whites?

Sorry if their is another thread available, but has anyone noticed that the nexus has yellow whites compared to another tablet and even my nexus 4.
Could this just be calibration related or hardware?
I haven't really. Might just be the calibration. If you want, exchange it for one that doesn't. Or, wait a few weeks/months for custom kernels to allow you to calibrate it yourself.
I noticed this myself when my screen appeared quite a few degrees warmer than that on my wife's iPad.
A kernel with colour temperature control will help you out if you're unlocked/rooted - Faux does some excellent kernels and he's actively producing kernels for Flo...
Otherwise, you can try the old exchange roulette...
Thanks yeah i figured it was just calibration. My nexus 4 was the same way until i rooted and flashed franco's kernel.
I dont like to rma or exchange especially since we are all early adopters and at asus quality control mercy. I will hold on to this one and wait for kernels.
No light bleed, no dead pixels, no static, no dust, no spontaneous combustion! id be a fool to return it. :angel::angel::angel:
Compared to my S3 the whites are as white as can be, but I haven't compared it to an iPad yet.
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picture of my screen on xda definitely warmer.

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