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With the huge interest in the 4K and Timeshift Video mod, I figured now's better than ever to open a thread for sample footage either slow-motion or in 4K for those who are still in doubt whether or not to root their Xperia Z1 [Compact], or those who already have the mod installed and want to see what others can do with it. (those of you who have an Xperia Z1 [Compact] version that cannot be rooted - I recommend you don't watch these videos. You will get jealous and I do feel sorry for you)
To start this thread off, there's the amateuristic video I made:
Disclaimer: the mod does not work with the Xperia Z as far as I know - I've seen this question too many times all over the interwebz so don't even bother here. Other questions about the mod are welcome as long as it's not about the installing or flashing procedure.
Disclaimer 2: don't bother commenting about my fingerboarding skills either, I'm seriously not serious about this.
Xperia Z1 slow motion 120fps: http://youtu.be/HSysMJfkLEM
The water is very foggy I know
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Wow cool! Both videos look great!
ak800i said:
Xperia Z1 slow motion 120fps: http://youtu.be/HSysMJfkLEM
The water is very foggy I know
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You have some guts taking this phone underwater. I will never do that esp after seeing so many people cry as their warranty was denied bcoz of waster insertion.
Water is the best cooling agent
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I put my phone two times in water, I washed it two times also. No problems at all. Just the sound is a little lower when the water touch the phone.
But, after 10-15 min. it's all the same.
I don't wanna lose warranty with rooting and putting these features, but I'm eager to get them...
Putting your phone under water has higher risk of voiding your warranty rather than rooting your phone.
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ak800i said:
Xperia Z1 slow motion 120fps: http://youtu.be/HSysMJfkLEM
The water is very foggy I know
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You shouldn't put it under water, I was like that when watching: yes, yes ,yes, then under water, No, No, NO, then up, yes, yes....LOL....
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You shouldn't put it under water, I was like that when watching: yes, yes ,yes, then under water, No, No, NO, then up, yes, yes....LOL....
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Hahaha, I did it a few times now, we'll more than a few let's say about 20 and no problems. the sound is lower because it clogs the speaker and mic but it's back to normal as soon as it dries out. this is my second Z1 (the first had some headphone problem and they replaced it) and both have survived numerous submersions
I just make sure all the ports are properly sealed
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First test I did was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C52YIUnO43k
W. default settings, I think it's like 1/4 but you can slow even more with the apps, at 1/8
Gotta film more things, pretty sweet thing!
ravi_buz said:
You have some guts taking this phone underwater. I will never do that esp after seeing so many people cry as their warranty was denied bcoz of waster insertion.
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My phone got drowned with water, and covered under warranty. Because if the water damage was not for the users own fault, eg not closing flaps or something caught in them breaking the seal.
If Sony finds the phone has had water inside, the first thing they do is ensure that the flaps etc are closed and clear of debris, then conduct a pressure test, submerge the phone in water. If water is detected inside, then you have warranty because it is obviously a manufacturing or repair (if applicable) defect.
Lol at the people afraid of putting their phone under water. I've lost count of the times I've washed my phone or gone in the pool with it.
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I wish service center here do the same test. Once I went there for touch issue and another guy brought his phone. The service center reception guy just told him that his warranty is void as water has entered and told his to pay 50% of the actual price to get a new one.
For my touch issue he told that I have enabled "show touch" in developer option and that's why I have it ?
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Couple of Dog Videos
I shot these at a friend's house.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmVG5RkrU4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia8uQKTE4gA
Apologise if this isn't the correct thread to ask this but can the slow motion effects be applied to 120fps video after saving?
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Lol same here, I got my phone damaged somehow maybe after taking a shower with it( started flickering right after), and all flaps were closed etc but the screen started flickering and eventually died, sent it to sony, got it back with a new screen and outer housing, now the question is, is it still waterproof?
Have not rooted it yet, i got lazy to downgrade my firmware then root, then upgrade to keep root, currently the latest and greatest firmware cannot be rooted on the c6916
-Cries after seeing the videos because I'm on a non-Sony rom-
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Here is my YouTube Playlist for the same, hope you enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc1lDW7QCh-eGciLiNvdTI0TJ4yEegcBZ
peterkip said:
Apologise if this isn't the correct thread to ask this but can the slow motion effects be applied to 120fps video after saving?
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Yes, in the album, you will see movie creator icon on the bottom when you open up the 120fps video.
from there you can edit speed of any selected part again
It's more like who doesn't put their phone under water. 1 of the main selling points for this phone at the time anyway. I have done it countless times and no issues at all. I paid for a water proof phone it will take a dip with me when i want it to.
I thought my phone was water proof and it would be a good idea to watch GOT underwater.
Fail
3 days later out of the rice bag my phone loads the Samsung Logo, vibrates once then reboots.
I tried putting it in recovery mode, this causes the phone to reboot as well.
I tried putting the phone in download mode, this works.
I found the PIT and official firmware from this site.
I tried using Odin with the firmware first. It complete installed, the progress bar atleast then rebooted.
Once rebooted it showed the recovery booting... for long than usual, then went went into a recovery booting loop.
So I went back to download mode and tried to repartition with Odin with SM-G900T.pit
It immediately said FAILED.
Now I'm stuck.. I tried taking the phone back but they knew it was water related because of some red water mark.
Do I have any other options?
dondrel said:
I thought my phone was water proof and it would be a good idea to watch GOT underwater.
Fail
3 days later out of the rice bag my phone loads the Samsung Logo, vibrates once then reboots.
I tried putting it in recovery mode, this causes the phone to reboot as well.
I tried putting the phone in download mode, this works.
I found the PIT and official firmware from this site.
I tried using Odin with the firmware first. It complete installed, the progress bar atleast then rebooted.
Once rebooted it showed the recovery booting... for long than usual, then went went into a recovery booting loop.
So I went back to download mode and tried to repartition with Odin with SM-G900T.pit
It immediately said FAILED.
Now I'm stuck.. I tried taking the phone back but they knew it was water related because of some red water mark.
Do I have any other options?
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Hell, flashing pit won't help if you water damaged your phone. And quite frankly, you kinda deserved it, it isn't water proof, it's water resistant.
Enviado do meu Galaxy S5
dandroid13 said:
Hell, flashing pit won't help if you water damaged your phone. And quite frankly, you kinda deserved it, it isn't water proof, it's water resistant.
Enviado do meu Galaxy S5
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Please don't response to this thread anymore.
Any way, I posted this thread because I assumed that since the phone was dry that the damage could possibly only be software related. The screen,battery and download prompt all work fine. I'm wondering if anyone has ever encountered a similar situation before (water related or not) If mature people could response with information that can help other unfortunate people in my situation.
@dondrel
Sorry, but I kinda agree with dandroid13 because you intentionally caused your phone harm. You should have researched first the difference between water-resistant and water-proof. You should have used a water-proof case if you plan on bringing it under water for a long time. But just out of curiosity, how long did you submerged your S5 in water?
The least you could do is to remove the battery and let them all dry for at least 48 hours, focusing a fan on them would be better. Do not attempt to use the phone again. After 2 days, try everything else and see if you would still salvage your phone.
I'm stuck at this point.
SECURE CHECK FAIL : PIT
I'm going to research this issue in Google and see what I can find.
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@dondrel
Sorry, but I kinda agree with dandroid13 because you intentionally caused your phone harm. You should have researched first the difference between water-resistant and water-proof. You should have used a water-proof case if you plan on bringing it under water for a long time. But just out of curiosity, how long did you submerged your S5 in water?
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I didn't intentionally try to damage my phone.
I was showing off what I thought was a cool feature to my family the first day I got the phone.
If you agree with him then you're no help either.
Any humans here, or just trolls?
LoL
If you can't identify which words we posted are help, it's up to you. Good luck, you won't get any other help from others with that attitude.
Sorry...last post made me smile..."Hey family...look at this its soooo cool. I can watch GoT underwa.....oh....."
But seriously...if youre phone is fully dry and still wont boot I would say you killed it
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dondrel said:
Please don't response to this thread anymore.
Any way, I posted this thread because I assumed that since the phone was dry that the damage could possibly only be software related. The screen,battery and download prompt all work fine. I'm wondering if anyone has ever encountered a similar situation before (water related or not) If mature people could response with information that can help other unfortunate people in my situation.
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You watch a whole game of thrones under water when the phone can withstand only up to 30 min. Blame yourself and don't open dumb threads.
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I think people are being very rude here, while I am sure that in this particular case the problem hardware related and cannot be repaired by flashing anything, these things are not suppose to happen to a phone that is IP67 certified!
If the phone has been properly handled (battery cover properly closed, back cover properly fitted) then this should not have happened and saying warranty is voided should not hold any grounds! They are advertising this phone as IP67 so they have to live up to that promise and shouldn't be able to just always say it is due to a user error.
I understand that it can be difficult to prove that the user has closed the ports properly, but Samsung should either have built in a system check if everything was closed correctly, they shouldn't have marketed this phone as IP67 or should have known this could happen and simply repair the phones if the exact error couldn't have been found.
I have bought this phone because of a lot of features and IP67 was a big part of that! If this is how Samsung deals with these kinds of situations they will have a hard time dealing with angry customers here in the Netherlands.
johan81 said:
I think people are being very rude here, while I am sure that in this particular case the problem hardware related and cannot be repaired by flashing anything, these things are not suppose to happen to a phone that is IP67 certified!
If the phone has been properly handled (battery cover properly closed, back cover properly fitted) then this should not have happened and saying warranty is voided should not hold any grounds! They are advertising this phone as IP67 so they have to live up to that promise and shouldn't be able to just always say it is due to a user error.
I understand that it can be difficult to prove that the user has closed the ports properly, but Samsung should either have built in a system check if everything was closed correctly, they shouldn't have marketed this phone as IP67 or should have known this could happen and simply repair the phones if the exact error couldn't have been found.
I have bought this phone because of a lot of features and IP67 was a big part of that! If this is how Samsung deals with these kinds of situations they will have a hard time dealing with angry customers here in the Netherlands.
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I completely agree with you Jonan81.
I'm just going to ignore the people being jerks on here.
Note: I didn't watch the whole episode, not even 3 minutes
Anyway here's an update on my progress.
I left my phone plugged into the charger, I was getting a battery overheated Icon, (the battery isn't defective, its just that the phone wasn't charging the battery so there is damage in the USB plugin port) So what I did was completely unplug my phone and took out the battery. Held the power button for 10 seconds, put the battery back in and charger and repeated this process 5 times and now I'm able to charge my battery again.
Now if I can re-partition and reinstall the firmware I may have fully fixed my phone.....
I have a few options at this point, wait for the phone to dry more
Send to Samsung and pay them to replace parts (May be expensive)
Find a local place that fixes these issues (Radioshack)
I've decided to goto Radioshack first since it's just up the street to see what they'll say. If they fix it great.. if not I'll try to put it back in rice for a couple of days and work on re-partitioning somehow. If I can't do that then I'll just send it to Samsung.
johan81 said:
I think people are being very rude here, while I am sure that in this particular case the problem hardware related and cannot be repaired by flashing anything, these things are not suppose to happen to a phone that is IP67 certified!
If the phone has been properly handled (battery cover properly closed, back cover properly fitted) then this should not have happened and saying warranty is voided should not hold any grounds! They are advertising this phone as IP67 so they have to live up to that promise and shouldn't be able to just always say it is due to a user error.
I understand that it can be difficult to prove that the user has closed the ports properly, but Samsung should either have built in a system check if everything was closed correctly, they shouldn't have marketed this phone as IP67 or should have known this could happen and simply repair the phones if the exact error couldn't have been found.
I have bought this phone because of a lot of features and IP67 was a big part of that! If this is how Samsung deals with these kinds of situations they will have a hard time dealing with angry customers here in the Netherlands.
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Samsung wouldn't care. This phone is water resistant not water proof. If the phone has had some physical damage due to that then you need to take it to samsung cause nobody can help you here
unless it is software related. It Is that simple. Google IP67 for reference too.
dondrel said:
I completely agree with you Jonan81.
I'm just going to ignore the people being jerks on here.
Note: I didn't watch the whole episode, not even 3 minutes
Anyway here's an update on my progress.
I left my phone plugged into the charger, I was getting a battery overheated Icon, (the battery isn't defective, its just that the phone wasn't charging the battery so there is damage in the USB plugin port) So what I did was completely unplug my phone and took out the battery. Held the power button for 10 seconds, put the battery back in and charger and repeated this process 5 times and now I'm able to charge my battery again.
Now if I can re-partition and reinstall the firmware I may have fully fixed my phone.....
I have a few options at this point, wait for the phone to dry more
Send to Samsung and pay them to replace parts (May be expensive)
Find a local place that fixes these issues (Radioshack)
I've decided to goto Radioshack first since it's just up the street to see what they'll say. If they fix it great.. if not I'll try to put it back in rice for a couple of days and work on re-partitioning somehow. If I can't do that then I'll just send it to Samsung.
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barondebxl said:
Samsung wouldn't care. This phone is water resistant not water proof. If the phone has had some physical damage due to that then you need to take it to samsung cause nobody can help you here
unless it is software related. It Is that simple. Google IP67 for reference too.
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I would suggest you search that yourself: Protected against the effect of immersion between 15cm and 1m
This means it can be submerged according to IP67. I hope you drop your phone in water and it dies while you have done nothing wrong, you will be talking differently then.
To get back to your fixing the problem:
I hope flashing your phone will solve it, but I am afraid it will not, I cannot imagine how software gets screwed up by water damage. Though if it does solve it, great work!
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I would suggest you search that yourself: Protected against the effect of immersion between 15cm and 1m
This means it can be submerged according to IP67. I hope you drop your phone in water and it dies while you have done nothing wrong, you will be talking differently then.
To get back to your fixing the problem:
I hope flashing your phone will solve it, but I am afraid it will not, I cannot imagine how software gets screwed up by water damage. Though if it does solve it, great work!
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I have. And I'm smarter than the both of you as my phone is well protected do keep on wishing. Just because it's IP67 I won't go under water just to watch a TV show. But you can do whatever you want with your phone, just don't come here and talk nonsense.
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barondebxl said:
I have. And I'm smarter than the both of you as my phone is well protected do keep on wishing. Just because it's IP67 I won't go under water just to watch a TV show. But you can do whatever you want with your phone, just don't come here and talk nonsense.
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So, you seem to like avoiding the real message in my reply to avoid having to admit you do not understand a thing you say and then you say you are smarter than us? What kind of a child are you and what meds are you on? You were rudely saying I had to search wat IP67 means while you clearly have no clue yourself and on top of that are blaming someone that does something to his phone that it is supposed to be able to do he shouldn't have done (seeing your level of IQ you probably don't understand a thing I have said here) and then aren't brave enough to admit you were wrong. Ahhh well, no point in trying to educate ignorant/arrogant people like you.
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So, you seem to like avoiding the real message in my reply to avoid having to admit you do not understand a thing you say and then you say you are smarter than us? What kind of a child are you and what meds are you on? You were rudely saying I had to search wat IP67 means while you clearly have no clue yourself and on top of that are blaming someone that does something to his phone that it is supposed to be able to do he shouldn't have done (seeing your level of IQ you probably don't understand a thing I have said here) and then aren't brave enough to admit you were wrong. Ahhh well, no point in trying to educate ignorant/arrogant people like you.
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Don't be mad man, you sound ridiculous. You really thing I'm here to debate tou? If I don't know about IP67 then how come I explained to OP in my first reply? Wish all you want, I'm just a little smarter than the 2 of you and I won't just go in water to watch a TV show. But again, you can do that if it's your cup of tea. Just don't come here and cry because you don't know your stuff
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barondebxl said:
Don't be mad man, you sound ridiculous. You really thing I'm here to debate tou? If I don't know about IP67 then how come I explained to OP in my first reply? Wish all you want, I'm just a little smarter than the 2 of you and I won't just go in water to watch a TV show. But again, you can do that if it's your cup of tea. Just don't come here and cry because you don't know your stuff
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You assume too much, I haven't done anything like that, but if it were ever to happen and the phone breaks, I can comfortably know that Samsung will be the one to pay for repairs since consumer rights are pretty clear here in the Netherlands. No idea what makes you think you are smarter than I am since you do not even know what you are responding to here.
johan81 said:
You assume too much, I haven't done anything like that, but if it were ever to happen and the phone breaks, I can comfortably know that Samsung will be the one to pay for repairs since consumer rights are pretty clear here in the Netherlands. No idea what makes you think you are smarter than I am since you do not even know what you are responding to here.
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Right. Since you're speaking for op I guess I'm speaking to you. Consumers have rights but to a certain extent. Samsung won't entertain stupidity. Google ip67.
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johan81 said:
I would suggest you search that yourself: Protected against the effect of immersion between 15cm and 1m
This means it can be submerged according to IP67. I hope you drop your phone in water and it dies while you have done nothing wrong, you will be talking differently then.
To get back to your fixing the problem:
I hope flashing your phone will solve it, but I am afraid it will not, I cannot imagine how software gets screwed up by water damage. Though if it does solve it, great work!
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Yeah, I realize that more than likely it's a hardware issue. But since the only operational path I have is Download mode, I just want to exhaust all options and at the least find clues on what is actually failing
Well I'm on my way to RadioShack. Let's see what they say.
barondebxl said:
Right. Since you're speaking for op I guess I'm speaking to you. Consumers have rights but to a certain extent. Samsung won't entertain stupidity. Google ip67.
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This shows you are making assumptions without reading what is in front of you, again, you search IP67 since you are the one that doesn't know what it means, from previous experiences with you, you assume to know something you do not.
Yesterday I used my z3c underwater for 15 min around; in starting it works well but after some time screen gone black shut down with 1 blink .Now its not starting on; tried dry up but no luck.Finally in morning I called sony customer care with hope of replacement but they only logged a job for fonebiz service provider and asked me to despatch my phone to their mentioned address via post.I did trust on Sony that phone is waterproof that i used underwater but failed.Even before use underwater i double check my flap and did pressure test.
Now i am sending my phone to fonebiz guys; god know what they will do assessment.Anyone face this issue??
Anyone got replacement or money back?
Imo you should change your title (not possible, but still).
Your Z3C isn't waterproof, many other people had no problems whatsoever.
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You made sure all the flaps were shut right?...
I took mine down a waterside on video
Worked beautifully
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Dsteppa said:
Imo you should change your title (not possible, but still).
Your Z3C isn't waterproof, many other people had no problems whatsoever.
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Agreed, should read "Underwater failure ... My Z3C is not waterproof
Everyone should do the pressure test (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56153139&postcount=46) before taking in water and sending it for warranty if it fails the test.
I followed the all guided instruction before went underwater; Pressure test, flap covered check n all.
there was no human error; this case is totally failure of underwater test of z3c. I took phone underwater on trusting on the big brand name SONY but totally upset
[email protected] said:
I followed the all guided instruction before went underwater; Pressure test, flap covered check n all.
there was no human error; this case is totally failure of underwater test of z3c. I took phone underwater on trusting on the big brand name SONY but totally upset
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Yr fault for not obviously checking problem
All I can say is shame
muzab a said:
Yr fault for not obviously checking problem
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Why should it be his fault?
Duplicate thread in Q&A section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-...-failure-z3c-waterproof-t2934843/post56630493
So THREAD CLOSED
Hi guys,
These forums has helped me a lot so here I am trying to give something back. So here's what happened.
I have just received my Z3C from the Sony service centre as the waterproofness of this phone is sadly, not that reliable. I went swimming in a river with this phone while taking pictures and shooting videos, and the next thing I know. Bam, the screen goes dark and the phone was dead. I did not submerge it for a long period of time either. I took underwater videos for around 2-3 minutes and I resurface it again. It worked flawlessly for the first 2 videos but the third time is really not the charm. I thought the battery was dead at first but later that night when i tried to charge it, i saw water vapours inside the lens and that was when I realised the horror that I am in.
I did secure the two flaps many times before diving into the water so its not an issue of carelessness. The incident also happened after 1 and a half months after I owned the phone so I don't think the integrity of the rubber flaps would have been compromised by constant opening and closing for charging by then. If it is, then it is another thing that we should be worried about.
What I think happened was the current in the river (although not strong) might have had an effect on the integrity of the rubber flaps and caused the leak. I have submerged my Z3C in the bath tub a couple of times before and it was fine. However, the currents of the river might not be that forgiving towards the phone. THEREFORE, I urge caution towards my fellow Z3C users when taking it towards watery places as you might taste the same tears of disappointment just as I had.
Don't get me wrong, the phone is awesome, and I still love it very much, but lets just say that I will not be putting it even near a glass of water next time around. Hope this post can help save a few people from suffering the same fate as I am in the future.
Thank You.
Curious if you're going to make a warranty claim. The waterproof feature is a Catch-22: there's no way to substantiate the user's claim that the flaps were all properly sealed, so Sony will say that water intrusion was due to carelessness.
I washed my phone under tap and screen went after 20 min black.
Then I vacuumed the hell out of it, both flaps open, one connected to the vacuum cleaner.
Flap markers were white btw.
After vacuuming screen was alive again, but digitizer was dead.
Warranty service accepted the phone, no problem with that, but they couldn't fix it.
At first after the screen change, the vol up didn't work.
So I sent it back, when I got it mic didn't work: my calls had noise and voice wasn't audible, plus other party got his own echo back. Without noise supression It was usable.
Sent it back, but after returning mic was still broken, vibrator didn't work and pressure test showed only +-1mbar (it should be about +-10mbar) so it wasn't waterproof anymore.
I made a complaint and got a new phone.
All that back and forth took about 6 weeks.
This is just bad luck. You have a faulty unit. Mine is working fine after some movies into the pool, soda spilled all over it, etc. Thanks for the friendly warning
waterPOOF
A friendly reminder:
Just don't use the phone on any type of water, though it can survive on the rain but as far as i concern, i don't trust the waterproof/water resist of xperia. Don't also use water to cooloff your phone if it overheats. Remove any protective case and cool it down for a minute.
For more protection, you can look for a waterproof pouch with double zip lock if you want to use the phone in watery place. I always use that kind of pouch and i can still shoot nice photos.
Some Info regarding Waterproof and Water Resistant [HERE]
hey,
i got my phone when it came out and washed it every other week with tap water. last week it suddenly turned itself off 20 minutes after i washed it. it kept turning off with three vibrations. after a day i could start it again. two days later the touchscreen didn't work in the center stripe. i sent it in and got a new phone after 3 days. just setting it up right now
i'm disappointed but also happy. anyway, just ordering two new phones for my family which makes it #3 and 4.
so yes, it's not perfectly water proof, but the service was ok (after 3 calls).
cheers,
thobi
kentaurest said:
I washed my phone under tap and screen went after 20 min black.
Then I vacuumed the hell out of it, both flaps open, one connected to the vacuum cleaner.
Flap markers were white btw.
After vacuuming screen was alive again, but digitizer was dead.
Warranty service accepted the phone, no problem with that, but they couldn't fix it.
At first after the screen change, the vol up didn't work.
So I sent it back, when I got it mic didn't work: my calls had noise and voice wasn't audible, plus other party got his own echo back. Without noise supression It was usable.
Sent it back, but after returning mic was still broken, vibrator didn't work and pressure test showed only +-1mbar (it should be about +-10mbar) so it wasn't waterproof anymore.
I made a complaint and got a new phone.
All that back and forth took about 6 weeks.
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Oh wow, to think that someone had actually suffered the same fate as I am. For the warranty claim, I did sent it back for repairs but after I got back, it just came back with more problems. As a result I had to send and resend the phone for a total of 3 times. In the end, I also requested a new phone and they did agree to it (After countless phone calls and arguments). However, the overall process took me over 4 months (no kidding) and god knows how I feel during that time. Not every country's Sony service centre was excellent and mine was particularly bad. Still, I'm glad you could get a new one for your troubles as well .
People,
I have an old z3c, second hand, with back cover replaced by my self and a shabby flap.
Trust me, I am a perfect unconscious without care for his own things.
This to say that I'm used to clean my phone under tap water, and during these holidays, I make some videos under river and waterfall, and also a lot of photo and video under the sea!
Yes, I'm unconscious and luky, but just to say that not all z3c are defective in waterproof
When a phone or anything says ''water proof'' to me that means ''Slightly better than water resistant''
I dont ever intend to submerge my Z3C in water. To me it just adds a little bit of peace of mind when it comes to spills or accidental submersion and a quick pull out of water.
thobi3 said:
hey,
i got my phone when it came out and washed it every other week with tap water. last week it suddenly turned itself off 20 minutes after i washed it. it kept turning off with three vibrations. after a day i could start it again. two days later the touchscreen didn't work in the center stripe. i sent it in and got a new phone after 3 days. just setting it up right now
i'm disappointed but also happy. anyway, just ordering two new phones for my family which makes it #3 and 4.
so yes, it's not perfectly water proof, but the service was ok (after 3 calls).
cheers,
thobi
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Why wash it every week? haha..
I also met this problem last week. It was not really water-proof.
I only washed it for 30 seconds and the screen went dead. I send it to the support to repair it, after they check it they found it is impossible to repair. Hopeful they send me a new one back. I swear this time I will never trust its water proof.
One thing i have noticed about the seals under the flaps. They need to be carefully cleaned BEFORE you close up the flap. Not a problem for the one over the SIM card as its rare to open this.
Major issue i think for the one over the USB port. I have usually found that after opening there are "bits" in there where they can interfere with the seal. They accumulate on the phone and case in normal use, and then drop in when you open the flap.
I use a magnetic charger and really only use the USB for large file transfers from or to the PC, and under my PC screen i have a good quality paintbrush and i check to make sure no hairs get left behind.
The seal just slides in much like a lot of "tough" cameras. Pressing the flap in hard makes no difference. The seal and mating surface must be clean and smooth.
Enough!!!
I have read so many different posts about this phone not being waterproof and it really has to stop!
I have had my Sony Xperia Z3 Compact since november last year and I have no idea about how many times it has been under water...
This phone is sold to be waterproof!
There are countless of commercials from Sony showing the phone used under water!
If the phone gets damaged because it has been under water it is a warranty issue (if you have not closed the flaps... ) because you have a faulty unit - they do exist you know, but that does not mean that all Z3C are faulty...
You can use this phone down to 1,5 meters depth for 30 minutes without being afraid of anything - the phone is WATERPROOF...
I have many underwater videos and photos - what's else to do when you get bored when you are out fishing...?
This is taken with my Z3 Compact in Norway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZRAL7Tcln0
Just use your phone... :good:
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Foxhunter123 said:
Enough!!!
I have read so many different posts about this phone not being waterproof and it really has to stop!
I have had my Sony Xperia Z3 Compact since november last year and I have no idea about how many times it has been under water...
This phone is sold to be waterproof!
There are countless of commercials from Sony showing the phone used under water!
If the phone gets damaged because it has been under water it is a warranty issue (if you have not closed the flaps... ) because you have a faulty unit - they do exist you know, but that does not mean that all Z3C are faulty...
You can use this phone down to 1,5 meters depth for 30 minutes without being afraid of anything - the phone is WATERPROOF...
I have many underwater videos and photos - what's else to do when you get bored when you are out fishing...?
This is taken with my Z3 Compact in Norway:
Just use your phone... :good:
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The fact that you have read countless post about this phone being not waterproof just proved my point. I did not post this just so I can diss the Z3C. It is a great phone and I have submerged and wash it under the tap water before and it worked fine. But with time (1 moth and a half) that is not so anymore. However, the purpose of this post is only to serve as a friendly WARNING for fellow Z3C users. If you have read my post and you still feel confident about its waterproofness when some commercial tells you so, then by all means submerge it as you please. I'm just here to exercise caution as I do not want others to suffer the same fate as I did. When your phone is breached by water, and your screen goes completely dark, dead and the warranty no longer covers it....Well, I hope you are a rich person :fingers-crossed:
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The fact that you have read countless post about this phone being not waterproof just proved my point. I did not post this just so I can diss the Z3C. It is a great phone and I have submerged and wash it under the tap water before and it worked fine. But with time (1 moth and a half) that is not so anymore. However, the purpose of this post is only to serve as a friendly WARNING for fellow Z3C users. If you have read my post and you still feel confident about its waterproofness when some commercial tells you so, then by all means submerge it as you please. I'm just here to exercise caution as I do not want others to suffer the same fate as I did. When your phone is breached by water, and your screen goes completely dark, dead and the warranty no longer covers it....Well, I hope you are a rich person :fingers-crossed:
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Well my point is that there are many threads (not countless... ) about this phone not being waterproof and that is just WRONG!
This phone is build to be waterproof, it is commercialized to be waterproof (and yes!!! when Sony focuses that much on how you can use this phone under water then you should also expect the phone to actually be waterproof...) and it is sold to be waterproof...
As long as the flaps are closed properly it is waterproof!
Every post about the phone not being waterproof is a warranty issue because it's a faulty unit.
It's very nice of you to come with this friendly warning but it's almost the same as saying to people, that they should not drive around on their bicycle because they might risk to get a puncture...
So far my phone has been under water many times - also in rivers with strong water - and there hasn't been any problems what so ever and if it should ever come to the day, that my phone breaks due to this usage then it will be a warranty issue because the phone is supposed to be waterproof... :good:
As long as the flaps are closed properly it is waterproof!
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The problem is imo in the rear glass or screen sealing which starts leaking over time.
Markers under the flaps were white when my phone died after washing under the tap.
Foxhunter123 said:
Enough!!!
I have read so many different posts about this phone not being waterproof and it really has to stop!
I have had my Sony Xperia Z3 Compact since november last year and I have no idea about how many times it has been under water...
This phone is sold to be waterproof!
There are countless of commercials from Sony showing the phone used under water!
If the phone gets damaged because it has been under water it is a warranty issue (if you have not closed the flaps... ) because you have a faulty unit - they do exist you know, but that does not mean that all Z3C are faulty...
You can use this phone down to 1,5 meters depth for 30 minutes without being afraid of anything - the phone is WATERPROOF...
I have many underwater videos and photos - what's else to do when you get bored when you are out fishing...?
This is taken with my Z3 Compact in Norway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZRAL7Tcln0
Just use your phone... :good:
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Well, so much for SONY standing behind the waterproof claim:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/09/10/sony-changes-stance-on-waterproof-phones-do-not-use-underwater/
This is technically the right thing for Sony to do, but it sure is complete BS that they wait until after they sell millions of these under false pretenses.
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Well I will still continue using my phone under water... Sony sold this phone to be waterproof and just because a tech site brings an article about problems it doesn't mean that the normal user should have heard about it...
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Well I will still continue using my phone under water... Sony sold this phone to be waterproof and just because a tech site brings an article about problems it doesn't mean that the normal user should have heard about it...
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I agree, but the tech site is doing what Sony isn't, and that's being transparent with this new info. Song is basically making changes to its warranty and support policy without informing the customer. If something does happen to our phones, then Sony will say it's not covered because of this fine print.
If HTC ever makes another compact flagship, Sony would lose me as a customer.
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well, add me to the list of people who lost their phone to water damage.
I made the pressure test before entering in a small lake and it all looked alright. after taking some pictures the screen started switching itself on and off.. I immediately switched the phone off, took out the memory and sim cards, left the flaps open and put in in a dry place. Once I got home I put it in a bowl of rice (which is supposed to absorb the remaining humidity) but after a night it still wouldn't switch on.
I have used the phone under water on several occasions before, so it's not that it was faulty from the beginning. What I noticed is that on the inside of the flaps there is a small rubber sealing, which came off almost by itself when I opened the flap to get the water out.. I guess that could be the issue.
Farewell to the z3c forums, I won't spend another 400 bucks on a z3c so for the time being, I'll revert my old s4 mini..
Damn... That's a shame. Time has passed since the swimming pool photos campaigns of the Z series...
www.engadget.com/2015/09/11/sony-xp...e=dlvr.it&utm_campaign=Engadget&ncid=rss_semi
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There never was full immersion water proof. If your phone got wet inside, sony just stated that phone flaps wasnt closed properly before immersion.
I think it was south africa who denied sony to adverdise z1 as phone that you can fully immersion to water
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Well, it's a long discussion of what was and what wasn't. Some phones were definitely waterproof and Sony undeniably marketed their Z line at least as fit for taking underwater photos. My zr swam under water with no issues. But it's also true that many people had ruined their Xperias like that. This is the first time Sony actually says: don't put it under water. And it's a shame.
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I think waterproofness has not changed at all, only sonys guarantee
I wanna buy this phone, are you sure it isn't waterproof? I had an Xperia Go which is not a very good phone, but anyway I used to throw it in the pool and nothing happened. I'm also curious if you can take under water photos with this phone.
I have seen videos on YouTube of people putting it in a glass of water and I have read that some people's phones (regarding earlier z generations) were not waterproof while other's were.
I have not dared to try it myself but I think it is as mele80 said.
I view it as a safety net to protect against accidental spillages and unpredictable weather rather than a feature designed to be intentionally exploited. I don't intend on purposely testing out the waterproofing capabilities!
Again misleading topic But z5c is still waterproof just use it with care..
RiTCHiE007 said:
Again misleading topic But z5c is still waterproof just use it with care..
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Excuse me, what's misleading about it?
- marketing campaign clearly showing Z series (before z4) being submerged and taking underwater photos
- accidents happen to quite a few phones (some might have been submerged without proper cap attachment but I'm sure you don't believe all Xperia users are stupid enough to forget a simple gesture such as attaching the caps)
- Sony saying now you should not submerge the phones.
That's what the thread is about, and these are all facts.
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Damn... That's a shame. Time has passed since the swimming pool photos campaigns of the Z series...
www.engadget.com/2015/09/11/sony-xp...e=dlvr.it&utm_campaign=Engadget&ncid=rss_semi
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Just watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2jSk_5uKY
RiTCHiE007 said:
Just watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2jSk_5uKY
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Let me know when you do the same
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Disclaimers:
*The Xperia Z5 Compact is waterproof and protected against dust, so don’t worry if you get caught in the rain or want to wash off dirt under a tap, but remember: all ports and attached covers should be firmly closed. You should not put the device completely underwater or expose it to seawater, salt water, chlorinated water or liquids such as drinks. Abuse and improper use of device will invalidate warranty. The device has Ingress Protection rating IP65/68. For more info see www.sonymobile.com/waterproof. Note: the Xperia™ has a capless USB port to connect and charge. The USB port needs to be completely dry before charging.
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I think we are safe to use or have the phone under the shower and all that.
But don't submerge it in water with soap/foam (in a bathtub), chlorinated water (swimming pool) or even potable water if you are living in a zone with a lot of calcium (bathtub / glass of tap water. Just look at your pans to know about this). If it is a more alkaline water, it would be less risky.
Of course we can do this for a short time to film a video or something. But there are risks.
thesebastian said:
I think we are safe to use or have the phone under the shower and all that.
But don't submerge it in water with soap/foam (in a bathtub), chlorinated water (swimming pool) or even potable water if you are living in a zone with a lot of calcium (bathtub / glass of tap water. Just look at your pans to know about this). If it is a more alkaline water, it would be less risky.
Of course we can do this for a short time to film a video or something. But there are risks.
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No there is no risk if you take care of your phone. The phone should be good when the water pressure dont get above 1.5bar so aslong as you dont go in flowing water or dive with it, it should be fine.
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Let me know when you do the same
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Why? Thats why we have youtube so we dont need to do the same.
RiTCHiE007 said:
No there is no risk if you take care of your phone. The phone should be good when the water pressure dont get above 1.5bar so aslong as you dont go in flowing water or dive with it, it should be fine.
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Why? Thats why we have youtube so we dont need to do the same.
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Ah, so the phone is waterproof only on YouTube? That makes sense.
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Ah, so the phone is waterproof only on YouTube? That makes sense.
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No it makes more sense if you use your brain. Youtube is just a sample of what the phone can do so its not only waterproof on youtube but also IRL.
RiTCHiE007 said:
No there is no risk if you take care of your phone. The phone should be good when the water pressure dont get above 1.5bar so aslong as you dont go in flowing water or dive with it, it should be fine.
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The problem is that this 1.5bar figure is for normal tap water.
Everything what thesebastian mentioned lowers this figure. Soap lowers surface tension so soapy water can get past the seals at lower pressure. Salt and chlor can damage seals which lowers the maximum pressure they can take permanently. Water is not = water.
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Youtube is just a sample of what the phone can do so its not only waterproof on youtube but also IRL.
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It is the reverse actually.
Example: A youtube video of a phone falling 2 meters and not breaking.
Would you take that as proof they the phone in question will not break under such conditions?
No, of course not. It just means that it there is a *possibility* of it not breaking after a 2m fall. This is precisely because the youtube video is a sample of "what the phone can do". It cannot show the whole picture - and other possibilities what the "phone can do" is "break after the fall".
Same with the dunking video. The question is not if it can get damaged by water, that one is already answered. 100% waterproof does not exist. Even if the phone is normally 100% waterproof, there is always the chance of defects.
So question is the probability of it getting water damage. That chance can be any number- 0,001%, 1%, 5%, 25% or 75%. A youtube video of a single device getting submerged cannot show this.
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The problem is that this 1.5bar figure is for normal tap water.
Everything what thesebastian mentioned lowers this figure. Soap lowers surface tension so soapy water can get past the seals at lower pressure. Salt and chlor can damage seals which lowers the maximum pressure they can take permanently. Water is not = water.
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It is the reverse actually.
Example: A youtube video of a phone falling 2 meters and not breaking.
Would you take that as proof they the phone in question will not break under such conditions?
No, of course not. It just means that it there is a *possibility* of it not breaking after a 2m fall. This is precisely because the youtube video is a sample of "what the phone can do". It cannot show the whole picture - and other possibilities what the "phone can do" is "break after the fall".
Same with the dunking video. The question is not if it can get damaged by water, that one is already answered. 100% waterproof does not exist. Even if the phone is normally 100% waterproof, there is always the chance of defects.
So question is the probability of it getting water damage. That chance can be any number- 0,001%, 1%, 5%, 25% or 75%. A youtube video of a single device getting submerged cannot show this.
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Well i said youtube gives you a sample of whats possible and if you take care of your phone then you can use it in all sorts of different water types aslong as you clean it after. But the point is that not everyone uses their brain and think it can handle all without doing some checking etc before you gonna do it like check testmode and see if its waterproof before you dip it into water. Problem is that people use it in flowing water etc that raises the water pressure or go diving with it. I tried it so many times with my z3c and never had 1 problem even in salt water alsong as you clean it.
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Well i said youtube gives you a sample of whats possible and if you take care of your phone then you can use it in all sorts of different water types aslong as you clean it after. But the point is that not everyone uses their brain and think it can handle all without doing some checking etc before you gonna do it like check testmode and see if its waterproof before you dip it into water. Problem is that people use it in flowing water etc that raises the water pressure or go diving with it. I tried it so many times with my z3c and never had 1 problem even in salt water alsong as you clean it.
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Which means that you use your brain and everyone else who got their phones screwed after dunking them didn't use their brain. Impressive.
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Which means that you use your brain and everyone else who got their phones screwed after dunking them didn't use their brain. Impressive.
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No thats not what im saying but the thing is you will always hear first from people that screw up some how or got a bad device and still went under water. Like 99% of the people that have a good working device with no problems are less eager to start a topic or to respond to a topic. And yes you will always have some people that take it to far and those are the ones that dont think before they do anything.
Note that the water coming from the shower might be more than 1.5 bar.
Moving the phone in water might make the relative pressure more than 1.5bar.
It's the same problem with watch. The pressure of specifications are intend for non moving stuff in non moving water. It's like when you put your and thru the windows of a running car, the air is at normal pressure but on your hand, you feel the resistance increase with speed.