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LG's AH-IPS mobile display

"The Korean company’s yet to be launched AH-IPS display for mobile devices, just received the prestigious Quality & Performance Mark from Intertek – a global testing and certification company. What’s particularly important about this award for LG, is that it has been achieved by comparing its display with no other but Samsung Galaxy SII’s Super AMOLED screen."---gsmarena blog
Are you excited about this ?? Do you believe its going to beat Samsung's SUPER AMOLED HD.

varunkumars said:
"The Korean company’s yet to be launched AH-IPS display for mobile devices, just received the prestigious Quality & Performance Mark from Intertek – a global testing and certification company. What’s particularly important about this award for LG, is that it has been achieved by comparing its display with no other but Samsung Galaxy SII’s Super AMOLED screen."---gsmarena blog
Are you excited about this ?? Do you believe its going to beat Samsung's SUPER AMOLED HD.
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they are saying an IPS display beats an advanced AMOLED display
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Yes, Im very excited about this but we would only see this on LG's phones or on the Iphone5.. I do hope its gonna beat Samsung's SAMOLED HD!

If there is anything which can outplay S-AMOLED Plus then I will be greatly happy. Don't wanna stick with Samsung frankly as I don't like them at all.
(I am not a fan boy of any brand btw)
Regards.

But you don't know how the SUPER AMOLED PLUS HD is going to look like, only time can tell you.

Even though AMOLED+ has gorgeous colours and blacks are jet black, OLED has a lot low life span compared to lcd, and the burn-in can be a problem, you just have to avoid static images, the status bar can be a problem, i have see pictures of the time burned into the screen.

No LCD will beat OLED technology and IPS is just LCD. Don't believe that.

varunkumars said:
But you don't know how the SUPER AMOLED PLUS HD is going to look like, only time can tell you.
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I perfectly know what to expect with Super AMOLED Plus HD, its gonna have the same inherit issue as what the non HD counter part has, thought not all screen will be defective but pretty sure it will be at a higher rate than the non HD.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/lgs-yet-to...assing-samsung-galaxy-siis-super-amoled-unit/
The article states that the award pertains to
color accuracy and power consumption
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which shouldn't be surprising at all. Everyone knows that SAMOLED is often oversaturated and burns power when showing whites.
Meanwhile super amoleds (as well as other OLEDs) still outclass LCDs in contrast, viewing angles, response times, color gamut, black levels, and thickness. SAMOLED is still better, and will always be.

You people are missing one point here LG's AH IPS display is a HD screen, whereas s2's amoled screen is not. THe award was won by LG because they were the first to launch HD display, now samsung has its own amoled hd display. So there should be direct comparison between 2 HD screens and not with s2's amoled+

icecreampop3 said:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lgs-yet-to...assing-samsung-galaxy-siis-super-amoled-unit/
The article states that the award pertains to which shouldn't be surprising at all. Everyone knows that SAMOLED is often oversaturated and burns power when showing whites.
Meanwhile super amoleds (as well as other OLEDs) still outclass LCDs in contrast, viewing angles, response times, color gamut, black levels, and thickness. SAMOLED is still better, and will always be.
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That's pretty old, meanwhile LG Nitro has incorporated that HD screen and a battery of 1830mAh.
Has anybody seen the battery life of that thing ? It's a piece of crap even if LG stated that it's more economical than the SA+
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-nitro-hd-completed-our-battery-trial-here-are-the-results-video/

I think samsung should abandon the SAMOLED tech for now.

Burn-in, image retention, colors degrading with time my god there are so many issues with SAMOLED screens I personally dont feel that super amazing contrast is worth all that.
It seems with the galaxy S and nexus S the problems werent as huge as they have become with the SGS2, galaxy note and galaxy nexus. With an LCD phone if there is a problem it will be manufacturing problem and not something that would develop after several months.
It seems with every new generation of SAMOLED screen the image quality is getting better but the problems are getting worse. LCD's on the other hand are only getting better with no problems.
I think if samsung is unable to improve on the SAMOLED tech then they should just suspend it for now until they can improve it. Samsung makes the beautiful LCD on my nexus S, samsung also provides HTC with the screen of the HTC one X which is widely regarded as the best smartphone screen. Samsung also makes the screen of the ipad 3. Samsung obviously knows how to make an LCD thats better than the competition if they were to make one for their own flagship.
So what is your opinion on the matter?

people buy galaxy series for amoled screen so i dont think samsung ever going to stop making them..and as per anandtech review of htc one x display make is sony...
gs2...

manojcitc said:
people buy galaxy series for amoled screen so i dont think samsung ever going to stop making them..and as per anandtech review of htc one x display make is sony...
gs2...
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Alright, first of all, it's not amoled's problem. it is the pentile technology. it lowers the screen res because it shares sub pixels. However, the galaxy s ii uses AMOLED PLUS, the PLUS means it's like LCD, uses RGB layout, with superb colour contrast along with high res graphics, no pentile ruining the details. so just be patient until AMOLED HD PLUS comes out. It will have: High Res, No pentile, High Contrast. Believe me, it will be 100x better than the One X.

Billchen0014 said:
Alright, first of all, it's not amoled's problem. it is the pentile technology. it lowers the screen res because it shares sub pixels. However, the galaxy s ii uses AMOLED PLUS, the PLUS means it's like LCD, uses RGB layout, with superb colour contrast along with high res graphics, no pentile ruining the details. so just be patient until AMOLED HD PLUS comes out. It will have: High Res, No pentile, High Contrast. Believe me, it will be 100x better than the One X.
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But this doesn't sort out (mainly):
-Unnatural colours which need severe and constant attention as individual OLED lifetimes progress
-Strong possibility of burn in and an effectively similar effect (due to OLED lifetimes as above)
-Generally weak outdoors
I'm not sold on either path for the long term, but there is no denying LCDs in the current day have blown past practically all of their disadvantages. The only benefit i see of OLED technology in the foreseeable future is the ability to produce a "true" black (and lower power consumption as a result). While this is an awesome benefit, there is more far bad than good beyond this.
I'm unsure how far engineering can take OLEDs though. If we're hitting the peak of the bell curve i'd have to agree with the OP. Otherwise, competition and choice is good.

After using a samoled screen I could NEVER go back to the washed out colors of a standard led. I have yet to see any type of burn in on my screen. 90% of it's life will be with screen off anyway so really who cares.
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Just Flash It !!!

Go to att store and look at the HTC one x screen. Come back and report that it screen is washed out....

This tech of display was a junk which has used on benq-Siemens mobile phone five years ago.
However, Samsung bought this from someone who develop this screen and keeping develop until now. The problems still don't fix:thumbdown::thumbdown:

In my eyes, Samoled looks really gorgeous and can't live without it. But that's just my opinion.
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albundy2010 said:
Go to att store and look at the HTC one x screen. Come back and report that it screen is washed out....
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No need to go that far, the i9023's SC-LCD is a stunning looking display. My Nexus S easily stands its ground next to my brothers new GNex (which happily doesn't have strong yellow/green tints stock, which makes me like his more than most OLEDs). Considering that it is close, the only benefit his has is definitely the black contrast (big benefit no doubt). Nothing else is particularly noteworthy above the other.
But i can leave my screen on all day knowing it will be just as pretty as always.

Heck even the nexus S i9023 has such a great LCD in my opinion. The colors are more saturated than an iphone 4 but not so much as SAMOLED which in my opinion is the best balance. It's also so visibly sharper and much better whites. If nexus S had retina pixel density then the SC-LCD could match the one X to be honest.
The advantages of SAMOLED are,
Pure blacks
Fastest response time
A smaller footprint which helps in making phones lighter and thinner
Now to me only the first one is a major advantage. But is it worth all the problems? I really dont think so.

Harbb said:
My Nexus S easily stands its ground next to my brothers new GNex
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Yes exactly when I first used the gnexus I thought it's going to blow away the display on my nexus S but it really didnt. I preferred the colors on nexus S and it was also visibly brighter at full brightness.
The gnexus does destroy it in black level but then the nexus S LCD does the same to the gnexus when you compare whites, they were simply horrible on the gnexus. I am really surprised google went with a white background in the messaging app, it not only looks bad on the gnexus but would kill battery as well.

Harbb said:
No need to go that far, the i9023's SC-LCD is a stunning looking display. My Nexus S easily stands its ground next to my brothers new GNex (which happily doesn't have strong yellow/green tints stock, which makes me like his more than most OLEDs). Considering that it is close, the only benefit his has is definitely the black contrast (big benefit no doubt). Nothing else is particularly noteworthy above the other.
But i can leave my screen on all day knowing it will be just as pretty as always.
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Here in the states it is rare to see people with a nexus period. Most that you do see are the sprints. Chances of a 9023 are basically nil.
But yeah if you know someone with a phone that has a good LCD check it out. Or just go down to the store and look. Better yet wait till sprint stores in the us put its version on HTC one x on display. Use that side by side with gnex
That last part was to the person that said LCD sucks. Not harbb

I find it really interesting that most of the people commenting in the thread seem to prefer LCD, but the poll dominates for SAMOLED.

Good point albundy, and i know what you were saying I've never actually seen an i9020A/T/4G myself so i can't compare them to the GNex and i can't remember the last time i saw an SGS around here.
As the poll is worded quite nicely, i think i'll actually vote for once. Too many polls are black and white, nicely played Gambler.
edit: Polls are just that, polls. Just as many people said cpuidle saved more battery than deep idle (i think for quite a while it was more in favor of cpuidle). Look at how that turned out

Back when I would edit photos on my nexus. I really wanted the exact right shade for my eyes on the picture.
Well after I edited the photo on my nexus, upload it to Book it was diffdnt
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Guys, I had a Nexus S i9023 (LCD), and my dad has a i9020T (samoled), and all i can say is that I wish I had his phone... the colors look MUCH MUCH MUCH nicer on a Samoled man!!!!!!!

Coming from a G2, the colors on the NS look much nicer. My phone has a minor blue line where the status bar is, but you really can't see it unless you concentrate on that area. The only reason I saw it was because of some friggin' super white background on some webpage

even if they look nicer they are still fake.
fake is not cool.
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Shark_On_Land said:
even if they look nicer they are still fake.
fake is not cool.
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Go f*ck your iphone
Ps : sarcasm

Heh. Maybe. I enjoy looking at them. Had I been serious about taking photos, I'd probably get an actual camera.

Screen: Arc vs Optimus 2x/G2x

As stated, this thread is purely about the display screen.
I previously had Optimus 2x before, and after dramas and adventures, purchasing an Xperia Arc/Arc S might be part of my plan soon.
Something from Optimus 2x that totally captivated me is its IPS Nova display. The colors are vibrant, power consumption is great, despite whatever other people say, the contrast is incredible, which even led me into believing that it was a Super AMOLED screen for a short while.
I know the reputation of Sony making decent display screens, but the TFT LCD just simply does not sound that attractive.
For those of you who had seen an Optimus 2x/G2x before, how do you think these two fare against each other in terms of screen display?
tl;dr: Optimus 2x/G2x and Arc/Arc S, whose screen is better?

IMO SONY's screen is better than LG's when you look straight on the phone without tilting it, BUT you're gonna be extremely disappointed with viewing angles on the arc.

I second this. The display quality is very good when looking at it directly but tilt it a bit and the contrast drops to ridiculously low levels. It's like Sony did wonders with a really crappy TN screen. You might also be disappointed with washed out dark tones but it's average for an LCD here I'd say.
If you believe that this phone packs great screen you will be disappointed. It's not bad, but it's not great by any means.

progosu said:
IMO SONY's screen is better than LG's when you look straight on the phone without tilting it, BUT you're gonna be extremely disappointed with viewing angles on the arc.
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Times after times, I still don't really get why people care that much about viewing angle. It's a mobile device and could hold it however we want. Doesn't sound like a problem for me.
Thanks for the reply anyway.
szymon247 said:
I second this. The display quality is very good when looking at it directly but tilt it a bit and the contrast drops to ridiculously low levels. It's like Sony did wonders with a really crappy TN screen. You might also be disappointed with washed out dark tones but it's average for an LCD here I'd say.
If you believe that this phone packs great screen you will be disappointed. It's not bad, but it's not great by any means.
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I'm pretty sad to hear this, but thanks

I took a look at friend's LG Swift Black which is said to pack an IPS screen, better than 2X and I'd say the one on Xperia Arc is slightly better when looking at it directly. If you don't care about viewing angles I'd say it should be okay for you. It shouldn't bother you with anything other than the viewing angles. The colors are nice when looking at it directly.

xperia z mini review and which colour did you prefer

Despite some objectively negative comments, and some outright TROLLING Iam a Proud and very happy owner of the Xperia Z having previously owned
Nexus 4
liked - natural sharp looking screen, the look and feel of the phone, also the the high specs and performance, and last but not least the slick and classy looking vanilla android experience.
dilsliked - rumours of fragiltiy, camera performance, BATTERY LIFE, limited storage with no sd card,
Galaxy Note 2
liked - Large Screen (most of the time,) good Specs and Performance, Camera Performance,
disliked - my love/hate relation with amoled colours and saturation, lets face it ugly looking and plastic (iam sorry Samsung,No iam not!) Last But not least, Touchwizz, so practial! but so Ugly! the last two reasons are the main reasons i sold the samsung for Xperia Z.
Xperia Z
So far- Best of Both Worlds.
Like a quote from the movie Blade! ALL OF THIER STRENGTH'S NONE OF THIER WEAKNESESS
but seriously, good battery somewhere inbetween the nexus 4 and note 2, which is what i was hoping for. Screen is good, while it hasn't got the same effect/leap 800x480 to 720p had, let me state that i like the 1080p xperia screen better than previous nexus 4 and note 2.
I can understand why some people dont want to upgrade to xperia z as thier current phones are still powerful enough, What i Dont get, is how some are saying the xperia z is outdated, when at PRESENT there is nothing more powerfull.
the camera on the z is not as mind blowing as i thought it would be, but it takes some nice looking pics and vids.
Yesterday i was out with my friends and i was taking comparison shots with one of them that has a galaxy s3, and all of my friends prefered the shots fom my xperia z,
by the way they all prefered it as a phone than my friends S3, all of them except one, who said that the s3 screen is more vibrant and alive, and no it wasnt' the owner.
The size of the Xperia Z is just right for me, as big as i'd like it to be, but small enough to use comfortably in one hand when compared to my note 2, and friends and family stopped making fun of me whenever i take it out.
Did i mention it's Beatiful, when you go to pick up your phone, and you marvel at it for a second or 2 before swithing the screen on, means the phone is very very good looking,
Plus i can finally watch porn in the bath!:highfive:
I was set on getting the white one as i prefer the look of white phones overall, when i saw it in the flesh, i realised i like black more, the white one was black on the front which i found odd looking it and it was more remenicsent of older xperias.
i dont know, which colour do you prefer?
Do you agrere or disagree with anything i said?
I like reading objective posts negative or positive. What i dont appreciate are comments like outdated technology, crappy screen etc etc.
People who say that, are either threatend by sony's phone or just jealous of it, which is the definiton of a Troll.

Thanks for a nice review
Can't wait to get my XZ next week
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bucho2004 said:
Plus i can finally watch porn in the bath!:highfive:
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bucho2004 said:
Plus i can finally watch porn in the bath!:highfive:
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THIS. You earn my thanks. Let's see anyone try that with any other phone.
On a more serious note, i'm having a hard time deciding between black and white. I'd like to see them in the flesh but it seems wouldn't be able to do so for a good while - i'll have to blind-order it online. which isn't ideal because i wanted to personally test out the screen in person too.
At first i was sold on the uniform, black monolithic look. But the white.. the striking white glass back looks so pure and clean! royalty. Also there's a rumor going on that the white XZ has a better screen than the black but that's pure BS i feel. Wish i could see both colors for myself.
Also, how's the contrast/color of the screen compared to the nexus 4 - outside of the gallery/videos - in the homescreen/ browser etc.

omersak said:
THIS. You earn my thanks. Let's see anyone try that with any other phone.
On a more serious note, i'm having a hard time deciding between black and white. I'd like to see them in the flesh but it seems wouldn't be able to do so for a good while - i'll have to blind-order it online. which isn't ideal because i wanted to personally test out the screen in person too.
At first i was sold on the uniform, black monolithic look. But the white.. the striking white glass back looks so pure and clean! royalty. Also there's a rumor going on that the white XZ has a better screen than the black but that's pure BS i feel. Wish i could see both colors for myself.
Also, how's the contrast/color of the screen compared to the nexus 4 - outside of the gallery/videos - in the homescreen/ browser etc.
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From what I remember about the nexus 4 screen, the Xperia z screen looks superior, the 1080p screen. Probably has something to do with it, I 've put a black screen wallpaper, and its black.
the actual Xperia menu are dark grey, which at first I thought it was black and was dissappointed, but in all honesty after knowing the grey is supposed to be grey, I quite like it now, it makes it very very utilitarian, which is what Sony Was going for with the styling of the Xperia z. Dont worry about it the screen. is great.
The only complaint I might have are viewing angles are better on note 2. However for me that is non issue, I bet viewing angles are a compromise due to Sony making it waterproof, which I can live with

Xperia SP with a unbelievably "white-washed" display

Just bought the Xperia a few days ago and been playing around with it ever since. by end of the Day One, I find the overly whitish brightness increasingly annoying. and the more I compare them with the display in other phones, the more I find it unbelievable that Sony would be incapable of incorporating a better display into this phone. In fact, after having personal first-hand user experience with the phone, and making repeated visit to the Sony Centre with its full range of Xperia smartphones on display, and comparing the SP with the displays on other models, I found that Sony phones general has that whitish overexposed element which are not present in smartphones from other brands, HTC, Samsung. Heck, even a ACER and LENOVO phones has better display in term of its viewing angles and in showing white colour. Displaying black is acceptable but the moment there is any bright colour, all hell break loose with the display, with pictures and graphics looking like they have been photoshopped and tweaked to the maximum brightness. I find this totally unacceptable and I am putting the phone on garage sale forum already, which is rather unfortunate, because other than the display, I am very fond of the phone's design, material and the general simplicity of Xperia interface.
It is a complete mystery why nobody and none of the reviews make a bigger issue about gross inadequacy. it is utterly terrible. I am sure I am not the one only here who noticed this. can any members here share your views on this ?

Lol... I've had many android devices and I always prefer the whites on the Sony devices because they're the ones that actually look whiter while other devices have whites that are way too warm and ruin many pictures... Don't understand your complaint...
Adjust your white balance on the settings

watchman.see said:
Just bought the Xperia a few days ago and been playing around with it ever since. by end of the Day One, I find the overly whitish brightness increasingly annoying. and the more I compare them with the display in other phones, the more I find it unbelievable that Sony would be incapable of incorporating a better display into this phone. In fact, after having personal first-hand user experience with the phone, and making repeated visit to the Sony Centre with its full range of Xperia smartphones on display, and comparing the SP with the displays on other models, I found that Sony phones general has that whitish overexposed element which are not present in smartphones from other brands, HTC, Samsung. Heck, even a ACER and LENOVO phones has better display in term of its viewing angles and in showing white colour. Displaying black is acceptable but the moment there is any bright colour, all hell break loose with the display, with pictures and graphics looking like they have been photoshopped and tweaked to the maximum brightness. I find this totally unacceptable and I am putting the phone on garage sale forum already.
It is a complete mystery why nobody and none of the reviews make a bigger issue about gross inadequacy. it is utterly terrible. I am sure I am not the one only here who noticed this. can any members here share your views on this ?
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I also compared the display with other smartphones. Its like u said. Even the HTC Desire Z, which is more then 3 years old, got a much better display.
This was my first sony smartphone and for sure, the last. Its not only the display. I noticed many more things, which should be better.
Sony failed!

ZakooZ said:
Lol... I've had many android devices and I always prefer the whites on the Sony devices because they're the ones that actually look whiter while other devices have whites that are way too warm and ruin many pictures... Don't understand your complaint...
Adjust your white balance on the settings
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you have no idea what I am talking about. the white balance is already at its lowest possible setting. adjusting anymore will only change the tint effect and not the brightness. it is not just whiter. it looks OVER-EXPOSED. do you even know what an overexposed pictures taken by a camera look like ?
when a colour that is supposed to look red started to look like pink from certain angle, it is just pure, unaduterated, lame display.

In that case, get yourself an Xperia Z1 or Z Ultra..they have amazing displays with
good viewing angles thanks to the Triluminous Display and X-Reality
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I have the same problem, not that the phone looks over exposed ..
but the screen is compared to the xperia ray of my gf rubbish....
i'm confused.
But seeing that my SP also has a bad issue of a dodgy touchscreen, and random severe input lags, my guess is that i got a "lemon" phone
again im not thrashing any SP's out there, just guessing that i got one faulty device of the bunch thats out there

The screen hasn't got the best viewing angles, I agree. I also find the gamma curve is biased towards showing a lot of definition in darker tones, which leads to the impression of reduced contrast - ie: dark tones don't look dark enough until they're near to black.
Those criticims aside I find the screen very good quality. I'm glad I don't have to live with Samsung's "technicolor" OLED screen where everything's pumped up.
Also, turn off BE2 if you want natural colurs and contrast.

watchman.see said:
Just bought the Xperia a few days ago and been playing around with it ever since. by end of the Day One, I find the overly whitish brightness increasingly annoying. and the more I compare them with the display in other phones, the more I find it unbelievable that Sony would be incapable of incorporating a better display into this phone. In fact, after having personal first-hand user experience with the phone, and making repeated visit to the Sony Centre with its full range of Xperia smartphones on display, and comparing the SP with the displays on other models, I found that Sony phones general has that whitish overexposed element which are not present in smartphones from other brands, HTC, Samsung. Heck, even a ACER and LENOVO phones has better display in term of its viewing angles and in showing white colour. Displaying black is acceptable but the moment there is any bright colour, all hell break loose with the display, with pictures and graphics looking like they have been photoshopped and tweaked to the maximum brightness. I find this totally unacceptable and I am putting the phone on garage sale forum already, which is rather unfortunate, because other than the display, I am very fond of the phone's design, material and the general simplicity of Xperia interface.
It is a complete mystery why nobody and none of the reviews make a bigger issue about gross inadequacy. it is utterly terrible. I am sure I am not the one only here who noticed this. can any members here share your views on this ?
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Try Nokia 1280 bro best display of all smartphones in 2013 even better than s4
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dara007_168 said:
Try Nokia 1280 bro best display of all smartphones in 2013 even better than s4
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Capt'n Sarcasm to the Rescue

watchman.see said:
Just bought the Xperia a few days ago.... and the more I compare them with the display in other phones..... Xperia smartphones on display, and comparing the SP with the displays on other models, other brands, HTC, Samsung. Heck, even a ACER and LENOVO phones has better display in term of its viewing angles and in showing white colour.
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Perhaps next time, make your comparisons before purchasing your phone.
Secondly, all this talk of viewing angles, now, forgive me for being a little simplistic here, but, as a general rule, I, and probably many others, tend to hold my phone pretty much parallel to my eyes, why anyone would want to look at their phone at any angle other than say 30 odd degrees to this is completely beyond me!???
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technaudio said:
Perhaps next time, make your comparisons before purchasing your phone.
Secondly, all this talk of viewing angles, now, forgive me for being a little simplistic here, but, as a general rule, I, and probably many others, tend to hold my phone pretty much parallel to my eyes, why anyone would want to look at their phone at any angle other than say 30 odd degrees to this is completely beyond me!???
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After reading the replies, I noticed the difference in quality is there but apparently, some people doesn't find that it is a big issue, which is a complete mystery to me. one good example is this kind of comment, which make absolutely no sense in how one justify and defending an obvious fundamental flaw. "as a general rule", people nowadays do put their phones on the tables and turn their sight to somewhere else and then glance at its side from the sight. the same goes for the tablets. maybe, you hold and look at your phone right in front of you day and night, but if you don;t know single person who doesn't do that all the time and expect to be able to see the same colour and contrast when you are viewing your phone when they are lying on the table, then the problem lies with you. seriously, even if you hold the phone directly in front of the eyes, the ****ty quality of the display is so significant, it just boggle my mind why so many people wanna defend the indefensible ? the inferiority in comparision to the display in other phones are clear and present, why would you or anyone allow a phonemaker to give you a display that has brightness that give you a completely washed-out effect, when the display on even a China no-name brand doesnt ? just because you grew up with a Sony Ericsson phone and has a soft spot for it ?

Sadman Khan said:
In that case, get yourself an Xperia Z1 or Z Ultra..they have amazing displays with
good viewing angles thanks to the Triluminous Display and X-Reality
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that is not an option. i chose Xperia SP because of the size, which is just right for mobility and convenience sake. Xperia Z1 is too big and Z Ultra is just ridiculous. it is a mini tablet, not a phone. and since you brought this up, this is what irks me the most. these two upper-end models are the one only with a display that has the natural brightness and colour seen in phone from Samsung Galaxy, HTC etc but their screen display are consistent across the entire range from budget to upper-end. mind you, this "Triluminous Display and X-Reality" doesn't really offer anything new or fancy, it is just a fancy term of Sony to integrate something into its phone display to make them look comparable to phones from other brands, something they should have included in its range of phones to begin with. I highly suspect that Sony deliberately skim on the quality of the display for this Xperia SP in exchange of giving you a mid-ranged 4G LTE phone with Adreno 320.

Onecton said:
I have the same problem, not that the phone looks over exposed ..
but the screen is compared to the xperia ray of my gf rubbish....
i'm confused.
But seeing that my SP also has a bad issue of a dodgy touchscreen, and random severe input lags, my guess is that i got a "lemon" phone
again im not thrashing any SP's out there, just guessing that i got one faulty device of the bunch thats out there
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no one should apologise for thrashing Xperia SP. dont even get me started on the insensitive touchscreen AND the totally unbelievably weak WIFI reception. I am talking about a wifi connection that I have been using for years in my house, and is being used and detected now by other Samsung, Iphones, tablets, notebooks in the house now. nine out of ten times, the Xperia SP is unable to detect, latch on and then subsequently connect to the WIFI signal after I went outside and returned home. this has never happen to any of the devices we used in the house before, except when the device is faulty to begin with.

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that is not an option. i chose Xperia SP because of the size, which is just right for mobility and convenience sake. Xperia Z1 is too big and Z Ultra is just ridiculous. it is a mini tablet, not a phone. and since you brought this up, this is what irks me the most. these two upper-end models are the one only with a display that has the natural brightness and colour seen in phone from Samsung Galaxy, HTC etc but their screen display are consistent across the entire range from budget to upper-end. mind you, this "Triluminous Display and X-Reality" doesn't really offer anything new or fancy, it is just a fancy term of Sony to integrate something into its phone display to make them look comparable to phones from other brands, something they should have included in its range of phones to begin with. I highly suspect that Sony deliberately skim on the quality of the display for this Xperia SP in exchange of giving you a mid-ranged 4G LTE phone with Adreno 320.
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All i meant to say was that, if you stick to Sony, then right now only these two offer the good displays with good viewing angles..besides the honami mini will also be released and that just might be the perfect phone for you. SP has great hardware and software and really at this price range, a phone cannot get any better . It's a high end phone with mid range price. I personally prefer phones with viewing angles like SP because it's more private. Or else people can read anything or see anything from anywhere -_- again, that's just my opinion. My idea is to switch to a Z1 mini when it comes out. The quality of the display is something i need, and viewing angles is just a plus point to me. I really don't care much if the viewing angles are good or bad as i do always use my phone at parallel eye level
And trust me, i know the difference in display as i myself come from an Htc One X which has awesome viewing angles but sadly this phone has far better battery, speed and gaming performance than One X
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After reading the replies, I noticed the difference in quality is there but apparently, some people doesn't find that it is a big issue, which is a complete mystery to me. one good example is this kind of comment, which make absolutely no sense in how one justify and defending an obvious fundamental flaw. "as a general rule", people nowadays do put their phones on the tables and turn their sight to somewhere else and then glance at its side from the sight. the same goes for the tablets. maybe, you hold and look at your phone right in front of you day and night, but if you don;t know single person who doesn't do that all the time and expect to be able to see the same colour and contrast when you are viewing your phone when they are lying on the table, then the problem lies with you. seriously, even if you hold the phone directly in front of the eyes, the ****ty quality of the display is so significant, it just boggle my mind why so many people wanna defend the indefensible ? the inferiority in comparision to the display in other phones are clear and present, why would you or anyone allow a phonemaker to give you a display that has brightness that give you a completely washed-out effect, when the display on even a China no-name brand doesnt ? just because you grew up with a Sony Ericsson phone and has a soft spot for it ?
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I think the display is fine myself. Samsung displays, in. My opinion, are bloody awful, yes, you might be able to see it from pretty much perpendicular to your eyes, but the dreadfully oversaturated colours are terrible. Add to that the phone isn't that good looking (again, my opinion) and the people I know that have got one have both complained about poor build quality (chrome bezel peeling off) and rubbish battery life, and Samsung STILL insist on putting the back and multitask button s the wrong way round!
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Sadman Khan said:
All i meant to say was that, if you stick to Sony, then right now only these two offer the good displays with good viewing angles..besides the honami mini will also be released and that just might be the perfect phone for you. SP has great hardware and software and really at this price range, a phone cannot get any better . It's a high end phone with mid range price. I personally prefer phones with viewing angles like SP because it's more private. Or else people can read anything or see anything from anywhere -_- again, that's just my opinion. My idea is to switch to a Z1 mini when it comes out. The quality of the display is something i need, and viewing angles is just a plus point to me. I really don't care much if the viewing angles are good or bad as i do always use my phone at parallel eye level
And trust me, i know the difference in display as i myself come from an Htc One X which has awesome viewing angles but sadly this phone has far better battery, speed and gaming performance than One X
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incidentally, I happen to remember looking closely at the Xperia Z in the Sony Centre and still remember its display screen as having a certain whitish element not present in other phone. and its comparatively inferior constrast ratio is more or less corroborated by some reviews, including this one http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-review-887.php
Main disadvantage
Low contrast display with below-par viewing angles
Non user-replaceable battery
13MP camera hardly any better than some competitors' 8MP units
Feeble loudspeaker
More disturbingly, the display has rather poor contrast for a flagship unit and not really inspiring colors. As testified by the measurements in our dedicated test it comes nowhere near the standard of its main competitors and it even fared worse than its predecessor.
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I guess I will stay away from Sony Xperia phones until they completely overhauled its display technology. It is a pity, as I generally prefer the the simple elegance of Sony Xperia's phone design.

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I guess I will stay away from Sony Xperia phones until they completely overhauled its display technology. It is a pity, as I generally prefer the the simple elegance of Sony Xperia's phone design.
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Welcome to the new age. Welcome to Xperia Z1.
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lee480 said:
Welcome to the new age. Welcome to Xperia Z1.
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I will accept it once I have seen it. as far as I am concerned, it is the dark ages if Sony only use its upgraded display tech on its high-end phones and skim on them on its mid to low-range phones. if Samsung and HTC can do it with across its range of phones, there is absolutely no reason for Sony to be unable to do it.

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I will accept it once I have seen it. as far as I am concerned, it is the dark ages if Sony only use its upgraded display tech on its high-end phones and skim on them on its mid to low-range phones. if Samsung and HTC can do it with across its range of phones, there is absolutely no reason for Sony to be unable to do it.
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I don't have any problem with my phone. .245 update solved the random touch bug and wifi for me, and I think the screen is pretty good, although kind of reflective.
You might want to have your phone checked. My display is made by JDC.
I have Samsung phones, so I know what amoled looks like. LCD displays are sharper, but amoleds have better contrast.
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Before SP I had Xperia J (changed it because it was too slow for me) and the display of the J (lower resolution thou) have better black contrast and it is better looking.
The XSP display have really washed out colors like the Nexus 7 (2012) have and on the SP I think they are even worse.
I have made this test: made a screenshot of my phone desktop and then saw the picture in the album - when the Bravia ENGINE optimized the picture - it looked far better.
Is there a way to make Bravia ENGINE work all the time in real time ?