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Ok, I've had an 8525 unlocked for about 3 months now... Unlocked and used on t-mobile's network...
Until recently, I've had 0 issues with my phone from what I can remember(now running PDAs v20 windows 6.1 rom)
My problem is, during the day, in my room I recieve any and every phone call that comes in, calls never drop or hang up, BUT the call seems to cut out for about 5-15 seconds and then cut back in.. even though it says I have 4 bars.. in my kitchen with 4 bars, I get all my phone calls, but can't hear people (nor can they hear me at all)... I get emails, and browse the web fine.. but can't use google maps app (can't find my location until I leave lol)
I don't know what's up... at night, when I'm in my room, my phone works fine with no cutting out and in during calls, but during the day, that's when it wants to act all crazy... other t-mobile phones work perfectly fine in my room... my old sidekick also worked fine..
when I'm anywhere else in my city, my phone works fine (even with 2 bars)
I know nothing about how cell phones work when communicating with cell towers so any help someone can give me will be very helpful as I do not want to catch an aneurism calling T-Mobile themselves for help (though I doubt they'll help me since I'm using an unlocked ATT phone on their service lol)
Also... sometimes txt messages come and give me a time like it's in another time-zone... usually this happens when I'm out of state roaming on a different network (Immix in central PA for the most part) but now it seems to be popping up even while I'm home in NY...
any ideas?
seems like some kind of interference near your home...could be a carrier tower or even your TV? You could check with tmob if others in the hood are having day issues...
not sure what radio version u have, but u could try flashing a different one...
I've tried numerous radio's but having the same issues... it's some kind of interference in my house I guess.. I just can't figure out what it is... I called up t-mobile and was embarassed when he said "oh u have an ATT phone" lol he told me to switch sim cards with someone else on t-mobile in my home to see what happened... but.. no progress... I unplugged my wifi router to see if that would help but it didn't
I just find it completely odd that my service craps out on me in my room ONLY during the day... and it never did this when I first got the phone.. I'm completely lost... good news is, it only happens in my house...
Could be someone close by has just invested in a piece of equipment that is causing interference.. Might not be just in your place...
yeah, another thing that MIGHT be causing the interference is that they have been doing a lot of road work in my area... that could also be why it happens during the day but not at night... my kitchen is a different story, but different radio's have gave me different reception... with some radio's... it fades out completely and with others it'll fade out for maybe a second or 2
or it could be my neighbor who recently had a stroke, I guess there might be some machines in there.. who knows
I tried the latest radio and it yielded the best results in my kitchen so far but man oh man does it burn battery when I'm on the phone
I'm having the same problem...well as far as the text msgs go so i called tmobile last night and they took me off the network and placed me back on and since then I havent had any problems
Update: I put my GF's att sim card in my phone and went to all my "dead spots"... even when the signal bars were down to almost 0, the quality of the call was still clear and it wouldn't fade in and out during a call... Does anyone know if there's anything T-Mobile can do? Because I tried my moms sim card in my phone (t-mobile) and gave me the same crappy results (calls fading in and out at full 4 bar signal)
greetings. Last week my wife had gotten a treo 800w to replace a mogul she had. Yesterday, i noticed the old deactivated mogul had received outlook emails. After messing around with it for a little while, i found out that it's receiving data. i can use pie, opera mini, google maps, etc. It wont make or receive phone calls and cant send emails or texts. Im nowhere near a wifi hot spot or router, so im not getting data that way. The weird thing is, the internet hadnt worked for the 6 days after removing the sprint service. But, for some reason, it started working yesterday. Has anyone ever heard of this happening before? will i get charged extra data fees from sprint? oh yeah, the phone had been soft reset a few tmes, and had the battery removed after it was deactivated. I was just hoping someone could maybe explain why this is happening and if ill be charged extra because of it. thx dschoenike
It will probably only work as long as the currently active phone is on the same tower as the mogul, once the other phone switches to a different tower the mogul should stop working until the other phone comes back into range.
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thanks for the reply. sorry for my ignorance, but does that mean as long as both phones are relatively close to eachother receiving a signal from the same tower, it'll work? And once they're separated by a long distance, and going off of 2 different sprint towers, it'll stop working? i wonder how far sprint towers are away from one another. my wife and i work about 40 miles away from each other.
I don't honestly know, but I would bet 5-10 miles, maybe a bit more, depends on the height of the tower and how much power they are pushing.
I'm basing my info on my previous post from something I just read on HowardForums. In his case when his wife was to far away it stopped working. Someone else acknowledged it was a known issue, and that cell-phone companies are just to lazy to shut off the data. It will show up as billed on her plan, tho if she has unlimited, it shouldn't be a problem, tho I suppose if they were both accessing data at the same time, your carrier might get a little suspicious.
If her new phone doesn't have data, I would not use the old phone, as you will get billed pay as you go on the data.
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shes got unlimited data on her new phone, so im thinking it wont be an issue. guess ill just enjoy it while it lasts. thank for the replies.
Hello,
I'm new here, so forgive me if this has been answered before. I did a search and couldn't find anything that helped with my issue, but maybe I just missed something.
I have a new HTC Surround, originally locked to Telus, but now unlocked and on the Rogers network.
Everything is working great except that the timestamp for incoming text messages is incorrect, and off by about 5 hours. The minutes in the timestamp is accurate, but the hours is off by 5 hours.
For instance, a message sent by me has a timestamp of 4:22p. The reply to that message comes in with a timestamp of 11:25a.
I've seen that this has been an issue for other HTC phones in the past, as well as possibly a problem with Rogers' network but I can't seem to find a fix. I was previously using a Sony x10 on Rogers (hated the phone) and never had this problem.
I sent a message to HTC customer support, but was hoping somebody here would be able to help me faster.
Any help that can be provided would be greatly appreciated.
I had this issue with Bell Vibrant Galaxy S on the Fido as well, and had to use an app called SMS Timefix.
btw Wepeel, who did you use to get the phone unlocked? I'm still trying to find someone to do it for me. I'm in the Toronto GTA area.
Thanks for the input. I don't think there's an app yet for wp7 (at least nothing in the market). I got a response from HTC and they said it was a network problem. However, I've never had this problem on Rogers before. I've only had the Surround for 3 days, and the x10 I had before (for 2 months) never had this problem, and neither did my iphone.
I'm going to contact Rogers tomorrow and see what they have to say about it.
As far as unlocking, I won the phone from Breakfast Television and was given the unlock code directly from Telus. However, depending on where in Toronto you live, you should check out the Pacific Mall (Steeles/Kennedy in Markham) or craigslist.
The Pacific Mall is a great place to go to get anything unlocked, and its usually pretty cheap. There's also an ad on CL right now advertising unlocking for the Surround for $29 (which I find pretty expensive).
Hope that helps.
Same issue, same situation.
I have an unlocked TELUS surround on Rogers, and the timestamps on the TXT messages are -5 hours from the real time.. Obviously the phone is expecting the carrier to timestamp the messages in UTC and the phone is correcting.. there should be an OS tweak for this somewhere.
Oh, and MyNameIsWepeel;
If you think this is fun, wait until you search for something in the maps.. I searched for TELUS in maps hoping to find the local telus dealer and it came up with Telus, Russia. (It's a city apparently). It seems if your phone is configured for Canada (eveything under Region & Locale) the maps search doesn't work correctly. You need to set it up for US to get it to work.
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Oh, and MyNameIsWepeel;
If you think this is fun, wait until you search for something in the maps.. I searched for TELUS in maps hoping to find the local telus dealer and it came up with Telus, Russia. (It's a city apparently). It seems if your phone is configured for Canada (eveything under Region & Locale) the maps search doesn't work correctly. You need to set it up for US to get it to work.
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The problem with that though, is the market will no longer download apps. Or at least it didn't for me. I changed my locale, which did help with searches in maps, but then I couldn't download any apps. I just kept getting error messages. Changing my locale back to Canada fixed it immediately.
I just changed my locale last night to all US, and I was still able to download apps. Albeit I got an error message occasionally, but then I just restarted the download and it all worked. I figured it was server related.
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I just changed my locale last night to all US, and I was still able to download apps. Albeit I got an error message occasionally, but then I just restarted the download and it all worked. I figured it was server related.
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I'll have to check it out again, maybe it was just server problems. I'll admit I wasn't very patient with it.
On an unrelated topic, how are you guys finding the reception on the phone? I've noticed I'm getting slightly poorer reception in some areas that my x10 got great reception.
Well I'm not the best person to ask about reception... I'm coming from an iphone.
My major beef with this phone is the battery life; it's simply unacceptable. I always end up coming home with 20% or less... Either an aftermarket upgrade will need to show up to save the day or I'll be forced to switch phones.
Ive had similar battery problems, but it charges so fast it hasnt been an issue. I throw it on the car charger for 20 minutes and im good for the rest of the day. But back on topic.. i have a similar issue with text messages, except my time stamps are about 30-45 seconds slower which sometimes causes my device to send texts before one is received. its not a huge deal though, but still kind of odd.
Prior to this phone, I had an iPhone 3G, 3GS, Nexus One, and Samsung Galaxy S - all with the same carrier.
This phone has the best reception so far. On my home from work today I tested it out. There's always an area my bars go to zero and my calls drop. With this phone it was the first time I never dropped the call completely. In fact, the signal was completely strong. I'm happily surprised by this.
Well, I finally found out what was causing my reception problems. This phone, or mine anyway, has a very serious deathgrip issue. Any time I would hold the phone at the bottom (where the antenna is) or with both hands, I would lose at least 2-3 bars. A lot of the time I would completely lose signal. As soon as I moved my hand up to the top, right back to full bars.
And since you need to hold the phone at the bottom to text and talk, it pretty much made the phone useless to me.
So I sold my Surround (for $500) and I'm going to get something else.
Trying to see if there's something in common with those who are experiencing lock ups.
My crashes arent frequently but it has happened a few times
Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
My units is not crashing all the time but it does it at least once a day which is bad. It seems to be when trying to switch between using cell network and WiFi. Would be nice if it was fixable with firmware.
Mine hasn't crashed so far. I tried downloading Harvest Game and it went fine over wifi. Tried heavy browsing with music in bgrnd and that too was fine. Only issue was the Bluetooth not communicating to the car properly. Its been a week now.
ive crashed only once, which was in the newsroom app, i was also updating marketplace one time and instead of crashing it would just take me back to the start menu..
mine has been crashing quite a bit...16 gig less than 14 gig available...
In the first 36 hrs I had the phone, I spent at least half of it in the PC connect screen. The phone would not boot...well..sometimes. Then it would boot by itself...reboot rather.
I called MS, ZUNE support. They helped walked me through some basic steps. Apparently I was touching the side buttons, camera, volume down, while powering up. Not sure if this was true, but dam they could reproduce the PC connect everytime. Since that call, I was more careful about powering up and have had no problems since.
I do get a lag in IE on WiFi, sometimes, not often, but daily. I found a web page that always sends me back to the desktop.
But crashing.....I have to be honest and admit that most of the crashes...if not all, in the first 36 hrs, probably were user errors. Now, I'm not a novice. I own more smartphones than most people on this forum. And if the phone buttons are that sensitive, then something is not right. However, since I've grown accustomed to the button layout and sensitivity, I've not had a single malfunction.
I've also recognized that certain apps are prone to causing, umm....unexpected results. Maybe instead of voting on crashes...we should keep a list of app suspects....
I got 2 units.
The first one had the Wifi issue and was constantly crashing.
The second one the Wifi is good, and it never crashed.
Maybe is related?
It seems to me that my device crashes a lot when my Wifi is on
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Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
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Same here, also 16GB model. Every crash I've had has either been related to the Marketplace, or it's happened when my rickety 3G connection had poor signal.
This sucks. Mine is crashing EVERYTIME I try to dl something related to xbox live (games) over wifi. Should I have this exchanged???
Crashes a lot. Sometimes back to back so after doing numerous battery pulls, I had mine switched out. Its always an app though that crashes it and the screen becomes unresponsive. Phone goes to home screen and the people hub is grayed out. Its not an os specific crash cuz my hd7 doesn't do that.
So far phone is mostly stable, crashes have been only with wifi enabled, and only had 1 other crash without wifi on. Been running for the last 3 days, no crash at all.
I have had my phone almost a week and have been noticing the crashing a bit more frequent. It always seems like when I am in the MP or using an app that requires retrieving data from the cloud.
I got mine since November... never saw it crashing
Only once it would not start...I had to remove the batteries and put them back on.
I have a feeling it goes with having it in your pocket for a long time.
Sometimes (happened twice in 3 month) the screen locks but it has something to do with static electricity, or rain (I switched on and off and it worked).
I got it upgraded to 32 GB by swapping the micro SD card.
Took a while to boot.... (I think it reformats the card) worked like a charm!
Fankly, it is the sexiest piece of hardware I've owned in a long time.
Much more stable than any phone I ever owned.
I've had my 16GB since the 28th. I have not had a single crash, freeze or hang in the 5 days I have been using it. OS performance wise, it has pretty much been perfect.
I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet. Everything I have done is solely over Wifi. I think the fact that I don't have a data plan is going to wind up being the explanation for my lack of problems. I don't know if it is a Microsoft or Dell problem, but 3G and WiFi just don't seem to get along well on the DVP.
Even though I have been limited to Wifi, I have been using this thing constantly trying to get everything setup. I haven't had any Marketplace issues at all. I've been using the Facebook, Twitter and Netflix apps quite a bit. No Xbox Live stuff or YouTube app though. I installed the LastPass app and tested almost all of 50+ logins without any issues. All in all, I think I have given my DVP a fairly tough stress test and I honestly have to say it has passed with pretty high marks.
That's not to say my DVP is perfect though. I have had some bugs. The biggest for me is the cellular antenna. I get a mediocre phone signal in my apartment. My flip phone would hover between 2 and 3 bars out of 5. I get much worse reception on the DVP. I get a ton of No Service notices, especially when I pick it up. But it isn't just a death grip issue. I'll sit the phone on the arm of my couch and watch it fluctuate between No Service and 1 or 2 bars. If I want to make a call on the DVP, I have to take laps around my apartment trying to find a decent signal. Not fun. Outside of the dead zone that live in the reception is fine. If I get 5 bars, it stays at 5 bars no matter how I hold it. I also don't care for the SMS texting app. When I attempt to send a text while I have a low signal, I don't get a confirmation either way after I hit send. I sent 3 texts in a row out on Thursday afternoon and only 1 got through. It would have been nice to see a "Message Sent" or Message Failed" confirmation either way. I also can't import Contacts from my Sim. I see the box for it on my People Settings page, but it is greyed out. Very annoying. And I know it's a known issue with Microsoft, but the not being able to connect to a WiFi with a hidden SSID is just ridiculous.
I really haven't made up my mind yet on whether I am keeping my DVP. On the one hand, I really like WP7 and it seems like I got lucky and got one of the problem free DVP's. But I'm also not sure if I can live with the bad reception at home. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if anything interesting is announced at CES.
16GB and it locked up all of the time... It would just freeze there with whatever it was on the screen. That happened until I turned Wifi off. Now it's great. The only time that it crashed with wifi off was when I was running Beezz and it just hard locked for some reason.
So I would like to have Wifi... 3G coverage is spotty at best where I live. What are the chances of a firmware fix, ya think? I'm almost tempted to send it back to Dell... Even though I love it to death. Gosh that keyboard is amazing...
I sure hope it gets sorted out...
Can someone list the symptoms of crashing? Is it just screen freeze or apps won't launch when touched or something different? I had case y'day where except people, email and phone, none of the other apps would launch. When launched it would just return to the home screen right away. Then a battery pull fixed it. That was the first i had the issue since receiving the phone on 12/23. I have time till end of this week to decide on return or replacement.
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I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet.
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Mike, have you received any calls on it yet? My experience has been that you can make outgoing calls all you want, but you need to tell T-Mo the new IMEI number to receive calls. That could also be why you haven't gotten a notification about the text messages.
When I called T-Mo to get the phone set up, they also told me about the available insurance plans (from $5.99/mo that covers the phone completely-loss/theft/damage/etc, to less than $2 for minimal coverage). I was on an out-of-contract plan too and had to pick up the phone at full price. My plan was phone+data, no messaging, so I only pay for texting. Everything done over WiFi or 3G has been great.
As for crashes, I think it's locked up 3 times now that required removing the battery and putting it back in. Those all happened within the first few days of owning it, but not since. (got it on the 23rd)
I've tried everything to get my phone to get network working again. I've re-flashed old and newer images, got a new sim, messed with the APN settings and I just can't get it to work since yesterday.
When it started, my phone was sitting on charge. It was working just fine before I had put it down for 30 minutes. Upon checking for any messages I saw it wasn't getting any service so I restarted the device and was greeted with the 7.1.2 july update installer. Waited for it to finish and once fully back onto the home screen for a few minutes service still never came back. Turned it off and on a few times and turned airplane mode on and off few times still never came back. Turned it off for the night till today when I started playing with it more, factory reset, flashed 6.0, 7.1.2 june, 7.1.2 july, O beta 3 and none of it was getting the network to work.
Went and got a new sim, guy at the store also tried a floor sim and none of them were working but both my old and new sim do work just fine in a backup phone. The 6P reads there is a sim in and it knows its AT&T, but it won't pick up signal at all.
Any help with this? There really isn't much on this topic, but I do see a sim card no installed issue which my phone knows there is a sim card in it.
that happened to a nexus 6p i bought from a guy off craigslist. at first it worked with tmobile and metro pcs then after a few weeks it stopped working but i had switched to cricket anyway and it worked on cricket but not on tmobile or metro, so then i checked imei and it was black listed,.... being that it was a BYOD it wasnt bound to any network so i was like why would it be blacklisted... didnt make sense but i stayed with cricket and to this day it works..
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that happened to a nexus 6p i bought from a guy off craigslist. at first it worked with tmobile and metro pcs then after a few weeks it stopped working but i had switched to cricket anyway and it worked on cricket but not on tmobile or metro, so then i checked imei and it was black listed,.... being that it was a BYOD it wasnt bound to any network so i was like why would it be blacklisted... didnt make sense but i stayed with cricket and to this day it works..
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I just checked to see if it was blacklisted and its good. Google & Huawei won't service it due to it being out of warranty so rn its pretty much a dead phone for me. Is there is any tests I can run to see if the network radios are working or even turned on?
I had this exact same problem a few months ago with my other 6P. Thankfully it was right before my warranty ran out so i was able to get a replacement, but as far as I know, there isn't much you can do with it network wise.
@MadBullBunny could it maybe be the antenna inside? If you've tried other carrier Sims and flashed different radios what else I wonder. Since it's not working maybe worth a peak if your comfortable opening her up.
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@MadBullBunny could it maybe be the antenna inside? If you've tried other carrier Sims and flashed different radios what else I wonder. Since it's not working maybe worth a peak if your comfortable opening her up.
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I really didn't want to go that far and I rather just dump it on craigslist for $250 if its just an issue with at&t. is there some sort of test to see if the antennas are working?
have you try resetting your network settings? this has happen to me right after a update and resetting the network settings fixed it for me. i'm on project fi.
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have you try resetting your network settings? this has happen to me right after a update and resetting the network settings fixed it for me. i'm on project fi.
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Dude... Not trying to be rude, but really?
Anyway I've been waiting for a response back from google. Huawei pretty much told me tough luck since I didn't have warranty left on it. Told google that I was pretty much shoved out by them and argued that a phone not even 2 years old can't get serviced by a multi billion dollar company is pretty embarrassing. Supposedly its being routed up but I was told that a couple days ago when it was going to take 24-48 hours to get back. Right now I'm trying last ditch effort to drain the battery completely and stick it in some rice to possibly suck any possible moisture out that maybe my butt sweat caused. If this doesn't work I'm going to go to other service's stores and ask to try their sims in the phone out.
Fun tip: My phone is been running in boot mode for almost an hour after it turning off from android os for battery being dead. I've been doing random stuff in boot mode trying to make it die completely and it doesn't want too.
So being back and fourth with google for almost a week I was pretty much told tough luck buddy. It fathoms me that a company who created the android OS doesn't even have a service center or require its manufacturers to provide a service center for phones that aren't even more than 2 years old.
My nexus 6p is posted on craigslist and I've bought myself a s8+. so word of warning to you all who buy any google product or from them, just don't. If you have any issues you'll just get a run around. I've had to tell my issue to google at least 20 times and they still didn't care and kept trying to push me to hauwei when neither of them wanted to help.