So my update is on Sept 1, and I plan on going anywhere I need to in order to find a MDL phone. I NEED my CM10.2! haha:angel:.
What are the chances I'll find one? I know they are getting slimmer by the minute, but I'm thinking maybe some rural Target or BB may have one? I've been trying to get my update anytime I'm near a store, but they all tell me I have to wait for the 1st of the Month. dumbbb.
Or do I wait for Note 3/LG G2/new Sony? (i know, i know, s4 forum...)
Or do I wait for the new iphone, sell it on fleabay/cl, and buy a Google Edition s4?
I dont NEED to update right away... But my skyrocket battery is KILLING me.
AHHH I hate this!
I'm on MF3 and I'm suffering with Touchwiz (I'm a huge fan of AOSP).
I'm pretty sure the Note 3 (from AT&T at least) will have a locked boot loader so it'll be the same situation us MF3 users are in right now.
Since MF3 has been out since July, I'd think that many/most S4's would have it. If you're willing to sell/buy unlocked, go ahead for the Google edition(I personally like black mist much more than white frost, which is what the Google edition comes with. ).
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... I'm thinking maybe some rural Target or BB may have one?
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Actually, ask if the employee would be kind enough to let you see the stickers on their boxes. The side of the box shows the firmware revision (on brand new devices only). The employees, nor AT&T would have absolutely no reason to update something in-the-box like that, so this sticker should be accurate. It's the same sticker that includes all the serial numbers/etc.
It may or may not be beneficial to explain that you want a specific version of the firmware, otherwise the employee(s) may get a bit suspicious of a request like this. They may think you are trying to steal IMEI numbers or something stupid.
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Actually, ask if the employee would be kind enough to let you see the stickers on their boxes. The side of the box shows the firmware revision (on brand new devices only). The employees, nor AT&T would have absolutely no reason to update something in-the-box like that, so this sticker should be accurate. It's the same sticker that includes all the serial numbers/etc.
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Thats what my plan was to do. I'll say something about it performing better or something (even though we all know its not true. I love playing dumb )
teeg07 said:
Thats what my plan was to do. I'll say something about it performing better or something (even though we all know its not true. I love playing dumb )
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Not exactly a lie. In the very end, MDL does perform better, because we can flash 'whatever' firmware we want... some of which can perform better.
whatever you do, DONT CONNECT TO THE INTERNET. install through apk's and then go to cm10.2. you can get terminal and the goomanager files, and install w/o internet....
Just ask to check it out before you buy. Most sales persons won't have an issue with it. Find one with MDL baseband and ask them to Leave it in box and that you prefer to set it up yourself
I'm running cm 10.2 on my s4 its so much better than touch wiz and the only feature I miss is the Samsung camera app.
Also I agree don't connect to the internet until after you have rooted and flashed a custom ROM as you can only delay the mf3 update 3 times before it auto installs
Good luck!
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whatever you do, DONT CONNECT TO THE INTERNET. install through apk's and then go to cm10.2. you can get terminal and the goomanager files, and install w/o internet....
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Also I agree don't connect to the internet until after you have rooted and flashed a custom ROM as you can only delay the mf3 update 3 times before it auto installs
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That was the plan guys- thanks! I've done my homework
I think thats what I'm gonna do. I'll see if I can find a MDL, and if not.... i'll cross that bridge when i get there.
Thanks for the help, friends!
Your welcome. I'm confident that you'll be able to find an MDL version laying around at one of the stores
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Your welcome. I'm confident that you'll be able to find an MDL version laying around at one of the stores
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I just picked up a 32GB version yesterday.
It has AMDL firmware. Turned on airplane mode as soon as I could and rooted then renamed the file to prevent an OTA.
billinaz said:
I just picked up a 32GB version yesterday.
It has AMDL firmware. Turned on airplane mode as soon as I could and rooted then renamed the file to prevent an OTA.
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good news! Thanks! Is it september 1 yet?
Well, from here on out...ATT released a statement a few weeks ago stating they no longer will be supporting unlocked devices...which means all their smart phones will theoretically have a locked boot loader.
With that said...personally I wouldn't get another device and sell it for the Google edition. As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong someone) the Google edition does not support touchwiz ROMs, only aosp. However you can get the T-Mobile variant which has an unlocked boot loader and allows you to flash anything from touch wiz to aosp based ROMs to the actual Google edition ROM...plus the T-Mobile supports all the bands that ATT uses so you won't have problems with service
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Well, from here on out...ATT released a statement a few weeks ago stating they no longer will be supporting unlocked devices...which means all their smart phones will theoretically have a locked boot loader.
With that said...personally I wouldn't get another device and sell it for the Google edition. As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong someone) the Google edition does not support touchwiz ROMs, only aosp. However you can get the T-Mobile variant which has an unlocked boot loader and allows you to flash anything from touch wiz to aosp based ROMs to the actual Google edition ROM...plus the T-Mobile supports all the bands that ATT uses so you won't have problems with service
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the google edition (i9505G) is theoretically an i9505 running a nexus firmware... you should have no issues running a touchwiz rom made for i9505.
funny thing is when i got mine it was on MDL from at&t about a month and a half ago and it never onced tried to update. then i had to do a factory reset which put me on MDB and i want to go back to MDL. theres an over the air update now that im on MDB but i froze the apk because im scared its the MF3 firmware. i'd love to go back to MDL though is that even possible ?
I seen a little bit of bad information here that I feel I should clear up.
When you first get your device on MDL. Just don't insert the SIM card. You can power it on, and keep wifi completely open. No airplane mode needed. The OTA is pushed through on the AT&T network. If you don't have the SIM in on boot, it will not pull the update. The reason behind this is that the Phone verifies the network you are connected to. It can't verify AT&T without the SIM.
The only way you could possibly get the update without the SIM in is if you turn the phone on with the activated SIM, at this point it calls for the update. When on WiFi, it downloads it. So as soon as it calls for the update, you then need to remove required items to stop it. Even if you pull the SIM it will continue the download. So just don't turn it on with the SIM in it. I know this from personal experience and reading the Forums.
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Thanks for the clear up! I was under the impression it would download as soon as i was connected to wifi.
Thanks again!:good:
Even if it downloads you don't have to install it. You can always disable the apps that prompt you to update.
I was in the same boat, being ready to upgrade after MF3 was released.
I spent the last two days checking 7 different ATT stores in the Los Angeles area for a 16GB S4 with the MDL firmware, unfortunately they had all been sold or replaced with the newer update. I was lucky to find one store that still had a 32GB version with MDL. I really dont need the extra 16GB, especially for an extra $50, but as long as i can Loki the damn thing Im happy. You might have to look for a 32GB version if you want a chance to find one as these do not sell anywhere near as frequently as the 16GB model.
Just do not put the SIM in until you block the OTA packages.
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I seen a little bit of bad information here that I feel I should clear up.
When you first get your device on MDL. Just don't insert the SIM card. You can power it on, and keep wifi completely open. No airplane mode needed. The OTA is pushed through on the AT&T network. If you don't have the SIM in on boot, it will not pull the update.
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The above quote is inaccurate. I purchased a used MDL S4 during the last week of August. For the first few days, I did not activate the SIM. However, whenever I turned on Wi-Fi, the update would start to download immediately.
Short story: I placed the su binary and su app on the root of the internal sd card via Samsung Kies, ran CASUAL to root the phone and install twrp, downloaded Quick Terminal via my desktop, placed Quick Terminal on the phone via Kies, installed it, then used Quick Terminal to disable the three apps causing the OTA update as well as delete the fragment of the update that downloaded via Wi-Fi. (I posted the commands in the loki, motochopper thread.)
After doing this, I activated the SIM and didn't have to rush to find a ROM since OTA was disabled.
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Just got back from upgrading to the S4. I asked the clerk to look for a MDB or MDL and lo and behold he walked out from the back with a Black Mist 16GB MDL in his hand. Damn am I glad. :good:
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Hello, Guys I just got my GNote International today, I'm fairly well at the rooting and getting things going after I get a push in the right direction. My Current devices are only the Galaxy Note and Asus Transformer Prime, HP Touchpad, But in the past Ive done rooting with The original GTab from Viewsonic -First tablet, Nook, Streak 7, ZTE warp, Galaxy Tab 10.1, HP Touchpad, Asus Transformer Prime- Current Tab. I have never rooted a phone before besides the Warp and it was very simple, one click deal, The GNote seems very complex it is a different beast. So I really need some help with This bad boy, If you can help thank you very much.
Here is the Rundown on my Phone. Just got it Today. Sim Will be here tomorrow.
International Ver.
Gingerbread 2.3.6
Kernel
2.6.35.7 N7000XXLA4-CL886827
[email protected]#2
Build
GINGERBREAD.XXLA4
1. I wont get my Straight Talk [email protected] Sim card until tomorrow, I was told to order the att straight talk Sim Card is that right. I had the option of unlocked or ATT and on the message board most responses said get att, so you don't get stuck on EDGE and t-mobile.
2. Should I let it update and root before I get the Sim in it. I'm ready to get started now but like i said I wont get my Sim until tomorrow. Its already asking me to update but I haven't done anything yet because I know update can ruin rooting methods, etc.
3. I live in the US this phone will be fine as working right it was the only white one and I wanted a white one with the home button. I don't think it matters just making sure I didn't jump the gun, and that this will work with straight talk ATT Sim.
On my current version and rom, kernel etc. what would be the easiest root method for me. So I can put CWM and start setting it up to my liking.
If you need anymore info just let me know I haven't put this thing down since I got it. My Asus Prime aint been out all day. It seems like the Phone are way more complicated to root and get set up with Sim Cards. Maybe its just because I'm new to the phones, my Warp was a 4.3 Boost Mobile and I thought that would be all the bigger I would need but I like Samsung products and this is just so much bigger than it sounds like it would be, and the use of a tablet and phone is what made me jump.
My tech knowledge is decent at least 7-8 so I will figure it out. I just don't want to skip important steps. I want to make sure I do everything in order, that's why I asked if I can root and all that before my sim card gets here tomorrow, remember this is my first root on a phone that is unlocked. If anyone can help me make sure I don't do anything out of order, I will appreciate it a lot. Thanks for any help in advance.
It doesnt matter if you root with or without sim card. Probably need to find the apn settings for your chosen carrier.
Best way to answer all your other questions is below. Search is your friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1349
Ok I understand that but will it matter if I root it first, set up ICS and CWM before setting up my APN settings with straight talk on my original rom? Does it really matter?
Root put on ICS rom then I can still set up service with straight talk or
set up service with straight talk then root CWM and ICS any difference?
I'm just wondering if I root this thing and set up my new ICS rom will I still be able to set up my straight talk service, or should I wait first to set up my service when my Sim gets here?
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Ok I understand that but will it matter if I root it first, set up ICS and CWM before setting up my APN settings with straight talk on my original rom? Does it really matter?
Root put on ICS rom then I can still set up service with straight talk or
set up service with straight talk then root CWM and ICS any difference?
I'm just wondering if I root this thing and set up my new ICS rom will I still be able to set up my straight talk service, or should I wait first to set up my service when my Sim gets here?
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For APN, download APN backup & restore from market, then backup your current APN, then even if you flash official or custom roms, you can always restore your son if the from doesn't have it
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Ok I understand that but will it matter if I root it first, set up ICS and CWM before setting up my APN settings with straight talk on my original rom? Does it really matter?
Root put on ICS rom then I can still set up service with straight talk or
set up service with straight talk then root CWM and ICS any difference?
I'm just wondering if I root this thing and set up my new ICS rom will I still be able to set up my straight talk service, or should I wait first to set up my service when my Sim gets here?
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You can set your apn first/middle/last, it doesnt matter. Just like your previous devices, your apn is always available in your settings option. You can change it whenever or add one whenever. Root just gives you access to system files and will not effect your apn.
Stop thinking so hard lol. But make sure you read, read, read before installing ics. I would recommend downloading a few stock gb roms and making backup of your current rom before going forward. Its extremely hard to brick a samsung device, but make sure you have something ready before installing.
Root now..the sim card is just your service..you set apn on any new rom.just jump on wifi for data...don't ever update the phone through settings..unless you want to lose root..always install rooted roms so you may wait a day for a rooted version.
Personally Samsung is a different animal then what I'm use to which is HTC.
I have not used Odin for the PC at all..I've only used mobile Odin pro from the market or cmw.
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Root now..the sim card is just your service..you set apn on any new rom.just jump on wifi for data...don't ever update the phone through settings..unless you want to lose root..always install rooted roms so you may wait a day for a rooted version.
Personally Samsung is a different animal then what I'm use to which is HTC.
I have not used Odin for the PC at all..I've only used mobile Odin pro from the market or cmw.
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Yeah I know that is true I have only rooted one cell in my life and it was one click job, simple! This seems to be a lot more technical but I will figure it out. I have rooted many tablets though right now I have a Asus Transformer Prime, HP Touchpad, ZTE Warp-Phone, Nook Color all rooted. In the past I've rooted plenty other tabs but just one phone and it was with one mouse click, and done.
When you first get into something new its like **** man this is crazy, then after about a week it gets easier. I hope that is the case with this phone. So why not ever do an over the air update? So I need to uncheck this RIGHT NOW So if the original ICS comes out don't do it over the air? Wait and do it another way correct? My phone already did one first boot, it was already check marked to download and install updates in the settings when I turned it on it did an update. I really didn't even have time to see what it was but it was a small minor update I think so. I used the settings for straight talk from here in the thread and I get around 3-5 MB down but have only tried it like 5 times in my basement.
The weird thing is that it thinks I'm in Kansas or something because speedtest.net app says finding the closest server and it finds one in Kansas and says I'm like 30klm away from the server and its the closest one? Anyone know why this is, or WTF is going on? I gave them my correct ZIP when I ordered the ST Sim Card. Most of the time it stays on HSDPA mode but I never see where it says who my carrier is, edit I see it says HOME I guess that's my carrier? so far that Ive noticed. I don't understand the location issue. maybe I should set up my GPS I don't like it on if I don't need it.
How do you avoid from them catching on or saying I'm using too much data, I know to use WiFi whenever possible, that's a given, but what else do you guys do? Don't unlimited mean unlimited? I mean if I bought a straight talk phone and watched you-tube all day can they really say anything, its unlimited right or at least suppose to be. Anyways any tips on keeping straight talk out of my business, and off my @ss would be appreciated. Thanks
Any other tips are welcome I got two cases coming their TPU style cases which I prefer but I might have to put this in a wallet type case also? But I got super slim TPU style cases so it don't get much bigger I don't want to really add more bulk to it its getting hot outside, time for shorts, and that means no jacket pocket, I wear mostly loose fitting jeans/shorts nylon sports type. so I should be alright. Do I need a screen protector I saw one that strengthens it suppose to anyways. Alright enough questions I just don't want to ruin a $650 phone I just got, that's all.
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Yeah I know that is true I have only rooted one cell in my life and it was one click job, simple! This seems to be a lot more technical but I will figure it out. I have rooted many tablets though right now I have a Asus Transformer Prime, HP Touchpad, ZTE Warp-Phone, Nook Color all rooted. In the past I've rooted plenty other tabs but just one phone and it was with one mouse click, and done.
When you first get into something new its like **** man this is crazy, then after about a week it gets easier. I hope that is the case with this phone. So why not ever do an over the air update? So I need to uncheck this RIGHT NOW So if the original ICS comes out don't do it over the air? Wait and do it another way correct? My phone already did one first boot, it was already check marked to download and install updates in the settings when I turned it on it did an update. I really didn't even have time to see what it was but it was a small minor update I think so. I used the settings for straight talk from here in the thread and I get around 3-5 MB down but have only tried it like 5 times in my basement.
The weird thing is that it thinks I'm in Kansas or something because speedtest.net app says finding the closest server and it finds one in Kansas and says I'm like 30klm away from the server and its the closest one? Anyone know why this is, or WTF is going on? I gave them my correct ZIP when I ordered the ST Sim Card. Most of the time it stays on HSDPA mode but I never see where it says who my carrier is, edit I see it says HOME I guess that's my carrier? so far that Ive noticed. I don't understand the location issue. maybe I should set up my GPS I don't like it on if I don't need it.
How do you avoid from them catching on or saying I'm using too much data, I know to use WiFi whenever possible, that's a given, but what else do you guys do? Don't unlimited mean unlimited? I mean if I bought a straight talk phone and watched you-tube all day can they really say anything, its unlimited right or at least suppose to be. Anyways any tips on keeping straight talk out of my business, and off my @ss would be appreciated. Thanks
Any other tips are welcome I got two cases coming their TPU style cases which I prefer but I might have to put this in a wallet type case also? But I got super slim TPU style cases so it don't get much bigger I don't want to really add more bulk to it its getting hot outside, time for shorts, and that means no jacket pocket, I wear mostly loose fitting jeans/shorts nylon sports type. so I should be alright. Do I need a screen protector I saw one that strengthens it suppose to anyways. Alright enough questions I just don't want to ruin a $650 phone I just got, that's all.
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you never do OTA updates because you will lose root and possibly the exploit that gave you root has been patched so you may be stuck without root..
The latest stuff will always be available very soon after its released so don't worry.
You're on prepaid so it will show Home as your carrier even though you're on AT&T and thats what you're on if you have a AT&T sim.
I would imagine if you use too much data they would throttle you instead of cut you off...that appears to be what at&t likes to do..I am almost always on wifi so its no biggy..
I would consider ICS ROM's advanaced so if this is new I would stick with gingerbread for the time being.
I'm used to ICS on my Transformer prime and I got it on my HP Touchpad, using CWM clearing old data caches and data etc. Then install my new rom so I don't think ICS would be that new to me. Is that what you are referring too. Or something else specific?
The question I have is that wont OTA Rootkeeper work while doing over the air updates, I use it for everything almost?
I was going to upgrade tomorrow. The guy at the store said they got a shipment of S4s two days ago. Does anyone know if the devices are shipping with MF3 yet? Anyone who got a new one recently have any info?
Also, if it doesn't have MF3, do I have to do anything to keep it from installing? I saw some people saying not to use the phone til I'm home and can root it and freeze the update app. They claim the upgrade will automatically happen without my consent. Other people claim the upgrade requires user approval.
Thanks guys, I really want root so this is a deal breaker for me The guy at the store assured me all phones get updates when I asked if they were up to date. I didn't want to elaborate I didn't want that though haha.
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I was going to upgrade tomorrow. The guy at the store said they got a shipment of S4s two days ago. Does anyone know if the devices are shipping with MF3 yet? Anyone who got a new one recently have any info?
Also, if it doesn't have MF3, do I have to do anything to keep it from installing? I saw some people saying not to use the phone til I'm home and can root it and freeze the update app. They claim the upgrade will automatically happen without my consent. Other people claim the upgrade requires user approval.
Thanks guys, I really want root so this is a deal breaker for me The guy at the store assured me all phones get updates when I asked if they were up to date. I didn't want to elaborate I didn't want that though haha.
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If you are fortunate enough to get an S4 with AMDL firmware, then I'd root it and freeze the AT&T updater with Titanium Backup. Keep in mind, you'll probably want to flash a custom rom because the stock AT&T software is so laggy it almost makes the device unusable.
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If you are fortunate enough to get an S4 with AMDL firmware
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I don't plan on buying it if it doesn't. I just want to make sure it stays that way. I don't want to drive home, pull it out of my pocket, and discovered it auto-updated or some other horrible thing.
blastagator said:
I don't plan on buying it if it doesn't. I just want to make sure it stays that way. I don't want to drive home, pull it out of my pocket, and discovered it auto-updated or some other horrible thing.
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I don't think it can automatically update unless you agree to it. But be careful with the very clueless at&t reps, because they might actually update your phone for you.
Check the box. It will show the firmware revision number right on it. I recently got my replacement through Asurion, and it was MDL.
And yeah, like the others said, don't let him/her update the phone. They may wish to place test calls, but as soon as you have it in-hand, just turn off Mobile Data and the WiFi. You don't need those to place test calls.
Thanks. I have 14 days to bring it back even if things go horribly wrong. However, I am trading in my Infuse which I won't be able to get back. So I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to go down that road.
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Check the box.
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Thanks!
I'll report back tomorrow. To confirm: MDL and MDB are both good, MF3 is bad?
Aou said:
Check the box. It will show the firmware revision number right on it. I recently got my replacement through Asurion, and it was MDL.
And yeah, like the others said, don't let him/her update the phone. They may wish to place test calls, but as soon as you have it in-hand, just turn off Mobile Data and the WiFi. You don't need those to place test calls.
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This is correct. Says it right under SGH-i337. Mine says: SW-VER: i337UCUAMDL
I am using hox and i will change it to the s4 cuz i would like to change my battery.
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Thanks. I have 14 days to bring it back even if things go horribly wrong. However, I am trading in my Infuse which I won't be able to get back. So I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to go down that road.
Thanks!
I'll report back tomorrow. To confirm: MDL and MDB are both good, MF3 is bad?
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Correct. MDL and MDB are fine, but if your on MDB I am not sure if the update for MDL will come through. MDB was absolutely horrible, beyond horrible actually. Everything lagged, everything was choppy, and the modem sucked. MDL was an improvement, but nothing drastic. I hear MF3 is really good, it just kills root and loki.
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Correct. MDL and MDB are fine, but if your on MDB I am not sure if the update for MDL will come through. MDB was absolutely horrible, beyond horrible actually. Everything lagged, everything was choppy, and the modem sucked. MDL was an improvement, but nothing drastic. I hear MF3 is really good, it just kills root and loki.
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It is possible to manually use Odin to get up to MDL version. Let it be known that the MF3 patch will check to be sure you are on MDL at least, so I can't see that they would pull that OTA any time soon.
As a last resort, I have a copy of the MDL update that you could theoretically just flash with a custom recovery.
ROM Suggestions? I'm prepping for tomorrow's surgery. Speed would be number one priority. Also I like lockscreen clock and % battery in the top bar. Other than that, I'm not picky.
I eyeballed goldeneye but it doesn't seem to have % battery, and it retains TW, which most people seem to dislike?
Be wary of speed. It's the enemy and number one culprit of many problems here on xda. If you're device is running MDL, simply make sure it is charged and pull the sim. Then begin your rooting, etc. Check out the I337 guide in my signature. All steps are important.
Touchwiz roms are in Android development, aosp roms are in original Android development. Cheers
xBeerdroiDx said:
Be wary of speed. It's the enemy and number one culprit of many problems here on xda. If you're device is running MDL, simply make sure it is charged and pull the sim. Then begin your rooting, etc. Check out the I337 guide in my signature. All steps are important.
Touchwiz roms are in Android development, aosp roms are in original Android development. Cheers
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Ah sorry, speed of the ROM and thus my phone. I'm not trying to rush through the steps and brick my phone ; )
I got my s4 today via best buy and no mf3
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I updated mine and am pretty content with it. It is much smoother than the original software and the phone overall works great. I guess if you want an unlocked s4 you need to buy the Google one or a Canada one if possible.
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Whoops, sorry!
In case anyone is curious, the ATT store told me they got this batch in a couple days ago, and they were all MDL.
blastagator said:
Whoops, sorry!
In case anyone is curious, the ATT store told me they got this batch in a couple days ago, and they were all MDL.
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Congrats!!! Root it before you put your sim card.
Check this root method out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033
MattMJB0188 said:
Congrats!!! Root it before you put your sim card.
Check this root method out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033
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I used : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Super noob friendly : )
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I used : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Super noob friendly : )
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That'll work. Try out the rom GoldenEye
I bought an S4 about a month ago from Best Buy for $199. Walmart sells them for $168 so I went to get a price match. I'm a silver rewards member so thought I had 60 days. For some reason the price match is only good for 15 days but they want to have me return my current phone and give me a new one. I'm stuck on mf3 but going to make sure the new one is old. What is the first thing I should do when I take it out of the box? The first time I didn't know, and got auto updated. Thanks
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Take the sim out, it won't auto update. Then put a custom Rom on it. If you just root it there are three files you need to freeze/delete. I don't remember specifically what they are but they're att update, fwfota, and one other. Our something like that.
Just take out the sim card and leave wifi off. Turn ohone on and check WHICH firmware version is installed. If it is MDL or the older version then go home. Download the root and recovery exploits FOR MDL/Older fimware. Follow the instructions to root and out recovery on your phone. Next I would suggest also downloading one of the roms you want to use. Now flash the rom. Once it is all done you will have root,recivery, and a rom. Now put the sim card in and start downloading all your apps.
As long as you have root,recovery, and a rom it SHOULD NOT ask to install the update. If your NOT SURE if the rom has the update firmware removed ask in the respective thread first. Then ENJOY your phone. ..
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Thanks. This stock thing is driving me crazy. How do people put up with all the ads?? Need my ad blocker and all the bloat gone. You don't know what you got till its gone
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Amen to that brother!
BigMc71 said:
Thanks. This stock thing is driving me crazy. How do people put up with all the ads?? Need my ad blocker and all the bloat gone. You don't know what you got till its gone
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At least with 4.2 you can disable each of the "bloat" and ad apps. Just go to the application manager and disable them from there.
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RockRatt said:
Just take out the sim card and leave wifi off. Turn ohone on and check WHICH firmware version is installed. If it is MDL or the older version then go home. Download the root and recovery exploits FOR MDL/Older fimware. Follow the instructions to root and out recovery on your phone. Next I would suggest also downloading one of the roms you want to use. Now flash the rom. Once it is all done you will have root,recivery, and a rom. Now put the sim card in and start downloading all your apps.
As long as you have root,recovery, and a rom it SHOULD NOT ask to install the update. If your NOT SURE if the rom has the update firmware removed ask in the respective thread first. Then ENJOY your phone. ..
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This is really good advice to anyone who goes into any store!
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LOL....my wife traded her iPhone 5 for a white S4 off craigslist. I took it to the AT&T store to get a micro SIM instead of the nano one from her iPhone. I had it turned off until the guy got the SIM and tried it in the phone. It turned on and everything was fine. It then connected to the AT&T Wi-Fi network and BOOM the update started downloading. The rep said "Oh it has a software update" I yelled "No, no, no, no!" grabbed it from his hand, ripped the cover off and took the battery out. Hands down one of the scariest moments of my life. The reps shouldnt be entitled to let the update run like that. Hopefully it worked out for you.I too cant stand the bloatware.
jedimyndtryx said:
LOL....my wife traded her iPhone 5 for a white S4 off craigslist. I took it to the AT&T store to get a micro SIM instead of the nano one from her iPhone. I had it turned off until the guy got the SIM and tried it in the phone. It turned on and everything was fine. It then connected to the AT&T Wi-Fi network and BOOM the update started downloading. The rep said "Oh it has a software update" I yelled "No, no, no, no!" grabbed it from his hand, ripped the cover off and took the battery out. Hands down one of the scariest moments of my life. The reps shouldnt be entitled to let the update run like that. Hopefully it worked out for you.I too cant stand the bloatware.
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Let's be perfectly honest, most reps have absolutely no idea about any update or what it's reprocussions could possibly be. I feel if you go into the store and have the prior knowledge that this update can occur you should just be upfront with the rep. They are sales people and will be more than happy to oblige you, especially in an at&t store.
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jd1639 said:
Take the sim out, it won't auto update. Then put a custom Rom on it. If you just root it there are three files you need to freeze/delete. I don't remember specifically what they are but they're att update, fwfota, and one other. Our something like that.
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"If you want to avoid the update, you should root your phone and freeze the following three apps using titanium backup or some similar app.
1. AT&T Software update Vxx_x_xxxx_x_x
2. FWUpgrade x.x.x
3. LocalFOTA vx_xxxx_x_x"
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"If you want to avoid the update, you should root your phone and freeze the following three apps using titanium backup or some similar app.
1. AT&T Software update Vxx_x_xxxx_x_x
2. FWUpgrade x.x.x
3. LocalFOTA vx_xxxx_x_x"
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yup this works like a charm
I know its not out yet but most phones are getting rooted before released. On top of that, the korean version is already rooted.
So thats why I ask when you guys think we will have root? Is the verizon version that different from the Korean version (Lock bootloader)?
Just wanted an idea before i pick the phone up next week.
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In 18 hours, give or take a couple.
From your lips to God's ears
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i'll take the over.
FynxSyndct said:
i'll take the over.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440163&page=9
As of right now, LG has no drivers that support the vzw LG G2 as far as anyone on this forum has found. If we had proper drivers we may be able to root right now using the same method the ATT variant used.
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As of right now, LG has no drivers that support the vzw LG G2 as far as anyone on this forum has found. If we had proper drivers we may be able to root right now using the same method the ATT variant used.
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I don't have the G2 yet. But someone should call LG support for a link to the drivers. Just say your pic isn't reading the MTP or something.
800-243-0000
I will tomorrow morning if nobody else does.
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I called, they sent me to lgforums.com and clicked on drivers and resources and it has the 2.7.1 driver. That is all that's available
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Coming from a GNex, this device is nothing but improvement other than not having an unlocked bootloader and root. If at the minimum they(developers) can not get the Verizon version rooted during my 14 day return period, this device will be going back. Too much BS loaded on this thing, but I do want to love it. Is there a bounty yet for root and unlock??
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Coming from a GNex, this device is nothing but improvement other than not having an unlocked bootloader and root. If at the minimum they(developers) can not get the Verizon version rooted during my 14 day return period, this device will be going back. Too much BS loaded on this thing, but I do want to love it. Is there a bounty yet for root and unlock??
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I also came from a GNex, so same here. Love the new G2 phone, but I am not sure why Verizon always seems to go through the added effort of obfuscating root for power users.
Root is the absolute bare minimum for me. For now, I am in a two week holding pattern... I can't get too attached to the device because if there's no root, the phone is worthless.
DeaconBoogie said:
I also came from a GNex, so same here. Love the new G2 phone, but I am not sure why Verizon always seems to go through the added effort of obfuscating root for power users.
Root is the absolute bare minimum for me. For now, I am in a two week holding pattern... I can't get too attached to the device because if there's no root, the phone is worthless.
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Exactly!! Root is bare minimum, unlock will be better.....:good:
Nothing is going to happen on the vzw g2 until usb debugging works properly. As far as it looks right now there is nobody on a vzw g2 that has it actually working. It's able to be checked, but when you plug it in there is no notification in the notification bar that says it's working....and not a single person has been able to get the phone detected by adb.
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Exactly!! Root is bare minimum, unlock will be better.....:good:
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DeaconBoogie said:
I also came from a GNex, so same here. Love the new G2 phone, but I am not sure why Verizon always seems to go through the added effort of obfuscating root for power users.
Root is the absolute bare minimum for me. For now, I am in a two week holding pattern... I can't get too attached to the device because if there's no root, the phone is worthless.
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Nothing is going to happen on the vzw g2 until usb debugging works properly. As far as it looks right now there is nobody on a vzw g2 that has it actually working. It's able to be checked, but when you plug it in there is no notification in the notification bar that says it's working....and not a single person has been able to get the phone detected by adb.
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Agreed just left my Gnex also. I think I will stick it out past the 14 days. VZW doesn't have anything else to offer even close to the G2. The S4 doesn't interest me at all.
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Coming from a GNex, this device is nothing but improvement other than not having an unlocked bootloader and root. If at the minimum they(developers) can not get the Verizon version rooted during my 14 day return period, this device will be going back. Too much BS loaded on this thing, but I do want to love it. Is there a bounty yet for root and unlock??
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I'm in the same boat. on a GNex for 2 years and this is the first device that's coaxed me to switch. If we don't have (at least) root by 2 weeks it's going back and I'm back to the drawing board. I'm okay with waiting on the bootloader but that could also be a risk given the current status for other devices still not being unlocked.
Part of the reason I've stuck with the GNex so long is the custom ROM scene - and specifically Paranoid Android which is fantastic on that device. G2 has me happy so far but getting rid of the VZW turn on/off sounds and animations is the first thing that has to go.
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Agreed just left my Gnex also. I think I will stick it out past the 14 days. VZW doesn't have anything else to offer even close to the G2. The S4 doesn't interest me at all.
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I picked up an s4 for my wife when I got my g2, after using both, g2 is much better imo
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p2im0 said:
I'm in the same boat. on a GNex for 2 years and this is the first device that's coaxed me to switch. If we don't have (at least) root by 2 weeks it's going back and I'm back to the drawing board. I'm okay with waiting on the bootloader but that could also be a risk given the current status for other devices still not being unlocked.
Part of the reason I've stuck with the GNex so long is the custom ROM scene - and specifically Paranoid Android which is fantastic on that device. G2 has me happy so far but getting rid of the VZW turn on/off sounds and animations is the first thing that has to go.
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We are truly in the same boat like you said. The rom scene is what kept the GNex shortcomings(battery life/radios) in check. You are right about the current rate at which bootloaders are being unlocked. Nexus devices may be the only way to go. Does anyone know LG's history for having devices unlockable( bootloader), dev support, and receiving android updates? My relationship with this phone so far is like that hot girl at the bar who's got it all, but something just doesn't seem right.....
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We are truly in the same boat like you said. The rom scene is what kept the GNex shortcomings(battery life/radios) in check. You are right about the current rate at which bootloaders are being unlocked. Nexus devices may be the only way to go. Does anyone know LG's history for having devices unlockable( bootloader), dev support, and receiving android updates? My relationship with this phone so far is like that hot girl at the bar who's got it all, but something just doesn't seem right.....
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The thing that doesn't seem right is that it's on Verizon (read: mental issues). I really want to nab this thing, but with the way the GS4 was handled, along with the HTC One, I don't know if I can bring myself to do it.
Verizon G2 just got rooted. I believe
Root achieved
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45564780&posted=1#post45564780
So i just got an S4 comming from a HTC one, and was wondering whats the current best rom for this phone? Is 4.4 available yet?
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So i just got an S4 comming from a HTC one, and was wondering whats the current best rom for this phone? Is 4.4 available yet?
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Since you are new to the Galaxy S4 ZI would highly recommend you read the post at the link below. Depending on what release your phone is on, there are some unfortunate consequences to having an S4 at the moment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
If you are not on the OTA MF3 or MJ9 you are very fortunate and should start by reading this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297900
Your most immediate focus should be on getting root so you can freeze the AT&T software update app as well as the FWUpgrade and I believe LocalFOTA apps so your phone is not FORCED to update to the latest AT&T releases which have a locked bootloader.
I hope this helps and good luck,
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Since you are new to the Galaxy S4 ZI would highly recommend you read the post at the link below. Depending on what release your phone is on, there are some unfortunate consequences to having an S4 at the moment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
If you are not on the OTA MF3 or MJ9 you are very fortunate and should start by reading this post.
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Now since i just ordered the phone from ATT how do i check if im not on the OTA MF3?
SuperMiguel said:
Now since i just ordered the phone from ATT how do i check if im not on the OTA MF3?
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Well, if you just ordered a new s4 from AT&T you will most likely be on MF3 (I337UCUAMF3 is the baseband version) since it has been out for a while. You could luck out and get one that has been sitting on a shelf for a while and still has an older rom on it but unfortunately you will not know until you get it in your hands and look in the "About Device" tab. If you do happen to luck out, keep WiFi off until you can get rooted to try and keep the phone from force updating (which appears to have happened to many users even after they declined the update) before you have a chance to freeze the update apps.
Let us know how it goes,
drichter12 said:
Well, if you just ordered a new s4 from AT&T you will most likely be on MF3 (I337UCUAMF3 is the baseband version) since it has been out for a while. You could luck out and get one that has been sitting on a shelf for a while and still has an older rom on it but unfortunately you will not know until you get it in your hands and look in the "About Device" tab. If you do happen to luck out, keep WiFi off until you can get rooted to try and keep the phone from force updating (which appears to have happened to many users even after they declined the update) before you have a chance to freeze the update apps.
Let us know how it goes,
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Ummmmm so if it is MF3, im out of luck? no fix for it... Does the box show the baseband version? I rather sell it unopened and get a Nexus 5 or something
SuperMiguel said:
Ummmmm so if it is MF3, im out of luck? no fix for it... Does the box show the baseband version? I rather sell it unopened and get a Nexus 5 or something
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There are no indicators outside the phone..... If you are on MF3, there is a proven root method that will at least give you root, just not the ability to install a custom recovery. The first link in my original message explains the work-around so you can at least get some custom roms (currently only TW based roms) to work on an MF3 phone but until the dev community can unlock the bootloader that is the best option there is.
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There are no indicators outside the phone..... If you are on MF3, there is a proven root method that will at least give you root, just not the ability to install a custom recovery. The first link in my original message explains the work-around so you can at least get some custom roms (currently only TW based roms) to work on an MF3 phone but until the dev community can unlock the bootloader that is the best option there is.
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Gotcha, so one of the main reasons i wanted to get this phone was to "start" doing custom rooms, etc, etc i guess i didnt pick a right platform? ill be a bit pissed if i cant load my own room
if you're wanting to do custom roms, return the phone before opening it and get your cash back. Though there's a lot of great development on the MDL basebands and the phone is a great phone, the MF3 and new one (MJ9?) have locked bootloaders that haven't been broken yet. I personally wouldn't take the risk of being stuck on a later baseband and i'd get a different phone like the HTC one max or the N5
I just really want to know why the S4 I bought last night won't update to 4.3 OTA...
Ya at the moment i have the HTC one (regular one) and screen cracked so needed a replacement.. Also i got the 32GB sam S4 for $150 so i think im better off selling it and getting a N5... not sure yet..
SuperMiguel said:
Ya at the moment i have the HTC one (regular one) and screen cracked so needed a replacement.. Also i got the 32GB sam S4 for $150 so i think im better off selling it and getting a N5... not sure yet..
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If you can stomach the wait buy from google, if you can't there's swappa and craigslist. I'm planning on selling my S4, going back to my i717 (OG note) and ordering the N5 from google. I like my i717 better than the S4 anyway.
Theoriginalgiga said:
If you can stomach the wait buy from google, if you can't there's swappa and craigslist. I'm planning on selling my S4, going back to my i717 (OG note) and ordering the N5 from google. I like my i717 better than the S4 anyway.
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the 32GB says shipping dec 4th so not that long wait..
SuperMiguel said:
Ummmmm so if it is MF3, im out of luck? no fix for it... Does the box show the baseband version? I rather sell it unopened and get a Nexus 5 or something
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There are no indicators outside the phone.....
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On the outside of the box.
drichter12 said:
There are no indicators outside the phone
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Incorrect. The firmware version is included in the label on the outside of the box. No need to open the box to check it.
Edit: See photo in above post. Looks like we were typing at the same time.
SuperMiguel said:
So i just got an S4 comming from a HTC one, and was wondering whats the current best rom for this phone? Is 4.4 available yet?
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As you now have some guidance from users, and we typically do not allow "best rom discussion" as they turn into arguments. I suggest all users read and learn the pros and cons of what the latest issues are with the official OTA's....
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