Hey guys,
Just updated to the x10 after my samsung galaxy died on me, so far i am rather happy - except for the lack of root, but that will come.
I have noticed many complaints on the forum about battery life, and have experienced the same thing myself. From my experience, i think this looks like the same issue that was faced on a leak of 1.6 for the galaxy - it was referred to as the "No Sleep Bug".
TBH, the name says it all - for some reason, in many builds of android 1.6, phones were not sleeping correctly. There are many theories as to why, from cpu not being allowed to sleep, to permanent communication with google servers.
Despite all these different theories, one thing seemed to fix the problem - turning off all location services. Some people argue that a different carrier build, turning off just 'share with google' under location, turning off just AGPS etc. would fix it, but from my experience, the only real way to fix the issue was to turn off all GPS usage unless you need it. The once you have used it, reboot your phone.
This fix obviously sucks, and a new fix has recently been released by a veritable android-demigod around the Galaxy.
HERE IS A THREAD ABOUT NO SLEEP ON i7500 GALAXY;
(ok, some stupid rule says i can't post links - can a mod help me out?)
HERE IS THE FIX FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUG;
(ok, some stupid rule says i can't post links - can a mod help me out?)
LINKS ARE IN POST #5 - THANKS TO ONDOTEAM (would still be nice to get them in this original post though)
Now, from my experience, no sleep behave exactly the same way on the x10 as it does on the Galaxy;
1) I turn of all location services, and my battery life at least doubles.
2) After said turning off of services, 'spare parts' no longer says 100% running time under battery usage - in fact it can be as low as 10%.
These two factors are identical to my experience with Galaxy. SO; is there any way drakaz's fix can be applied to our X10's? It seems to me that the files he mods are standard Android system files, not sony/samsung specific.
Now i am no developer, so i dont know it this is possible - the first question that comes to mind for me is "do we need root access, or can this be done through developer tools using the android SDK?"
Can anyone help shed anymore light on this?
Seems to work for me. I disabled all location services. Spare Parts went down from 100% to 7.6%.
I'll just have to enable GPS when I need to use it..
Awesome! Glad to hear it has helped.
Let's keep testing this guys - if it does show up to be a big cause, then perhaps the devs around this place can help is figure out a patch for Drakas' mod to make it work with our x10's!
n3man said:
Awesome! Glad to hear it has helped.
Let's keep testing this guys - if it does show up to be a big cause, then perhaps the devs around this place can help is figure out a patch for Drakas' mod to make it work with our x10's!
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Hello send me a PM with links, I will try to post it
http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/61168-no-sleep-has-nothing-do-anything.html
http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/78471-no-sleep-bug-fixed-drakaz.html
Links from n3man
No sleep is easy to fix, took me a while to figure it...
Turn your screen brightness from manual to auto, spare parts will now start showing proper running stats, no more 100% running.
The screen is a little dark in auto but it will cure the 100% running.
GPS and location services etc make no difference to my X10i, I am running the 1.6 version unbranded UK handset, the only thing to stop mine running 100% is to put the screen on Auto.
ronnyuk said:
No sleep is easy to fix, took me a while to figure it...
Turn your screen brightness from manual to auto, spare parts will now start showing proper running stats, no more 100% running.
The screen is a little dark in auto but it will cure the 100% running.
GPS and location services etc make no difference to my X10i, I am running the 1.6 version unbranded UK handset, the only thing to stop mine running 100% is to put the screen on Auto.
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LOL... this is already going the way of the Galaxy thread!
My phone came out of the box with auto-brightness and i never changed that option, yet i still had no sleep.
Drakaz has done some fairly deep digging and is next to certain that it is an artefact of the geolocation bug discussed in the thread in which the problem was fixed.
I can't see "Spare Parts" in About Phone -> Battery Info
tuxStyle said:
I can't see "Spare Parts" in About Phone -> Battery Info
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Me neither.. I was wondering about that myself!..
Although I'd half assumed that they were referring to the total "up-time" figure which you can see at the bottom of the "about phone"; "Status" screen.. But perhaps not.?
Spare Parts is a standalone Program ...
(i don't know for sure if it is in the market or downloadable as .apk from somewhere here in the forum ...)
Bax
im_iceman said:
Me neither.. I was wondering about that myself!..
Although I'd half assumed that they were referring to the total "up-time" figure which you can see at the bottom of the "about phone"; "Status" screen.. But perhaps not.?
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You can download it here
Spare parts is indeed available from the market - it is a much more powerful tool for indicating battery usage than the regular android methods. The galaxy stared on 1.5 which had NO indicator of battery usage statistics at all, so we all learned about spare parts very fast.
Perhaps that is why no x10 users have realised about the potential no sleep bug; because so far only the android usage indicators have been used?...
Anyway, hopefully this can help us all understand the way our phones are working better together
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Spare parts is indeed available from the market - it is a much more powerful tool for indicating battery usage than the regular android methods. The galaxy stared on 1.5 which had NO indicator of battery usage statistics at all, so we all learned about spare parts very fast.
Perhaps that is why no x10 users have realised about the potential no sleep bug; because so far only the android usage indicators have been used?...
Anyway, hopefully this can help us all understand the way our phones are working better together
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14% it's mine value for running time, not 100%. By the way thats 30 minutes of 210 in total :S
I'm also experiencing "No sleep bug" after i used GPS. I use Battery Graph to plot my power consumption and after I use GPS, I can clearly see that power consumption is high even if i turn the phone in plane mode.
In addition SE widget, used to turn on/off GPS, seems to not work very well for me. So, to fix the bug, i manually disable GPS in parameter menu and restart my phone. After that power consumption is hardly null (20% in 8h with MP3 on almost all the time).
mimok said:
I'm also experiencing "No sleep bug" after i used GPS. I use Battery Graph to plot my power consumption and after I use GPS, I can clearly see that power consumption is high even if i turn the phone in plane mode.
In addition SE widget, used to turn on/off GPS, seems to not work very well for me. So, to fix the bug, i manually disable GPS in parameter menu and restart my phone. After that power consumption is hardly null (20% in 8h with MP3 on almost all the time).
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Do you have 3G always on?
My phone has no trouble sleeping.
Gps hasn't really been an issue but I keep it off when not needed.
Here's my solid settings:
1) No auto sync
2) No moxier
3) Gps off
4) Restart after using wireless
As long as it's like this my phone lasts 2 days easily
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Do you have 3G always on?
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Yes, but I made a lot of test with and without 3G enabled and 3G seems not to be a problem for me. I think my problem comes from GPS.
ondoteam said:
Do you have 3G always on?
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3G always on.
n3man said:
LOL... this is already going the way of the Galaxy thread!
My phone came out of the box with auto-brightness and i never changed that option, yet i still had no sleep.
Drakaz has done some fairly deep digging and is next to certain that it is an artefact of the geolocation bug discussed in the thread in which the problem was fixed.
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I have been playing with mine for a month to work out what caused mine to not go into sleep, I keep GPS wifi etc on 24/7 but in spare parts I was running 100%, after numerous reinstalls and removing everything i chanced on turning on auto screen brightness, now when i unplug my x10 the running sits at the correct level.
No Geolocation bug here
I have this problem with 100% on and off. Sometimes when I check its under control (~10%), other times its at 100%. I have GPS off, no WiFi, auto brightness... don't know why it sometimes just gets stuck at 100% :/
I found a thread about the focus not being able to stay awake, even when plugged in, but nothing to resolve it. Just wanted to bring it up again just to make sure there isn't a way to keep my phone on for more than 5 min...think there's alot of us out here who want this....
Thanks
If you know that keep your phone stay awake will quickly burn whatever is on your AMOLED screen permanantly to your screen, do you still want to do it? Even 5 minutes is too much. Keep the screen off as soon as possible.
If I thought that was true then I might be worried, but I have had my focus since they came out and have had it set for 5 min the whole time and my screen has no evidence of "burn in"
There are plenty of burn in threads already, both here and general wp7 forum.
The blue pixels have a life span of a few thousand to a little over 10,000 hours (Samsung didn't publish the specs). You can caculate that to see how long your blue channels on the screen will go noticeably dim than other channels (which last much longer).
Hey, there is this registry tweak you can use to add the "never" option in the settings. They chose to hide this from us though, so be warned. I have tried it and my screen does get pretty hot if I have the brightness way up. But I've done that before playing a gm for 3+ hrs at a time so... It's up to you. Here is the tweak you need:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Lock]
"DisableNever"=dword:0
**Basically, just change the value of DisableNever to 0 - I'd look into getting WP7 Root Tools onto your phone to help you along as well.
Thanks, I appreciate it...at least I have the choice now....
Already asked in the ' The Great Battery Life Impression ' Thread, but due to lots of traffic in there, would turn out your post un noticed.
Anyway, I have tried several roms and kernels, I cant bypass the 1:30 screen on time. At the time people saying they get 3+ hours of screen time. I am using the same apps I have used on my S3, or my Gnex, where I used to get 3 hours on there! What could be it ? My only fear is? are there faulty Nexus4's ? this is my fourth day with the device.
Hey all,
Thanks for looking at this in advance.
Total Droid noob here...I purchased my first android device about 2 weeks ago, a Galaxy S5 on AT&T (Love it!)
Needless to say, I haven't really done much of anything out of the ordinary with it.
I've installed a few official Apps from the Play Store and nothing else. No custom roms, no random apps/packages from the web, etc.
Just today, my phone was sitting idle (asleep) next to me as it always does at my desk. I looked at it to check the battery and it showed about 51%. No issue at all with that...I used to it to read my RSS feeds, listen to Spotify, and a bunch of other things on my way into work.
However, maybe a little over an hour or so, I went back to check on it...and the device was completely off.
0% battery, completely drained...
I was baffled, but this was the second time I had seen this happen. The first time it I ignored it, figuring I was just drunk or something. But now, I feel like I'm going crazy!
A friend told me to check the 'Battery' info inside Settings.
Granted Instagram was high on that list, using like 14% of battery or whatever...but thats not what struck me. It was the graph depicting the battery use (SEE ATTACHED)
Notice that it went from ~30% to 0 pretty much instantly
Basically, I'm coming on here as a noob with a few questions:
is this normal? is this known? is there a solution? should I return my phone?
Thanks a ton for any help you all can provide.
Please let me know if you need any more information, screenshots, etc.
Nothing to worry about, mate. Stuff like that does happen time to time. It may have been miscalibration on the software part. If the problem persists, than you shoul check for the battery malfunction.
Regardless of the platform, sometimes an app misbehaves and causes abnormal battery usage.
When you notice your battery level decreasing at an alarming rate when idling, reboot the phone and it should be fine.
just2jays said:
Hey all,
Thanks for looking at this in advance.
Total Droid noob here...I purchased my first android device about 2 weeks ago, a Galaxy S5 on AT&T (Love it!)
Needless to say, I haven't really done much of anything out of the ordinary with it.
I've installed a few official Apps from the Play Store and nothing else. No custom roms, no random apps/packages from the web, etc.
Just today, my phone was sitting idle (asleep) next to me as it always does at my desk. I looked at it to check the battery and it showed about 51%. No issue at all with that...I used to it to read my RSS feeds, listen to Spotify, and a bunch of other things on my way into work.
However, maybe a little over an hour or so, I went back to check on it...and the device was completely off.
0% battery, completely drained...
I was baffled, but this was the second time I had seen this happen. The first time it I ignored it, figuring I was just drunk or something. But now, I feel like I'm going crazy!
A friend told me to check the 'Battery' info inside Settings.
Granted Instagram was high on that list, using like 14% of battery or whatever...but thats not what struck me. It was the graph depicting the battery use (SEE ATTACHED)
Notice that it went from ~30% to 0 pretty much instantly
Basically, I'm coming on here as a noob with a few questions:
is this normal? is this known? is there a solution? should I return my phone?
Thanks a ton for any help you all can provide.
Please let me know if you need any more information, screenshots, etc.
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I am from another device (Sony Xperia Z1) and I suffer the same problem with you bro. Still figuring how to fix this. This is freaking me out. :crying:
Hi all, just came here from many days spent on S3...
To get to the thing, recently I bought myself a shiny new G2, stock kitkat 4.4.2, and the problem is, Android OS is showing Stay Awake very very long.
I tried disabling almost everything, from nfc, motion, knock on, all the 'smart' features, wifi, mobile data, and the phone still doesn't sleep normaly.
Currently, it is on 73%, 1:54h Screen on time, 4:54h on battery and 3:20h Android OS stay awake.
What could be the problem? I tried googling but nothing, and i see many users have this problem.
I'm still cathing up with the LG community so point me out if I am missing something.
And oh, I don't want to root it yet, I wouldn't be asking this question, BBS could solve my problem, but, if it is a common problem to almost 70% users out there, someone could know the answer.
Cheers!
Is WiFi Scanning off? (Settings>WiFi>Advanced; untick 'WiFi scanning always available')
LooseSeal said:
Is WiFi Scanning off? (Settings>WiFi>Advanced; untick 'WiFi scanning always available')
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Yup, it is...
To note, Screen on time is really good, approx 3h on 50%, which equals approx. 5:30-6h of SoT, but the phone sleeps bad, the apps running in the background are Facebook, Whatsapp and Viber, almost all Lg bloatware is freezed, and i really don't have idea what the heck could use the phone when locked.
I read somewhere that LG's battery stats are a bit different than by other vendors, maybe that's the cause, i simply don't know, it's hard to know when unrooted.