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I remember reading awhile ago an interview with one of the CM developers saying that he's sick of samsung not updating/releasing their exynos codes and as such he stopped develpoing for samsung devices.
As i'm looking to upgrade my s2 to a new phone I'm wondering if we'll see better support from samsung for the developers this time.
any thoughts?
two words- ignore exynos
tal123 said:
I remember reading awhile ago an interview with one of the CM developers saying that he's sick of samsung not updating/releasing their exynos codes and as such he stopped develpoing for samsung devices.
As i'm looking to upgrade my s2 to a new phone I'm wondering if we'll see better support from samsung for the developers this time.
any thoughts?
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i9505 is a much better choice if you want the stock Android experience. Don't know if you missed it, but Google are launching a Google Edition of the S4(SD600 version), which means it'll be much better supported than the i9500.
yeah just a shame that the exynos version is the only version you can buy in some country's(mine included)
would be much easier buying that one over the GE one!
check areas of custom rom, there more for exynos.
lol I got the qualcom version. haven't seen exynos version is that the I9500 ?
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LastStandingDroid said:
lol I got the qualcom version. haven't seen exynos version is that the I9500 ?
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Exynos version is i9500 (plus I believe one Korean version and one Chinese version). Which so far has no CM/AOSP support whatsoever. All of the former Exynos CM maintainers have stopped working with Samsungs, leaving only those who worked with Snapdragon-based Samsungs (of which there were quite a few...) still working on Samsung devices. So far not a single person with a track record of doing good CM bringups/maintenance has stated their intention to touch the Exynos variant.
Snapdragon versions are I9505, I337, M919, not sure what the Verizon and Sprint versions are. M919 got CM support from Cyanogen himself within a day or two of launch, and all other Snapdragon versions are just needing maintainers. Of the Snapdragon versions, the I9505 seems to be getting the least attention. (Except for maybe the bootloader-locked I337...) But the I9505 can leverage M919 and other Snapdragon work, the Exynos version stands on its own, sharing nothing with any other device.
Entropy512 said:
Exynos version is i9500 (plus I believe one Korean version and one Chinese version). Which so far has no CM/AOSP support whatsoever. All of the former Exynos CM maintainers have stopped working with Samsungs, leaving only those who worked with Snapdragon-based Samsungs (of which there were quite a few...) still working on Samsung devices. So far not a single person with a track record of doing good CM bringups/maintenance has stated their intention to touch the Exynos variant.
Snapdragon versions are I9505, I337, M919, not sure what the Verizon and Sprint versions are. M919 got CM support from Cyanogen himself within a day or two of launch, and all other Snapdragon versions are just needing maintainers. Of the Snapdragon versions, the I9505 seems to be getting the least attention. (Except for maybe the bootloader-locked I337...) But the I9505 can leverage M919 and other Snapdragon work, the Exynos version stands on its own, sharing nothing with any other device.
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some people are trying port cm to exynos but with no samsung support must be painful, samething happen with gs3
When I buy my GS3 When release the development was to high ci only see now 2 or 4 roms why so poor ?? Other fee grear kernels like franco siyah kernel now only have 2 custom kernels
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what version of s4 you have ?
There are quite a few stock ROMs for the I9500 but, in terms of CM10.1 and the like, you will need to wait until someone gets around to overcoming the closed source nature of Exynos the phone contains.
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He has the I9500 as posted by tapatalk sig. The I9505 will have greater development. But it's still relatively new for both models anyway.
U guys think that some one will be close to the sources ?? The i9300 has support for cm
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x.Orville.x said:
U guys think that some one will be close to the sources ?? The i9300 has support for cm
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The S3 has CM because the CM team bust a gut to get it working with no help from Samsung. And its still not working 100%. As a result of this and Samsung's broken promises they have decided to swerve the Exynos S4.
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If you want developer support you have to stay away from Exynos. Samsung is an a..hole S4 will be my last Samsung device.
Pagnell said:
The S3 has CM because the CM team bust a gut to get it working with no help from Samsung. And its still not working 100%. As a result of this and Samsung's broken promises they have decided to swerve the Exynos S4.
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It helped that the Exynos4 Quad (4412) had a lot of commonality with the Exynos4 Dual (4210) in the GS2.
But it's been no secret since September that the Exynos 4412 was the end of the line for those of us that worked with Exynos unless Samsung made significant changes. Someone else might step up, but it's pretty unlikely IMO. All of the ex-Teamhacksung guys are working with various Qcoms now.
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It helped that the Exynos4 Quad (4412) had a lot of commonality with the Exynos4 Dual (4210) in the GS2.
But it's been no secret since September that the Exynos 4412 was the end of the line for those of us that worked with Exynos unless Samsung made significant changes. Someone else might step up, but it's pretty unlikely IMO. All of the ex-Teamhacksung guys are working with various Qcoms now.
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Coming from a CM member that must be really depressing news for I9500 owners who would rather not be on Touchwiz.
I have the S4 i9500 and the HTC ONE and it looks like the ONE gets lot more attention from the devs...
and that is to bad.. the stock version is very lagy in comparing to the HTC
srstas said:
I have the S4 i9500 and the HTC ONE and it looks like the ONE gets lot more attention from the devs...
and that is to bad..
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Blame Samsung.
Hey guys,
So I have been using an HTC ONE X for qute some time now, and I want to get a new phone.
I live in Europe so no contracts on nothing.
The main question is should I get the GT-I9500 or the GT-I9505, so the Exynos or the Snapdragon one ?
I have never owned an Samsung phone yet so pardon my possibly dumb questions, as every phone I had yet was an HTC.
I am sick of HTC's S-ON and limitations, so I decided my next phone should be the S4, but what version of it ?
I see that there are quite a lit of custom roms and kernels for the I9505 but very few for the I9500, does that mean that this will stay this way in the future ?
I want to have a phone that I can root, flash custom roms, kernel, mods, and experiment on it, but in the same time I want it to be fast, even on stock rom.
If you want to have a very customizable phone (+ google play edition software) go with the i9505. The exynos version is slightly faster and a bit more battery efficient.
Check these out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmDqyYgBm7Y
If want different roms like miui,cm and others
Buy i9505 or i9505G
I9500 faster but right now there's no aosp or other custom roms for it
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I suggest you for wait a little while for Galaxy S5 or Note 3 that coming this September ; )
Galaxy S4 is a fantastic device but, its already August so if you love Note you can go for the next Generation
or wait early next year for S5... its all about waiting.
If you can't wait go for S4
If you love stock Android and CM and Android purest go for GT I9505
if you love TouchWiz and not interested in heavy customization go for GT I9500
The Note is far too big for me so I'll stick with 4.7 - 5.0 inch screen phones for now...
I don't know if waiting is a good idea since, where I live, new phones tend to arrive 3-4 moths after their release, so IF the S5 would come out in January 2014, I could buy it Sometime in April or May
9500 was considered slightly faster but since benchmark tricks came to daylight who knows if it's so obvious... ;]
Anyway go for the one for your country, if both get 9505, great device for me. Definitely wouldn't replace it.
With the latest update I've noticed that it's capable to fix gps even inside some concrete buildings. Don't know how it's possible...
Snapdragon Galaxy S4
The i9500 has less support, the i9505 is much more popular among developers
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I would suggest you to go for i9500 becuase the only drawback in it was about aosp roms which will soon be available for it. It is slightly faster than i9505, camera is a bit better and even games runs slightly better because of processing speed as well as gpu.
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Many reviews have the i9505 slightly beating the i9500 by a small margin in battery life. Camera and speed is slightly on i9500 better though the difference is marginal. If you want to be able to play with aosp roms then the i9505 is the only way to go. The i9500 will never come close in this regard because the snapdragon chipset is more open and developer friendly. It's used in several phones so there are many more developers who have familiarity with it and it's far less painful to develop for. Also the Google edition is built off the i9505.
So really do you want a slightly better camera and marginally fastet processor or a much more lively development scene?
It's entirely up to you at the end of the day.
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the 9500 is more powerful, the camera and sound seem better , but it isn't footling
the 9505 is supportted better, it has AOSP and the support of CM team and 9500 doesn't
dr.m0x said:
Many reviews have the i9505 slightly beating the i9500 by a small margin in battery life. Camera and speed is slightly on i9500 better though the difference is marginal. If you want to be able to play with aosp roms then the i9505 is the only way to go. The i9500 will never come close in this regard because the snapdragon chipset is more open and developer friendly. It's used in several phones so there are many more developers who have familiarity with it and it's far less painful to develop for. Also the Google edition is built off the i9505.
So really do you want a slightly better camera and marginally fastet processor or a much more lively development scene?
It's entirely up to you at the end of the day.
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Well then, Seems like there is only one way to go.
GT-I9505 it is.
The 9505 had 4g while the 9500 doesn't. That's the main reason why I use the 9505......I love 4g and just can't go back.
Not sure if that matters to you though.
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sxi200 said:
The 9505 had 4g while the 9500 doesn't. That's the main reason why I use the 9505......I love 4g and just can't go back.
Not sure if that matters to you though.
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Not at all as there is no LTE in Europe, or at least not in the part i live in
dr.m0x said:
Many reviews have the i9505 slightly beating the i9500 by a small margin in battery life. Camera and speed is slightly on i9500 better though the difference is marginal. If you want to be able to play with aosp roms then the i9505 is the only way to go. The i9500 will never come close in this regard because the snapdragon chipset is more open and developer friendly. It's used in several phones so there are many more developers who have familiarity with it and it's far less painful to develop for. Also the Google edition is built off the i9505.
So really do you want a slightly better camera and marginally fastet processor or a much more lively development scene?
It's entirely up to you at the end of the day.
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This is exactly what has been driving me crazy! I was looking for an exact answer to the i9500 v/s i9505 with respect to dev support. However, i have also seen several replies (in this very thread and elsewhere on XDA) that support is coming for i9500 which should balance the scale in terms of dev support for i9500, which should bring it on par with the dev support for i9505. Is that true?
I have also done some research with my limited knowledge of the android dev scene and correct me if i'm wrong but i have arrived at the conclusion that Samsung will never release the sources for Exynos Octa, but Qualcomm does release sources for its Snapdragon chipsets, which means that as of now and into the future, the i9505 is the best option to enjoy more custom ROMS with better stability due to better support from officially available binaries from Qualcomm. Am i correct in all my assumptions?
electronical said:
This is exactly what has been driving me crazy! I was looking for an exact answer to the i9500 v/s i9505 with respect to dev support. However, i have also seen several replies (in this very thread and elsewhere on XDA) that support is coming for i9500 which should balance the scale in terms of dev support for i9500, which should bring it on par with the dev support for i9505. Is that true?
I have also done some research with my limited knowledge of the android dev scene and correct me if i'm wrong but i have arrived at the conclusion that Samsung will never release the sources for Exynos Octa, but Qualcomm does release sources for its Snapdragon chipsets, which means that as of now and into the future, the i9505 is the best option to enjoy more custom ROMS with better stability due to better support from officially available binaries from Qualcomm. Am i correct in all my assumptions?
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Yup. Bang on the money. The i9500 will get aosp roms but they will never be as stable as the ones for the i9505.
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My dad has a Samsung captivate(SGH-i897)(captivatemtd)(AT&T version of the original Galaxy S), currently running an official cm11 build.
I see that you don't support it (don't blame ya), but I also see that you support the Galaxy S (i9000).
The specs look identical to me... is it possible that the Galaxy S build would work on his Captivate?
Sorry, I'm new to this.
Thanks though!
I look for new phone, i9506 is in my opinion best phone for me, because it can record 1080p60 fps and S5 is too big and more expensive.
However in Galaxy S series I appreciate the support. By now I have first SGS and it still has daily updates. What do you think about i9506 in this respect? Will it have newer androids in next years?
przemek211 said:
I look for new phone, i9506 is in my opinion best phone for me, because it can record 1080p60 fps and S5 is too big and more expensive.
However in Galaxy S series I appreciate the support. By now I have first SGS and it still has daily updates. What do you think about i9506 in this respect? Will it have newer androids in next years?
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Heya mate,
main difference between these 2 models is their location use, i9505 is more available in europe whereas 9506 is produced for the east...
as for galaxy s4 in general, I already own it and it works great for me, just stick with the newest official rom and you won't have any problems, keep flashing the up-to-date version for your country from sammobile and you are good to go!