Or other US carriers for that matter. I'm curious what other opinions are, especially since most of you are probably more informed than me.
Disable the FM radio?
Put non-removable AT&T software links, maybe on the home page.
Add some proprietary content to the Blink feed?
Paint their name on the front (a given).
Remove Google Maps in favor of AT&T Navigator?
I've had AT&T phones where free services like Where and Wikipedia were unable to be installed because there was a proprietary version pre-installed that required a monthly charge. The only phone I've seen that didn't have all the bloatware and locked apps was the iPhone. Or unlocked phones I bought from the manufacturer.
I haven't had a recent AT&T high end smartphone other than iPhones so I don't know if they still do their dirty deeds. If there are non-removable apps will a different launcher get rid of them?
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Or other US carriers for that matter. I'm curious what other opinions are, especially since most of you are probably more informed than me.
Disable the FM radio?
Put non-removable AT&T software links, maybe on the home page.
Add some proprietary content to the Blink feed?
Paint their name on the front (a given).
Remove Google Maps in favor of AT&T Navigator?
I've had AT&T phones where free services like Where and Wikipedia were unable to be installed because there was a proprietary version pre-installed that required a monthly charge. The only phone I've seen that didn't have all the bloatware and locked apps was the iPhone. Or unlocked phones I bought from the manufacturer.
I haven't had a recent AT&T high end smartphone other than iPhones so I don't know if they still do their dirty deeds. If there are non-removable apps will a different launcher get rid of them?
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I don't care what they do as long as they don't slap a F'ing logo of theirs on it. I don't want to rep AT&T. I wan't to rep HTC. It's just dumb. I like the addition of the HTC logo on the front, Id prefer it be HTC no AT&T. Don't want a logo on the back either. Of course Id rather them do nothing at all but thats the biggest thing to me. Im pretty sure every carrier in US has the FM radio disabled for it btw.
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I don't care what they do as long as they don't slap a F'ing logo of theirs on it. I don't want to rep AT&T. I wan't to rep HTC. It's just dumb. I like the addition of the HTC logo on the front, Id prefer it be HTC no AT&T. Don't want a logo on the back either. Of course Id rather them do nothing at all but thats the biggest thing to me. Im pretty sure every carrier in US has the FM radio disabled for it btw.
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I think the logo's a done deal.
FM is disturbing though, maybe a custom ROM could reactivate it.
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I think the logo's a done deal.
FM is disturbing though, maybe a custom ROM could reactivate it.
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Its very possible but I'm hoping HTC stood up for themselves and requested that the physical aspect of the device go untouched.
How was the One X in this regard?
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How was the One X in this regard?
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The AT&T logo was stamped on the front glass portion of the device. Not terribly annoying, but it still sort of took away from the looks of the phone.
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I'll go look in the One X forum to see if there's any threads about this. I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to spend an extra $350 for an unlocked one. Last time I had a phone loaded with AT&T crapware (and a disabled FM radio) it was a constant source of irritation. I assume with a device of the One's quality and price they could never get away with the stuff I saw, like disabling the GPS unless you activated Navigator for $10 a month. But I also expect they'll do something irritating.
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I'll go look in the One X forum to see if there's any threads about this. I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to spend an extra $350 for an unlocked one. Last time I had a phone loaded with AT&T crapware (and a disabled FM radio) it was a constant source of irritation. I assume with a device of the One's quality and price they could never get away with the stuff I saw, like disabling the GPS unless you activated Navigator for $10 a month. But I also expect they'll do something irritating.
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Yeah, I use AT&T and I'm tempted to get the Developer Edition of the HTC One, even though the price makes me wince a bit.
I had seen a picture of AT&T's HTC One whenever their page first went up. If I remember correctly, there was only a small silver globe (no AT&T lettering) above the Beats logo. This was on the silver version though.
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The picture was small, so zooming in didn't provide the greatest results. But it's clear that there's a small AT&T logo right above the Beats Audio branding. Honestly, that's probably the best and least noticeable place they could've put it. It definitely doesn't deter me at all from the getting the One on AT&T (considering I get it over the S4, which is a toss up at this point).
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If that's how they did the logo then it won't bother me, but really the logo was the least of my concerns. I'm more wondering about the bloatware and non-removable apps, disabled FM radio and any other changes they might make to the stock phone.
Good on them for making the logo so tasteful.
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If that's how they did the logo then it won't bother me, but really the logo was the least of my concerns. I'm more wondering about the bloatware and non-removable apps, disabled FM radio and any other changes they might make to the stock phone.
Good on them for making the logo so tasteful.
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I'm wondering if it will be possible to replace the software from the AT&T version with that of the international version. I mean, I know there will be stock roms, but didn't something like what I'm explaining happen with the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus? Anyway, are there really going to be any hardware differences between the AT&T and international One? Because if there won't be, this might be possible.
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wow thats great, i was afraid that they would replace the htc logo between the physical buttons with their crappy att logo
and ATT will want their phones to not be on the list for bootloader unlocking.... like what happened to the One X
They would add diamonds to it. Also a portable toilet...and I heard Colbert report right next to you all the time
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I have my htc G1 on order in black who ordered and in which color
Mine is on order also.... and it's black. Does anyone know if there is a web page for the android marketplace? I would love to see what kind of apps are already on there.
Also does anyone know how to unlock it yet? I am on t-mobile but I don't like the idea that my phone is locked to their network.
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Mine is on order also.... and it's black. Does anyone know if there is a web page for the android marketplace? I would love to see what kind of apps are already on there.
Also does anyone know how to unlock it yet? I am on t-mobile but I don't like the idea that my phone is locked to their network.
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The CTO for T-Mobile US stated the other day that T-Mobile will continue their policy of providing unlock codes free of charge to customers in good standing, so at the worst, you'd have to wait 90 days for a free unlock code.
Sounds good... another reason to love T-Mobile over ATT (try getting an unlock code for an iPhone)
anyone know if there is some place to browse the android marketplace online?
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Mine is on order also.... and it's black. Does anyone know if there is a web page for the android marketplace? I would love to see what kind of apps are already on there.
Also does anyone know how to unlock it yet? I am on t-mobile but I don't like the idea that my phone is locked to their network.
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http://www.android.com/market.html
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http://www.android.com/market.html
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Thanks! I searched for it yesterday and didn't find anything.
Anyone know if it will have GCC and libs so we can compile any linux app on it like mplayer or pidgin?
oredered it yesterday in black
Ordering in a few days was anyone able to order the white version of the phone or at least it looked white on all the vids could have been silver I guess.
tmobile only offering black and brown colors the white im thinkin was just an test phone
does the G1 have an accelerometer? i was watch a video the other day that showed it in google maps in some weird view and when he would move the phone around it would move around in google maps.
Yes the phone has a accelerometer built in. And I have a blck one on order:0
ah i think i might get me one now.
i was going for either the diamond or HD but now that i know this has an accelerometer, im super down for this cool [cheaper] phone
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Sounds good... another reason to love T-Mobile over ATT (try getting an unlock code for an iPhone)
anyone know if there is some place to browse the android marketplace online?
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That's an ignorant statement, AT&T allows unlocking of every device except the iPhone. So, in more comparison, you should have said "Sounds good... Another reason to have T-Mobile over AT&T (Try getting an unlock code for a Fuze)" and in that case, you will be able to without issue. Furthermore, T-Mobile restricts you to 1 unlock code per 90 days, AT&T does not have that limit, or if they do, it's never been applied to me.
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ah i think i might get me one now.
i was going for either the diamond or HD but now that i know this has an accelerometer, im super down for this cool [cheaper] phone
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It has an accelerometer and a built in digital compass, which is what gives you the ability to turn like that in Google Maps. The compass is a neat feature, definitely not a make or break, just something to wow your friends with.
*holds up hand* Black.
I was on the fence for a while because the whole 1 gig cap is a big burn for me. (I use my dash as my "slow speed internet modem" for my desktop) But all good things must come to an end and I didn't SEE anything about the 1G cap on the Tmo site. (can anyone confirm/deny the existence of said DL limit??)
Also, I'm pretty sure that some sort of desktop synch will be hacked out sooner than later so.. I ordered.
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*holds up hand* Black.
I was on the fence for a while because the whole 1 gig cap is a big burn for me. (I use my dash as my "slow speed internet modem" for my desktop) But all good things must come to an end and I didn't SEE anything about the 1G cap on the Tmo site. (can anyone confirm/deny the existence of said DL limit??)
Also, I'm pretty sure that some sort of desktop synch will be hacked out sooner than later so.. I ordered.
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Yes, it's on the pre-order site for the G1 I believe, at the bottom in fine print. I'll see if I can find it and get back to you. Here ya go:
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The G1's data cap that Tmo had originally stated in their docs has been lifted, they rewrote the terms after backlash from the blogosphere. It has an accelerometer, A-GPS, and several other fun things. Here's a link to a post describing the tech specs in detail:
http://gizmodo.com/5053264/t+mobile-g1-full-details-of-the-htc-dream-android-phone
And the master Giz post for all sorts of info on this handset:
http://gizmodo.com/5054378/t+mobile-g1-info-dump
and just for reference, here's the post about them ditching the 1GB Cap:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/09/25/t-mobile-wisely-folds-ditches-1gb-htc-g1-data-cap/
And yes, I preordered an hour after the press conference, in black.
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The G1's data cap that Tmo had originally stated in their docs has been lifted, they rewrote the terms after backlash from the blogosphere.
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So where can these re-written terms be found?
Found the only info I could, so it's official, it's been lifted:
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/007798.html
HOWEVER...
"We reserve the right to temporarily reduce data throughput for a small fraction of our customers who have excessive or disproportionate usage that interferes with our network performance or our ability to provide quality service to all of our customers..."
Well, that could mean "disproportionate usage" is more than 1GB, and they're just phrasing it differently so more people will buy in.
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/t-mobile-kills.html
Link to the Wired article stating the TOS was rewritten.
chorca said:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/t-mobile-kills.html
Link to the Wired article stating the TOS was rewritten.
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Yes but read the quote I just posted, they didn't change their policy, only put it much more vaguely without citing a specific amount of data.
So heres the story. i called google because my power button wouldnt work.. they checked my IMEI and said it wasnt on their database.. so they transfered me to HTC. The rep told me that I have what they call a holiday nexus. there were only a 1000 made and given to google employees for testing. he told me that it had a different bootloader and that it was a collectors item. He said its value is significantly more than a normal nexus. I dont see a difference between this phone and a normal nexus one. nothing seems different other than the bootloader being unlocked from the start. Anyone care to share their thoughts and tell me what makes this phone any different?
It has S=OFF, so you can re-lock the bootloader with 'fastboot oem lock'
Also you should have an Android waving a QR code flag on the battery cover.
hmm yeah S is OFF but i dont have the Android waving a QR code flag on the back.. very weird. i wonder if the guy who sold it to me worked at google..
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i dont have the Android waving a QR code flag on the back.
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I'd love this battery cover:
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OH..I have that cover!
Check if you have S=OFF in fastboot, you might be a lucky boy...
I have one of these phones too, QR back cover and all. I doubt I'd be able to get it fixed under warranty if I need to since it was a gift from Google, so I won't be needing to relock it anyway.
OMG!
I would kill for one of those! jajaja
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So heres the story. i called google because my power button wouldnt work.. they checked my IMEI and said it wasnt on their database.. so they transfered me to HTC. The rep told me that I have what they call a holiday nexus. there were only a 1000 made and given to google employees for testing. he told me that it had a different bootloader and that it was a collectors item. He said its value is significantly more than a normal nexus. I dont see a difference between this phone and a normal nexus one. nothing seems different other than the bootloader being unlocked from the start. Anyone care to share their thoughts and tell me what makes this phone any different?
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I'm curious; did you purchase this on google.com/phone?
If not, where did you get it?
Maybe you can switch phones with cyanogen and he can play around with the bootloader to see if he can find out how the relocking of the bootloader goes. Maybe he might find something and can release something so people can relock their bootloaders. Just a thought.
If memory serves, it's not so simple & the holiday bootloader is 250kb too big for a retail phone.
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If memory serves, it's not so simple & the holiday bootloader is 250kb too big for a retail phone.
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CM is greatness. You just have to believe. haha.
Rusty! said:
If memory serves, it's not so simple & the holiday bootloader is 250kb too big for a retail phone.
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I'm sure if Cyanogen get his hands on this phone, he'd find a way to tackle this...
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I'm sure if Cyanogen get his hands on this phone, he'd find a way to tackle this...
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agreed for the good of humanity you should trade/sell/give to someone smarter than me so we can all benift from it ;-)
Not to rain on the parade, but this has already been looked at length by the developers, and the phone is of no use.
i dont have the Android waving a QR code flag on the back.
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I'd love this battery cover:
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So there absolutely has to be a place where we can buy this cover
It's just a normal one
I also have a holiday nexus one with the QR code cover (btw this links to android.com/holidays but only on a Nexus One), which I rooted a few months ago. It seems to be completely normal before unlocking, with no superuser access and apparently a locked bootloader as well. The fastboot mode shows this text (after using fastboot oem unlock and Amon Ra recovery):
*** UNLOCKED ***
NEXUSONE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.33.2012 (PB9910000)
MICROP-0a15
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0102
RADIO-4.03.00.21_2
[date]
Is this the same as a normal Nexus?
No. You can relock your bootloader.
Since the only real purpose of relocking the bootloader would be to have the phone officially covered by warranty, why is this really even useful on the "holiday" nexus if that is not covered under warranty at all anyhow?
It seems the only advantage is the battery cover then, which doesn't seem like too big of a deal.
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I'm curious; did you purchase this on google.com/phone?
If not, where did you get it?
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i got this phone off craigslist. traded my iphone 3g and 150 bucks for it. it was in perfect shape, didnt come with anything other than the phone. the guy i bought it off was very weird. he said like 5 words throughout the whole transaction. when i first got the phone, it did not have a rom installed on it. i could go into fastboot and a weird recovery. it had Hello World floating across the page when you rebooted into recovery. i just flashed the CM recovery put CM on it and its been working fine since.
Hello
Just to confirm once and for all I think this issue needs its thread because this phone IS being advertised as NFC enabled in the UK. However people are getting non nfc enabled models in the UK taking delivery today.
I will confirm in a few hours if my model is NFC enabled. Can you please post here to confirm your model is or isnt NFC enabled and where you bought it from?
Thanks.
Mine isn't (as far as I can tell) - bought from phones4u in-store
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I lived in south korea and our localise(korea) galaxy s2 support nfc.
But our carrier said that
"If u use a nfc function you will purchase nfc support usim. Normal usim cant use nfc function"
Please refer it.
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Pulverizer said:
I lived in south korea and our localise(korea) galaxy s2 support nfc.
But our carrier said that
"If u use a nfc function you will purchase nfc support usim. Normal usim cant use nfc function"
Please refer it.
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They are saying in the future the NFC antenna will be in your sim card and there will be software in the phone that can link to that, so dont be too disheartened, you may get it after all, but just not how you expected
JD
NFC WTF?!
Okkk regarding NFC;
The reason why i wanted this phone over any other dual core phone released or about to be released is because of it's NFC capabilities.
Following TechRadar's comments about the NFC being disabled or not present i dug a little deeper.
Phones4u have now removed this feature from their product spec. One of their agents said it wasn't in the briefing they've had about this phone!
After trying to call Samsumg to confirm this for the whole morning (Phone system down!) They have confirmed the UK model GT i9100 doesn't have NFC capabilities - however the girl on the phone I spoke to had absolutely noooo idea what I was talking about. she couldn't confirm any other model numbers in the SGS2 range.
WTF is going on?! for months everyone has been going on about NFC and all that pazaz, however it looks like they have failed to deliver!
I will not upgrade from my HTC Desire until there's a decent phone on the market that spouts NFC capability!
Sort it out Samsung, you nearly had my £500!!
Okay, Okay...
At least there's hope for USIM w/ NFC, but NOT at the moment--other Asian countries apart from South Korea better get NFC support, regardless.
This feature must be disabled by default. Hopefully, an option to enable NFC will come out soon.
NFC WTF?
To be honest, I'm not convinced until someone can 100% assure me that this model of phone has an NFC chip in it.
I'm not willing to invest my money into something that could be out of date within a few months when HTC adds this to their windows phones and Apple follows suit with their new iphone.
I've looked into USIM w/NFC and there isn't much out there on it for the moment, this feature should be hardwired into the phone like on the Nexus S.
If you look at the system dump of the device posted sometime back, there is a nfc.apk within the device. I dont know whats it used for but perhaps you can explore around.
looks like the dreams of the prefect phone are shattered!
I dont need NFC now, but I would like the tech to be there, for future proofing.
I will be grilling phones 4 u in attemps to get more money off.
NFC WTF?
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If you look at the system dump of the device posted sometime back, there is a nfc.apk within the device. I dont know whats it used for but perhaps you can explore around.
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I looked at the system dump but couldn't find the nfc.apk? (unless i'm being blind!) Even if i could find it maybe it's just part of the OS and not necessarily to do with the hardware...
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I looked at the system dump but couldn't find the nfc.apk? (unless i'm being blind!) Even if i could find it maybe it's just part of the OS and not necessarily to do with the hardware...
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I don't know which dump you have but the dump I got, had NFC.apk :
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From Eldars review:
http://translate.google.com/transla...ile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-s2.shtml
NFC (Near Field Communication). The phone technology is integrated NFC, with its help, in some countries constitute a system of payments, when in a parking lot or at a kiosk can pay for the purchase of your phone. Such a system will evolve, and Samsung have laid these features into the machine so that it was the best. For individual countries, this option is not available in the menu (Russia belongs to them, while at the same time, the NFC is physically present)
NFC WTF?
EleCtrOx666 said:
I don't know which dump you have but the dump I got, had NFC.apk :
Obviously I didnt read that dump file!
Basically we need some words from someone Samsungy to confirm the presence of the technology!!
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While it's disappointing that it's not there from the start, I can't say I will be too disappointed as it's still in it's infancy. What have they managed to do with NFC in the Nexus S so far?
Is it likely that it will be upgradeable to NFC down the line?
I just picked mine up from phones4u, they had stock I asked the question about NFC, only one guy there knew what it was and he says Samsung have told him that it is in the GS2. He couldn't find it in the settings so he rang Samsung who suggested there will be something to download in the future to enable it. Although if i was a betting man i'd say he was making it up!
NFC WTF?
SO did he call them while you were there? I called them this morning and they were useless, i've emailed them now too! Anyone else have any word from Samsung?!?!
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SO did he call them while you were there? I called them this morning and they were useless, i've emailed them now too! Anyone else have any word from Samsung?!?!
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Yeah he did. The Samsung rep essentially said there would be an app for that, which seems unlikely! Looking under the back cover there is nothing NFC-like, would much like to see the backside of the South Korean unit!
I can't see any reference to the NFC hardware on mine either from actually seeing the hardware like on the nexus s, or any label or software reference... (mine was given to me from samsung by being part of the Samsung Mob!lers group).
don't know if it helps, but a Quadrant dump of the sensors shows the following:
K3DH Acceleration sensor
AK8975 Magnetic field / Orientation sensor
CM3663 Light and Proximity sensor
K3G Gyroscopic sensor
Gravity sensor
Linear Acceleration sensor
Rotation Vector sensor
(more info can be seen in my review)
whether NFC is there or not, what are you going to use it on?
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whether NFC is there or not, what are you going to use it on?
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Well i have the phone on a 2 year contract, so probably quite a lot next year!
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The "when the carrier allows it" statement looks like a backdoor for Motorola.
What the heck has the carrier to care about unlocking my device? The only thing i can imagine is the fear of removing simlock,but is there actually any simlocked device?
There are simlocked Milestones elsewhere i think.. some dude told me he got a Simlocked MS2.. but thats not the problem goddam it.. my Phone is Bought WITHOUT contract and WITHOUT Provider.. thats the good thing about Europe.. we have Sim Cards.. so we can use this phone with every provider.. the point is.. it doesnt get protected of any provider means their Backdoor WOULD NOT WORK on my device.. so i wanna see what they do now.. these idiots..
Been reading this - the motorola europe team have a serious lack of support for consumers who actually use the open-sourceness of a phone...
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Been reading this - the motorola europe team have a serious lack of support for consumers who actually use the open-sourceness of a phone...
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We'll i actually cant find a reason to not unlock it.. its so frustating... annoying motorola.. wish this conversations and all the hate would go strait to the American TV lol.. atleast they would get the message from us then
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We'll i actually cant find a reason to not unlock it.. its so frustating... annoying motorola.. wish this conversations and all the hate would go strait to the American TV lol.. atleast they would get the message from us then
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You could sue Moto or get a refund? In the UK the law is if you buy a product with an incorrect description you my get a refund if you apply for a refund within I think 6 years of purchase. I bought mine in March and it said 'latest version of android' and at the time of purchase it bloody well wasn't and isn't
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You could sue Moto or get a refund? In the UK the law is if you buy a product with an incorrect description you my get a refund if you apply for a refund within I think 6 years of purchase. I bought mine in March and it said 'latest version of android' and at the time of purchase it bloody well wasn't and isn't
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Im not sure about that law in germany.. but if it exists.. it cant be under 2 years.. and in that timeline motorolas "date" will happen..so i wait until 2012... (also i have some pay contract.. wich ends 2012) so lets see if they put a Diamond lock on it.. or a paper lock so that we can easily cut the paper with a scissor.. (hope you get my stupid metaphor)
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Im not sure about that law in germany.. but if it exists.. it cant be under 2 years.. and in that timeline motorolas "date" will happen..so i wait until 2012... (also i have some pay contract.. wich ends 2012) so lets see if they put a Diamond lock on it.. or a paper lock so that we can easily cut the paper with a scissor.. (hope you get my stupid metaphor)
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I understand -.-
Motorola are really bad when it comes to customer service outside of America. Me and 2 of my friends have the Milestone 2 (I only got one because I couldn't be bothered waiting for a LGO2X and they physical keyboard) and they aren't happy either. I know people with Gingerbread on their phones and they can install ROMs as they pick and choose; Motorola are just trying to cut corners tbh and their excuses don't work. Probably 80% of the MS2s were released SIM Unlocked so to say 'depends on carrier' is pathetic. Talk about negligence
I get your point regarding the law.
But no court in Europe or elswhere could get Moto to unlock their bootloader. Maybe you could get your money back, but who really wants to go to the court for this...?
I don't know if it's just me, but I read out of it that there actually IS unlocking. I mean they said regarding unlocking bootloaders: this feature will be enabled in future software releases (later in 2011). That's a good thing isn't it.
Have you got the link to the conversation?
....only if the carriers agree. which seems like a backdoor for doing something to me.....
oTToToTenTanz said:
I don't know if it's just me, but I read out of it that there actually IS unlocking. I mean they said regarding unlocking bootloaders: this feature will be enabled in future software releases (later in 2011). That's a good thing isn't it.
Have you got the link to the conversation?
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http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150245095025499.367729.121867580498
http://i.imgur.com/ahTVV.png
I meant the original one on Facebook
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oTToToTenTanz said:
I meant the original one on Facebook
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Read carefully... its the first link
I wonder the bootloader unlock issue is applying to which regions? Is it for all moto device around the world?
My milestone 2 is bought without any carriers, but the support of moto in Asia is much poorer than in Europe. Imagine at late 2011, moto bullshiting to Asian users that our devices "cannot" be unlocked, or simply ignore us =.=
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WongJames said:
I wonder the bootloader unlock issue is applying to which regions? Is it for all moto device around the world?
My milestone 2 is bought without any carriers, but the support of moto in Asia is much poorer than in Europe. Imagine at late 2011, moto bullshiting to Asian users that our devices "cannot" be unlocked, or simply ignore us =.=
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You can always flash a foreing recovery/SBF.
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It depends on how moto would unlock our device.
Like sony ericsson, they offer bootloader unlock service that need to register the phone (IMEI I think), so that the phone will loss warranty.
Flashing a foreign sbf would not change the IMEI code, so if moto restrict the unlocking region.......
Let's see how it goes then xd
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You can always flash a foreing recovery/SBF.
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what takes them so long?
sony ericsson used a month from announcing to unlock the bootloaders to actually provide the service.
If the Function that checks the signatures is gone, we can do what we want.. no matter what they do.. we could put every Android OS on it..... even other operating systems.. thats not the problem.. also they should use the Nexus way.. a button in the bootloader to unlock it.. if you unlock it, it will show some text everytime you turn on the phone wich says "You lost your warranty by turning off the bootloader-lock" wich would be fine.. who cares if you want CM7 .. unlock it and loose your warranty.. its your own choose.. like on the Nexus.. and i would definately unlock it in the first second i got the Update lol
Nowadays, even Apple have their *ancient* versions of Mac OS to download in the institutional website - developers can download those 4MB ROMs and emulate it anywhere... Even I did it in my Nintendo DS once.
OK. That was a terrible, extreme and pessimist example... But, maybe one year after the ML2 went out of the stores ~ Motorola might play "cool" and release an unlockABLE bootloader.
aw yeah... that would be great - if only all of us were not with some brand-new "free to fly with CM and whatever" smartphones then (sometimes life teaches you the lessons the harder way). =/
well... at least in a far far away future our mothers may have their herited Milestones 2 with an awsome Custom ROM. \o/
Is the 3G reception slow like the 4G that I have heard about? I'm getting the Nexus S 4g Thursday do I would like to know.
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I was actually gonna start a thread when I saw yours. This is one of 5 or 6 speedtests I just ran a few blocks from my house. Notice I have full bars. This was actually one of the better ones. Ive learned with my NS4G that you cant judge your service by the status bar.
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The bottom two are on 1 bar of 4G...
Thats about where Im at on 4g also, but those 3g speeds are awful. and on my Evo in my area I have pulled 10 mbps on 4g. Im really torn as to what to do with my NS4G right now.
shroomz arent you a tech or something? i have some questions if you could help. they may relate to this thread also
Must use speakeasy.net
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
They have much more accurate results. Speedtest app seems to be buggy on the ns4g
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shroomz arent you a tech or something? i have some questions if you could help. they may relate to this thread also
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I work retentions... so technically... I'm everything.
Top 3 were from the same time as the other screen, the rrest are 4g or wifi. Shroomz, you work for sprint, Im curious. Do you agree there is an issue with the NS4G?
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Top 3 were from the same time as the other screen, the rrest are 4g or wifi. Shroomz, you work for sprint, Im curious. Do you agree there is an issue with the NS4G?
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It is a known issue, yes.
They really should just allow us to swap to a 3D to something, cause the speeds I get are about as atrocious as mikey's
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They really should just allow us to swap to a 3D to something, cause the speeds I get are about as atrocious as mikey's
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Agreed (not the 3D part... you will never get swapped up to a flagship phone) but then this is also where the "you had 30 days" comes into place. Not trying to be a bad guy, I work for retentions and I get thousands of "this phone sucks" 31 days or 45 days or 60 days after it was purchased. Just like you, we have rules we have to follow at the work place and policies in place so, no, it's not that we don't want to help, but you as the customer must also help yourself. A corporation like Sprint, TMo, AT&T and Verizon can not hold all of their customers hands. If you had issues, return the device, replace it, get another and let the company know that the phone is not working that way, by not purchasing that device - getting a device and "hoping" for a fix is not a good strategy and you're only setting yourself up for failure.
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I work retentions... so technically... I'm everything.
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ok so under under status theres MIN and it should be a 10 digit phone number with your same area code.
now if you enter *#*#msl number#*#* and go to edit where you see the MSID, what should the number there be? the same as the MIN? and should it be editable?
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ok so under under status theres MIN and it should be a 10 digit phone number with your same area code.
now if you enter *#*#msl number#*#* and go to edit where you see the MSID, what should the number there be? the same as the MIN? and should it be editable?
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Your MSID is random and it doesn't necessarily have to be the same area code as your phone number.
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Your MSID is random and it doesn't necessarily have to be the same area code as your phone number.
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so if i see it in view mode and it does match the MIN always then im good? when i view it in edit mode its either 0000000000 or it says unknown, whats with that? advanced tech support said i should be able to edit it to that previous number but its not editable, is it supposed to be? i dont really wanna take it in for some guy to do everything ive already done just so he can master reset it after ive done that 5 times today.
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so if i see it in view mode and it does match the MIN always then im good? when i view it in edit mode its either 0000000000 or it says unknown, whats with that? advanced tech support said i should be able to edit it to that previous number but its not editable, is it supposed to be? i dont really wanna take it in for some guy to do everything ive already done just so he can master reset it after ive done that 5 times today.
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Got me there... that's past my level of tech support. As far as I understand, it shouldn't be editable.
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Agreed (not the 3D part... you will never get swapped up to a flagship phone) but then this is also where the "you had 30 days" comes into place. Not trying to be a bad guy, I work for retentions and I get thousands of "this phone sucks" 31 days or 45 days or 60 days after it was purchased. Just like you, we have rules we have to follow at the work place and policies in place so, no, it's not that we don't want to help, but you as the customer must also help yourself. A corporation like Sprint, TMo, AT&T and Verizon can not hold all of their customers hands. If you had issues, return the device, replace it, get another and let the company know that the phone is not working that way, by not purchasing that device - getting a device and "hoping" for a fix is not a good strategy and you're only setting yourself up for failure.
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Well the reason I mentioned the 3D is because it is the same price as the NS4G is/was on upgrade ($199). I figure they are basically just crediting what you paid, and most people would probably go to the 3D is they were gonna swap phones. If I paid $199 and the phone has a pretty glaring defect, I would want the amount I paid as a credit... that's all I meant.
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Well the reason I mentioned the 3D is because it is the same price as the NS4G is/was on upgrade ($199). I figure they are basically just crediting what you paid, and most people would probably go to the 3D is they were gonna swap phones. If I paid $199 and the phone has a pretty glaring defect, I would want the amount I paid as a credit... that's all I meant.
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Yeah I understand but unfortunately prices don't mean much honestly.
If there isn't an update to address this soon, as much as I love it, ill go back to the Evo til the photon comes.
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If there isn't an update to address this soon, as much as I love it, ill go back to the Evo til the photon comes.
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Or the Shine. It is rumored to be released late July.
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Got me there... that's past my level of tech support. As far as I understand, it shouldn't be editable.
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yea and from what i found its not. thanks tho you confirmed what i find out and im not gonna let some dude mess with it doing what ive done to find out what i already know