Am I correct in saying that OTG cables will not work with an unrooted device? I've google'd around a bit and that is the conclusion I've come up with. Please someone prove me wrong and tell me how to get it to work without rooting.
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I think it is a mixed bag depending on the type of device. For instance, I don't know why a standard USB keyboard wouldn't work with a stock, unrooted tablet. Hard drive or USB key, though? Perhaps not without root.
The USB Media Importer app claims that it doesn't need root (but then I also see some ymmv comments about Nexus 7 and 4.2.2 there). I haven't used this app so I can't say one way or another. Maybe someone that has can add some commentary.
For storage I think otg access to read is available without root with a few 3rd party apps but to write to them I think you need to give them root access.
Other usb devices would depend on if drivers are in the rom/kernel.If it says it works with linux it usually works for android devices.
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Thank you guys. I just would like to be able to transfer files via USB stick if I could without having to alter my Nexus.
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With so many great games out that are very large, what is the best way to keep storage? I just cycle through them and uninstall them when done. Pretty much play one large game at a time. Is there a better way/way to increase storage?
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USB otg?
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USB otg?
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I've heard of it.... but not sure how to do it. :banghead:
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Dr_Nacho said:
I've heard of it.... but not sure how to do it. :banghead:
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Ust otg cable from amazon or evilbay quid/dollar, if your rooted grab stick mount if not i think people use nexus media importer, it shows up when u plug it in like u would a usb stick in a pc/laptop
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E_Goldstein said:
Ust otg cable from amazon or evilbay quid/dollar, if your rooted grab stick mount if not i think people use nexus media importer, it shows up when u plug it in like u would a usb stick in a pc/laptop
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I've been curious about this also. But havent been able to completely figure it out by reading on the internet. Could you explain?
Does this mean that with USB OTG and NExus 7 Media importer, you could for example:
Plug and 16 GB USB Memory stick into your nexus, and your nexus would then have 16GB extra storage? Or does USB OTG only view whats already on the USB, so you'd put music/videos onto the USB stick, then it shows you that but doesnt read the storage?
I hope this makes sense
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I'm rooted using the OTG-usb and stickmount. I have added music, videos, and pictures to a connected thumbdrive or sdcard and they show up and play just fine using the Nexus apps.
Root and Stickmount seems most popular method (many threads on XDA), or you could try this app if not rooted.
Nexus media importer is the way to go if ur not rooted. Works perfectly no problems whatsoever.
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Wilks3y said:
I've been curious about this also. But havent been able to completely figure it out by reading on the internet. Could you explain?
Does this mean that with USB OTG and NExus 7 Media importer, you could for example:
Plug and 16 GB USB Memory stick into your nexus, and your nexus would then have 16GB extra storage? Or does USB OTG only view whats already on the USB, so you'd put music/videos onto the USB stick, then it shows you that but doesnt read the storage?
I hope this makes sense
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It works the same way as it would on a pc it see's it as portable storage, but there is a way to move your games to the usb stick also.
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There are several same memory sticks of high capacity that would fit nicely jsut under the nexus and provide much needed extra memory. wonder if such a thing is available or indeed possible?
You can use an OTG USB Adapter, device must mehr rooted, and use the tool"stick mount:
If device is unrooted You can use the "nexus Media importer" from market.
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Xda2013 said:
You can use an OTG USB Adapter, device must mehr rooted, and use the tool"stick mount:
If device is unrooted You can use the "nexus Media importer" from market.
Cheers
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Yes thanks I understand that but a memory stick with an micro interface wouldn't need the cable. know they don't exist but wondered if any technical issue that would rule them out.
I think, there might be a problem to harm your connector port if the USB stick isn t quite small, a flexible cable is the better choice in my opinion...
But your idea is interresting..
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I thought this was interesting too. Until I realised you'd need an adaptor to plug it into a computer. So no real benefit ...LOL
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I bought a 64GB Kingston usb drive and use 'Nexus Media Importer", works great with HD films and music etc. It's a shame it can't be used as an SD card enabling installation of apps etc to it. Oh well, maybe in the future or I finally root my Nexus 7.
So I'm sitting here with my nexus 4 disappointed that otg is NOT working even though it is advertised and in the guide book it says it is a feature... Was also thinking about picking up a nexus 10.
Can anyone confirm otg working without needing root for the N10? On the phone it isn't a huge deal-breaker, but on the tablet it would absolutely be a must for me. Thanks!
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With nexus media importer, without root, it works, but only read permissions, you can't write. Btw, some people got an otg cable and say they can't get it to work, but that's because of the cable.
Damn only read? I guess that's fine for videos, write would be nice for my emulators though
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HAve you got an OTG cable?
If you root your device you can get write, but as said read should work fine.
Yeah I have a cable. It's confirmed to work with my dad's SGS3 and my sisters SGS2
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Yeah I have a cable. It's confirmed to work with my dad's SGS3 and my sisters SGS2
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Root on nexus 10 is as easy as double click an icon and it auto-roots (with superboot). You don't even need to unlock the bootloader, so you might want to do that.
alrighty I'll probably pick up a 16gig version then since I wont have to carry videos around on the device itself. Now just to decide if i truly wanna shell out 400 bucks haha
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Root on nexus 10 is as easy as double click an icon and it auto-roots (with superboot). You don't even need to unlock the bootloader, so you might want to do that.
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I think you are mistaken there ...
From the superboot thread ..
Note: If you are using a retail device, you may need to unlock the bootloader first, using './fastboot-windows oem unlock' (or the appropriate version for your machine, included in this zip). Note that the OEM unlock sequence wipes your device, so consider doing an 'adb backup' beforehand if required!
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Just don't want someone wiping their device without knowing it ..
Anyone know which OTG cable works with both the nexus 10 and the HTC EVO LTE phone? I would like to be able to read and write to my 16 gb memory stick. Both of my devices are rooted..
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hi, is anyone using freedom pop with their nexus 7? it seems like an easy (and free!) way to get mobile data on the tablet. i guess you would need the little hotspot device, so it's two things to carry and charge.
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I actually managed to use the usb stick with an OTG cable. It just worked without any configuring.
I have a nexus 7 WiFi 16 gig refurbished from wallmart. Using for a car install, tried 3 different otg cables confirmed working on n7 2013 and made my own cable with external power and no go. Host mode will not trigger. No mouse, USB ,SD........ I get no notification that host mode is entered. Tried USB ROM, vanir, cm11, bs harmony, stock, every kernel. Still get nothing. Any ideas? Have power and volume soldered to some momentary switches. Any ideas I was thinking of trying to trigger host by shorting the pins on the tablet itself! Bad idea? All connections in the tablet look good.I am at a loss. Any suggestions are appreciated!!
Download stickmount.
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What you are looking for is a kernel that provides simultaneous otg/host mode charging. Unfortunately, if you are running a rom newer than 4.2.2, you cant get it. All kernels that gave this capability were based on the work by Timur. He left that scene and never brought the hack to 4.3 +. If you install a 4.2.2 rom, you can still do it. If you google "Timur kernel" it will take you to his rootzwiki thread. He has a standalone kernel, or an entire rom dedicated to your very situation. Most people on the thread are car install users. Tons of great info there.
To the reply above me, the op is referring to being able to mount otg and charge at the same time, so stickmount would do no good.
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What you are looking for is a kernel that provides simultaneous otg/host mode charging. Unfortunately, if you are running a rom newer than 4.2.2, you cant get it. All kernels that gave this capability were based on the work by Timur. He left that scene and never brought the hack to 4.3 +. If you install a 4.2.2 rom, you can still do it. If you google "Timur kernel" it will take you to his rootzwiki thread. He has a standalone kernel, or an entire rom dedicated to your very situation. Most people on the thread are car install users. Tons of great info there.
To the reply above me, the op is referring to being able to mount otg and charge at the same time, so stickmount would do no good.
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Isn't this a stock feature? My N7 in stock 4.4.2 has no OTG problems whatsoever, and provides energy without problrms.
No, not a stock feature. Exactly how are you charging and mounting otg simultaneously, cable wise?
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No, not a stock feature. Exactly how are you charging and mounting otg simultaneously, cable wise?
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I use a generic OTG cable i got for like 5 bucks (it doesn't supply any kind of power). Mouse, gamepad and keyboards works as soon as i connect them. For drives and SD cards, i use Nexus Media Importer. All in stock ROM and kernel (4.4.2), without using root.
The op is referring to charging the N7, and connecting otg devices at the same time. The reason his otg is not working is because he connected the charging circuit first, which blocks host mode (otg functionality) from registering. The same happens if otg is hooked first, charging will not occur. It takes a kernel with those certain abilities to use otg and charge the n7 at the same time (host mode charging). Likewise, it takes a special cord, which has either 2 male usb and one female, or 1 micro usb, 1 male usb, and 1 female usb. Everything you need to know about this is here http://mehrvarz.github.io/usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7/
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I have tried usb rom and stick mount,and nexus medis importer ect...... my problem is no usb host at all. not even a usb mouse. i have tried diffrent roms and kernels. i think maybe a hardware problem. i made my own usb host cable it works with my n7 2013 note 3 , but not my 2012 n7. nothing does. i also bought a few cables from amazon, no go. the tablet doesnt enter host mode. i tried usb diagostic app from chainfire. support is the for host in the kenels but host mode will not trigger.. just tring to see if anyone had similar issue and found a fix.. thanks for the suggestions.. kang-aroo kernel has timurs patches synced for 4.4.2 so does bricked and m kernel. OTG and charging IS NOT my issue, its no host at all. tablet will not recognize anything i plug in with external power or without....
As i thought the tablet was defective,recieved my new one no problems with usb host......
Awesome, glad you got it replaced. I use usb host mode charging, so I know how valuable it is. But, I am glad you posted your issue, because I was unaware of the existance of the kang-aroo kernel till you mentioned it. Running it on all 4 roms on my N7, and really happy with it.
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Awesome, glad you got it replaced. I use usb host mode charging, so I know how valuable it is. But, I am glad you posted your issue, because I was unaware of the existance of the kang-aroo kernel till you mentioned it. Running it on all 4 roms on my N7, and really happy with it.
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Kangaroo is a great kernel , try oxydo has the same features but it also has doubletap2wake and s2w it's not enabled by default but trickster mod will turn it on or by editing a few files in the sys folder.In the kangaroo thread there is a manager app like USB rom has for a car install. Works on both kernels. Are you using multirom. I haven't tried it yet. Any issues?
Been using multirom since it was released over a year ago, and never had an issue. I cant imagine my N7 without it.
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