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Did Asus buy the farm on this one?

Have purchased about 5 Nook Colors, (2 refurbished)
Hacked the hell out of them, and never a hardware issue.
Asus used to build reliable stuff, but from all your various horror stories, it seems that this Nexus 7 is not one of them.

ganovim said:
Have purchased about 5 Nook Colors, (2 refurbished)
Hacked the hell out of them, and never a hardware issue.
Asus used to build reliable stuff, but from all your various horror stories, it seems that this Nexus 7 is not one of them.
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why am I here

it is most likely because production was rushed. the nexus 7 went from idea to production in about 4 months which is relatively quick.

BrianDigital said:
why am I here
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I hear ya. Another useless thread started by someone without an N7. Then again, if I owned 5 Nooks, i'd be bitter too.
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redundant409 said:
it is most likely because production was rushed. the nexus 7 went from idea to production in about 4 months which is relatively quick.
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4 Months? No. Over a year most likely. They shown it in CES 2011 back in January I believe under the name MeMO 370T which is what the Nexus 7 is.
Based off that, its been AT LEAST 9 months (but they had an actual functioning unit - so its been in development much longer).
The 4 month thing is a load of bull.

just lou said:
I hear ya. Another useless thread started by someone without an N7. Then again, if I owned 5 Nooks, i'd be bitter too.
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Most of the other Nooks were for friends you idiot.
And I am raising a legitimate concern about quality control over an item that I was going to purchase myself, and may still do so, but not while sending it back 3 times.

ganovim said:
Most of the other Nooks were for friends you idiot.
And I am raising a legitimate concern about quality control over an item that I was going to purchase myself, and may still do so, but not while sending it back 3 times.
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dont buy it

ganovim said:
Have purchased about 5 Nook Colors, (2 refurbished)
Hacked the hell out of them, and never a hardware issue.
Asus used to build reliable stuff, but from all your various horror stories, it seems that this Nexus 7 is not one of them.
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Not sure the Nook Color should be used as a case of high quality manufacturing. When they first came out they had quite a few problems too. Very creaky bezels, power buttons that would come loose, and some other issues. I had to return my Nook Color three times before I got one that wasn't messed up in some fashion.
Don't think it had any issues as wide spread as the raised glass with the Nexus 7 is. But it didn't seem like a smooth launch either.
Of course if you bought your 5 Nook Colors later after all the hiccups were corrected, they would probably be perfect. I suspect if you were to buy 5 Nexus 7s a bit later they'll probably all be perfect too.
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PS. I have a Nook Color I'll trade for a Nexus 7 by the way.

ganovim said:
Most of the other Nooks were for friends you idiot.
And I am raising a legitimate concern about quality control over an item that I was going to purchase myself, and may still do so, but not while sending it back 3 times.
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Aww. You mad bro?
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Nook had way more problem the nexus 7. I went through a ton before finally just settling on good enough. Ended up selling because it was too slow.
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Obviously the people that have had issues are in the minority. Considering that this forum is very popular you will see lots of people coming on to complain that are in that minority.
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ganovim said:
Have purchased about 5 Nook Colors, (2 refurbished)
Hacked the hell out of them, and never a hardware issue.
Asus used to build reliable stuff, but from all your various horror stories, it seems that this Nexus 7 is not one of them.
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You do understand the concept that somehere like XDA you hear a disproportionate amount of problems, for every person posting here with a problem, there are 100,000 consumers without a problem just USING their tablet.
If you have trouble understanding this simple concept, ask a grown up.

145ty said:
4 Months? No. Over a year most likely. They shown it in CES 2011 back in January I believe under the name MeMO 370T which is what the Nexus 7 is.
Based off that, its been AT LEAST 9 months (but they had an actual functioning unit - so its been in development much longer).
The 4 month thing is a load of bull.
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That was a totally different unit. You have to realize that not everything that hits tech conferences go into production. Google came to Asus I January 2012 it was released in June.
Current devices:
Asus Nexus 7
HTC Sensation 4G
T-Mobile mytouch 3G (HTC Magic) [DISCONTINUED]
When you realize your on xda like it's a full time job.

CrazyPeter said:
You do understand the concept that somehere like XDA you hear a disproportionate amount of problems, for every person posting here with a problem, there are 100,000 consumers without a problem just USING their tablet.
If you have trouble understanding this simple concept, ask a grown up.
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And I guess you talked to them all you moron

Trolls make the best anglers, they always get a bite. Well done but time to go back under your bridge now.

People always say MOST people's N7's are just fine but it seems whenever there is a problem I always seem to be affected! Although I had the screen lift but tightening the screws fixed it for me. So I would say Asus QC is lower especially at the 200 dollar price point, but not that bad.

BrianDigital said:
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So you can hit this thread with a 1 star rate, why else?

Nexus 4 quality prediction from a Nexus 7 owner POV

As you all must have read about the Nexus 4 with everything latest and greatest and also the lowest possible price 299$ what do you guys think the hardware built quality will be like? I really love my N7 and am totally happy with it but the several issues which can be read on this forum especially not to mention the screen lift and maybe touch screen dead spots for many people is no secret. So seeing the price of N4 what do you guys think the product will be like?

jshashwat93 said:
As you all must have read about the Nexus 4 with everything latest and greatest and also the lowest possible price 299$ what do you guys think the hardware built quality will be like? I really love my N7 and am totally happy with it but the several issues which can be read on this forum especially not to mention the screen lift and maybe touch screen dead spots for many people is no secret. So seeing the price of N4 what do you guys think the product will be like?
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a little bit better than n7 but i dont think it would have a nice build quality since the price is crazily low for the spec

I'm very interested in the N4 but I will definitely be waiting to see if there are any build issues before I buy. No per orders for me.
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So you are asking if the Nexus 4, which is a different product, from a different manufacturer, designed by a different team, using different materials, built in a different factory that only shares part of it's name with the Nexus 7, will have the same issues.
Do you know how crazy that question is?
Do you also understand the concept of scale? The Nexus 7 has sold multiple millions of units, what percentage do you think have been returned defective? 1%? - more like 0.01%

From what I've seen, LG has built some really solid Android devices. The problem with them is their software, which is really some of the worst OEM stuff. However, since it's a Nexus device with pure AOSP, I think there's a really good chance it could be great.

CrazyPeter said:
So you are asking if the Nexus 4, which is a different product, from a different manufacturer, designed by a different team, using different materials, built in a different factory that only shares part of it's name with the Nexus 7, will have the same issues.
Do you know how crazy that question is?
Do you also understand the concept of scale? The Nexus 7 has sold multiple millions of units, what percentage do you think have been returned defective? 1%? - more like 0.01%
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It's not a crazy question by any stretch. The fact the it has a nexus branding means it has to be approved by Google. If Google did not have a problem approving the N7 inspite of the faults just for the objective of keeping the price low why would they not do the same for LG? Unless you are suggesting LG has some magic formula for manufacturing high quality products at even a lower cost. And I know 10 people with the N7 and they all have the screen lift issue including me. So if you are telling me I can return my N7 and get it exchanged for a proper one please tell me the procedure to do so. And If you meant I should return it because of the defect then please read my first post where I mentioned I am really happy with my N7. So your 0.01% logic is a fail.

CrazyPeter said:
So you are asking if the Nexus 4, which is a different product, from a different manufacturer, designed by a different team, using different materials, built in a different factory that only shares part of it's name with the Nexus 7, will have the same issues.
Do you know how crazy that question is?
Do you also understand the concept of scale? The Nexus 7 has sold multiple millions of units, what percentage do you think have been returned defective? 1%? - more like 0.01%
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This.

jshashwat93 said:
It's not a crazy question by any stretch. The fact the it has a nexus branding means it has to be approved by Google. If Google did not have a problem approving the N7 inspite of the faults just for the objective of keeping the price low why would they not do the same for LG? Unless you are suggesting LG has some magic formula for manufacturing high quality products at even a lower cost. And I know 10 people with the N7 and they all have the screen lift issue including me. So if you are telling me I can return my N7 and get it exchanged for a proper one please tell me the procedure to do so. And If you meant I should return it because of the defect then please read my first post where I mentioned I am really happy with my N7. So your 0.01% logic is a fail.
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ynrozturk said:
This.
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This

Optimus G is supposedly beautiful and my previous LG phone, the G2x, had great hardware as well.
LG knows hardware, so build quality should be great.

Nospin said:
Optimus G is supposedly beautiful and my previous LG phone, the G2x, had great hardware as well.
LG knows hardware, so build quality should be great.
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Not used Transformer Pads but I have heard they are great too

Seems like a nice phone, but it comes without LTE, only the ATT pseudo 4g.

Groid said:
Seems like a nice phone, but it comes without LTE, only the ATT pseudo 4g.
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True, but HSPA+ is fast enough for most people out there. In fact, I get more headaches dealing with the LTE to HSPA+ handoffs. I'm really considering this for my next device.

CrazyPeter said:
The Nexus 7 has sold multiple millions of units, what percentage do you think have been returned defective? 1%? - more like 0.01%
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If the figures HERE are any indication then your figures are way out.
I think a LOT more devices are defective but as Google / Asus will never admit it, we'll never know.
LG or Lucky Goldstar as they once were make decent kit so fingers crossed.
Like the poster above, I'll not be making a pre order but I will be buying an N4 rather than an N7 with 3G

lg>asus, although nexus 4 will come out with 32gb near early next year

jshashwat93 said:
This
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I see what you tried to do there.
Key word; tried.

AznDud333 said:
lg>asus, although nexus 4 will come out with 32gb near early next year
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That's a given. 64GB with LTE later in the year.
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ynrozturk said:
I see what you tried to do there.
Key word; tried.
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Lol I was thinking the same thing. Didn't plan it that way but liked the results

Buy or not?

So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...

ReapersDeath said:
So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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Ya can read around here. Like most devices there are a few issues but IMO there are no deal breakers. All in all I think most users here, myself included are very happy with this. I have the 32 GB 3g BTW
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ReapersDeath said:
Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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Well, I can say 100% that I would rather have my Nexus 7 than an electric Fireplace space heater
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Because you don't live in Alaska....:sly:
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ReapersDeath said:
So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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I love my nexus 7, its the most up to date google software device running jelly bean. Its pretty smooth on stock software, i SUGGEST the 32gb model, i have it and it was 269$ total that was with ny 8% sales tax. They are selling it pretty cheap it take them about 180$ to make it and they sell it for not much of a profit. THIS IS PURELY GOOGLE software. No ASUS overlay like cellphones or anything. Its great it and the BEST tablet for the money.
Cons: No rear camera, no external SD slot, on stock software you cannot view landscape mode on homescreen and do not purchase from gamestop have not heard good things as in LCD problems and such. I suggest staples, walmart, or playstore.
Hope this helps!

I don't know how old your dad is but I am 66 and I freaking love mine.
Got mine from Google on pre order...unlocked and rooted the first day and haven't looked back!!!
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hambino3 said:
I love my nexus 7, its the most up to date google software device running jelly bean. Its pretty smooth on stock software, i SUGGEST the 32gb model, i have it and it was 269$ total that was with ny 8% sales tax. They are selling it pretty cheap it take them about 180$ to make it and they sell it for not much of a profit. THIS IS PURELY GOOGLE software. No ASUS overlay like cellphones or anything. Its great it and the BEST tablet for the money.
Cons: No rear camera, no external SD slot, on stock software you cannot view landscape mode on homescreen and do not purchase from gamestop have not heard good things as in LCD problems and such. I suggest staples, walmart, or playstore.
Hope this helps!
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The last update gave landscape mode on stock homescreen
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I vote for the Nexus. I've had mine since November and haven't had any problems with it. It's a great value, I did a lot of research before buying mine and found it to be the best 7 inch tablet.
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Buy it, you'll have no regrets. I'm sure your dad will love it, just like we love our N7 devices. It's one of the best tablets on the market.

Honestly, I think the N7 is just about the best $200 you can spend as far as technology goes.
Mine is basically defect-free. That hardware is really nice. It's a convenient size, great for reading, email and web-browsing.
However, only you know your dad. If you think he'd like a tablet, the N7 is definitely a great one!

I found this to be ironic since I bought an electric fireplace heater AND nexus 7 recently
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For my dad I would go with the heater, because he's not into these types of toys. But like someone said, only you know your dad, and the fact your considering getting him one speaks volumes, so as an opinion I say go for it. My 32GB was the best $260 I've spent in a long time.
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yes i agree !! Its worth buying

giffy89 said:
yes i agree !! Its worth buying
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I don't know your dad's age but I did something similar I'll describe below.
My step-dad is 61. He's never been real big on technology, he likes using it, for example he's a movie buff and loves home theater stuff, but he really doesn't care at all to know how it works or why it works. He's the kind of person who mysteriously ends up with the strangest toolbars ever on his computer when all he was trying to do was type something in notepad.
When he saw my first tablet, which was when the ipad launched originally, he fell in love with having a big screen and touch interface. So I got him one for Christmas and half expected him to use it for a little while and get frustrated or bored and shelve it longterm. But to my surprise he took to it with no problems and lived on it.
Fast forward a few years to the Nexus 7 launch. A few weeks after the Nexus 7 launched (I bought at staples before the pre order fiasco prior to launch day) he had surgery, heart surgery actually. He had some minor complications and ended up staying in the ICU a few weeks instead of a few days. There was no TV where he was.
His surgeon really stressed to us that he couldn't be working from the ICU, so his own ipad was out of the question. I went and bought a case for the Nexus 7 and then loaned it to him in the hospital. He usually likes big screens and large print, but he says the 7 inch screen is perfect for him and he really liked the Jelly Bean OS and interface a lot. Now he's begging for his own Nexus 7 after using those for a few weeks.
When I'm caught up financially I will buying him a Nexus 7 for sure. Even for a "bull in a china shop" type person who's not a techie, the Nexus 7 is one of the best overall devices I think you could give as a gift. The tablet and jellybean just work, and work great, and it's not much of a learning curve.

Just buy it. It's a greatest device for its money with powerful cpu+gpu plus the grate service support (hope you never needed). The only bad thing is that the glass is not gorilla glass but just Corning class so you must be gentle with the screen.
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Dearth of Accessories is Maddening

Am I the only one frustrated with Google's incompetence with flagship product launches, like the N4. How do you launch a flagship product with only one accessory (the bumper), which ends up being out of stock longer than not?
It's also been months since the N4 was released, and yet the accessory choices are still majorly lacking.
They really need to take a page out of Apple's launch strategy.
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djbutter said:
Am I the only one frustrated with Google's incompetence with flagship product launches, like the N4. How do you launch a flagship product with only one accessory (the bumper), which ends up being out of stock longer than not?
It's also been months since the N4 was released, and yet the accessory choices are still majorly lacking.
They really need to take a page out of Apple's launch strategy.
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get over it. the Nexus 7 was released how long ago? and the only thing available is a case. no dock, no nothing. new nexus owners are,

smirkis said:
get over it. the Nexus 7 was released how long ago? and the only thing available is a case. no dock, no nothing. new nexus owners are,
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There is actually a dock. http://www.droid-life.com/2013/01/16/nexus-7-dock-now-available-through-select-retailers/ Not sold through Play Store but retail stores. It's a official accessory.
@OP: You are aware that it isn't only LG/Google who is supposed to supply the accessories right? What about the other major accessories companies such as Case-Mate, Otterbox? They have to step it up too.

thanks, i kept checking b&h photo. gonna order one now lol

smirkis said:
thanks captain... but it's far from on sale, the date keeps getting pushed back and should be on sale tomorrow. but again, how long has the nexus7 been out for? it's just an example. official products are great, but nothing to get worked up about for not being available.
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It's still out there regardless. Doesn't matter on it's availability, if it's out there, it's out there.

I agree. I'm referring to accessories in general, not just first-party ones.
At launch or very soon after the launch of a new Apple product, accessory choices are abundant.
And why should I get over it? The Nexus 7 should also have more options, especially due to its success. Why should you have to scour the internet searching for ONE accessory in existence, instead of having *many* available at a local store?
I really envy this about Apple products. They get all the quality and choice in accessories.
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djbutter said:
I agree. I'm referring to accessories in general, not just first-party ones.
At launch or very soon after the launch of a new Apple product, accessory choices are abundant.......
I really envy this about Apple products. They get all the quality and choice in accessories.
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Perhaps that is due to there being only 1 choice in phone if you want iOS. There are about a million different android phones out. It's an easy decision for an accessory company as to which one to spend money to develop.
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If the nexus 4 were to have a launch accross the world/carriers like the iPhone and market it just as big... accessories will be plenty. Google is still building the Nexus brand. This might not happen for the N4 but future nexus devices will surely have more attention, accessories, and support.
Also, you have to consider that there werent enough N4 to go around to consumers who watch the Play Store like hawks, let alone companies who have other phone accessories to worry about.

The OP's ignorance is astounding.

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If the nexus 4 were to have a launch accross the world/carriers like the iPhone and market it just as big... accessories will be plenty. Google is still building the Nexus brand. This might not happen for the N4 but future nexus devices will surely have more attention, accessories, and support.
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This is true. See the Galaxy S3. Accessories galore.
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third party companies aren't going to invest money into accessories for a phone that many people do not own. I don't even think there's a million units of Nexus 4s sold yet. It sucks but that's just kind of how it is.

Did u buy the phone for the accessories or did u buy it for the phone? If u bought it for accessories, then u should've bought something else..
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[gauging interest] sgp bumper

Is there anyone here who would be interested in a bumper made by SGP? I know I would! I think if we can get our voices heard on their FB page and they feel there is enough demand we can get them to make one!
go to their Facebook page and leave a comment! I would really like to make this happen as the LG and poetic bumpers are just not enough....

Yea I left a post for a bumper
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I sent them an email and a tweet enquiring about an anti-glare screen protector for the Nexus 4. Not even an acknowledgement let alone a reply. Don't really appreciate their customer service even though they have quality products.
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I'd be interested if they would make one that would be similar to the Ringke Hybrid Fusion (ie clear back in addition to the edge-protecting bumper), but I really can't see any other style worthwhile. It is amazing there aren't more similar models; clearly the back of the Nexus needs some sort of protection against minor impact and there are many who don't want to add bulk or change the aesthetic.
That said, I wrote to SCP to ask them to bring the Glas.TR high end glass screen protector to the Nexus 4. They replied, but basically shot down the idea. I'm so bloody sick of how many of the high-end accessories are only available for the iPhone! I'd like to see Glas.TR brought over to compare it to the XGear and Clarivue glass protectors (with a high-end film protector included for the back) more than a bumper, but it doesn't seem this company is very receptive to our requests so far. Still, worth it to keep trying!

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I'd be interested if they would make one that would be similar to the Ringke Hybrid Fusion (ie clear back in addition to the edge-protecting bumper), but I really can't see any other style worthwhile. It is amazing there aren't more similar models; clearly the back of the Nexus needs some sort of protection against minor impact and there are many who don't want to add bulk or change the aesthetic.
That said, I wrote to SCP to ask them to bring the Glas.TR high end glass screen protector to the Nexus 4. They replied, but basically shot down the idea. I'm so bloody sick of how many of the high-end accessories are only available for the iPhone! I'd like to see Glas.TR brought over to compare it to the XGear and Clarivue glass protectors (with a high-end film protector included for the back) more than a bumper, but it doesn't seem this company is very receptive to our requests so far. Still, worth it to keep trying!
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I think they will acknowledge the request as long as we can prove that there's a demand for it. That's why we should write on the fb page so we can get heard. If they only get one person asking for it they're not going to produce it as it's not worth their time to make something just for one person (or at least in their mind it's only for one person). I'm sick of all the iPhone support as well. Even the GSII and GSIII got way more accessories by SGP. All we have so far is one measly case by them.

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I think they will acknowledge the request as long as we can prove that there's a demand for it. That's why we should write on the fb page so we can get heard. If they only get one person asking for it they're not going to produce it as it's not worth their time to make something just for one person (or at least in their mind it's only for one person). I'm sick of all the iPhone support as well. Even the GSII and GSIII got way more accessories by SGP. All we have so far is one measly case by them.
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To be fair, both the iPhone and Galaxy series ARE considerably more popular, actually available across all carriers, and can actually be seen being used by people. There's already a feeling of huge pent up demand for the Galaxy S4. Seeing a Nexus phone in real life is still rare as a blue moon. Case makers have to skate where the puck goes...but yes I'd love to see some of the more unique and exotic type cases SGP makes for the iPhone brought over to the Nexus 4, not this generic bland stuff that can be found with any Chinese seller on Ebay.

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To be fair, both the iPhone and Galaxy series ARE considerably more popular, actually available across all carriers, and can actually be seen being used by people. There's already a feeling of huge pent up demand for the Galaxy S4. Seeing a Nexus phone in real life is still rare as a blue moon. Case makers have to skate where the puck goes...but yes I'd love to see some of the more unique and exotic type cases SGP makes for the iPhone brought over to the Nexus 4, not this generic bland stuff that can be found with any Chinese seller on Ebay.
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Yes I understand that's the reason why they get more support. I knew that. SGP is just going where the money is just like any other case maker would but they will make a case for a phone if they know there's a demand for it. We just have to prove it.

it's kinda late to be asking companies to make cases for the phone we going to get a new nexus in 5-6 months. i think if companies waited this long then they are not going to start making them now. Has any of these petitions worked for the nexus 4? i see so many of these threads but none with any real results.

neotekz said:
it's kinda late to be asking companies to make cases for the phone we going to get a new nexus in 5-6 months. i think if companies waited this long then they are not going to start making them now. Has any of these petitions worked for the nexus 4? i see so many of these threads but none with any real results.
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the next Nexus won't be till Nov/Dec. That's more than 5 to 6 months away. Whether it works or not it's better to try than not try.

kcbboy said:
the next Nexus won't be till Nov/Dec. That's more than 5 to 6 months away. Whether it works or not it's better to try than not try.
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i must of been thinking about how long since the phone has been out but i dont agree that it's better to try. If companies like sgp and otterbox dont make cases for the nexus then ill buy it somewhere else, it's their lost not mine. I had the sgp hydrid for my galaxy nexus and imo it is not better than my poetic(didnt have any of the peeling issues people reported) and have a LG bumper on the way. these petitions never work anyways so you are just wasting time. Petition with your wallet instead of facebook. I've stop buying any otterbox cases since they tend to focus mostly on the iphone(their iphone case is always nicer than any android version) and now i wont buy from sgp again either.