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[Q] Battery life

Hello everyone I hope I got the right forum
I have a problem with the new system update released
The new update did not help at all to my nexus
I ran out of battery really fast, before the update it was fine
Battery had stayed a long time
What should I do?

1headshot said:
Hello everyone I hope I got the right forum
I have a problem with the new system update released
The new update did not help at all to my nexus
I ran out of battery really fast, before the update it was fine
Battery had stayed a long time
What should I do?
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385843
To get battery like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44364085&postcount=5089
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Galaxo60 said:
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385843
To get battery like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44364085&postcount=5089
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A quick look through that thread shows that it is focused on problems relating to Google Services. Since the update, I too am having issues with the battery draining more quickly than it ever did before. However, it appears to be msm_hsic_host wakelock causing the problem. Google services are a very small part of my battery usage.
I have posted a couple times about it in various threads, but I haven't seen a fix that applies to 4.3.
The battery drain is out of hand. I love my N4, but this is a big turn off for me.
I have tried these configurations to make sure it wasn't an oddball app causing the problem -
Stock 4.3 with stock Kernel - no root/stock recovery - Only apps being the ones that load on a factory reset
Wiped all partitions and reloaded stock 4.3/gapps/no root/stock recovery
Stock 4.3/rooted/TWRP/Stock gapps
Stock 4.3/rooted/TWRP/gapps+ a handful of other apps (photobucket/es file explorer/bbs - essentially, my normal config)
Added note - I also have cell broadcasts of all types turned off.
All of the above combinations respond the same way in regard to battery drain overnight. 7-9 hours off the charger/no screen time nets me 25-30% loss of battery from a full charge. msm_hsic shows up in BBS with 1.75 to 2.5 hours of wake time and is the highest power consumer. Putting the phone in flight mode reduces power consumption to ~2% over the same 7-9 hour timeframe. Just turning wifi off doesn't change anything.
Ideas anyone?

Calebz said:
A quick look through that thread shows that it is focused on problems relating to Google Services. Since the update, I too am having issues with the battery draining more quickly than it ever did before. However, it appears to be msm_hsic_host wakelock causing the problem. Google services are a very small part of my battery usage.
I have posted a couple times about it in various threads, but I haven't seen a fix that applies to 4.3.
The battery drain is out of hand. I love my N4, but this is a big turn off for me.
I have tried these configurations to make sure it wasn't an oddball app causing the problem -
Stock 4.3 with stock Kernel - no root/stock recovery - Only apps being the ones that load on a factory reset
Wiped all partitions and reloaded stock 4.3/gapps/no root/stock recovery
Stock 4.3/rooted/TWRP/Stock gapps
Stock 4.3/rooted/TWRP/gapps+ a handful of other apps (photobucket/es file explorer/bbs - essentially, my normal config)
Added note - I also have cell broadcasts of all types turned off.
All of the above combinations respond the same way in regard to battery drain overnight. 7-9 hours off the charger/no screen time nets me 25-30% loss of battery from a full charge. msm_hsic shows up in BBS with 1.75 to 2.5 hours of wake time and is the highest power consumer. Putting the phone in flight mode reduces power consumption to ~2% over the same 7-9 hour timeframe. Just turning wifi off doesn't change anything.
Ideas anyone?
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As far as I know, this wakelock is caused because of the usage of 3G, like browsing, syncing, or any other thing that consumes data. This drain for me is usually between 10%-15%. There is no way t completely get rid of it, because it is part of the Android system.
There are many kernels that tried to fix this, about stock image and JW branch I don´t know, but maybe you should try to install an AOSP variant, because AOSP has many bugs fixed.
Also I remember I read somewhere that also bad radio could be causing this kind of issues, so try to get latest radio/bootloader for 4.3.
Hope it helps.
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Galaxo60 said:
As far as I know, this wakelock is caused because of the usage of 3G, like browsing, syncing, or any other thing that consumes data. This drain for me is usually between 10%-15%. There is no way t completely get rid of it, because it is part of the Android system.
There are many kernels that tried to fix this, about stock image and JW branch I don´t know, but maybe you should try to install an AOSP variant, because AOSP has many bugs fixed.
Also I remember I read somewhere that also bad radio could be causing this kind of issues, so try to get latest radio/bootloader for 4.3.
Hope it helps.
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To avoid having loose ends out there (in case anyone finds this thread during a search) - The problem turned out to be the latest radio. Not my lack of it :lol:
After flashing back to the .48 radio, from the .84 radio - everything is back to normal. No more weird Android OS wakelocks. ~3-4% battery drain overnight instead of 20-30%
There are more and more people popping up on XDA with this problem. So far, all of them that I have seen are outside the US. A few have even discovered the same fix.
So - future person that finds this thread during a search, look into the possibility of flashing back to version .48 of the radio. Hopefully this saves someone the trouble of experimenting with a bunch of different ROMs and kernels.

Calebz said:
To avoid having loose ends out there (in case anyone finds this thread during a search) - The problem turned out to be the latest radio. Not my lack of it :lol:
After flashing back to the .48 radio, from the .84 radio - everything is back to normal. No more weird Android OS wakelocks. ~3-4% battery drain overnight instead of 20-30%
There are more and more people popping up on XDA with this problem. So far, all of them that I have seen are outside the US. A few have even discovered the same fix.
So - future person that finds this thread during a search, look into the possibility of flashing back to version .48 of the radio. Hopefully this saves someone the trouble of experimenting with a bunch of different ROMs and kernels.
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I put your post into my thread for people looking for an answer to this wakelock. Hope you don´t mind. Credits to you are there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44122105
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New battery, standby time still awful.

Hello!
I recently put a new battery into my Nexus 7 2012 3G. Before that I had roughly 17 hours of standby time (I did nothing with it, it just sat in my backpack while I'm at work), now it's exactly the same.
Now I know that in a case like this the battery has to go through a few charging cycles before everything works at 100% capacity but I did that. I put it in on Wednesday last week and I discharged and recharged it four times already without seeing any sort of improvement.
There is an issue with the wakelocks on the Nexus 7 as far as I remember. I did try different Kernels a few months ago but those didn't help and the tablet just sat on my shelf most of the time since then because it was pretty much useless to me because of the low batterylife. Right now it's running with stock ROM and Kernel.
Do you have any suggestions for me? Does the battery need more charging cycles? Are there any new Kernels or ROMs now that completely fix these issues? I really want to use this damn thing again, especially now that I spent 40 bucks on a new battery that I can't return because I threw away the old one! :good:
Thanks in advance!
Mathias

No ideas? You got some change? Come on, help a guy out!

Have you used any apps to try and hunt down any wakelocks? You may have a rogue app or service or something causing problems. Try GSAM battery monitor, it has a great detailed breakdown of this. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=en .
17 hours of standby definitely sounds low to me. I'm currently running Dirty Unicorn v8.2 (final KK release) with the included kernel and could go for days on standby. I haven't run stock since the initial purchase of the device (almost 2 years ago now), so not sure about what's "normal" on stock, but that sounds low to me either way.
BTW i have a grouper not a tilapia, but that shouldn't make any difference.

Thanks I will try monitoring it with that!
Mine went on for days as well. But then, completely out of the blue and from one day to the next, the standby time went to ****.
I am pretty busy this week, but that just let's me monitor it properly for a few days while it sits on my bag. I will try flashing a different ROM and Kernel this weekend. Thanks!

I have _very_ good experiences with all kinds of SlimRoms. I have the grouper device, but with SlimBean (4.3) I had standby times for up to 10 days with wifi + sync on! My Samsung SIII has SlimBean on it and I have 3 days standby

When discussing battery issues, there's a huge difference between the wifi-only (Grouper) and wifi + 3G (Tilapia)versions of Nexus 7 2012.
I have a Tilapia, and battery life sucks. There's a bug in the OS, ever since day 1. Meaning that switching roms will have minimal effect.
Been there done that.
You should run some kind of battery monitor as PrizmaticSmoke suggested. I use BetterBatteryStats ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 ).
Running the monitor for a day or so, will most likely show that there's a constant wakelock named "baseband xmm power", chewing through your battery in about 24 hours.
Even putting the device in flight mode doesn't kill the wakelock.
I have resorted to manually selecting a 3G network and then removing the sim. I now have stand-by for about 5 days.

Tommmii, even after just 1 hour of monitoring it "baseband xmm power" is already at the top of the wakelocks that suck the battery dry.
I followed your suggestion of selecting a 3G network and removing the SIM card, but that didn't help me. I still lose about 7% during one hour of standby.

@Matttis
not to rub salt into your wound...I'm getting 0.6% / H, when the tablet is in deep sleep.
There is some good news from your monitoring, at least you know there's nothing wrong with the hardware.
The not-so-good part is that there isn't a 100% sure fix for that wakelock, all I have read point towards hit & miss solutions.
I am not willing to experiment with my own tablet, since that might bring back that pesky wakelock which has now been away for 2 months.
Are you actually using the 3G, or would you be a happy camper "downgrading" your Tilapia to a wifi-only Grouper, with the gain of normal batery-life ?
cheers,
Tom.

My boss recently gave me a SIM with a 5GB LTE plan, I might actually be better off if I just use the hotspot of my phone instead
So yeah, I'd be down with that! I do use the 3G feature, but if that means that I will get normal battery life again... You mean flashing the rom of a non-3G N7?

Matttis said:
So yeah, I'd be down with that! I do use the 3G feature, but if that means that I will get normal battery life again... You mean flashing the rom of a non-3G N7?
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yup, that is the only thing I will experiment with.
Untill then, here is what i remember doing to get rid of the wakelock:
I was in another country with a prepaid burner sim.
I had manually selected the sim's network, in the hopes that this would alleviate the wakelock. It didn't help ofcourse.
I then forgot all about the previous, and travelled back home.
I then removed the foreign sim.
Wakelock gone.
Caveat : the tablet keeps reminding me that the burner sim's network isn't available... duh... I'm in another country AND the sim isn't inserted, yah I kinda figured the network won't be available.
So, what I think _might_ work : insert any sim, manually select that sim's network, disable data in the mobile network settings, eject the sim, power off, power on.
Then keep an eye on the wakelocks...
good luck.

I did exactly that. I manually selected the network, ejected the sim and now the tablet keeps reminding me that the network isn't available.
Still same issue, that didn't help me.
Is it even safely possible to install a rom for a different device? For example, could I just grab the Lollipop factory image for the N7 wifi version and flash that?

Matttis said:
I did exactly that. I manually selected the network, ejected the sim and now the tablet keeps reminding me that the network isn't available.
Still same issue, that didn't help me.
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Also disable data in Mobile network settings.
Also reboot.
Then watch the wakelock for at least 30 mins, even an hour.
Matttis said:
Is it even safely possible to install a rom for a different device? For example, could I just grab the Lollipop factory image for the N7 wifi version and flash that?
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Possible, yes... I want to try it out when I have some time, if only to get that damn Lollipop, which is available for Grouper but not yet for Tilapia.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...a-flashing-t2958685/post57309990#post57309990
http://androidforums.com/threads/my-tilapia-is-a-grouper-now.858189/
http://androidforums.com/threads/grouper-vs-tilapia.668162/

I went ahead and updated my tilapia to android 5.0.2 for grouper.
Wasn't easy, but it runs stable.
Unfortunately it didn't help with the baseband_xmm_power wakelock
So I took this a step further and did a "fastboot erase radio", I will repost if this helps with the battery drain.
update : no use. Reverted back to 4.4.4 KitKat, and did procedure as outlined a few posts earlier. Standby consumption is now kinda normal at 0.5% / H

Tommmii said:
I went ahead and updated my tilapia to android 5.0.2 for grouper.
Wasn't easy, but it runs stable.
Unfortunately it didn't help with the baseband_xmm_power wakelock
So I took this a step further and did a "fastboot erase radio", I will repost if this helps with the battery drain.
update : no use. Reverted back to 4.4.4 KitKat, and did procedure as outlined a few posts earlier. Standby consumption is now kinda normal at 0.5% / H
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I updated to LP 5.0.2 factory,and the wakelock hit me like a brick. What got it gone was Synman's GwT with carcosa kernel.
In fact it is the stock kernel that causes the wakelock,tried with Multirom(which uses patched stock kernel),and wakelock was back,using 7%/hour.
Flashing carcosa-a33-lp-anykernel removed the wakelock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2662639
happy flashing

Battery Life Tips and Tricks Thread

I've noticed this phone has hit or miss battery life depending on what you have installed, greenified and frozen. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where everyone could share their battery life tips and tricks on this phone.
Below I posted what I have done to maximize battery life. I have not rooted my phone yet, so none of the below tips require root.
I disabled all bloatware apps that came with the phone. I did not disable any of the Asus applications.
I utilize the Asus autostart manger and denied auto start to all my applications except music applications, messenger applications, and google photo sync.

battery sucks. drain to much.

Just use until you have 5% free battery, this should make at least your day
With Android OS taking so much thanks to lollipop, there is not a lot to hope.

We wont see a good battery improvement until we get 5.1
Luckily, that is in the future for this device acc. to Asus.

Since the issue seems to primarily be Android os draining the battery I don't think most battery saving measures will make a difference. We will just have to wait for an update

When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?

facelessloser said:
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.

marcof93 said:
I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad

facelessloser said:
Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.

Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.

marcof93 said:
I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
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I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?

facelessloser said:
I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
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Glad you solved, but don't know why, maybe they are working hard on the firmware and there are lot of changes that can cause problem, maybe we have to wipe after every update, Intel processor and Lollipop are so unstable right now!

toebus said:
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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It helps..i turned andriod device manager too

Ok so this is my battery with a normal day of use... Tomorrow ill show the results with your sugestions. My normal days have gsm calls(normal phone calls) whasapp (chat) youtube, twich, game like plant vs zombies 2, look at gmail, surfing internet, taking pics like 25 today.
I notice that battery drains a lot more while photo app open.
I use doble sim as you can see

If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.

Sammaul said:
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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Really interesting app ill download tomorrow im tring to lock some functionalities from google like sending data for app security and after that will download this and tell you what i got
Thank u sir thats a good one

Everyone is always wondering about Android using the most battery. Without doing some in depth debugging and tracing I would guess Houdini falls under Android. Because the ZenFone 2 uses the Intel processor a binary conversion for ARM instructions takes place with Houdini. More than likely you have a lot of apps native for ARM.

Force closing asus support app and zenui services app from apps setting gives me good amount of battery boost. Apart I have also disabled google books, movies, plus etc. I don't know if its placebo effect but someone can try and confirm. These app tend to restart at times so if you feel the battery decreasing at high rates again, make sure you force close them again.
Roughly speaking, I tend to get 3-5 min per percentage of screen on time with this which totals to 5 to 6 hrs on SOT on continous usage. Without the apps being force closed, I barely get 2min/%. The usage scenarios are normal web browsing, chats etc. This is using mobile data. It gets even better with wifi.
Try and let me know if this helps.

Maybe I don't use my phone as much as other people. I posted this last night on another forum. My phone was unplugged at 07:00, It's now 21:00. I have 80% battery left and the battery monitor shows 3 days left
I have received email, 3 phone calls and text messages. I checked Twitter a couple of times with the browser. I have read Google News a couple of times and played GSN Casino for about 20 minutes.
In Auto Start Manager I turned off Docs, Sheets, Skype, Slides, Translate, Amazon Kindle, Data Transfer and Web Storage. Everything else is Allow, but I have no social networking applications installed.

Its looks like battery life is a right mixed bag. At the start of the week I was suffering wake lock issue, my phone wouldn't go into deep sleep and was constantly awake. I wiped and restored from backup which seams to fix the issue.
Got up this morning and it looks like the wake lock issue is back. I don't know what to do to fix it.
Feel like giving up on the phone and sending it back if I can

Android OS consuming huge amount of battery

hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!

ADM!RAL said:
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk

Stevica Smederevac said:
Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
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yea i noticed that i read about something related to wifi driver issue idk
thx for reply tho and for my device it's stock D800y20 rom just rooted and even with stock recovery if it matter

This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?

keeepinitgansta said:
This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?
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idk but last google play service update was 10 days ago here !!

ADM!RAL said:
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
Edit: SS Added
and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery

Dlazzy said:
Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery
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yea almost identical problem
i did tot reinstall and see how things go !!

sadly nothing changed and wifi still eats huge amount of battery idk how did this happen
well i'll update thread if anything changed
peace out guys

I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.

stan54 said:
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.

stan54 said:
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
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My G2 (vs980) has also been suffering from a sudden battery drain. Android OS and Android System seem to be the problem. They are now second and third on the list of battery usage, after the screen. Before now, they were never that high on the list. I noticed this last weekend, when I kdz to the latest update for the vs980, which is 3AA. After noticing this, I flashed the xceed kernel, then cloudy with dorimanx kernel, and the battery drain continued. I even kdz back to kitkat, still the same, then I flashed AICP 11, and still the same battery drain by Android OS and system. Finally, I restored a backup of stock lollipop 39A but, the issue continued so I turned on airplane mode and it seems to help a bit. I still notice battery life isn't the same as before. The os and system still drain more than usual even on airplane mode.
Kind of glad to hear I'm not the only one with this issue. I don't think I need a new battery, since I bought the phone new in April 2015 from Bestbuy.
Also Gsam, shows the temperature of phone between 80°-90°F, where before it would be in the low to mid 70s. One time, it even got up to 104°F, funny thing is, it doesn't even feel that hot in my hand.
Hopefully, we can find out what's causing this because I really liked the battery life on this phone. Even when people complained about the battery life being worse on 5.0.2, I was pretty happy with it. All my previous phones can't compare to the g2. Now I feel like upgrading though lol.
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How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.
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When I tried the version that was out a month or two ago it wasn't nearly as smooth as stock, even after conservatively messing with the kernel app settings. The worst was that it also cut out tethering and my flashlight when the screen shut off. Maybe the recent updates have fixed some of the issues, but I doubt it. Could be that he doesn't have access to the sprint variant which I have...
Either way, just because 'thousands' of people use it doesn't necessarily mean that it's good - 99.9% of those users have no idea how to code or how a kernel is written. Their knowledge goes as far as following picture guides online - which a 5 years old could do. Just look at the most recent change log - those 'fixes' were to glaringly huge problems that shouldn't have been made in the first place and people were blissfully using it the whole time. Think about how many thousands of other bugs their must be. Not to mention hacking up code made by professionals at huge companies could lead to many other problems. Obliviously the stock kernel has bugs as well, but it works and is fast and stable so I see no need for using a hacked together kernel made by one amateur that doesn't even have my version of the phone to test it on. I wanted it to be good - which Is why I went to the trouble of installing it, but it's definitely NOT.
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Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
Thank you very much
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I uninstalled ALL of the stock apps that can be uninstalled. The ones I disabled are aosp keyboard, app updates, browser, calendar, cloud print, favorite contact widget, google play books, games, movies & tv, newstand, google+, lg voice command speech pack, music, music(the widget - it always runs in the background even without being on the homescreen), notebook, polaris viewer, quicktranslator, swype, talkback, voice command. I would have liked to disable a few more but I'm not rooted so I couldn't.
I use nearly all of the google products like chrome,gmail, calendar, docs, keep, music, photos, news and weather,translate,etc...so having the stock lg ones enabled was redundant. I also only have the bare minimum of installed apps that I need. Nearly all of them are made my major corporations i.e Chase, BofA, ebay, paypal, freedompop, microsoft, swiftkey etc. I have NO games or any small apps that need a ton of permissions. The only small apps are feedly, print hammermill, privacy flashlight(240kb, no ads, no permissions) and bubble level(180kb, no ads, no permissions).
I also go through every settings in every app to make sure it's what I want. And I restart my phone every time I take it off the charger. IMO having a clean and no frills system that is set correctly is the key to performance and battery life.
I just want want to clarify that I average 4-5hrs per 1% in standby since it doesn't seem to hold as well as it gets closer to 0%.

theres this app that have lots of info on battery..

thx guys for adding your experience
i hoped moded kernels would've reduced that amount as they should have necessary drivers for wifi which was somehow got messed up but from your reply i guess i've to look somewhere else

idk how to put this, well this isn't a solution at all i actually didn't start working on it yet just thought to share what i found so far !!
so it's just a reference for any one whose luck was bad enough to have a wakelock like that !
1st of all in most cases neither the device nor it's battery are at fault *you need to understand that*
faulty battery doesn't show up kernel related wakelocks instead they drain without a reason so i hope ppl stop accusing battery in every battery drain thread!
2nd after understanding that you'll have to deal with the environment your phone is used in
to put it simple it's your router and all devices in your current network !! (idk though why not all devices get affected by that or why it just started now, tough luck yea)
those threads may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31975007&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/getting-rid-wlanrxwake-wakelocks-t2519294
what i'll try to do is add an old access point to my router and connect my phone to it as i don't have a replacement router right now!!
i'll let you know if things were improved !

hey guys
i thought to share what i did so far and before i go on there is a bad news and a good news !!
i would start with the bad news first !
-no rom could solve this issue so you don't really need to format everything and start from scratch especially if you didn't mess around too much and you found it started suddenly like here, i've tried couple of roms including latest CM13 build it wasn't that bad but it didn't solve the drain that much either !!
-now some ppl may see this bad and some may don't care (which means good!!) google services are the ones responsible for this drain
well man you didn't come up with anything new and i see you've got a problem getting straight to the point besides you talk too much
i'm sorry
now you have to sacrifice your google services background sync including "GCM" if you are using any services similar to pushbullet or notification mirroring you'd understand why it's important
anyway if you are good with that you may install and yea it works with latest google play services
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playfulgeeks.gservicefix
and do as instructions (and believe it'll work if you did steps right)
if you prefer manual way then you'll need "app ops xposed module" and deactivate every "wake up" permission from google services
this guide may help but remember we don't have tools natively in our roms so don't bother downloading "shortcut maker" and go through your settings app to find "privacy guard" or "app ops" we don't have those natively like them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
i'll share some ss from stock battery stats
i'm sorry for my long post and i hope it'll help someone with same issue
idk if it solved issue completely but things are stabilized a lot now and i just lost 1% over night not 20% or 30% like before !!
and i'm using lollipop now so i guess it's not that bad for what i heard about bad lollipop battery since it's my first time trying it !!
and btw real SOT should be +40 mins so the real SOT is 2H-47M cuz i restarted my phone to apply that fix and for some reason battery stats doesn't stick between reboots !!
if anyone interested in trying that rom it's for D800 only btw and thx to @Swetnes for his work rom feels pretty stable and solid :good:
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-g2/development/rom-t3152368/
good luck everyone

GApps on Rooted LG V20

Does anybody know if we are able to flash any other versions of GApps on the rooted LG V20?
My V20 is from AT&T and since day one it has had terrible battery life. Where I was able to use my Note7 or Droid Turbo all day and still have battery left, the V20 eats the battery charge like Sally Struthers in a See's Candy warehouse. I mean, I have to charge this thing at least 2 times a day when I use it to search the web or any battery intensive purposes. I never had this problem on any other phone. I have been trying to find ways to improve my battery. I used Rom Toolbox Pro to disable all kinds of stuff, and it worked great, until my phone started Grand Mal seizing giving me the Google Play Services has to close notifications, which I then had to factory reset just to get my phone working properly again.
I would like to try flashing a minimal version of GApps that pretty much just has the play store and play store services. Are we able to do this on our V20's without having any issues? If you have any input at all I would really appreciate it.

IMHO it must be an app or two you have installed draining your battery like that. On a full charge I can a whole day and a little in to the next. I am a heavy user too. Are you blasting the brightness at 100% all the time? If so auto brightness will help a little. Go in to setting and see what is using that much drain

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IMHO it must be an app or two you have installed draining your battery like that. On a full charge I can a whole day and a little in to the next. I am a heavy user too. Are you blasting the brightness at 100% all the time? If so auto brightness will help a little. Go in to setting and see what is using that much drain
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I was thinking it might be something I installed, as well. But I can't seem to pinpoint any apps that might be causing the battery drain. I keep the screen on auto brightness like you mentioned so it shouldn't be the screen. GSam almost always shows the Android System and Kernel (Android OS) at the top of the list of battery-draining apps. I love the phone, I just cannot figure out what is going on. I mean, I am not doing anything different than I have on my previous phones, and the V20 seems to be working fine. I thought maybe it is something with Nougat. I will gladly post some pics of app usage or data if it might help figure this problem out.

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I was thinking it might be something I installed, as well. But I can't seem to pinpoint any apps that might be causing the battery drain. I keep the screen on auto brightness like you mentioned so it shouldn't be the screen. GSam almost always shows the Android System and Kernel (Android OS) at the top of the list of battery-draining apps. I love the phone, I just cannot figure out what is going on. I mean, I am not doing anything different than I have on my previous phones, and the V20 seems to be working fine. I thought maybe it is something with Nougat. I will gladly post some pics of app usage or data if it might help figure this problem out.
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What rom are you on? Are you on stock white theme? I'm running a dark theme, which can help save a little juice. I'm also running as many team blackout apps as I can (many Google apps) to avoid all the whiteness. Just throwing out some ideas.

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What rom are you on? Are you on stock white theme? I'm running a dark theme, which can help save a little juice. I'm also running as many team blackout apps as I can (many Google apps) to avoid all the whiteness. Just throwing out some ideas.
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Interesting! I have never heard of Team Blackout Apps, they look pretty nice! Yes, I am on the stock ROM just the way it comes. I haven't changed anything at all. I have barely installed any apps just to see if I can find what is causing the battery to drain. Are there any other ROMs that work with the AT&T variant of the LG V20? It seems like they haven't made any yet for the AT&T V20. I am still waiting for Xposed to be released that is compatible with nougat so I can use Amplify.

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Interesting! I have never heard of Team Blackout Apps, they look pretty nice! Yes, I am on the stock ROM just the way it comes. I haven't changed anything at all. I have barely installed any apps just to see if I can find what is causing the battery to drain. Are there any other ROMs that work with the AT&T variant of the LG V20? It seems like they haven't made any yet for the AT&T V20. I am still waiting for Xposed to be released that is compatible with nougat so I can use Amplify.
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I don't think there are any roms for AT&T variant atm. I did see an AT&T user flashed the stock deodexed rom by tilde88 in rom section. Not sure of all the details though. I'm assuming you would lose some functionality...would need to flash stock kernel as well.

What is your leading source of battery drain under system usage?

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I don't think there are any roms for AT&T variant atm. I did see an AT&T user flashed the stock deodexed rom by tilde88 in rom section. Not sure of all the details though. I'm assuming you would lose some functionality...would need to flash stock kernel as well.
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Yeah definitely, I think it is a little bit too early, for me at least, to expetiment with a deodexed ROM. But I know there will be some awesome developments coming out soon. I was so happy to see that a root was figured out for the V20 so quickly after it was released. Until then, I will keep experimenting with the stock ROM.
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What is your leading source of battery drain under system usage?
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Hi Swizzle82, thank you for the reply. It is kind of difficult for me to pinpoint what the leading source of battery drain is because the apps seem to bunch all detected processes and wakelocks together. I know that Call Services & Android System show up on top a lot of the time, but since I factory reset the phone today, the stats are minimal compared to what I previously had. WeChat also uses resources, but I used that app all the time on my Note7 and previous phones, even more than I do now, and it never caused a problem. I attached some screenshots from GSam, BetterBatteryStats, Wakelock Detector, and CPU Spy Reloaded., I don't know if they will help, but just switching between those few apps and taking some screenshots over the span of 6 minutes, my battery percentage dropped from 79% to 76%.

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Yeah definitely, I think it is a little bit too early, for me at least, to expetiment with a deodexed ROM. But I know there will be some awesome developments coming out soon. I was so happy to see that a root was figured out for the V20 so quickly after it was released. Until then, I will keep experimenting with the stock ROM.
Hi Swizzle82, thank you for the reply. It is kind of difficult for me to pinpoint what the leading source of battery drain is because the apps seem to bunch all detected processes and wakelocks together. I know that Call Services & Android System show up on top a lot of the time, but since I factory reset the phone today, the stats are minimal compared to what I previously had. WeChat also uses resources, but I used that app all the time on my Note7 and previous phones, even more than I do now, and it never caused a problem. I attached some screenshots from GSam, BetterBatteryStats, Wakelock Detector, and CPU Spy Reloaded., I don't know if they will help, but just switching between those few apps and taking some screenshots over the span of 6 minutes, my battery percentage dropped from 79% to 76%.
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I had android system for a while killing me.. I factory reset and setup every app one by one with no data transfer or anything. Installed every app like it's first install. I charged it til it reached 100 percent, with the phone plugged in, I went to data/system/batterystars.bin and deleted that file and rebooted. It was a long process but it hasn't been an issue since. This was when the phone first came out last month. Never knew which apps data it was but it is gone now.

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I had android system for a while killing me.. I factory reset and setup every app one by one with no data transfer or anything. Installed every app like it's first install. I charged it til it reached 100 percent, with the phone plugged in, I went to data/system/batterystars.bin and deleted that file and rebooted. It was a long process but it hasn't been an issue since. This was when the phone first came out last month. Never knew which apps data it was but it is gone now.
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That sounds like a good idea to try. I will do this today since I already factory reset it yesterday. I would rather do it now before I get further into using it again. I have not heard about this until you mentioned it so maybe there is an issue with app transfers with the V20 causing it. The battery does seem to drain less than before, but it seems like there are still some issues. Thank you for the suggestion!

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That sounds like a good idea to try. I will do this today since I already factory reset it yesterday. I would rather do it now before I get further into using it again. I have not heard about this until you mentioned it so maybe there is an issue with app transfers with the V20 causing it. The battery does seem to drain less than before, but it seems like there are still some issues. Thank you for the suggestion!
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If you followed did the dirtysanta method, make sure you flash the Konverged kernel for the H918. Or Tilde88's 5.1 kernel for the H918. It worked wonders on improving battery life. Also make sure you disable Lookout - that drains a lot of battery it seemed to me at least. I usually get about a day and a half of battery life when I use my normal amount (which is honestly quite a bit).
Twisted

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If you followed did the dirtysanta method, make sure you flash the Konverged kernel for the H918. Or Tilde88's 5.1 kernel for the H918. It worked wonders on improving battery life. Also make sure you disable Lookout - that drains a lot of battery it seemed to me at least. I usually get about a day and a half of battery life when I use my normal amount (which is honestly quite a bit).
Twisted
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Okay, thanks for letting me know! I have not even looked at those kernels thinking they weren't cross compatible with H910. I am going to try it right now with the dirtysanta method. I will disable Lookout, as well. There are a ton of apps that I never use that drain the battery. I will let you know how it goes :good:

Did you own a V10 or other Lg phone prior?

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Did you own a V10 or other Lg phone prior?
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No, I had the Note7 before getting the LG V20. Before that I had a Note 4 and a Droid Turbo. This is my first LG phone and I really do love it. I actually like it more than the Note7, the only problem I have is the battery. I do think that factory resetting and manually installing the apps instead of restoring them will help, and using the Konverged kernel seems promising, from what I am reading.

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No, I had the Note7 before getting the LG V20. Before that I had a Note 4 and a Droid Turbo. This is my first LG phone and I really do love it. I actually like it more than the Note7, the only problem I have is the battery. I do think that factory resetting and manually installing the apps instead of restoring them will help, and using the Konverged kernel seems promising, from what I am reading.
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Yup I always start fresh and install apps manually anytime I reset my phone. I think it's always nice to start fresh - even if it is sometimes a bit inconvenient to go through all the apps you've installed and choosing which ones to install. Hopefully you get it all sorted out!

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I had android system for a while killing me.. I factory reset and setup every app one by one with no data transfer or anything. Installed every app like it's first install. I charged it til it reached 100 percent, with the phone plugged in, I went to data/system/batterystars.bin and deleted that file and rebooted. It was a long process but it hasn't been an issue since. This was when the phone first came out last month. Never knew which apps data it was but it is gone now.
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Yup I always start fresh and install apps manually anytime I reset my phone. I think it's always nice to start fresh - even if it is sometimes a bit inconvenient to go through all the apps you've installed and choosing which ones to install. Hopefully you get it all sorted out!
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Okay, I just factory reset the phone, rooted it with DirtySanta, and flashed the Konverged kernel and the phone is NOTICEABLY faster and smoother! This is great! Each time I reset the phone, it had noticeable lag. I just figured it would go away over time, which it did, and that it was because it had to load and download everything since it was fresh. But with the Konverged kernel, it has none of the lag and is silky smooth! Time to manually install the apps I want and disable some stuff I don't need. I will update you guys after I see how the battery is with the new setup Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate all the input!:good:

I need your help! I changed the screen cover sensor to off not realizing that I would not be able to turn off the static after rebooting my phone since the sensor is off. Would somebody please post a few screenshots showing how to navigate to the screen sensor settings so I can tap my way there and turn it back on? I am trying but there is no way to tell where to tap with all the static. Thank you!
Nevermind, I fixed it! I finally navigated to the second screen settings and turned it off when the screen is off and that got rid of the static after I turned the screen off then on again. Note to self, never do that again LOL.

nikktrikk said:
I need your help! I changed the screen cover sensor to off not realizing that I would not be able to turn off the static after rebooting my phone since the sensor is off. Would somebody please post a few screenshots showing how to navigate to the screen sensor settings so I can tap my way there and turn it back on? I am trying but there is no way to tell where to tap with all the static. Thank you!
Nevermind, I fixed it! I finally navigated to the second screen settings and turned it off when the screen is off and that got rid of the static after I turned the screen off then on again. Note to self, never do that again LOL.
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Wow I'm fairly impressed you managed to do all that with the static screen haha - glad to hear it worked out for you in the end.

Get me your stock system.img and boot.img, and I'll make you a modded ROM with a custom kernel!

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Wow I'm fairly impressed you managed to do all that with the static screen haha - glad to hear it worked out for you in the end.
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Haha yeah, I never knew something like that could cause such a huge problem. Now I can't seem to find what I did to cause that in the first place. I have been looking through all of the settings and can't seem to find anything that affects the proximity sensor. On top of that, the screen rotation stopped working, it will not rotate when I turn the phone to the side to type. I have toggled all of the motion and second screen settings, calibrated the motion sensor, and nothing is affecting it. When I turn the main screen off, the sensor does not shut off the second screen when I cover it with my finger, and the phone does not recognize when I rotate the screen. I am kind of at a loss on how to fix it.