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MyFaves without MyFaves application?

Greetings, xda-developers! I've been lurking the forums for a little while, probably since Cupcake was rumored back in December. Nice to meet all of you instead of hiding in the shadows.
Anyway, I have a question. I have a rooted G1 with TheDude's Cupcake 1.1, which obviously does not come with MyFaves. I've thought of switching my plan to a MyFaves plan because I've been wasting minutes talking to a lot of the same people. My question is, Can I have the MyFaves plan without the MyFaves application? And if so, would I just set the 5 numbers up through Customer Service? I've searched high and low for the myfaves.apk but I've yet to find it.
Thanks in advance!

You can also set your myfaves on the my.t-mobile website too, from what i've read. I wouldn't know as I am not on a myfaves plan.

That's what I was thinking too, but does T-Mo recognize it if the app isn't present? Oh, and I just checked my account online, and it looks like I already have MyFaves but I don't have a MyFaves plan. Under the monthly usage it shows:
Whenever Minutes
Messages
MyFaves
Mobile to Mobile
Night & Weekend
All the other ones show correct usage and the MyFaves bracket says "Used - 0. Remaining - Unlimited"
Did I get a free gift from T-Mobile?

I am M3 said:
Can I have the MyFaves plan without the MyFaves application?
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Yes, however many customer services reps will claim that you cannot. They aren't lying to you but a lot of the documentation they use can lead them astray in the answers department.
I am M3 said:
And if so, would I just set the 5 numbers up through Customer Service?
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No. You do it through the my.t-mobile.com web portal. Log in (register if you haven't already) and you'll see a "Mobile Life" section on the upper right of the page with a pull down for MyFaves management.
I am M3 said:
I've searched high and low for the myfaves.apk but I've yet to find it.
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You will not find it legally. The MyFaves apk is a proprietary T-Mobile application.

uberingram said:
You will not find it legally. The MyFaves apk is a proprietary T-Mobile application.
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Actually you can't find it period, atleast not in a version compatible with Android 1.5. You'll have to wait another 1-2 weeks for T-Mo US to release the 1.5 update for that.

jashsu said:
Actually you can't find it period
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I only said that because some know it all would surely post something along the lines of "LOL NOOB. I HAZ IT!" *attach*

uberingram said:
I only said that because some know it all would surely post something along the lines of "LOL NOOB. I HAZ IT!" *attach*
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Haha yeah.
All the other ones show correct usage and the MyFaves bracket says "Used - 0. Remaining - Unlimited"
Did I get a free gift from T-Mobile?
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Unfortunately, nope. It shows up as a line entry, but the actual provisioning of your 5 faves is inaccessible unless you upgrade to a myfaves plan. As uberingram pointed out above, it's in the My Services -> MobileLife section of the webpage. The layout of the webpage is a mess, but I guess this is really just par for the course for a mobile carrier (I also had Cingular/ATT for a few years, and it was just as bad)

just to confirm..
Hi guys, I wanted to clarify something in regards to the question asked in this thread. I've been lurking about since I first heard of the hero build haykuro is working on following that thread. I have not rooted my G1 but after seeing the videos I'm definitly tempted should that build ever release. My only concern with rooting is the lose of myfaves, would hate to think what it would do to my bill lol. So for my own peace of mind if I understand you guys even without having the myfaves app on my phone I can still use it so long as I have it set up through the tmobile site correct?

Koshuu said:
So for my own peace of mind if I understand you guys even without having the MyFaves app on my phone I can still use it so long as I have it set up through the tmobile site correct?
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I thought the same thing when I went over to JF1.5 build. Since then I have been able to go to T-Mob's website and look at my MyFaves contacts and make changes as well. So to answer your question, yes you do get to call the 5 people in your MyFaves for free, even though the app is not on your phone.

yeah I use to have a 8525 and my girlfriend has a 8925 both from ATT, and myfavs worked on them. So if it will work on a non T-Mobile phone, it will work on the G1 without the app.

Awesome, thank you both for the reply. It was the biggest thing on my mind I thought I would lose it, guess I don't need to worry about it anymore then. Thanks again, I appreciate the quick responses

Yes, thank you all for the quick replies. I'm going to switch my plan. Another question though, and I may have to call T-Mo for this one
Once I change my plan, do they prorate it and does it take effect immediately or on the next billing cycle?

if I remeber correctly its the next billing cycle.

Tethering in 2.1???

Does any one know if tethering will be done with out the verizon 30 dlr charge? I just installed 2.1 yesterady and have had zero problems.

I will answer my own question, it is possible with a simple app from the android market, it's called eazy tether lite, just follow directions on install, and remember not to go over the 5gb limit.

There is not cap on how much you can you use internet on your phone ...Just call verizon and verify if you don't believe me.

ecatano79 said:
I will answer my own question, it is possible with a simple app from the android market, it's called eazy tether lite, just follow directions on install, and remember not to go over the 5gb limit.
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For those of you who don't know, that 5gb limit is for the mobile broadband card (see link for reference of what I mean); all of the Verizon reps I have talked to said that the internet package is TRULY unlimited. Thus, I use Pandora pretty much every single day. No increase on the bill yet.

I have to say this because I/We(Sickbox) just told someone else this. Questions about apps should go in the Android app section accessable from the HTC Droid Eris screen. I know it really didn't start as an "app" question but in reality it did. Anyways carry on and don't forget about the other sections just outside of the Android Development section.

PDA Net is also a good program for us non rooted folks

You may get throttled back over 5gig but not blocked.

Question

would it be possible to boot chromium os instead of ubuntu, i know it may sounds silly because why would you want to use chromium? but i think it would be pretty interesting to see how fast it boots on a mobile device and also if you wanted to browse the net fast and have quick startup times then it would be the way to go

I was actually just browsing on some chrome os info and was wondering the same thing. if we can boon linux... can we possibly boot chromium ?

Isnt it a fully online OS? What for ppl without dataplan?

lol, screw people without a data plan. I see no reason to ever get a smartphone, that has all these many features, and never get a data plan.
seriously, what is the point? you cant use any features unless you are connected to wifi. not everywhere is there wifi. and if there is, most of the time its not an open network, and if it is an open network, i hope that there is someone there packet sniffing and catching your info for being cheap and not getting a data plan.
bottom line, get a data plan. t-mobile has an unlimited plan as do most others. i've used 10 gigs in a month and no cut off, so that is plenty for ANYONE.
stop buying bottled water and drink tap, and you can afford the data plan.
i apologize for the rant.

Lol you don't know what you are talking about. Over here it costs me 20 euro extra per month so please stfu. And next time be nicer.. not all countries offer 3g almost for free!
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HectiQ said:
Lol you don't know what you are talking about. Over here it costs me 20 euro extra per month so please stfu. And next time be nicer.. not all countries offer 3g almost for free!
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i have to kinda agree with the data plan post, altho it wasnt nicely put he is kinda ryt, but also i agree with you, not everyone can afford the extra money and not evrywhere in the world has brillian 3g coverage but tbh if u dont hav a data plan then u dotn install chrome os simple as, and even if u did get it and dont have a data plan its not lik its a rom, leave it on your sd card then boot when your around wifi? i just thought itd b a nice idea to have a web browsing device that boots almost instantly, well atleast hopefully it wud. i know yeh im gna get comments lik "we do have web browsing devices just use the built in browser on android" or "use the hd2 winmo browser" but its just a question and an idea.
if anyone who reads this is interested and maybe wants to giv it a go at making chrome work on the hd2 then there are already some precompiled builds called chrome flow, search for it on google unless u alredi know what im talking about.

Just got pwnd by At&T-Mobile

Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access may be blocked unless you add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
followed by this within seconds of the first msg :
Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
I remember them talking about cracking down on people tethering without a tether plan
but didn't think it was possible

I didn't get that message
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Do you tether often? Or download a lot when you tether?
Maybe you're just one of those users that has exceeded what they consider "normal" and "average" usage.

How much data do you use a month?

Never download. but I'm sure it's being exceeded when I play starcraft II lol.
I did stream Netflix heavily and would get capped to edge after hitting 5gb+ but that was months ago. I never received messages or got regulated after I stopped up until today while I was browsing casually.

This crap should be illegal.
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I had heard that was going around, anyone know how they are doing it?
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I think they are randomly sending ppl messages. They sent my gf a message today saying about parental control for 4.99 so kids dont go over minutes or messages. We have 3 lines and all three have unlimited everything so message was pretty lame.
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resinous said:
Never download. but I'm sure it's being exceeded when I play starcraft II lol.
I did stream Netflix heavily and would get capped to edge after hitting 5gb+ but that was months ago. I never received messages or got regulated after I stopped up until today while I was browsing casually.
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That's probably how they busted you, not quite aware of any phone that can play Starcraft II, all they would need to know is the servers used for the game... might have just been excessive use I suppose.

played SCII while tethered from my phone to PC is what I meant. Not directly from my Nexus 1, lol.

resinous said:
played SCII while tethered from my phone to PC is what I meant. Not directly from my Nexus 1, lol.
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That's exactly what I meant, the only way you could do it would be through tethering...

resinous said:
Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access may be blocked unless you add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
followed by this within seconds of the first msg :
Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
I remember them talking about cracking down on people tethering without a tether plan
but didn't think it was possible
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Sent them an official letter asking them how they have come to this conclusion.
Have they been monitoring your traffic? If yes, did they have police permission to do so, and if yes on what grounds. Declare that you consider taking legal action against them for privacy concerns.

Yeah there have been rumors that they'll start charging for those they believe are tethering without permission.
The only way they can discover this is if they are sniffing/recording your packets, and this is a major privacy concern, as even secure (https) communication can be read if they record the keys in a packet stream.
All your bank info, and email, and any other service you use, via tethering or just on the phone is potentially at risk if they are snooping around to see if you're tethering.

Not really...
Your device broadcasts it's ID pretty much everywhere it goes. All they have to do is look for tablets going through their servers...
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danger-rat said:
Your device broadcasts it's ID pretty much everywhere it goes. All they have to do is look for tablets going through their servers...
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You're going to have to define what you mean, because being in Networking/IT for 8 years, I know what you're saying but they still have to sniff your packets.
I think they're going based on data amount, from what people are saying. Which is why my family has not gotten a notice.

I definitely abused the tethering privileges. I'm probably one of the select few to get this notice.

georgemv said:
Sent them an official letter asking them how they have come to this conclusion.
Have they been monitoring your traffic? If yes, did they have police permission to do so, and if yes on what grounds. Declare that you consider taking legal action against them for privacy concerns.
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But aren't you also breaking the rules since you're tethering without a tethering plan?

My concern isn't about tethering my concern is that they are spying on data itself to tell that you are tethering. I work for a company that uses https for web mail. And that's a major privacy concern since we handle sensitive data.
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flibbertigibbet007 said:
You're going to have to define what you mean, because being in Networking/IT for 8 years, I know what you're saying but they still have to sniff your packets.
I think they're going based on data amount, from what people are saying. Which is why my family has not gotten a notice.
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Well, from my limited knowledge, I believe that a service broadcasts certain information about itself in order to communicate effectively with other devices...
Hulu block android.
Web pages render for mobile devices.
When I log on to my bank from a new device, I have authenticate it (and it's not cookie based).
Digital fingerprints contain a ton of information that you, the user, make available to any service you interact with...
My guess is that the carrier looks at large data users, and scrutinizes the use. I would also say that the carrier is well within their rights to confirm that services using their network are authorized to do so?
Correct me if i'm wrong - it won't be the first time... xD
What I don't agree with is the fact that, if I pay for 5G of data, what the hell does it matter how I use it? If I tether my nook to download music it's wrong, but if I download it on my phone and transfer via SD that's OK? Just wierd to me...
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danger-rat said:
Hulu block android.
Web pages render for mobile devices.
When I log on to my bank from a new device, I have authenticate it (and it's not cookie based).
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+Hulu, can tell based on browser data that is sent over http. and I believe flash also provides data about what system you're on. (also they can tell by your public ip address what you're probably using their service from, like a cell phone)
+Webpages, also they get browser responces in headers over http. And redirect you to a mobile page. (eg. m.website.com)
+Bank accounts, I know exactly what you mean about this, they normally can tell from IP address only. But other than that it's cookie, and Mac address(probably from a java call?)
In my opinion, I believe it's going beyond the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 2000:
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju67343.000/hju67343_0.htm
But I don't know the full details of the act, I'm going on my understanding.
Of course I'm talking only about US Customers of ATandT.
Edit: So from what I've read, the privacy act would only not allow any information they can provide about how they know you're using tethering as evidence in a court case, so a lawsuit against them would ultimately win in the customers favor.

Webtop without tethering?

Hey guys sorry if this question has been answered but is there anyway to get the webtop to work without tethering? Thanks a lot guys.
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Read the damn sticked noob guide. There's a link to webtip hack :/
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Noob gets pwned by another noob.
This thread made my day.

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@vp294 's comment should be a thread in itself.
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Read the damn sticked noob guide. There's a link to webtip hack :/
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Noob gets pwned by another noob.
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You need an att tethering plan to use webtop.... I don't know what you are talking about. There is a reason why xda is becoming more and more irrelevant as time goes on and developers are choosing a different website. It's people like you guys who just need to one up other posters who are causing this. There are some great people on here, then there are you guys. That's the reason why the rootzwiki is becoming the new standard. Oh and I should sell my atrix cause I asked a question about webtop? That clearly means I have no idea what I'm doing right? That's a joke but thanks for the suggestion
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I have read that webtop should work when you are on wifi, but that's just what I've heard since I don't use it. If you're trying to use it while on AT&T's data network then, yes, you need tethering but there are tethering and webtop hacks galore in the "noob" thread that is stickied at the top of the "General" forum.
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You need an att tethering plan to use webtop.... I don't know what you are talking about. There is a reason why xda is becoming more and more irrelevant as time goes on and developers are choosing a different website. It's people like you guys who just need to one up other posters who are causing this. There are some great people on here, then there are you guys. That's the reason why the rootzwiki is becoming the new standard. Oh and I should sell my atrix cause I asked a question about webtop? That clearly means I have no idea what I'm doing right? That's a joke but thanks for the suggestion
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Also, try not to take anything personally. This is an internet forum, just let it roll off your back.

Just looked over the sticky and it has a link to a cwm installable webtop file that I already have. Nothing about disabling att from verifying the tethering plan required to use the webtop on 3G. Webtop works fine on wifi... And before gingerbread, there used to be a way to get it to work without a tethering plan. That is why I asked this "n00b" question that nobody seems to have an answer for.
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Have you tried the "Entitlement" mod (enabling tethering)? It should be the one right above or below the Webtop link.
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Just looked over the sticky and it has a link to a cwm installable webtop file that I already have. Nothing about disabling att from verifying the tethering plan required to use the webtop on 3G.
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No I haven't I will take a look. Thank you for actually trying to be helpful.
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No problem, hope you find something that works. Like I've said, I don't use it so I don't know what would actually work.
Also, like I've said, you can't take things personally on the internet, but if I can give some advice. Try to be more descriptive in your comments especially when starting an entire thread. Include things like what "mods" you have already used, and maybe include what ROM you're using and what resources you have already searched through for answers, you could even go as far as describing the steps you are using when encountering the issue. All of this helps the rest of us help you. Your original post "looks" like a "noob" question and that's like blood in the water for the sharks.
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No I haven't I will take a look. Thank you for actually trying to be helpful.
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OP asked a valid question and didn't deserve to be noob-bashed. I have the same issue. I have done the "entitlement" hack using the SQLLite Editor to set the "Entitlement Check" field to "0", and I am able to use my Atrix as a mobile hotspot without a tethering plan.
However, when I attempt to use Firefox on the Lapdock while connected via 3G (WiFi off), a popup appears saying "Verifying AT&T account status for webtop...". Then, after a few seconds, it fails and another dialog pops up saying "The Firefox browser requires a Wi-Fi connection or appropriate data plan. Please use Wi-Fi or call AT&T Customer Service at 1-800-331-0500 to add the appropriate data plan to your account"
Any help would be appreciated.

Try this and see if it works. Make sure you have done the entitlement hack and while connected to the webtop turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone and then go into your networks and choose the tether apn.
I tried something in that nature and was browsing firefox on my phones data. I'll try again in the morning and see if that's what I did.
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Question.
Is it considered tethering if instead of using the full browser firefox, that requires a tethering plan, to instead use a browser (such as Dolphin HD) INSIDE of the phone module app on the webtop... since it's actually using your phone's apps instead of firefox?
just a thought.

dmbrown81 said:
Try this and see if it works. Make sure you have done the entitlement hack and while connected to the webtop turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone and then go into your networks and choose the tether apn.
I tried something in that nature and was browsing firefox on my phones data. I'll try again in the morning and see if that's what I did.
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Thanks dmbrown81, that totally worked! I still get the nagging messages from the Webtop about needing a tethering plan, but if I just turn on WiFi Tethering while the phone is docked, Firefox will work fine! Brilliant!

davemao said:
Thanks dmbrown81, that totally worked! I still get the nagging messages from the Webtop about needing a tethering plan, but if I just turn on WiFi Tethering while the phone is docked, Firefox will work fine! Brilliant!
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You might try turning off the "Mot mobile device extensions" addon and see what happens.
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Question.
Is it considered tethering if instead of using the full browser firefox, that requires a tethering plan, to instead use a browser (such as Dolphin HD) INSIDE of the phone module app on the webtop... since it's actually using your phone's apps instead of firefox?
just a thought.
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Obviously that would never be detected, but ATT does consider it tethering. Total BS if you ask me, all the doc is is an external screen/keyboard/pad/battery, it is in no way a seperate system.

The odd thing is that while using a StarHub prepaid sim in Singapore on my unlocked ATT Atrix it doesn't do that check, only when I use my ATT sim.
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Thanks that solution works
Thanks everyone for suggesting the "hotspot" trip. I am curious as to why this needs to be done is we are using the entitlement hack. Does anyone know why this is or is the just the way to get around having to pay twice for data? Also, have you guys noticed a big hit in your battery life when using the hotspot tethering? I'm just happy that this solution works because I got the lapdock just for this reason.

There is something in the ATT firmware that recognizes when the phone is using an ATT sim and disables data connections to the webtop environment. The whole time I was in Singapore using a StarHub Green prepaid sim my phone never did that "Verifying account blablablah..." when I docked the phone in my LapDock, as soon as I docked it I could start using Firefox.
An interesting note: the phone disables all data connections for a moment when it does this check. I noticed it because Pandora died on me one day when I was listening and I docked my phone. I watched the connectivity arrows on the H+ icon the next time I docked my phone and they went away for a few seconds just as that toaster notification popped up. Even with the Entitlement Mod this happens.
Hotspot tethering will kill your battery life, although that battery life is augmented by the lapdock. I'm pretty sure you can turn tethering off once you've started up Firefox and are browsing away. Don't ask me how I know, a little bird told me.
No, using apps inside the phone view isn't considered tethering. You can use the stock browser inside there without doing anything. If att calls using a non-stock browser tethering, pitch a fit and tell them to piss up a rope.
And regarding my snark earlier: I think a lot of the people who have been here for a while get tired of seeing threads like "Can I haz root on my phone OMG I'm a noob" when we remember discussing the same subject multiple times in the past. I know this particular question has been asked and answered before. I found it ironic that you were being chided by someone who had < 10 posts.
tl;dr - non-ATT sims work without mods, ATT sim data connection gets disabled, this has been covered.