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Hey guys,
Just updated to the x10 after my samsung galaxy died on me, so far i am rather happy - except for the lack of root, but that will come.
I have noticed many complaints on the forum about battery life, and have experienced the same thing myself. From my experience, i think this looks like the same issue that was faced on a leak of 1.6 for the galaxy - it was referred to as the "No Sleep Bug".
TBH, the name says it all - for some reason, in many builds of android 1.6, phones were not sleeping correctly. There are many theories as to why, from cpu not being allowed to sleep, to permanent communication with google servers.
Despite all these different theories, one thing seemed to fix the problem - turning off all location services. Some people argue that a different carrier build, turning off just 'share with google' under location, turning off just AGPS etc. would fix it, but from my experience, the only real way to fix the issue was to turn off all GPS usage unless you need it. The once you have used it, reboot your phone.
This fix obviously sucks, and a new fix has recently been released by a veritable android-demigod around the Galaxy.
HERE IS A THREAD ABOUT NO SLEEP ON i7500 GALAXY;
(ok, some stupid rule says i can't post links - can a mod help me out?)
HERE IS THE FIX FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUG;
(ok, some stupid rule says i can't post links - can a mod help me out?)
LINKS ARE IN POST #5 - THANKS TO ONDOTEAM (would still be nice to get them in this original post though)
Now, from my experience, no sleep behave exactly the same way on the x10 as it does on the Galaxy;
1) I turn of all location services, and my battery life at least doubles.
2) After said turning off of services, 'spare parts' no longer says 100% running time under battery usage - in fact it can be as low as 10%.
These two factors are identical to my experience with Galaxy. SO; is there any way drakaz's fix can be applied to our X10's? It seems to me that the files he mods are standard Android system files, not sony/samsung specific.
Now i am no developer, so i dont know it this is possible - the first question that comes to mind for me is "do we need root access, or can this be done through developer tools using the android SDK?"
Can anyone help shed anymore light on this?
Seems to work for me. I disabled all location services. Spare Parts went down from 100% to 7.6%.
I'll just have to enable GPS when I need to use it..
Awesome! Glad to hear it has helped.
Let's keep testing this guys - if it does show up to be a big cause, then perhaps the devs around this place can help is figure out a patch for Drakas' mod to make it work with our x10's!
n3man said:
Awesome! Glad to hear it has helped.
Let's keep testing this guys - if it does show up to be a big cause, then perhaps the devs around this place can help is figure out a patch for Drakas' mod to make it work with our x10's!
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Hello send me a PM with links, I will try to post it
http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/61168-no-sleep-has-nothing-do-anything.html
http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/78471-no-sleep-bug-fixed-drakaz.html
Links from n3man
No sleep is easy to fix, took me a while to figure it...
Turn your screen brightness from manual to auto, spare parts will now start showing proper running stats, no more 100% running.
The screen is a little dark in auto but it will cure the 100% running.
GPS and location services etc make no difference to my X10i, I am running the 1.6 version unbranded UK handset, the only thing to stop mine running 100% is to put the screen on Auto.
ronnyuk said:
No sleep is easy to fix, took me a while to figure it...
Turn your screen brightness from manual to auto, spare parts will now start showing proper running stats, no more 100% running.
The screen is a little dark in auto but it will cure the 100% running.
GPS and location services etc make no difference to my X10i, I am running the 1.6 version unbranded UK handset, the only thing to stop mine running 100% is to put the screen on Auto.
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LOL... this is already going the way of the Galaxy thread!
My phone came out of the box with auto-brightness and i never changed that option, yet i still had no sleep.
Drakaz has done some fairly deep digging and is next to certain that it is an artefact of the geolocation bug discussed in the thread in which the problem was fixed.
I can't see "Spare Parts" in About Phone -> Battery Info
tuxStyle said:
I can't see "Spare Parts" in About Phone -> Battery Info
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Me neither.. I was wondering about that myself!..
Although I'd half assumed that they were referring to the total "up-time" figure which you can see at the bottom of the "about phone"; "Status" screen.. But perhaps not.?
Spare Parts is a standalone Program ...
(i don't know for sure if it is in the market or downloadable as .apk from somewhere here in the forum ...)
Bax
im_iceman said:
Me neither.. I was wondering about that myself!..
Although I'd half assumed that they were referring to the total "up-time" figure which you can see at the bottom of the "about phone"; "Status" screen.. But perhaps not.?
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You can download it here
Spare parts is indeed available from the market - it is a much more powerful tool for indicating battery usage than the regular android methods. The galaxy stared on 1.5 which had NO indicator of battery usage statistics at all, so we all learned about spare parts very fast.
Perhaps that is why no x10 users have realised about the potential no sleep bug; because so far only the android usage indicators have been used?...
Anyway, hopefully this can help us all understand the way our phones are working better together
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Spare parts is indeed available from the market - it is a much more powerful tool for indicating battery usage than the regular android methods. The galaxy stared on 1.5 which had NO indicator of battery usage statistics at all, so we all learned about spare parts very fast.
Perhaps that is why no x10 users have realised about the potential no sleep bug; because so far only the android usage indicators have been used?...
Anyway, hopefully this can help us all understand the way our phones are working better together
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14% it's mine value for running time, not 100%. By the way thats 30 minutes of 210 in total :S
I'm also experiencing "No sleep bug" after i used GPS. I use Battery Graph to plot my power consumption and after I use GPS, I can clearly see that power consumption is high even if i turn the phone in plane mode.
In addition SE widget, used to turn on/off GPS, seems to not work very well for me. So, to fix the bug, i manually disable GPS in parameter menu and restart my phone. After that power consumption is hardly null (20% in 8h with MP3 on almost all the time).
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I'm also experiencing "No sleep bug" after i used GPS. I use Battery Graph to plot my power consumption and after I use GPS, I can clearly see that power consumption is high even if i turn the phone in plane mode.
In addition SE widget, used to turn on/off GPS, seems to not work very well for me. So, to fix the bug, i manually disable GPS in parameter menu and restart my phone. After that power consumption is hardly null (20% in 8h with MP3 on almost all the time).
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Do you have 3G always on?
My phone has no trouble sleeping.
Gps hasn't really been an issue but I keep it off when not needed.
Here's my solid settings:
1) No auto sync
2) No moxier
3) Gps off
4) Restart after using wireless
As long as it's like this my phone lasts 2 days easily
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Do you have 3G always on?
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Yes, but I made a lot of test with and without 3G enabled and 3G seems not to be a problem for me. I think my problem comes from GPS.
ondoteam said:
Do you have 3G always on?
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3G always on.
n3man said:
LOL... this is already going the way of the Galaxy thread!
My phone came out of the box with auto-brightness and i never changed that option, yet i still had no sleep.
Drakaz has done some fairly deep digging and is next to certain that it is an artefact of the geolocation bug discussed in the thread in which the problem was fixed.
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I have been playing with mine for a month to work out what caused mine to not go into sleep, I keep GPS wifi etc on 24/7 but in spare parts I was running 100%, after numerous reinstalls and removing everything i chanced on turning on auto screen brightness, now when i unplug my x10 the running sits at the correct level.
No Geolocation bug here
I have this problem with 100% on and off. Sometimes when I check its under control (~10%), other times its at 100%. I have GPS off, no WiFi, auto brightness... don't know why it sometimes just gets stuck at 100% :/
Before the update everything was fine. Now if I turn on the screen or listen to music the phone would awake (it would show that it was asleep in jellybean). When I turn off the screen and I am not listening to music then my phone falls asleep. Android system used to be awake under 20 mins over a 15-30 hr span now it can be well over an hour in 4-9 hr span. I did a factory reset yesterday already, uninstalled all of my apps and reinstalled them when I seen that the problem still exist. I googled the problem, but can't find a solution. Is anyone else getting a Android System battery drain like me.
dllebandroid said:
Before the update everything was fine. Now if I turn on the screen or listen to music the phone would awake (it would show that it was asleep in jellybean). When I turn off the screen and I am not listening to music then my phone falls asleep. Android system used to be awake under 20 mins over a 15-30 hr span now it can be well over an hour in 4-9 hr span. I did a factory reset yesterday already, uninstalled all of my apps and reinstalled them when I seen that the problem still exist. I googled the problem, but can't find a solution. Is anyone else getting a Android System battery drain like me.
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Yes, I am having the same problem. I was told to do a factory reset but I cant even back up my phone with kies because it the MTP driver keeps failing to install and Kies says I have to use Kies 3 even though the Samsung Site says 3 is for the Galaxy Note..
Did you sideload your update or was it OTA?
Shark0011 said:
Yes, I am having the same problem. I was told to do a factory reset but I cant even back up my phone with kies because it the MTP driver keeps failing to install and Kies says I have to use Kies 3 even though the Samsung Site says 3 is for the Galaxy Note..
Did you sideload your update or was it OTA?
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It was a OTA. I did a factory reset already, but that didn't fix the problem unfortunately.
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It was a OTA. I did a factory reset already, but that didn't fix the problem unfortunately.
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yeah I side loaded the update and I am on 100% stock no rooting or anything. My phone gets really hot all of a sudden and the battery starts dropping like crazy. I have none of the apps running so I don't know what the problem is..
Shark0011 said:
yeah I side loaded the update and I am on 100% stock no rooting or anything. My phone gets really hot all of a sudden and the battery starts dropping like crazy. I have none of the apps running so I don't know what the problem is..
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that is odd. I was reading the forums on the sprint galaxy note 3 update, and people have posted pix of their battery stats. Their stats looks similar to mine. The people there was saying that maybe the problem would fix itself over a week. Im hopping it do, because I am really loving kitkat...minus this issue of course.
dllebandroid said:
that is odd. I was reading the forums on the sprint galaxy note 3 update, and people have posted pix of their battery stats. Their stats looks similar to mine. The people there was saying that maybe the problem would fix itself over a week. Im hopping it do, because I am really loving kitkat...minus this issue of course.
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I hope so, here is my battery screen shot. It was fine until all of a sudden it starting dropping
Shark0011 said:
I hope so, here is my battery screen shot. It was fine until all of a sudden it starting dropping
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I attached another screen shot which shows it better
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I attached another screen shot which shows it better
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oh wow. You definitely have an app that is not liking kitkat. Your phone does not fall asleep when you turn your screen off. Im really trying to figure out why your phone is doing that. Im going to assume that "lookout" and "Malwarebytes Anti-Malware" are the problem. My opinion is that you don't need those as much as you think you do. they are most likely the cause of your drainage. My phone falls asleep as soon as i turn off the screen. Now i have 90% battery life with almost an hr of SOT left, and thats on 4g LTE the entire time.
Shark0011 said:
I attached another screen shot which shows it better
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Heres my stats new stats
I had alot of problems when on wifi, don't use it anymore and sticking with 4g. I'm at 30% left with just over 4 hours screen on. I'm guessing it's something either Google or Samsung have syncing more often on wifi, on wifi I'd be dead at 3 or 4 hours screen on time
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S4
84guy said:
I had alot of problems when on wifi, don't use it anymore and sticking with 4g. I'm at 30% left with just over 4 hours screen on. I'm guessing it's something either Google or Samsung have syncing more often on wifi, on wifi I'd be dead at 3 or 4 hours screen on time
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S4
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Thats interesting. I haven't used my phone on wifi yet, because its a little inconsistent right now. If your phone is acting up while connected to wifi then it got to be something on samsung's end. You can end up with just over 5 and a half hrs of SOT if you stick to 4g and don't want any problems. I would keep testing how things go on both wifi and 4g over the next couple of days if i were you to see if the problems continues though. What problems are you getting while connected to wifi?
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Thats interesting. I haven't used my phone on wifi yet, because its a little inconsistent right now. If your phone is acting up while connected to wifi then it got to be something on samsung's end. You can end up with just over 5 and a half hrs of SOT if you stick to 4g and don't want any problems. I would keep testing how things go on both wifi and 4g over the next couple of days if i were you to see if the problems continues though. What problems are you getting while connected to wifi?
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Another one of the major problems I am having is that sometimes my apps don't work. When i clicked on the camera it did not show up the app opens but the camera does not turn on. This leads to a major lag and when I try to press the home button it does not work. Then my phone's screen just shuts off and I cant turn it back on via the home button or the power button.
This also leads to the phone getting hot and losing the battery very quickly..
oh and btw the S5 does not seem to impressive to me..
Shark0011 said:
Another one of the major problems I am having is that sometimes my apps don't work. When i clicked on the camera it did not show up the app opens but the camera does not turn on. This leads to a major lag and when I try to press the home button it does not work. Then my phone's screen just shuts off and I cant turn it back on via the home button or the power button.
This also leads to the phone getting hot and losing the battery very quickly..
oh and btw the S5 does not seem to impressive to me..
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thats very odd man my phone doesn't do that at all.
The S5 didn't wow me either...lets see what HTC will do
had the same problem.
dllebandroid said:
Before the update everything was fine. Now if I turn on the screen or listen to music the phone would awake (it would show that it was asleep in jellybean). When I turn off the screen and I am not listening to music then my phone falls asleep. Android system used to be awake under 20 mins over a 15-30 hr span now it can be well over an hour in 4-9 hr span. I did a factory reset yesterday already, uninstalled all of my apps and reinstalled them when I seen that the problem still exist. I googled the problem, but can't find a solution. Is anyone else getting a Android System battery drain like me.
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I had the same problem at first. Waited a few days and it still drained badly. Then I went into startups and turned off a few of the apps I never use. Working fine now.
mattcoxxx said:
I had the same problem at first. Waited a few days and it still drained badly. Then I went into startups and turned off a few of the apps I never use. Working fine now.
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What apps did you disabled, and could you include a screen shot of your battery activity if you don't mind.
dllebandroid said:
Thats interesting. I haven't used my phone on wifi yet, because its a little inconsistent right now. If your phone is acting up while connected to wifi then it got to be something on samsung's end. You can end up with just over 5 and a half hrs of SOT if you stick to 4g and don't want any problems. I would keep testing how things go on both wifi and 4g over the next couple of days if i were you to see if the problems continues though. What problems are you getting while connected to wifi?
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Same problem as the op. Android system would take alot and phone wouldn't sleep. But on 4g it sleeps. Could be an app I have I dunno. 4g is fast here so it's not a problem for me
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S4
84guy said:
Same problem as the op. Android system would take alot and phone wouldn't sleep. But on 4g it sleeps. Could be an app I have I dunno. 4g is fast here so it's not a problem for me
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S4
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i reset the phone and didn't install any apps and come to find out that its something that is already on the phone. I had no apps on my phone and android system and android os were in the top three that was taking up a lot of battery.
I recently had an issue with Android OS draining a lot of battery. I read somewhere that disabling stuff from Google sync that you don't use can help, so I disabled sync for all Google services except the ones I use, such as contacts, calendar, app data, people details, and play books. I rebooted and watched my battery for the next couple of days. And it worked. My battery life is a lot better, and Android OS is not using nearly as much battery as it did before. Perhaps this will help you guys?
***UPDATE on HOW TO FIX***
I HAD terrible batt drain with nae.. so bad that i left the device on the charger overnight qnd woke up to 35% batt... i got mad and reflashed stockish v6.. but.. batt drain was the same...
so.. here is what i did... i ended up flashing negalite r6 and the batt was so bad my phone would be dead within 1hr.. SO, FOR KICKS, i reflashed the MK2 modem and HOLY COW!, problem solved!!
im currently on negalite r6 ( a nae rom ) but using the mk2 modem and my batt drain problems are gone. in fact im getting great batt life. i didnt change the kernal or anything. i have flashed ktoonsez kernal over it, and it has not effected batt life at all...
in conclusion, if ur batt life sux, try reflashing mk2 modem.. it worked for me.. and yes 4g, mms, calls, and wifi work without any problem...
hope this helps
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I recently had an issue with Android OS draining a lot of battery. I read somewhere that disabling stuff from Google sync that you don't use can help, so I disabled sync for all Google services except the ones I use, such as contacts, calendar, app data, people details, and play books. I rebooted and watched my battery for the next couple of days. And it worked. My battery life is a lot better, and Android OS is not using nearly as much battery as it did before. Perhaps this will help you guys?
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I don't even have sync on to help with battery life. Then again i never have it on unless i need to have something pushed to me.
Hello all,
I own an international N9005.
Up until recently, I used the stock Samsung ROM with good battery life.
A couple of weeks ago, with no apparent reason, I started getting horrid battery life - in access of 10% drop -per hour- in idle (as opposed to 1-3%).
I removed more-or-less everything, disabled more-or-less everything but nothing seems to work.
Got root (there goes the warranty) tried looking for Wake-locks and nothing. The Note3 is 97% (!!!) awake even with everything disabled, and in the wake looks screen both user and kernel I only see 1-2 minutes (!).
Tried resetting the ROM, tried installing other custom ROMs (X-Note, Omega, etc). Nothing seems to work.
Currently I'm running Omera v20, with *zero* applications installed (including all the Google and Samsung applications beyond Google Playstore) and all external services (location, WIFI, et-al) disabled, my note 3 is still 95-99% awake, and the list of wake lockers is, errr, empty.
FWIW I'm ~100m from the nearest cell tower.
EDIT: According to battery meter, Android OS is keeping the phone up.
Any ideas?
- Gilboa
gilboa said:
Hello all,
I own an international N9005.
Up until recently, I used the stock Samsung ROM with good battery life.
A couple of weeks ago, with no apparent reason, I started getting horrid battery life - in access of 10% drop -per hour- in idle (as opposed to 1-3%).
I removed more-or-less everything, disabled more-or-less everything but nothing seems to work.
Got root (there goes the warranty) tried looking for Wake-locks and nothing. The Note3 is 97% (!!!) awake even with everything disabled, and in the wake looks screen both user and kernel I only see 1-2 minutes (!).
Tried resetting the ROM, tried installing other custom ROMs (X-Note, Omega, etc). Nothing seems to work.
Currently I'm running Omera v20, with *zero* applications installed (including all the Google and Samsung applications beyond Google Playstore) and all external services (location, WIFI, et-al) disabled, my note 3 is still 95-99% awake, and the list of wake lockers is, errr, empty.
FWIW I'm ~100m from the nearest cell tower.
EDIT: According to battery meter, Android OS is keeping the phone up.
Any ideas?
- Gilboa
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Buy a new battery, maybe this will solve the problem...
gilboa said:
Hello all,
I own an international N9005.
Up until recently, I used the stock Samsung ROM with good battery life.
A couple of weeks ago, with no apparent reason, I started getting horrid battery life - in access of 10% drop -per hour- in idle (as opposed to 1-3%).
I removed more-or-less everything, disabled more-or-less everything but nothing seems to work.
Got root (there goes the warranty) tried looking for Wake-locks and nothing. The Note3 is 97% (!!!) awake even with everything disabled, and in the wake looks screen both user and kernel I only see 1-2 minutes (!).
Tried resetting the ROM, tried installing other custom ROMs (X-Note, Omega, etc). Nothing seems to work.
Currently I'm running Omera v20, with *zero* applications installed (including all the Google and Samsung applications beyond Google Playstore) and all external services (location, WIFI, et-al) disabled, my note 3 is still 95-99% awake, and the list of wake lockers is, errr, empty.
FWIW I'm ~100m from the nearest cell tower.
EDIT: According to battery meter, Android OS is keeping the phone up.
Any ideas?
- Gilboa
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Indexing your external SD maybe?
You could try the link in my sig and try again for your custom ROM.
First, thanks all for taking the time to answer.
I'm thinking about getting a new battery, but my gut feeling is that its not the source of amazing battery drain - ~20%/h while completely [!] idle (auto-sync/location/etc completely off).
I've attaching /d/wakeup_source in excel format sorted by count and total time - in-case someone has any idea what's completely broken.
As far as I can see, qpnp-vadc-ebd30a00, sec-battery-monitor, mmc0:0001:2 are the main culprits.
nicholaschum,
Before I attempt a complete wipe (as opposed to the normal wipe data / cache), how can I detect if someone is indexing my sdcard? (which may account for the mmc0:0001:2 in the wake lock dump).
- Gilboa
I know this is a long shot but try turning off developer options if you have it turned on(especially force gpu rendering). Somehow I found out that when I turned it on and the screen is idle. I get a battery drain. Not as big as yours. But not really sure because if I use the phone, the battery is actually pretty great(an hour of screen time is about 10% even more with internet apps like facebook youtube chrome etc.).
Clear cache. I know this is too common but it actually works for a lot of people.
Lastly, try airplane mode overnight and see if it doesn't drain. It might be your network that is causing the drain.
gilboa said:
First, thanks all for taking the time to answer.
I'm thinking about getting a new battery, but my gut feeling is that its not the source of amazing battery drain - ~20%/h while completely [!] idle (auto-sync/location/etc completely off).
I've attaching /d/wakeup_source in excel format sorted by count and total time - in-case someone has any idea what's completely broken.
As far as I can see, qpnp-vadc-ebd30a00, sec-battery-monitor, mmc0:0001:2 are the main culprits.
nicholaschum,
Before I attempt a complete wipe (as opposed to the normal wipe data / cache), how can I detect if someone is indexing my sdcard? (which may account for the mmc0:0001:2 in the wake lock dump).
- Gilboa
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Hi, basically just check your phone using BBS (BetterBatteryStats), and see which individual process is eating up your battery.
Graffiti Exploit said:
I know this is a long shot but try turning off developer options if you have it turned on(especially force gpu rendering). Somehow I found out that when I turned it on and the screen is idle. I get a battery drain. Not as big as yours. But not really sure because if I use the phone, the battery is actually pretty great(an hour of screen time is about 10% even more with internet apps like facebook youtube chrome etc.).
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I had the developer options off and on. Didn't seem to help.
Clear cache. I know this is too common but it actually works for a lot of people.
Lastly, try airplane mode overnight and see if it doesn't drain. It might be your network that is causing the drain.
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If the current state doesn't hold (see below), I'll give it a try. Good thinking
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Hi, basically just check your phone using BBS (BetterBatteryStats), and see which individual process is eating up your battery.
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Already installed - together with WakeLockDetector.
Short update, out of pure desperation I completely wiped the phone (including sdcard), tried installing stock ROM and, err, Odin failed. Managed to get CWM running again and installed the latest CM nightly.
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As weird as it sounds, going from NF4 based ROMs (including stock) to CM nightly dropped to idle battery usage to ~2-6%/h, a huge drop from ~20%/h.
I'll update and mark resolved if this situation holds (crosses fingers).
- Gilboa
gilboa said:
I had the developer options off and on. Didn't seem to help.
If the current state doesn't hold (see below), I'll give it a try. Good thinking
Already installed - together with WakeLockDetector.
Short update, out of pure desperation I completely wiped the phone (including sdcard), tried installing stock ROM and, err, Odin failed. Managed to get CWM running again and installed the latest CM nightly.
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As weird as it sounds, going from NF4 based ROMs (including stock) to CM nightly dropped to idle battery usage to ~2-6%/h, a huge drop from ~20%/h.
I'll update and mark resolved if this situation holds (crosses fingers).
- Gilboa
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I heard there were problems with NF4 battery. But I haven't been on TW since ND4. No matter what on Note 3 TW the battery sucks. AOSP is great. But actually S5 port has the best battery.
Solved, at least for now.
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I heard there were problems with NF4 battery. But I haven't been on TW since ND4. No matter what on Note 3 TW the battery sucks. AOSP is great. But actually S5 port has the best battery.
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I use Nova (and not TW)
Either way, latest nightly seems to solve the battery drain problem completely - using the same Nova and system configuration (widgets, active syncs, etc). Currently I'm at ~1.5-0.8%/h when idle with no issues going into deep sleep.
Seems that my specific model really dislikes NF4.
Thanks again for trying to help.
This thread has been quite helpful as I was suffering with a Battery Drain after the NF4 Upgrade.
Planning to go back to ND5, which was the last stable version.
JazonX said:
This thread has been quite helpful as I was suffering with a Battery Drain after the NF4 Upgrade.
Planning to go back to ND5, which was the last stable version.
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I was thinking about doing the same, but in the CM 11 runs circles around both NF4 (duh!) and my previous ROM (not sure which revision it was) - plus I can actually get 2 days of standby time, even with the old batteries, so I'll stick with CM 11 for now.
- Gilboa
gilboa said:
I was thinking about doing the same, but in the CM 11 runs circles around both NF4 (duh!) and my previous ROM (not sure which revision it was) - plus I can actually get 2 days of standby time, even with the old batteries, so I'll stick with CM 11 for now.
- Gilboa
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CM11 is not an option for me. No 4k Video Recording, Worse Camera than TW, S-Pen Functions Removed... Nope. Cant survive with CM11.
JazonX said:
CM11 is not an option for me. No 4k Video Recording, Worse Camera than TW, S-Pen Functions Removed... Nope. Cant survive with CM11.
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I can relate.
Good luck, and post if you find a solution (in-case I decide to switch back to Samsung based).
I've noticed this phone has hit or miss battery life depending on what you have installed, greenified and frozen. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where everyone could share their battery life tips and tricks on this phone.
Below I posted what I have done to maximize battery life. I have not rooted my phone yet, so none of the below tips require root.
I disabled all bloatware apps that came with the phone. I did not disable any of the Asus applications.
I utilize the Asus autostart manger and denied auto start to all my applications except music applications, messenger applications, and google photo sync.
battery sucks. drain to much.
Just use until you have 5% free battery, this should make at least your day
With Android OS taking so much thanks to lollipop, there is not a lot to hope.
We wont see a good battery improvement until we get 5.1
Luckily, that is in the future for this device acc. to Asus.
Since the issue seems to primarily be Android os draining the battery I don't think most battery saving measures will make a difference. We will just have to wait for an update
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
facelessloser said:
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
marcof93 said:
I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
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I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
facelessloser said:
I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
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Glad you solved, but don't know why, maybe they are working hard on the firmware and there are lot of changes that can cause problem, maybe we have to wipe after every update, Intel processor and Lollipop are so unstable right now!
toebus said:
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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It helps..i turned andriod device manager too
Ok so this is my battery with a normal day of use... Tomorrow ill show the results with your sugestions. My normal days have gsm calls(normal phone calls) whasapp (chat) youtube, twich, game like plant vs zombies 2, look at gmail, surfing internet, taking pics like 25 today.
I notice that battery drains a lot more while photo app open.
I use doble sim as you can see
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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Really interesting app ill download tomorrow im tring to lock some functionalities from google like sending data for app security and after that will download this and tell you what i got
Thank u sir thats a good one
Everyone is always wondering about Android using the most battery. Without doing some in depth debugging and tracing I would guess Houdini falls under Android. Because the ZenFone 2 uses the Intel processor a binary conversion for ARM instructions takes place with Houdini. More than likely you have a lot of apps native for ARM.
Force closing asus support app and zenui services app from apps setting gives me good amount of battery boost. Apart I have also disabled google books, movies, plus etc. I don't know if its placebo effect but someone can try and confirm. These app tend to restart at times so if you feel the battery decreasing at high rates again, make sure you force close them again.
Roughly speaking, I tend to get 3-5 min per percentage of screen on time with this which totals to 5 to 6 hrs on SOT on continous usage. Without the apps being force closed, I barely get 2min/%. The usage scenarios are normal web browsing, chats etc. This is using mobile data. It gets even better with wifi.
Try and let me know if this helps.
Maybe I don't use my phone as much as other people. I posted this last night on another forum. My phone was unplugged at 07:00, It's now 21:00. I have 80% battery left and the battery monitor shows 3 days left
I have received email, 3 phone calls and text messages. I checked Twitter a couple of times with the browser. I have read Google News a couple of times and played GSN Casino for about 20 minutes.
In Auto Start Manager I turned off Docs, Sheets, Skype, Slides, Translate, Amazon Kindle, Data Transfer and Web Storage. Everything else is Allow, but I have no social networking applications installed.
Its looks like battery life is a right mixed bag. At the start of the week I was suffering wake lock issue, my phone wouldn't go into deep sleep and was constantly awake. I wiped and restored from backup which seams to fix the issue.
Got up this morning and it looks like the wake lock issue is back. I don't know what to do to fix it.
Feel like giving up on the phone and sending it back if I can
hi MI A1 owners.
for those brave enough to use the latest vanilla, official OTA rom, what change did you notice?
does the battery still suffer huge drain that appeared in 2018 roms?
it's a big "NOPE" for me to update, i'm still on official DEC rom because of this drain issue.
Battery life is good on 8.1 no issue for me getting 5-6 hours SOT on gaming.
Never had battery drain problems. Only "issue" is notification led not blinking.
Just noticed that led light is no longer blinking when notifications arrive. Light stays on only when screen is off. Also Bluetooth is constantly disconnecting.
Ambient display isn't working for me.
Led notifier is also not blinking anymore!
Led not blinking, proximity sensor doesn't work properly all the time, some scrolling lag. That's what I've got so far
dudes thanks for your answers.
i'm just more convinced to not doing the update.
maybe the drain i had was magisk-related. (?)
Nothing for me, even got ten hours of screen after some cycles. Led doesn't bother me and it's the only thing i noticed.
Yes, the LED is always on, which is annoying, but the bigger issue is there is no change in the battery drain. I charged to 100%, set the phone down and did not move it or use it overnight. 8 hours later almost 14% of battery was drained. I have tried everything I can think of to try, including turning off high accuracy location, not allowing any location things like safe area, etc. and still I get this drain even when the phone is not in use. Android kernel and system consumed 85% of that usage, and System UI, Play Store and Phone Services accounted for 7%! SO basically, basic Android paired with the A1 hardware seems to be the issue and I don't know that there is any fix for that.
At one point, I thought an upgrade to the A2 was going to be a no brainer, but with the issues with updates being broken and this battery drain issue that nobody seems to be able to pinpoint and resolve, I am thinking I may not buy ANY other Xiaomi. It may be time to try something else because the only way I can get two days of battery is to turn on airplane mode when the phone is not in use!
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8 hours later almost 14% of battery was drained.
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Dunno what to say man. Mine is below.
2-3% at most over night.
And now it would appear that there is an issue with airplane mode.
I put the phone into Airplane mode at 2300 last night with 90% battery and did not pay attention to it. This morning I turned to phone on to find there was only 69% battery left, and WiFi was working. (see screen shot) WTF???? I have started using airplane mode to keep the battery drain to a minimum when the phone is not in use, and now it would appear that this doesn't work either.
I am REALLY getting frustrated with Android and Xiaomi as it seems that every time they do an update, something else goes bump! I have gone from totally happy with the AI when I first got it to being ready to write off Xiaomi as a company I would consider for purchase.
IjazCI said:
Is your WiFi scanning is on. ( Under location / scanning)
Play services also cause these type of sudden battery losses.
Try downloading latest play services apk from apkmirror . Latest one is
"com.google.android.gms_12.8.74_(090408-204998136)-12874034_minAPI26(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a)(480dpi)_apkmirror.com.apk"
Uninstall your current one. Install this .
Power off your phone for a few seconds and reboot.
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Thanks for the thoughts, but unless I totally misunderstand what airplane mode is, WiFi should not be active when airplane mode is invoked. You can see by the screen cap that airplane mode is on AND WiFi is active. This seems to be a one off as it has not happened again for the last two days. I turn airplane mode on to stop the overnight battery drain while the phone is doing nothing. I have location set to GPS Only. IIRC play services was just updated 3 days or so ago, so it should have the latest version. I will check it and see though. Again, thanks for the thoughts.
KB_Thailand said:
At one point, I thought an upgrade to the A2 was going to be a no brainer, but with the issues with updates being broken and this battery drain issue that nobody seems to be able to pinpoint and resolve, I am thinking I may not buy ANY other Xiaomi. It may be time to try something else because the only way I can get two days of battery is to turn on airplane mode when the phone is not in use!
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I can't logically understand why you would think it is the hardware causing the issue. If it was hardware, what you are seeing would be happening to every owner of the phone and clearly that is not happening. By saying it is the hardware when you have other software loaded is akin to saying your car's air conditioning doesn't work properly when you have all the windows wound down.
There is something loaded on your phone that is causing the systemUI to be working when you think nothing should be happening. The first thing I see on the screenshot on your phone is that in the top left of the screen you have two non standard icons. That tells me that you have a skin or non standard software constantly running.
The way to solve any issue like this is to go back to basics. I would get the fresh rom and do a Miflash whilst keeping your data. Make sure you do a backup first.
If that does not work, back up your data and do a clean install and check the phone's battery life. Do not load any non google software / app at this stage.
Then each day add one app and test for 24 hours. You will find this issue and the offending app or apps and I would be willing to bet you a few Singhas it will be an app you downloaded not the hardware causing this.
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I can't logically understand why you would think it is the hardware causing the issue. If it was hardware, what you are seeing would be happening to every owner of the phone and clearly that is not happening. By saying it is the hardware when you have other software loaded is akin to saying your car's air conditioning doesn't work properly when you have all the windows wound down.
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Actually, I think it is a combination of hardware/software, but that is just a WAG. Others have noted the exact same issue without running the same software. My bet would be on the RCS services stuff.
There is something loaded on your phone that is causing the systemUI to be working when you think nothing should be happening. The first thing I see on the screenshot on your phone is that in the top left of the screen you have two non standard icons. That tells me that you have a skin or non standard software constantly running.
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Those icons are my Email client and GSAM Battery Monitor (presently 0.1% and 0.8%) and are the only two constantly running programs other than the stock apps and Sophos (0.3%). Neither use much battery compared to the Android stuff. Presently Kernel is 41.6%, RCS/Phone is 30.3%. SystemUI is 3.3%, Play Services is 2.0% and Phone Services is 1.8%
The way to solve any issue like this is to go back to basics. I would get the fresh rom and do a Miflash whilst keeping your data. Make sure you do a backup first.
If that does not work, back up your data and do a clean install and check the phone's battery life. Do not load any non google software / app at this stage.
Then each day add one app and test for 24 hours. You will find this issue and the offending app or apps and I would be willing to bet you a few Singhas it will be an app you downloaded not the hardware causing this.
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Good advice. I will do this when I have a few days to play with it. In the interim, it's airplane mode every night. Thanks for the reply. If it turns out to be one of these apps, let me know where to send the Singhas.
Good luck with it. I hope you find the solution. It can be frustrating, but getting to the bottom of it will be worthwhile. I haven't used Sophos for a long time and even then it was for PC. I am not up with how Sophos AV is integrating into Android but that would be my first guess.
I have only had one issue with this phone after updating and it was that the OS was constantly asking for a password on unlock after using fingerprint not just on startup. A clean install solved it and I have been trouble free since with every update. With over 50 PCs in my office, I could only wish that I had so few issues with Windows updates as I do with Android.
For me, night light auto schedule not working properly.
I can't tether via wifi/bluetoth/usb
Made another post with the problem.
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Good luck with it. I hope you find the solution. It can be frustrating, but getting to the bottom of it will be worthwhile. I haven't used Sophos for a long time and even then it was for PC. I am not up with how Sophos AV is integrating into Android but that would be my first guess.
I have only had one issue with this phone after updating and it was that the OS was constantly asking for a password on unlock after using fingerprint not just on startup. A clean install solved it and I have been trouble free since with every update. With over 50 PCs in my office, I could only wish that I had so few issues with Windows updates as I do with Android.
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Just for grins and giggles, I uninstalled my email client, GSAM, and Sophos, the only programs that run constantly other than system and Line. I then turned my phone off and back on, forced stopped Line, charged it to 100% and set it down with the screen off. It did not move of get used for 8 hours, yet it still used 12% of the battery. (see screenshots) This is better than the 20% with those apps installed, but still not close to what I would consider normal. When I first got the phone, it easily lasted 2-3 days between charges, with 6-7 hours SoT. Overnight would use MAYBE 2% of the battery. Now if I want it to last 2 days I need to turn on airplane mode overnight and then I can make it through a day.
So I guess the next step is to do as you recommended and load up the fresh rom when I have time to mess with it. At least I am now pretty sure that those apps aren't the culprits causing the biggest part of the battery drain. I hate to do it, but I am seriously thinking of a factory reset and seeing if that clears the issue. Would that put me back to Nougat?
IjazCI said:
I always disable carrier services apk. As rcs is not here in India.
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How do you disable this apk? I seriously think this is the major culprit in the battery drain.
KB_Thailand said:
charged it to 100% and set it down with the screen off. It did not move of get used for 8 hours, yet it still used 12% of the battery. (see screenshots) This is better than the 20% with those apps installed,
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So those apps were causing 40% of of the 20% of the battery drain. That is a good start. I am confident there are software issues with your phone. I see you have some GPS app on your home screen, if that was running askew, it might be constantly pinging. That is just a guess.
In things like this, work methodically through it. But of cause a hard reset would be the best way to go. I see no reason why you wouldn't stay on your current version after a hard reset.
If you want to go make to version 7 you would need to use the MiFlash program and a downloaded standard fastboot rom. You may need to do something else to the phone to go back to 7, but I would not think so.