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Hi!
I'am so happy with my Nexus 4, but today when i was outside i noticed many "squares" on the screen when i tilted it a bit.
Can somebody in here reproduce this by going outside and carefully tilt the device whit the screen of and on?
Is this normal or should i return the phone?
krille_java said:
Hi!
I'am so happy with my Nexus 4, but today when i was outside i noticed many "squares" on the screen when i tilted it a bit.
Can somebody in here reproduce this by going outside and carefully tilt the device whit the screen of and on?
Is this normal or should i return the phone?
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You should definitely return it. It's clearly defective.
.../facepalm
I see them when my screen is off. Don't worry about it, they've been on all of my phones before my N4 as well.
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I have never seen this before on any phone.
That's why i'am asking
They're only visible when Mine's off and I wouldn't worry about it unless they show up when the screen is on...
Tapatalked from my h4x0r3d up Mako.
i noticed it on my nexus 4 as well. but i only see it when im outside in the sunlight and my screen is off. i dont see it all the time but at times when i tilt the phone i do see it. i figured it was just the way the screen was. it was no biggie to me
I saw mine while using it out in the sun. They are also clearly visible when the screen is off. How many threads do we need about this?
ThunderWolf78 said:
They're only visible when Mine's off and I wouldn't worry about it unless they show up when the screen is on...
Tapatalked from my h4x0r3d up Mako.
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I see them when the screen is on in daylight...
krille_java said:
I see them when the screen is on in daylight...
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Do you see them under heavy sunlight? This might be the case. Normally, they shouldn't be seen. However, if I look extremely closely on a specific background colour (which I don't remember now) I can barely see them.
Unbelievable. Another thread about this.
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Unbelievable. Another thread about this.
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Sv: [Q] Can you see the screen matrix conductors??
I returned my phone yesterday and got a new nexus 4. Whiteout the conductors showing on the screen! I bought it in Sweden on netonnet and they told me that these conductors should not be showing so much on the screen. I mean I could actually take a picture on the conductors!
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I've had my Nexus 4 for about 3 months now, and I'm starting to have a serious issue with image persistence on the screen. As of recently it has gotten very bad, and when I browse Chrome for 5 minutes, and flick the tab away, revealing the brown-grey screen, I can see the URL bar along with the URL address burnt on to the screen. It seems to go away after a while, but actually if I turn the brightness up to maximum and look it is still there. Does anyone else suffer from this same problem?
I haven't yet but I'd say get Screen test set it to the white test setting set your phone to not turn off screen when charging an leave over night that might help clear the screen burn. I haven't had this issue on any of my androids.
Simply; yes. I think that's a bit more widespread issue than one could think.
What I have noticed is it eventually does clear. But it seems to be taking longer and longer to do so. Right now (it has been about 30 minutes) the URL bar and the address has gone, but there is still a white patch where they were. I've read about IPS-LCD image persistence, but most sites say it clears after about two minutes.
zero burn in here, ive have mine for about a month. how bright do you keep your screen?
Yea, for me it's just like 2 - 4 minutes and the burn is gone.
I have auto-brightness on most of the time, typically it ranges from the lowest setting, to about the middle setting. When I'm in the house I turn off auto-brightness. I've just checked again and it is still there, that's almost an hour now. I haven't been using it either, it's been in sleep, but I have been periodically checking it.
rabbit140 said:
Yea, for me it's just like 2 - 4 minutes and the burn is gone.
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How long have you had the phone for?
I've had it since Christmas.
Haven't got that on mine - if I were you I'd send it back under warranty and Google or LG should should send you a replacement if its a defect in the screen
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Huh, I thought LCD screens could not be "burned in".
Interesting (and no, I haven't seen it on mine).
Yeah I don't see this problem, and I thought this was an issue with AMOLED screens and the like
One thing that annoying me on my nexus 4. You can see on the left of my screen, straight dark line from top to bottom. I haven't drop my nexus before. It appeared on dark colours especially grey colours. For your info its start to appeared when 10 minutes screen on after about 20 minutes screen off. Is it normal? Anyone here have the same problem?
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I exchanged mine for the same type of screen defect. It's definitely a defect. My new one is perfect..
I dont think that lcd screen has this issue. My galaxy nexus has screen burn in and it is very awful
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This isn't screen burn in, it is called "Transient Image Persistence" and it is not permanent like the AMOLED burn in... this thing dissapears relatively fast but it's still annoying... I have the same problem.
Tom540 said:
Haven't got that on mine - if I were you I'd send it back under warranty and Google or LG should should send you a replacement if its a defect in the screen
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The problem is though I have had it since the end of December. Would they still accept it? Like I said in the OP though it seems to be getting worse, before the image would at least go away. But now it seems to have retained it permanently.
phadly said:
One thing that annoying me on my nexus 4. You can see on the left of my screen, straight dark line from top to bottom. I haven't drop my nexus before. It appeared on dark colours especially grey colours. For your info its start to appeared when 10 minutes screen on after about 20 minutes screen off. Is it normal? Anyone here have the same problem?
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Yeah I also have this problem, I have a couple of vertical lines running up my screen, they are only visible if I turn it to full brightness, and have it on a grey background though.
ingenious247 said:
I exchanged mine for the same type of screen defect. It's definitely a defect. My new one is perfect..
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By perfect do you mean it doesn't retain the image at all, or that it fades relatively quick? I wouldn't mind if it went after like a minute or two, but mine seems to never go away.
babywarez said:
This isn't screen burn in, it is called "Transient Image Persistence" and it is not permanent like the AMOLED burn in... this thing dissapears relatively fast but it's still annoying... I have the same problem.
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Yeah I mentioned that in the OP. The problem is though mine has still not faded. I basically have a permanent Chrome URL box at the top of my screen, with a sort of white mark around it. If I have used chrome recently it becomes fully visible at any brightness. But if I leave it for a few hours it is only fully visible at maximum brightness.
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By perfect do you mean it doesn't retain the image at all, or that it fades relatively quick? I wouldn't mind if it went after like a minute or two, but mine seems to never go away.
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By 'perfect' I mean I don't have a single vertical line, ever, and no image retention at all.
babywarez said:
This isn't screen burn in, it is called "Transient Image Persistence" and it is not permanent like the AMOLED burn in... this thing dissapears relatively fast but it's still annoying... I have the same problem.
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Nice founding..related to voltage..for your info it actually start happened when I'm using franco kernel and UV -150mv..maybe this cause of this problem? Will try to run solid white image for hours to cure it..
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By 'perfect' I mean I don't have a single vertical line, ever, and no image retention at all.
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Wow, nothing at all? Even when on full brightness? When did you get your device, and what hardware revision is it?
phadly said:
Nice founding..related to voltage..for your info it actually start happened when I'm using franco kernel and UV -150mv..maybe this cause of this problem? Will try to run solid white image for hours to cure it..
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I'm on full stock, and not rooted. Like I said I have already looked at that online, but it is supposed to disappear after a few minutes. Mine is retained for hours, actually it hasn't went away since I've noticed it, so it's pretty much permanent.
I took it out of the box and noticed the problem right away. I can't replicate it since the flickering is very random and very quick. Anybody else experiencing this problem?
Itaintrite said:
I took it out of the box and noticed the problem right away. I can't replicate it since the flickering is very random and very quick. Anybody else experiencing this problem?
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Turn off your auto brightness in the settings. Mine does the same thing. I've never seen an Android device with smooth brightness adjustments. My HTC One was pretty awful, too.
Itaintrite said:
I took it out of the box and noticed the problem right away. I can't replicate it since the flickering is very random and very quick. Anybody else experiencing this problem?
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Please don't tell me the 2013 suffers the same fate as the first version. My main reason why I want to upgrade mine to 2013 because mine flickers if I am in a dark room.
WilliamG said:
Turn off your auto brightness in the settings. Mine does the same thing. I've never seen an Android device with smooth brightness adjustments. My HTC One was pretty awful, too.
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Holy crap I turned it off and now its flickering constantly at about 30%. And the full screen blackout flickering still persists. I think this one gotta go back.
Itaintrite said:
Holy crap I turned it off and now its flickering constantly at about 30%. And the full screen blackout flickering still persists. I think this one gotta go back.
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Try set it above 30% of total brightness. That did the trick on my first gen.
Itaintrite said:
Holy crap I turned it off and now its flickering constantly at about 30%. And the full screen blackout flickering still persists. I think this one gotta go back.
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Here's my post from Reddit...
Purchased 2013 Nexus 7 on Thursday and have run into a concerning issue.
When the screen's brightness is set to less than approximately 50%, I've noticed considerable screen flickering and less occasionally the screen goes black for half a second. I thought originally the problem was unique to chrome but I am noticing the issue system wide now. The tablet is set to manual brightness control, as well.
Is anyone else experiencing this? Can anyone shed some light on what I'd causing this phenomenon and/or how to fix it?
znibbor said:
Here's my post from Reddit...
Purchased 2013 Nexus 7 on Thursday and have run into a concerning issue.
When the screen's brightness is set to less than approximately 50%, I've noticed considerable screen flickering and less occasionally the screen goes black for half a second. I thought originally the problem was unique to chrome but I am noticing the issue system wide now. The tablet is set to manual brightness control, as well.
Is anyone else experiencing this? Can anyone shed some light on what I'd causing this phenomenon and/or how to fix it?
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This is exactly the same problem I have. Will order another one from a different reseller to make sure different batch. It happened as soon as I took the tablet out of box so I don't think its a software problem.
I don't have this issue on my new Nexus. I did have it with the first generation model.
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I had some flickering as well, but it was intermittent. I read somewhere about what people may have done for the problem with the original N7 and one of the suggested solutions was to turn off Wifi Optimization. I did that...and mysteriously, I haven't suffered from the flickering issue since. I'm not exactly sure what one may have to do with the other, but it has worked for me as far as I can tell.
I have seen it as well only on auto dim. Looks like a bad proximity sensor. But it comes and goes. Some apps worse than others. Tapatalk being one. Tried the WiFi trick above, doesn't work for me.
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Don't ever attempt to set brightness to below 30% if you're experiencing this problem. I did just to see how it'd go, didn't go well. Screen flickered a bit then went black (or just really really dark). Had to reboot. Staying above 50% brightness solves the constant flickering problem, but I still get that millisecond screen blackout. Hopefully second one coming from Amazon is better than this. No dead pixel though, so that's a good start.
Got a new unit and problem does not exist, so old one was definitely defective. Screen does not flicker when set at even 20%.
Mine does none of this, mad dim or auto dim there is no flicker. Perhaps anyone with this problem should exchange asap.
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I have the screen flicker issue when I enable auto brightness. If I disable auto brightness and leave brightness level above 30% then I am good to go. I am not satisfied with this workaround so I am going to try to get an exchange at Best Buy as soon as they have more in stock.
It is strange last night, I manually slid the brightness slider below 30% and it was able to dim properly whereas it would in my case go completely dark. But as soon as I tried the auto brightness, it would start to act up again. It gets to the point where I have to try to turn the screen off and on several times before I can even get a chance to disable the auto brightness again.
I am glad to hear that this issue is limited and that I can get a good unit and that this issue is hardware related and not software.
I have return my first Nexus because of bad flickering above 50%. It seems like a senor issue. With the second Nexus, I am using it in a dark room tonight on auto brightness without any flickering issue.
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Flickering for me every couple of minutes, manual brightness, anything below 50% going to try to exchange at office depot today.
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Experienced it on my first original Nexus 7, replaced it and the next didn't have it. Our new 2013 Nexus 7 doesn't seem to be doing it at all. Like others have said, it seems to be an issue with just some of them, hopefully replacing it works for those experiencing it here as well...
Mine did this at first also for the first day then never happened again
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I get some flickering on my nex 4 in the lock screen when the brightness is set to bottom low. I haven't experienced it on the new nex but I'm using auto brightness. Not sure if it is related though.
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Experienced it for first time today. Toggled auto brightness on and off and it stopped. Definitely something to do with sensor.
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So i noticed about a week ago when I bring up a black or grey background there was a red smudge in the pixels about two inches long. Finally got around to contacting Asus and i have to send it in now.
Just curious, does anyone else have this?
you can see it next to storage and battery
I do, only noticeable when the screen is all black.. Never really bothered me..
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toughcookie said:
So i noticed about a week ago when I bring up a black or grey background there was a red smudge in the pixels about two inches long. Finally got around to contacting Asus and i have to send it in now.
Just curious, does anyone else have this?
you can see it next to storage and battery
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I don't remember where, but I've seen something similar to this on another device. I'm guessing there's electronics pressed against the screen in those areas, creating an effect sort of like when you push on an LCD screen with your finger.
Hi all,
I've had my N4 since January, and I've noticed that I've started to suffer from a screen burn-like issue. I use Dolphin Browser, and use phase beam live wallpaper (purple one, not red). When I've used dolphin for a few minutes and return to my home screen, I notice that the refresh and '+' icon from dolphin browser are imprinted on the screen. It goes away after about a minute or when I reboot the phone, but I wondered if anyone knew why this would be happening or if there's any solution? Also, when checking my work schedule on Polaris office, I notice that the grid pattern from the excel file is imprinted on my homescreen for a few moments too. Do you think it is worth RMAing for a new device? Everything else is fine.
I'm running stock, unrooted.
Thanks
Bump.
It has been explained to me that IPS displays do not get screen burn in. They just "ghost" momentarily. I don't know of a way to avoid this other than possibly lowering the brightness? As you said, it goes away after a few minutes, or a reboot. A reboot should always fix this kind of problem on IPS displays.
But to answer your question: An RMA won't fix it. This happens with all IPS displays, as far as I know.
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I bought my Nexus 4 back in march and sent it in because of a dark vertical line on the left side of the screen that would not go away. Got my replacement about 2 weeks ago and am having the screen burn in issue you are having too. I never had this problem with my old device.
I'll probably wait a month or two and send this one in too if it continues to bother me.
shadowslash said:
I bought my Nexus 4 back in march and sent it in because of a dark vertical line on the left side of the screen that would not go away. Got my replacement about 2 weeks ago and am having the screen burn in issue you are having too. I never had this problem with my old device.
I'll probably wait a month or two and send this one in too if it continues to bother me.
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Wow, after reading this i hope some experienced user could tune into this thread and elaborate on what is happening here?
I'm not really worried of getting it any time soon, as i heard it's not supposed to happen on the screen the Nexus 4 sports,however, i could be wrong..Anyone?
This is common with IPS displays, and is not called "burn in" as the effects are temporary. True "burn in" is permanent.
Rather, this is referred to as "image retention" or "image persistence." It was/is a big problem with the new retina Macbook Pros which showed a severe form of this problem (my first one included, got a replacement which is much better, but still shows a bit of image retention sometimes).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_persistence
I've had mine since May and I am just now experiencing this. I have tried displaying a pure white screen overnight a few days a week, but I am unwilling to leave my phone turned off for a few days. Is there any other remedy?
You guys are asking for a solution to wear and tear? Put the Nexus 4 in a box and don't use it.
I have this with the Amazon app :') seems like really dark blacks stay on the screen for a few minutes even after the app is closed not a big issue but it got me worried the first time
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I have the same problem in my LG G2, its IPS Too and have 2 weeks old. I think its normal in IPS Screens.
Happens to me sometimes with the facebook app. When using the app for a longer time the top menu bar stays slightly visible afterwards. I only really see it on my home screen, though.
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Same here
I use Screen Burn-in Tool (Play Store)
play. google. com /store / apps / details?id= com. codefortravel. amoled_screen_burn_in&hl=en
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Run it a few times while charging, problem solved for me.