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Hello, I'm not glad that i have to post this topic, but i think the whole story about "Waiting for SD card" problem will never end. I have 3 SD's at home, even one not works.
What i tried:
- i read a lot of topics about this problematics
- i tried to format my cards to fat32
- i tried clean cards
- i tried to format with special tools
- i tried customize startup.txt with msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave etc.
- i tried 5 versions of android, even one not works...
I will be very glad if someone helps me or gives me an advice what should i try
Thanks a lot!
Is any one of the sd cards you tried a "class 2"? Seems that class 6 sd cards have this problem.
unstable_ said:
Hello, I'm not glad that i have to post this topic, but i think the whole story about "Waiting for SD card" problem will never end. I have 3 SD's at home, even one not works.
What i tried:
- i read a lot of topics about this problematics
- i tried to format my cards to fat32
- i tried clean cards
- i tried to format with special tools
- i tried customize startup.txt with msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave etc.
- i tried 5 versions of android, even one not works...
I will be very glad if someone helps me or gives me an advice what should i try
Thanks a lot!
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no need to try more versions on your current SD cards. Go to look for some very old one, better smaller then 2GB.
I got 5 in my home, 2 of them works. Both of them are 2GB, bought 3 yrs ago.
None of new one could be used.
i realised the old versions of sd card works but the newer ones dun.
U shuld change SD card~~
Pretty Disappointing... I'm stuck too. I'm suprised it hasn't been fixed yet can't be that hard compared to everything else they've acheived.
I hope everyone involved keeps up the hard work but it'd be great for someone to revisit this problem.
its a hardware problem of the sd card, not a software problem.
it will never be fixed (its not possible).
its not like an sd card is too expensive ^^ just get another one...
have a look at this thread
N!ghty said:
its a hardware problem of the sd card, not a software problem.
it will never be fixed (its not possible).
its not like an sd card is too expensive ^^ just get another one...
have a look at this thread
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I tend to disagree. SD is a well known standard on the market.
The card that I have works fine for more than a year in Windows Mobile with Touch HD card reader. Without a single problem during that time. So everything: operating system, SD card and HTC HD card reader are fine.
It doesn't work with Android, so there is something wrong. Either with SD card initialization procedure, drivers or operating system (Android).
Unfortunately, I can't effort using 2GB card. I'm using my phone e.g. for books reading, music, photos, games etc. It's not only a phone I hope that all these hard working Android guys can fix this issue.
mlemanczyk said:
I tend to disagree. SD is a well known standard on the market.
The card that I have works fine for more than a year in Windows Mobile with Touch HD card reader. Without a single problem during that time. So both: operating system and HTC HD card reader are fine.
If it doesn't work with Android, it's Android's problem. Either with SD card initialization procedure, drivers or operating system (Android).
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we are not looking at the sd card when its detected by the operating system but by the device itself.
the problem might be that the device is simply not capable to use some sdcards without the proper drivers (which the os then provides). what im saying is: before you enter the os the device might not detect some particular sd cards, but once the os is booted, it does.
the issue here is simple: if the device doesnt support the sd card, the os wont boot, this has nothing to do with the os.
if you dont believe me:
try flashing a WM rom from the "problem sd card". u will see: it wont work.
now try booting android from the same sd card. u will see: it wont work.
now get another card u can boot android with.
now try flashing a WM rom from this sd card. u will see: it will work.
conclusion: its a hardware problem.
i must say im not an expert but im not stupid either. i tried what i explained myself and thats just how it is...
if someone has a better explanation please correct me
N!ghty said:
we are not looking at the sd card when its detected by the operating system but by the device itself.
the problem might be that the device is simply not capable to use some sdcards without the proper drivers (which the os then provides). what im saying is: before you enter the os the device might not detect some particular sd cards, but once the os is booted, it does.
the issue here is simple: if the device doesnt support the sd card, the os wont boot, this has nothing to do with the os.
conclusion: its a hardware problem.
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What you're saying may be right. I'm not an expert either, so these are only my conclusions.
I think that what may be failing is the HSPL (Bios) that most people here loaded. I'm pretty sure that I was able to flash from SD card on my stock ROM. At some point it stopped working. I'll try to rollback to stock SPL (I'm not sure how to do it, yet) and confirm. So changed HSPL may be the issue.
Another question is, why SD drivers in either case are not loaded with the boot image. I don't know Android internals, so I can't tell if this is possible. But it would help in this case.
In both cases I don't think this is hardware issue that can't be resolved.
N!ghty said:
we are not looking at the sd card when its detected by the operating system but by the device itself.
the problem might be that the device is simply not capable to use some sdcards without the proper drivers (which the os then provides). what im saying is: before you enter the os the device might not detect some particular sd cards, but once the os is booted, it does.
the issue here is simple: if the device doesnt support the sd card, the os wont boot, this has nothing to do with the os.
if you dont believe me:
try flashing a WM rom from the "problem sd card". u will see: it wont work.
now try booting android from the same sd card. u will see: it wont work.
now get another card u can boot android with.
now try flashing a WM rom from this sd card. u will see: it will work.
conclusion: its a hardware problem.
i must say im not an expert but im not stupid either. i tried what i explained myself and thats just how it is...
if someone has a better explanation please correct me
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Sorry. You are wrong. I am frequently flash my phone using SD card with HSPL. But the card also face problem with Android. So definitely not the hardware problem.
Hello
I have 2 card's, one 8GB from Transcend and one 4GB from Kingston, and the kingston only works with android!
UPDATE: Transcend Class 6, Kingston Class 4
cereal86 said:
Hello
I have 2 card's, one 8GB from Transcend and one 4GB from Kingston, and the kingston only works with android!
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lucky guy
From my personal experience on my Kaiser I can confirm that newer SD cards do indeed seem to cause problems in Android, especially with installing or running from SD.
I have 3 SD cards I normally use for my phones, the newest a 4Gb class 6, which I have never been able to use for Android on Kaiser or Blackstone, I can't even flash with it, it just never works, using it for data storage works fine, just can't run Android from SD or Flash with it, the other 2 are 2Gb class 2's, both work just fine for flashing, and work great when using them for running Android builds from SD on Kais and Blac hardware.
My conclusions? Well I fall into the 'hardware problem' camp, mostly, since I can't flash either Winmo or Android with the class 6, it may be the card, but I wonder sometimes if it's the capacity, since both the class 2's are almost the same age as the class 6, all are sdhc, all 3 are from the same manufacturer , (SanDisk), in fact the only real difference is the capacity.
Waiting for SD Card
I have also tried a Transcend 8 GB SD Card and it doesn't work.
The same files on a Tanscend 1GB SD Card work just fine, so it's definitely a hardware problem caused by the card.
I've tried everything - formatting the card with different tools and different cluster sizes, partitioning the card below 4GB - all without success.
For all you guys out there with the "waiting for SD card" problem: Get a different (small) card !! - It's worth it !
what about this - copy files in the package into device internal memory and boot from there(i don´t know where to change booting directory in cfg...). if it created data.img on the sdcard, it would be fine solution...
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what about this - copy files in the package into device internal memory and boot from there(i don´t know where to change booting directory in cfg...). if it created data.img on the sdcard, it would be fine solution...
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Not sure it's that simple... once winmo is killed, the internal memory would have to be accessed natively by Android. It could be different for every device (where as SD is a standard, device agnostic format, internal memory isn't)
Whilst most HTC devices will work in an almost identical manner, there is no guarantee of what the internal memory is (it could actually be a HDD in theory).
I had this problem with my Transcend 8GB SD card, nothing solved it so I traded it for a Sandisk 8GB SD card with a colleague.
Works fine now. ^^
kalyster said:
I had this problem with my Transcend 8GB SD card, nothing solved it so I traded it for a Sandisk 8GB SD card with a colleague.
Works fine now. ^^
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I'm using a Transcend 8GB card...the one that came with my blackstone with no problems at all. Don't think I did anything special though, formatted to FAT32, installed android from a CAB (in this thread) loaded Android and then I copied my WinMo files back to the SD card as well.
One 2GB sandisk card I had though didn't work at all until I formatted it to FAT32 under linux, then it worked fine in WinMo and Android.
A friend also suggested to me trying to reduce the 'allocation unit size' when formatting the card but I've not tried that approach.
maybe u can try format SD Card to FAT (not FAT32 formatted i think.. maybe it FAT16)! i have 8gb and 2gb SD Cards.. and that all cards not work untill i formatted my 2gb SD Card to FAT!
CMIIW..
hi,its my 2nd day having a hd2.
I think my card isnt comaptible to wp7
its a Rdata class 6 16gb card.
I bought a used t-mobile hd2 running on stock wm6.5
and decided to dual boot on wp7 and android
the thing is when I installed LEO70 ROM everything went well.
no reboots or anything like that showing incopability of the sd card.
BUT, apparently when I was going to prepare the sd card for partitioning as I read on guide I followed.
my card reader wont pick up my 16gb rdata class 6 card. OUCH!
even my old nokia phone rejects it and says its unformatted blah blah blah.
plugged it in again on the hd2 then went to zune and zune says 0 free space.
plugged the sd card again on a card reader and still no go.
tried another card reader and still it wont pick it up.
then tried another card reader.
this time it reads but for minutes and minutes for scanning.
no drive letter.nothing.
tried a 8gb card and ALL the reader picks up.
opened sdcard formatter and it wont pick up my sd card.
MAGDLR 1.13 wont recognize it too. all I head is the sound of a hardware being connected to the pc and that's it
please someone help me here.
I will be so glad if you could help me with this problem
I wont go back to wp7 again after I resolve this.the sd was working
how DO I revive the sd card for other use?if I canr use it for wp7
I dont wanna waste another card trying though.
note: Im currently downloading a stock t-mobile MR 3.14.531.1.exe
is this safe?and if I successfully install this will winmo 6.5 be able to format my sd? please I dont have extra money to buy another card cause all of my sd cards are being used by other phone.
thanks in advance
Get yourself a copy of SDFormatter. Put the card into your PC and run this free utility. You should then be able to do a complete format through Windows.
Your sd card is not compatiable. There are many threads in xda about this and how to format, copy partitions etc. THis thread is also useful giving you links for partition/format utility http://www.techienote.com/tag/technology
Format your card and use it for something else. Have a read of the threads in the wp7 hd2 forums, there are a few threads about which cards reported that work, I use a transcend 8gb class 6, works well.
ok thanks will try reading more
and by the way I have sd formatter but it really wont pick up my sd haha
ok thanks will try reading more
and by the way I have sd formatter and easeus but it really wont pick up my sd haha
what a shame.
another wasted money
Was reading earlier somewhere on here and they were talking about a low level formatter. Then format it using regular tools. What ever that is not sure but apparently it fixes some of these problems.
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Is there any way or any android roms that can be flashed WITHOUT the use of an SD card?
My SD card is currently unrecognized on my windows 7, CWM and WM6.5 after unsuccessful attempts at installing the latest WP7 Mango (I also tried unlocking my SD card, but it failed to detect card). By unrecognized I mean that the system CAN'T SEE IT AT ALL, like there is NO SD CARD INSERTED.
I heard that android 'could' recognize cards that are otherwise unrecognizable and be able to fix it. It's my last and only hope left to save my SD card.
Only some devices can unlock the sd cards..
See the win7 section of hd2
jonas2295 said:
Only some devices can unlock the sd cards..
See the win7 section of hd2
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Hrm.. I don't think my SD is locked though, if it was then XBmod's unlocker would've worked and unlocked it. It's just that my SD card isn't detected at all...
Oh okay use a SD Card reader and format it with "sd formatter"
I had the same problem with my SD card, turned theres a difference between micro SD and micro SDHC, well mine and many other older card readers do not recognize this SDHC type at all.
good luck
I got a adapter for that when I bought my micro sdhc card.
Maybe you get one
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jonas2295 said:
I got a adapter for that when I bought my micro sdhc card.
Maybe you get one
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i did to, but apparently my (built-in) card reader was too old, it wasnt the shape or adapter or anything, it just wouldnt recognize it - but at least it taught me a lesson, always nand backup and careful with the wipes
Hi,
(Strange problem - OS does not detect SD Card however Bootloader does and loads ROM from SD Card)
I have a strange problem from this morning. I had WP7 mango installed which was working pretty ok apart from a few restarts if the bottom part of phone got warm/hot, so I kept it in from of AC (This idea usually works with HD2)
This morning, WP7 gave an error saying it can not detect the 16 GIG SD Card, I reformatted SD Card using Nokia phone/FAT32 and re-installed WP7 however it gave a message saying No Storage Card present.
I have also tried installing WM6.5 but that too doesnt not detect SD Card.
On top of above, strange thing is that I have installed 3 different version on WM6.5 stock ROM using SD Card method (pressing VolDn methos while powering phone up to boot load ROM from SD Card) and it works perfectly fine however the OS does not detect SD Card.
Has any body faced this problem and have a solution?
Or does any body know of a solution to this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Ash.
a54i54 said:
Hi,
(Strange problem - OS does not detect SD Card however Bootloader does and loads ROM from SD Card)
I have a strange problem from this morning. I had WP7 mango installed which was working pretty ok apart from a few restarts if the bottom part of phone got warm/hot, so I kept it in from of AC (This idea usually works with HD2)
This morning, WP7 gave an error saying it can not detect the 16 GIG SD Card, I reformatted SD Card using Nokia phone/FAT32 and re-installed WP7 however it gave a message saying No Storage Card present.
I have also tried installing WM6.5 but that too doesnt not detect SD Card.
On top of above, strange thing is that I have installed 3 different version on WM6.5 stock ROM using SD Card method (pressing VolDn methos while powering phone up to boot load ROM from SD Card) and it works perfectly fine however the OS does not detect SD Card.
Has any body faced this problem and have a solution?
Or does any body know of a solution to this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Ash.
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further to add, i have tried 2 sd cards 4gb and 16 gb. WM6.5 says no SD Card present however the WM6.5 and all of software (ROM, Radio, Splash etc) were loaded/installed using LEOIMG.nbh on 16gb SD Card.
I have searched the forum as well as other sites, and have tried re-formatting sd card as well to no luck.
Please help, if you have any idea of whats wrong.
Cheers,
Ash
no one ?
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no one ?
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We're all too surprised you managed to flash using a 16gb SD card.,,, normally anything 8gb or larger won't flash nbh files, so your problem is pretty strange.
I lost the shipped 8GB SD card more than year back and since then I am using 16GB SD card with HD2 and it worked perfectly.
Does OS like WP7/WM6.5 uses mount in some way to have card and contents available? If so, can it be mounted using MAGLDR or CWM, since the bootloader which IPL can read the SD Card.
Cheers,
Ash
indeed this is a baffling problem. can't think of conclusive reasons why the tri-color bootloader can see the sd card but OS (WM6.5, WP7, Android) cannot!
i am assuming you have just ONE partition on the sd card...? can you check and tell us the format of the filesystem, i.e. FAT or FAT32...? i think FAT isn't even possible on a 16GB card...it will likely be formatted as FAT32, but lets check to be sure.
Hi ASCIIker,
Many thanks for your response, the SD Card is FAT32 formatted. I have tried both 4gb and 16gb cards but WM6.5 says No Card found.
See screen shots attached. I have also attached screen shot of version showing Stock ROM flashed earlier today using SD Card.
I am not too sure, could it be some thing like mounting of SD Card under these OS's or under SPL which is not able to mount these SD Cards,
The problem started when phone was running WP7 Mango 8107 but it used to crash if it got hot and re-boot on its own, may e one of those automatic re-boots, the OS unmounted Sd card. When I looked at it in the morning, it was showing an error message of no storage card present and the options available were emergency call and shut down. I tried re-booting it 1-2 times and it still showed same message and then I tried loading WM6.5 from SD Card using LEOIMG.nbh which worked and left me confused.
I have also tried USB Mass Storage option of MAGLDR 1.13 however that doesn't work either.
I have never used CLk but I can try that if there is a way to access SD Card using USB with it.
Any suggestions for reviving it back are welcome.
Cheers,
Ash
a54i54 said:
Hi ASCIIker,
Many thanks for your response, the SD Card is FAT32 formatted. I have tried both 4gb and 16gb cards but WM6.5 says No Card found.
See screen shots attached. I have also attached screen shot of version showing Stock ROM flashed earlier today using SD Card.
I am not too sure, could it be some thing like mounting of SD Card under these OS's or under SPL which is not able to mount these SD Cards,
The problem started when phone was running WP7 Mango 8107 but it used to crash if it got hot and re-boot on its own, may e one of those automatic re-boots, the OS unmounted Sd card. When I looked at it in the morning, it was showing an error message of no storage card present and the options available were emergency call and shut down. I tried re-booting it 1-2 times and it still showed same message and then I tried loading WM6.5 from SD Card using LEOIMG.nbh which worked and left me confused.
I have also tried USB Mass Storage option of MAGLDR 1.13 however that doesn't work either.
I have never used CLk but I can try that if there is a way to access SD Card using USB with it.
Any suggestions for reviving it back are welcome.
Cheers,
Ash
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It is worth a shot but i suspect you it still will not detect the SD card. Just click on the HD2 guide in my sig and scroll down to post #3 and look for the section "Updated version of clk with CWM built in" and click on the link that takes you to the download of that version. Then the bottom of post #1 and read the section "Flashing cLK via SD card". This will have clk with Clockwork Mod installed on your device. Then boot your device and hold down the home button at the same time, this will boot you into CWM and theb select "Mounts and storage" then select"mount USB storage". If you do not see the contents of your SD card on your computer then it is not working. Make sure to try "install zip from sdcard" as well. Just see if it reads the SD card that way.
Also I take it from your posts that you have tried otion #4 USB Mass storage in MAGLDR. So like I said I doubt CWM will see it in mass storage either.
Seeing as WP7 uses the SD card for the internal memory and is constantly using the SD card reader on the device at high speeds. It may just be a case of the SD card reader not being operable with the OS anymore. I mean it has to work at a certain speed level I think for the OS to be able to use it, and maybe the bootloader does not require that same speed. Or it may just be a case of the reader not being able to mount the SD card as read and write both still so it just will not mount it. Like I said these are just shots in the dark. But if it is a problem with it mounting in either read or write it could cause this problem I beleive.
Hi T-Macgnolia, thank you for this detailed reply. I was able to install CLK using SD Card method however it does not recognize SD Card nor does it mount it. It shows an error message - see attached screen shot.
I was wondering if a faster SD Card like Class 6 8 GB would make any difference to current state.
Cheers,
Ash
a54i54 said:
i have tried 2 sd cards 4gb and 16 gb.
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a54i54 said:
I was wondering if a faster SD Card like Class 6 8 GB would make any difference to current state.
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if you're getting the same behaviour with all your cards, then its likely to be a problem with the phone, and messing with this class of that sized card is probably a dead end. (thats not to say you shouldnt try if you have cards available, of course!)
To my mind its gotta be one of two things
1 - some problem with the sd controller, that is allowing low level access to the card, so flashing works, but not allowing the higher level drivers full speed access to the card, in much the same way that a PC accesses the hard disk much faster during a normal boot than it does with a 'safe mode' boot.
2 - a virus/glitch/witchcraft/wp7/other has corrupted all your sd cards in some fashion.
Just guesses, of course.
Good luck.
a54i54 said:
Hi T-Macgnolia, thank you for this detailed reply. I was able to install CLK using SD Card method however it does not recognize SD Card nor does it mount it. It shows an error message - see attached screen shot.
I was wondering if a faster SD Card like Class 6 8 GB would make any difference to current state.
Cheers,
Ash
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I agree with Samsamuel completely, it seemsit is something wrong with the SD card reader/controller that is not letting it read the SD card at a higher speed. Or something really strange and funky has happened to all of your SD cards. But I feel it is the first thing and not the later. If you want to try another SD card, as odd as it sounds, I suggest you try a lower class SD card like a class 2 if you can find on. But then again you may already have one and already tried it I do not know. One thing for sure it seems like a hardware issue and not a software or faulty SD card issue.
I had this exact same problem, in the end I ended up going back to original leo Winmo 6.5, then starting over with HSPL - Magldr - CWM - Android (though I guess WP7 will work too).
I don't know what caused the problem, I just put all these anomalies down to the bad nand blocks on my device.
I'll also note that mass storage in Magldr has never worked for me and still doesn't, the drive mounts but crashes on transfer of any files, but within CWM and Android it works now.
If you have exhausted all other options and have not already tried this then it maybe worth a shot. Good luck.
Thanks michael-jb,
I have tried all these options. I have tried installing different WP7 again though, which I will do tomorrow or day after.
Cheers,
Ash
hi, anyone using a 32GB Transcend card?
win 7 was ok with a 2GB Sandisk and an unmarked 4GB card, dual boot with android.
are some roms better than others or is there anything else i can do or is that just how it is?
tried full clean format of card etc.
did you try insert card on already installed WP7 or you flashed ROM with card inside?
you cant only insert card... you need to make hard reset or flash ROM to use new card...
http://www.wpcentral.com/first-offi...-certified-microsd-card-announced-sandisk-8gb
same with my 16g Transcend, WP7 doesn't recognize it while flashing, what I did was use an 8g Sandisk then just made an image copy of that to the Transcend then it is OK, but during the flashing it wont see a Transcend card
you guys need to realize it's not always about the sd card that causes problems. the particular wp7 rom flavor causes incompatibilities. also, you can't copy existing wp7 sd images and expect it to work. just make sure the sd card is formatted in any of the std windows/dos formats...fat16, fat32, ntfs.
also, i've never encountered sd issues with 4 different brands ranging from 8gb to 32gb sizes of sd cards using yuki rom, but these same cards have issues when trying to flash pdaj, ansar, and hd2o wp7 roms.
BTW
if I flash WP7 using the Transcend it wont work
if I flash Android using the Transcend it will work
mengfei said:
BTW
if I flash WP7 using the Transcend it wont work
if I flash Android using the Transcend it will work
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that goes without.saying. android doesn't have such strict requirements as wp7. as i stated in previous post...other wp7 roms other than yuki rom seem to be prone to sd card issues.
dxdy said:
did you try insert card on already installed WP7 or you flashed ROM with card inside?
you cant only insert card... you need to make hard reset or flash ROM to use new card...
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hi,
@dxdy: as i said in my post, i dual booted with android on 2 other different cards ok (by imaging and resizing and adjusting partitions)
bad thing was losing half my sd just for win 7. and i didnt like the idea of swapping cards.
also, the battery issue does not seem to have been bottomed out with its appalling standby times.
thanks though to hjhjhj for that info. that was just what i wanted to know. interesting but strange that different roms see the cards differently.
locking an os to a removable storage card has to be one of the worst features i have seen.
at least with our HD2's we still have other options.
will fire up win 7 again and give it another go.