[Q] Can I Go From 6.12.181.XT912 to JellyBean XT912? - Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So i'm still on 12.181, i got into rooting briefly some time ago, and quickly fell off the band wagon. Recently I have been having issues with my 4G on my verizon razr maxx. I call Verizon and ask if they are having issues with their towers or anything, they give me the typical script back, but the guy mentions to me that his was doing this also and he was not wanting to do the OTA update(probably rooted). He stated he finally broke down and updated and the 4g issues was fixed. So I'm at the point now where I'm trying to unroot my phone, and then do the OTA update, but have had no luck. All the links to the Razr Utility 1.6 are broken or require premium membership to get. I found the Jelly Bean XT912 by mattlgroff(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192467) and have looked around to see if I can go straight from my old version to JB using his utility. I have done a factory restore, but the OTA is still failing. So this is why I'm asking if it's possible.

chavezcraz said:
So i'm still on 12.181, i got into rooting briefly some time ago, and quickly fell off the band wagon. Recently I have been having issues with my 4G on my verizon razr maxx. I call Verizon and ask if they are having issues with their towers or anything, they give me the typical script back, but the guy mentions to me that his was doing this also and he was not wanting to do the OTA update(probably rooted). He stated he finally broke down and updated and the 4g issues was fixed. So I'm at the point now where I'm trying to unroot my phone, and then do the OTA update, but have had no luck. All the links to the Razr Utility 1.6 are broken or require premium membership to get. I found the Jelly Bean XT912 by mattlgroff(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192467) and have looked around to see if I can go straight from my old version to JB using his utility. I have done a factory restore, but the OTA is still failing. So this is why I'm asking if it's possible.
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I found my answer. It appears I have to be on ICS first before going to JB. I see a lot of people not too impressed with JB. So maybe I'll just sit on ICS. Thanks all.

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Leaked Version Gets No update.?.

I just read that motorola is locking the leakers out of the official update. Now, is this even a trivial matter. Can't you just downgrade to 2.1 and then upgrade to the ota.
xxjekelxx said:
I just read that motorola is locking the leakers out of the official update. Now, is this even a trivial matter. Can't you just downgrade to 2.1 and then upgrade to the ota.
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Yeah man, what you read is true. Good ole' Moto has decided to block us out. Luckily we can always downgrade and then OTA.
All I need is someone to post a video on how to do this. Step by Step like am a complete noob with no idea of what is going on. Anyone up for the challenge?
wouldn't you just use rsd lite and flash the sbf back to stock. Also what if this is a trap set up by motorola to get people back on their software. Im thinking...since motorola is so shady, anyway....that its just a little fishy. After the eris leak, i think a lot of people are pretty certain on a way out before they flash something. You would think that motorola would know this as well....im just sayin'
You have to sbf your device.. After that it still wont boot, so once your done sbf"ing you go into the factory recovery and do a reset, good to go
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Joe92T said:
You have to sbf your device.. After that it still wont boot, so once your done sbf"ing you go into the factory recovery and do a reset, good to go
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I would love it if you would write a guide detailing what the hell you just said. I have no idea what SBF is. Haha I know, I know. There are guides but I am sure there is more than one person who knows little about this and would like something step by step to follow.
To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
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Thought I'd add the link from engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/30/motorola-says-leaked-droid-x-android-2-2-build-wont-be-updated/
I totally love my X, but Motorola's over-the-top hostility towards the modding community is starting to wear on me. I know that they could give two ****s about having me as a customer, but I am considering moving on to a Fascinate.
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To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
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that stinks! If they did that, I may be screwed in terms of resale value.
To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
has verizon done this with a previous phone? I put a custom rom on a droid1 and then took it back to stock 2.0.1 and then upgraded ota. I was just wondering if verizon has done this to any of their phones before
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Just found this from AndroidLive:
The Motorola Support Forums mentioned the following today…
"WARNING: Do NOT load the leaked 2.2 upgrade that has been floating around on the Internets. There is currently no upgrade path from that load to the official 2.2 load that will be released by early September. Unless you have some plan to flash your phone back to the current official load, you could be stuck on the leaked version."
So obviously we will in fact be able to flash back to 2.1 to get the official upgrade if we wish
MOTOROLA SUCKS!!! How can a cell phone company near the brink of destruction come back and act like they are a big deal. I should have waited for the epic and moved to sprint. I might just sell my x and get the samsung tab when it comes out and use a regular cell phone again.
"has verizon done this with a previous phone? I put a custom rom on a droid1 and then took it back to stock 2.0.1 and then upgraded ota. I was just wondering if verizon has done this to any of their phones before"
The X is the 3rd android model i've owned on verizon, and i've never seen them do that.
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MOTOROLA SUCKS!!! How can a cell phone company near the brink of destruction come back and act like they are a big deal. I should have waited for the epic and moved to sprint. I might just sell my x and get the samsung tab when it comes out and use a regular cell phone again.
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I couldnt agree more
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Even if we did get blocked out (I doubt it, besides there is always a way around) why bother yourself too much with it. Those of us who loaded the leaked version obviously didn't have a problem with using leaked software. We will just load the future versions when they are leaked...
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I would love it if you would write a guide detailing what the hell you just said. I have no idea what SBF is. Haha I know, I know. There are guides but I am sure there is more than one person who knows little about this and would like something step by step to follow.
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In response to the needing directions...look up "Droid X SBF File released" on these forums to find them. I would link it for you but I can't post links yet and I also don't want to just post the directions as if I was taking credit for them.
How does this even matter? There's a few ROMs in the works and we have custom recovery up and running. There will undoubtedly be a "vanilla" ROM coming out soon enough, and once that stuff hits, are you really gonna be like "OH NOES I NEED TO INSTALL THE STOCK OTA UPDATE!"? No, you're not. On top of that, worst case scenario: you just SBF flash and then install the OTA updates. "Problem" solved.
This strange, its probably the same build. Therefore no ota lol. Just a thought.
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Like some here, I could care less knowing that it will come full of bloatware and blur... which no one likes. Oh, and that we will be getting even better firmware from folks like Birdman and p3Droid
MOTOROLA- YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF for letting such good hardware be sold with such an unusable UI.
When I flash stock and blur is running with all of its widgets up the yin-yang, I can't hardly imagine it is the same phone as to what I, and others, have made the phone what it could be.
I almost feel embarrassed to state I am a X owner when I am not talking to a fellow android user and they know nothing of the phone other than what they saw in the store=CRAP.
Out of all of us who want custom ROMs and made the effort to flash the leaked Froyo build who really cares if Moto blocks us out. Fact is we rooted our phoens and wanted Froyo so we did what needed to be done. To further add most of us I'm sure are removing all there crap bloatware to begin with. Bottom line IMO is piss on the Moto/VZW update. If it is anything like what was relesased on the phone it will be garbage and we don't want it anyways.
And as mentioned if people really want the OTA update not a big deal to SBF flash the .604 2.1 file and yo uwill be fine to get the update. Oh and for everyone reference the leaked Froyo build we have is NOT the official OTA update there is at least one or 2 newer builds already.

still waiting on my ns 2.3.4 and milestone 2 gets 2.4.2.4

Is anyone else outraged about the Motorola milestone 2 getting an official 2.4 update. My nexus s still hasn't even gotten 2.3.4. I must have been stupid to think I was buying a phone that would get its updates accordingly. What do you all think about this? Should the Google nexus team get their $#!/ together? Or am I just too impatient?
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Is anyone else outraged about the Motorola milestone 2 getting an official 2.4 update. My nexus s still hasn't even gotten 2.3.4. I must have been stupid to think I was buying a phone that would get its updates accordingly. What do you all think about this? Should the Google nexus team get their $#!/ together? Or am I just too impatient?
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I just el oh el'd.
I'm sorry, either I'm terribly misinformed, or there is no such thing as 2.4 now, or will there ever be.
From what I've gathered, the jump will be made to 3.1, as announced in the Google IO.
I'm not sure if this referenced 2.4.24 is a specific Motorola thing, but as far as I'm concerned any Official Android updates coming from Google would go through the Nexus phone first.
Seems like you're the one that needs to "get their $#!/ together".
That Motorola update is not the Android version number. You can relax.
Oops thanks for the info my heart just started beating again. Still holding on strong for my 2.3.4 update though. No ota or manual update as of yet "
just manually update it if your so anxious
pacosanchezsantana said:
Oops thanks for the info my heart just started beating again. Still holding on strong for my 2.3.4 update though. No ota or manual update as of yet "
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Funny - I bought my Nexus S last week and it had the 2.3.4 update before I got back to my office from the store
Would love to my friend but I am one of the unfortunate ones with gr154 kb2 version. Or do you know something I don't ? Because I haven't found any links yet.
I'm running the nexus s on rogers Canada. No OTA before I flashed CM7.

I found a TMO store with the Gingerbread SDCARDS but>>

I found a store in my town that had the SD Card gingerbread update so I went there today. While I was waiting to be seen, I saw a My Touch 4g get updated using the SD Card by a customer service person. It took about 10 minutes. I was encouraged to see how quick it took. Now it was my turn. The customer service (C/S) who assisted me was a former tech support person for Tmoble who was now working in a store. She was very knowledgeable and very nice. She took my sdcard out and put in the gingerbread sdcard. The update started. There was about 10 steps that the update had to go through. The first step was 'bootloader'. The C/S said that this was the first G2 that she has done. She said she had done her My Touch 4g Slide and the update went smooth so again I was encouraged. I was happy to not have to wait for the OTA.
Well the update started on the first step and 45 minutes later, it was still on the first step. So she stopped the update to allow me to do a factory reset of my phone and I did so. The store had two gingerbread sdcards so she tried the second one on my phone. I went to starbucks for coffee and 20 minutes later, the update was still stuck on the first step. So, she told me that there was something wrong. She asked me if I had done anything to the phone? I said no. I told her that this G2 was a replacement phone that I had just recieved about a month ago because my first G2 stop charging. Well she gave up and so did I.
I called TMO C/S and they said that they had no record of the G2's having problems with the store gingerbread sdcards. He first asked me if I had any third party apps on my phone, I said no. They told me that the cards did not come from them but they came from HTC. So, I called HTC. The guy there commenced to reading the press release that we all have read a thousands times about being able to go to the store and get gingerbread after August 6. He also told me that he had no record of G2's having problems getting the update at the stores. I asked him if the same SD Card was to be used on the My Touch and on the G2? He said that he did not know and yes he was tech support . He advised me to call HTC headquarters at a different number and ask them that but they were closed.
I know some of you are gonna tell me to do the update myself with the links that are eveywhere on the web. Well, I'm not gonna do that. Tmo and HTC gotta get it together. They are running a business and they MUST do what they say they gonna do. I know that TMO don't have to provide any updates, I know this but they are offiering the updates and they tell us to wait for the OTA or go to a store after the Aug 6. Well I did that, I got nothing. By the way, there are three TMO stores in my town and only one had the SDCARDS. Peace
Well they DON'T know what they are doing otherwise the custom rom community wouldn't be as big as it is if they were able to get anything right themselves. So your **** out of luck. Let us know when you want a good working phone.
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xsteven77x said:
Well they DON'T know what they are doing otherwise the custom rom community wouldn't be as big as it is if they were able to get anything right themselves. So your **** out of luck. Let us know when you want a good working phone.
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That's being kinda rude. If he doesn't want to root or apply manually he doesn't have to. He's just telling us what happened. No need to be rude.
OP, if the SDcard update didn't work, you should wait and see if you can get the OTA. If the OTA isn't working for your device either, you should contact T-mobile and express that you'd like a phone with 2.3 or will properly update to 2.3, assuming that you don't want to root or manually apply the update yourself.
That's ridiculous....minus the rude part, it is true tmobile and htc would much rather see you buy one of their newer phones and renew your contact than get a good working update. Try custom roms if you can...the vision is one of the easiest to root and stable when rooted and there are hundreds of roms around, I'm sure theres some rom gingerbread flavored you'll like.
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Whether you choose to root or not, it's your device and you can do what you want with it. If you want the stock T-mo experience, then they should give you what they promised you. Good luck!
While I disagree with you rooting (many of the problems here are people who shouldn't even need to root in the first place, it's not for everybody), I don't understand why you wouldn't manually update. Download the file, name it update.zip, put on your sd card root, press a few buttons, done!
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Nospin said:
While I disagree with you rooting (many of the problems here are people who shouldn't even need to root in the first place, it's not for everybody), I don't understand why you wouldn't manually update. Download the file, name it update.zip, put on your sd card root, press a few buttons, done!
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Exactly, easiest thing to do
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I may have the answer. You said that you had received the phone as a replacement. Did it already have gingerbread on it? Remember that some of the phones people were getting as replacements had gingerbread 2.3.3 on them and if your phone was one of those you can't update from 2.3.3 to the final release which is 2.3.4. Just a thought.
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I may have the answer. You said that you had received the phone as a replacement. Did it already have gingerbread on it? Remember that some of the phones people were getting as replacements had gingerbread 2.3.3 on them and if your phone was one of those you can't update from 2.3.3 to the final release which is 2.3.4. Just a thought.
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The replacement phone I received was 2.2.
xsteven77x said:
Well they DON'T know what they are doing otherwise the custom rom community wouldn't be as big as it is if they were able to get anything right themselves. So your **** out of luck. Let us know when you want a good working phone.
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I am very familar with rooting. I rooted my G1 within 5 months of having it and it stayed rooted for a year and half more until I retired it and got the G2. The reason I chose not to root my G2 was because I did not want to be contastantly flashing and removing roms and fixing issues. I got tired of baby sitting my G1. I have other things to do.
brownbomba said:
I am very familar with rooting. I rooted my G1 within 5 months of having it and it stayed rooted for a year and half more until I retired it and got the G2. The reason I chose not to root my G2 was because I did not want to be contastantly flashing and removing roms and fixing issues. I got tired of baby sitting my G1. I have other things to do.
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So... you tried a bunch of half-baked "roms" made by a bunch of kiddies who don't know what they're doing and found it a royal PITA. Ever heard of a "superstock" system image? Its basically the factory image with a few goodies added in, specifically ROOT. It doesn't require any "babysitting", but opens the door for some amount of enhancement, like the ability to change your hosts file (usually used to block spam), or the ability to delete useless cruft from the system image (i.e., you don't like the gmail application? Delete it.). You don't have to go with a full out special brownies system, but it is nice to at least gain control of what you own.
The store I work at finally got the SD cards to update, but the G2 update will not install.
The update works fine on the mytouch 4g, so the card is goood.
Well that sucks. Hope you get the issue resolved soon.
Looks like I figured it out. The G2 would only update if the battery was %100 charged.
Any less and it would freeze during the update.
Now that I know the update works I'll try and post the files when I get home.
Thanks atlp99!
I'd really like to get my hands on that file. I assume it is a pc10img.zip ? Seems like this is the best solution for those of us running the 2.3.3 leak...
G2 2.3.4 update pc10img
Here is the G2 update off of the micro sd cards the stores are receiving.
https://rapidshare.com/files/3796067356/PC10IMG.zip
Works for 2.3.3 leak!
Just used this file to update my G2 running the 2.3.3 "leaked" gingerbread rom. No problems. Just slip the file into your root directory, and hold the volume down while turning the phone on. Piece of cake. You will lose your application data, of course, but you'll be updated...
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Here is the G2 update off of the micro sd cards the stores are receiving.
https://rapidshare.com/files/3796067356/PC10IMG.zip
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No less than a day after I suck it up and downgrade my G2 to 2.2 so I can update (using update.zip) to 2.3.4 does the PC10IMG.zip get posted. My lack of patience kicked in. Nevertheless, thank you for posting this!
Blink37x said:
No less than a day after I suck it up and downgrade my G2 to 2.2 so I can update (using update.zip) to 2.3.4 does the PC10IMG.zip get posted. My lack of patience kicked in. Nevertheless, thank you for posting this!
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Hopefully a dev can finally make a debloated with goodies added rom! Please god!
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Looks like I figured it out. The G2 would only update if the battery was %100 charged.
Any less and it would freeze during the update.
Now that I know the update works I'll try and post the files when I get home.
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Having my battery at 100 percent did not work for me. The update still just sat there looking at me. This is crazy buy while I was trying to figure out what the problem was. I decided to do checkin and about 5 minutes later, I got the updae OTA

Sprint pulls gingerbread 2.3 update?

So i recieved a notifaction today that my samsung epic was eligable for the gingerbread 2.3 update. Knowing not to get my hopes up, I followed the instructions to update, but my phone kept telling me my current andriod version was up to date.
I called sprint technical support which was the biggest waste of two hours of my life. They ended up screwing up my phone, which I had to manually get working again.
I finally called my local sprint store to see what was going on, and he told me that spring PULLED the samsung epic 2.3 update because many clients were reporting problems with their phones. He told me it would become available again in the next 3-4 weeks. I have no idea how he would know this information, but im leaning towards speculation. 3-4 weeks is 6-8 months in sprint langunage. He said his is working completely fine, and he would be fine with me to come down and he will manually put it on my phone for me, but warned if my phone bricked, it would be stuck that way (aka i would have to use odin to send it back to stock).
I manually put the E122 version on my phone and so far have ZERO problems. Is anyone else aware of sprint jumping the gun on this one and pulling this update?
I've had the Epic since day 1.
They have pulled EVERY-SINGLE-UPDATE in the history of Epic updates.
It's almost laughable. I can't wait to get a sprint phone that sprint and samsung dont mess with (nexus prime, etc)
I have the correct version right? EI22 is the latest and greatest?
What happens if sprint releases a newer update, will I have to manually remove this one and go back to froyo eco5, or will my phone update ok?
can you point me in the direction of the way you updated this with zero problems? thanks
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can you point me in the direction of the way you updated this with zero problems? thanks
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Im not sure if your being sarcastic, but I will point you anyways.
Before anything, make sure you have FROYO ECO5 Installed, and nothing else.
1.)go to ww.gottabemobile.com/2011/11/09/samsung-epic-4g-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-can-be-manually-installed
2.)rename the zip file they have for you download to update (NOT UPDATE.ZIP, just UPDATE)
3.)put the file on your SD card
4.)start phone in boot mode
5.)update.zip will appear on the boot screen, select it.
your phone will update automatically.
Since it was an official release, EI22 should upgrade to the "GB fixed" version for the Epic, even if OTA is stopped. A quick google search doesn't confirm that the update was stopped. Not saying you're wrong, but could be misinformed.
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Since it was an official release, EI22 should upgrade to the "GB fixed" version for the Epic, even if OTA is stopped. A quick google search doesn't confirm that the update was stopped. Not saying you're wrong, but could be misinformed.
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I agree. I mean it made sense and all, considering i was unable to update via OTA and my phone said my andriod version was currently up to date.
I guess only a certain percentage of users are getting it at the moment? I dont know, I have it now and thats all that matters.
Only complaint I have is their new system they use to kill aps. I loved the fact I didnt need advanced APP killer with my epic, but this new interface is really confusing me.
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I agree. I mean it made sense and all, considering i was unable to update via OTA and my phone said my andriod version was currently up to date.
I guess only a certain percentage of users are getting it at the moment? I dont know, I have it now and thats all that matters.
Only complaint I have is their new system they use to kill aps. I loved the fact I didnt need advanced APP killer with my epic, but this new interface is really confusing me.
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OTA is being pushed to 100% of Epic users in 10 days instead of 3 like the Froyo updates.
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The store told you this to get you off of their backs.
Were you rooted?
It will come, patience is a virtue.
No, im not rooted. I have the update now anyways, I downloaded directly from google and put it on my epic manually, so far so good.
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I agree. I mean it made sense and all, considering i was unable to update via OTA and my phone said my andriod version was currently up to date.
I guess only a certain percentage of users are getting it at the moment? I dont know, I have it now and thats all that matters.
Only complaint I have is their new system they use to kill aps. I loved the fact I didnt need advanced APP killer with my epic, but this new interface is really confusing me.
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My wife's stock epic had the same update notification and the same everything is up to date. So I talked to a friend who works at a sprint store and he explained the whole market queue thing for the update (unnecessarily I might add).
He then called support and talked to one of his buddies there who told him that they are getting slammed with calls about this and that they can't do a thing about it if the person isn't up in the queue.
Hell of a way to push an update.
go figure sprints always tryin to screw everyone they can. good thing we have devs and root to make them acutally work faster and better!
+1 to everyone who knows anything bout andriod
Sprint stated it would be completed over 8 days to ensure it goes smoothly. which means the 17th is the last day. Also it is not listed as suspended on their site. EB13 was immediately listed as suspended when they pulled it.
Sprint zone just sent me an update stating that gingerbread was available. I don't think they've pulled it. But hey its sprint so who the he'll knows! They'll probably wait until they push it to everyone and then pull it ;-)
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EI22 killed my GPS
I dloaeded the stock EI22 and did the update and my GPS went totally dead. Even used Status/setup to try and get it going again to no avail. Went back to stock EC05 and it works like a charm....go figure. I'll just wait for the OTA and see if it works any different....
Epic 4G
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Podar said:
I dloaeded the stock EI22 and did the update and my GPS went totally dead. Even used Status/setup to try and get it going again to no avail. Went back to stock EC05 and it works like a charm....go figure. I'll just wait for the OTA and see if it works any different....
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You just need the GPS fix. That's the only problem I see with stock ei22 and the fix makes it work fantastic. Even better than ec05 in my opinion.
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Ota not canceled. My girlfriend and I both have epics. When sprint put update on their website I odin'd her phone back to stock ec05. Last night she got the sprint notification to update.
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Yeah, that "your update is ready" message from Sprint is automated and isn't related to your spot in the queue. The same thing happend to me (I got the message days before the OTA was pushed to me) when Froyo got released. I can't tell you how many days before, I waited a day and a half and just did it manually.
yeah, that notification has no bearing on when you get the update. i got notified on my phone about the update hours after i already did the manual upgrade.
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go figure sprints always tryin to screw everyone they can. good thing we have devs and root to make them acutally work faster and better!
+1 to everyone who knows anything bout andriod
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How does this screw anyone? "Ha ha, we got you - your phone is now exactly as it has been for months, you're so screwed!" ::facepalm::
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Chances of MDL being available

So my update is on Sept 1, and I plan on going anywhere I need to in order to find a MDL phone. I NEED my CM10.2! haha:angel:.
What are the chances I'll find one? I know they are getting slimmer by the minute, but I'm thinking maybe some rural Target or BB may have one? I've been trying to get my update anytime I'm near a store, but they all tell me I have to wait for the 1st of the Month. dumbbb.
Or do I wait for Note 3/LG G2/new Sony? (i know, i know, s4 forum...)
Or do I wait for the new iphone, sell it on fleabay/cl, and buy a Google Edition s4?
I dont NEED to update right away... But my skyrocket battery is KILLING me.
AHHH I hate this!
I'm on MF3 and I'm suffering with Touchwiz (I'm a huge fan of AOSP).
I'm pretty sure the Note 3 (from AT&T at least) will have a locked boot loader so it'll be the same situation us MF3 users are in right now.
Since MF3 has been out since July, I'd think that many/most S4's would have it. If you're willing to sell/buy unlocked, go ahead for the Google edition(I personally like black mist much more than white frost, which is what the Google edition comes with. ).
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teeg07 said:
... I'm thinking maybe some rural Target or BB may have one?
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Actually, ask if the employee would be kind enough to let you see the stickers on their boxes. The side of the box shows the firmware revision (on brand new devices only). The employees, nor AT&T would have absolutely no reason to update something in-the-box like that, so this sticker should be accurate. It's the same sticker that includes all the serial numbers/etc.
It may or may not be beneficial to explain that you want a specific version of the firmware, otherwise the employee(s) may get a bit suspicious of a request like this. They may think you are trying to steal IMEI numbers or something stupid.
Aou said:
Actually, ask if the employee would be kind enough to let you see the stickers on their boxes. The side of the box shows the firmware revision (on brand new devices only). The employees, nor AT&T would have absolutely no reason to update something in-the-box like that, so this sticker should be accurate. It's the same sticker that includes all the serial numbers/etc.
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Thats what my plan was to do. I'll say something about it performing better or something (even though we all know its not true. I love playing dumb )
teeg07 said:
Thats what my plan was to do. I'll say something about it performing better or something (even though we all know its not true. I love playing dumb )
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Not exactly a lie. In the very end, MDL does perform better, because we can flash 'whatever' firmware we want... some of which can perform better.
whatever you do, DONT CONNECT TO THE INTERNET. install through apk's and then go to cm10.2. you can get terminal and the goomanager files, and install w/o internet....
Just ask to check it out before you buy. Most sales persons won't have an issue with it. Find one with MDL baseband and ask them to Leave it in box and that you prefer to set it up yourself
I'm running cm 10.2 on my s4 its so much better than touch wiz and the only feature I miss is the Samsung camera app.
Also I agree don't connect to the internet until after you have rooted and flashed a custom ROM as you can only delay the mf3 update 3 times before it auto installs
Good luck!
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vedantgp said:
whatever you do, DONT CONNECT TO THE INTERNET. install through apk's and then go to cm10.2. you can get terminal and the goomanager files, and install w/o internet....
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txtech89 said:
Also I agree don't connect to the internet until after you have rooted and flashed a custom ROM as you can only delay the mf3 update 3 times before it auto installs
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That was the plan guys- thanks! I've done my homework
I think thats what I'm gonna do. I'll see if I can find a MDL, and if not.... i'll cross that bridge when i get there.
Thanks for the help, friends!
Your welcome. I'm confident that you'll be able to find an MDL version laying around at one of the stores
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txtech89 said:
Your welcome. I'm confident that you'll be able to find an MDL version laying around at one of the stores
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I just picked up a 32GB version yesterday.
It has AMDL firmware. Turned on airplane mode as soon as I could and rooted then renamed the file to prevent an OTA.
billinaz said:
I just picked up a 32GB version yesterday.
It has AMDL firmware. Turned on airplane mode as soon as I could and rooted then renamed the file to prevent an OTA.
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good news! Thanks! Is it september 1 yet?
Well, from here on out...ATT released a statement a few weeks ago stating they no longer will be supporting unlocked devices...which means all their smart phones will theoretically have a locked boot loader.
With that said...personally I wouldn't get another device and sell it for the Google edition. As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong someone) the Google edition does not support touchwiz ROMs, only aosp. However you can get the T-Mobile variant which has an unlocked boot loader and allows you to flash anything from touch wiz to aosp based ROMs to the actual Google edition ROM...plus the T-Mobile supports all the bands that ATT uses so you won't have problems with service
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mg2195 said:
Well, from here on out...ATT released a statement a few weeks ago stating they no longer will be supporting unlocked devices...which means all their smart phones will theoretically have a locked boot loader.
With that said...personally I wouldn't get another device and sell it for the Google edition. As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong someone) the Google edition does not support touchwiz ROMs, only aosp. However you can get the T-Mobile variant which has an unlocked boot loader and allows you to flash anything from touch wiz to aosp based ROMs to the actual Google edition ROM...plus the T-Mobile supports all the bands that ATT uses so you won't have problems with service
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the google edition (i9505G) is theoretically an i9505 running a nexus firmware... you should have no issues running a touchwiz rom made for i9505.
funny thing is when i got mine it was on MDL from at&t about a month and a half ago and it never onced tried to update. then i had to do a factory reset which put me on MDB and i want to go back to MDL. theres an over the air update now that im on MDB but i froze the apk because im scared its the MF3 firmware. i'd love to go back to MDL though is that even possible ?
I seen a little bit of bad information here that I feel I should clear up.
When you first get your device on MDL. Just don't insert the SIM card. You can power it on, and keep wifi completely open. No airplane mode needed. The OTA is pushed through on the AT&T network. If you don't have the SIM in on boot, it will not pull the update. The reason behind this is that the Phone verifies the network you are connected to. It can't verify AT&T without the SIM.
The only way you could possibly get the update without the SIM in is if you turn the phone on with the activated SIM, at this point it calls for the update. When on WiFi, it downloads it. So as soon as it calls for the update, you then need to remove required items to stop it. Even if you pull the SIM it will continue the download. So just don't turn it on with the SIM in it. I know this from personal experience and reading the Forums.
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graydiggy said:
I seen a little bit of bad information here that I feel I should clear up.
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Thanks for the clear up! I was under the impression it would download as soon as i was connected to wifi.
Thanks again!:good:
Even if it downloads you don't have to install it. You can always disable the apps that prompt you to update.
I was in the same boat, being ready to upgrade after MF3 was released.
I spent the last two days checking 7 different ATT stores in the Los Angeles area for a 16GB S4 with the MDL firmware, unfortunately they had all been sold or replaced with the newer update. I was lucky to find one store that still had a 32GB version with MDL. I really dont need the extra 16GB, especially for an extra $50, but as long as i can Loki the damn thing Im happy. You might have to look for a 32GB version if you want a chance to find one as these do not sell anywhere near as frequently as the 16GB model.
Just do not put the SIM in until you block the OTA packages.
graydiggy said:
I seen a little bit of bad information here that I feel I should clear up.
When you first get your device on MDL. Just don't insert the SIM card. You can power it on, and keep wifi completely open. No airplane mode needed. The OTA is pushed through on the AT&T network. If you don't have the SIM in on boot, it will not pull the update.
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The above quote is inaccurate. I purchased a used MDL S4 during the last week of August. For the first few days, I did not activate the SIM. However, whenever I turned on Wi-Fi, the update would start to download immediately.
Short story: I placed the su binary and su app on the root of the internal sd card via Samsung Kies, ran CASUAL to root the phone and install twrp, downloaded Quick Terminal via my desktop, placed Quick Terminal on the phone via Kies, installed it, then used Quick Terminal to disable the three apps causing the OTA update as well as delete the fragment of the update that downloaded via Wi-Fi. (I posted the commands in the loki, motochopper thread.)
After doing this, I activated the SIM and didn't have to rush to find a ROM since OTA was disabled.
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Just got back from upgrading to the S4. I asked the clerk to look for a MDB or MDL and lo and behold he walked out from the back with a Black Mist 16GB MDL in his hand. Damn am I glad. :good:

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