Nfc? - One (M7) General

Hey will htc one have same feature like nfc transfer like photos music videos and stuff same like sgs 3
Edit:sbeam like feature?
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Amritttt said:
Hey will htc one have same feature like nfc transfer like photos music videos and stuff same like sgs 3
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Wow, how does that work?
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Wow, how does that work?
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Read the question carefully. GS3 has better NFC functionally than the One X. I'm assuming the question is asking if the video/photo transfers have been implemented. Catching up with S-beam
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I did read the question carefully, i was under the impression you could share photos and music etc on the One X, it's a feature i haven't used on mine, and i didn't know the file type was limited.

craftycarper1 said:
I did read the question carefully, i was under the impression you could share photos and music etc on the One X, it's a feature i haven't used on mine, and i didn't know the file type was limited.
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The NFC functionality is exactly the same. What Samsung did with S-Beam was create a hybrid NFC/WiFi Direct service which uses NFC for paring and then creates an instant WiFi Direct socket between the two devices for a high-speed file transfer.
HTC could have done the same, but for some reason almost all manufacturer's who had WiDi in their ICS launching devices (HTC and ASUS included) decided to drop/de-emphasize it in Jelly Bean 4.1 only to have to scramble to include it back in when GOOGle made MiracastWiDi support a hallmark feature of Jelly Bean 4.2.

Let's emphasize this..
First, Google introduce preliminary NFC functionality on ICS like contacts, URLs, and etc. Apps can always implement their own NFC support to communicating/bring new functionalities. Else if they doesn't, you will end up being open up the playstore link on receivers phone.
Keep in minds that NFC bandwidth is very tiny and much worser than bluetooth. Sammy came up with their proprietary idea/solution S-Beam utilizing NFC to hook up Wifi-Direct on their phones. On that time S-Beam only works on their newer lines up starting from GS3. Later OTA Updates should bring it to older devices that has NFC chip.
Later on JellyBean Google introduced their solution for file transfering(photo and video). It work in very similiar way compare to what sammy done but they hook up bluetooth instead. Using android beam to transfer files will be much slower than S-Beam. However, it bring better compatibility[almost all phones has bluetooth] and works across all Android phones that running on JellyBean.
Conclusion, no S-Beam on Android Phone other than Samsung premium lines up.

It has NFC built in but because of the aluminum body you have to smack your camera lens to transfer. Let's hope that doesn't scratch up the camera module area too badly.

Tomatoes8 said:
It has NFC built in but because of the aluminum body you have to smack your camera lens to transfer. Let's hope that doesn't scratch up the camera module area too badly.
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Can't see it being a problem
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craftycarper1 said:
Can't see it being a problem
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Anyone else notice the gap in that picture lol
But to HebeGuess that statement is slight wrong. Every phone has WIFI and BT. The reason that Google used BT instead of WIFI is because WIFI direct is not on every phone. Some manufactures leave it out so Google went with BT. Now if I'm not mistaken Google has put WIFI direct into 4.2.2 but you must enable it as the default transfer(again I believe I read that somewhere but not entirely sure)

reddragon72 said:
Anyone else notice the gap in that picture lol
But to HebeGuess that statement is slight wrong. Every phone has WIFI and BT. The reason that Google used BT instead of WIFI is because WIFI direct is not on every phone. Some manufactures leave it out so Google went with BT. Now if I'm not mistaken Google has put WIFI direct into 4.2.2 but you must enable it as the default transfer(again I believe I read that somewhere but not entirely sure)
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HTC phones always have gaps, their clearance is never tight enough, especially on the Sim trays and around the camera module. That is why their build quality is totally overrated.

Tomatoes8 said:
HTC phones always have gaps, their clearance is never tight enough, especially on the Sim trays and around the camera module. That is why their build quality is totally overrated.
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and you are a worthless forum troll whose only happiness in your pathetic life comes from irritating users in htc phone subforums

Tomatoes8 said:
HTC phones always have gaps, their clearance is never tight enough, especially on the Sim trays and around the camera module. That is why their build quality is totally overrated.
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It was really meant as a funny note. I was not being serious and all manufactures have crappy build quality. All my Sammy phones and Motorola Matrix squeaked badly. Only the HTC Evo 4G didn't squeak LOL

Tomatoes8 said:
HTC phones always have gaps, their clearance is never tight enough, especially on the Sim trays and around the camera module. That is why their build quality is totally overrated.
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Wow! You're back from forum suspension! And yeah back from trolling again... Now HTC forum is gonna heat up again.

reddragon72 said:
Anyone else notice the gap in that picture lol
But to HebeGuess that statement is slight wrong. Every phone has WIFI and BT. The reason that Google used BT instead of WIFI is because WIFI direct is not on every phone. Some manufactures leave it out so Google went with BT. Now if I'm not mistaken Google has put WIFI direct into 4.2.2 but you must enable it as the default transfer(again I believe I read that somewhere but not entirely sure)
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Actually I know about it, just opt for not mentioning it and this is also the reason I used "better compatibility". Galaxy Nexus, Samsung GS3 and my current device HTC One X was among the few phones that has WiFi-Direct support. Not so sure that if WiFi-Direct need extra special module inside modem or not, but certainly if you wanna commercial it you need to certified your devices first. Haiz...
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Riyal said:
Wow! You're back from forum suspension! And yeah back from trolling again... Now HTC forum is gonna heat up again.
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He doesn't realize he is criticizing *the world first unibody* phone has gap...
The front panel (speakers areas and display) was fit in, thus they may has *gap*...
So, they simply become unforgiven gap according to his opinion despite the fact HTC One was already having least possible gap compared to any others..

reddragon72 said:
It was really meant as a funny note. I was not being serious and all manufactures have crappy build quality. All my Sammy phones and Motorola Matrix squeaked badly. Only the HTC Evo 4G didn't squeak LOL
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I never had a Samsung phone that squeaked. I only had a GS3 and a GS2 though. All my HTC phones had problems. From gaps to rattling volume rockers to you name it. I currently have an 8x and used to have another 8x and two One X devices I had to return or exchange.
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Actually I know about it, just opt for not mentioning it and this is also the reason I used "better compatibility". Galaxy Nexus, Samsung GS3 and my current device HTC One X was among the few phones that has WiFi-Direct support. Not so sure that if WiFi-Direct need extra special module inside modem or not, but certainly if you wanna commercial it you need to certified your devices first. Haiz...
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He doesn't realize he is criticizing *the world first unibody* phone has gap...
The front panel (speakers areas and display) was fit in, thus they may has *gap*...
So, they simply become unforgiven gap according to his opinion despite the fact HTC One was already having least possible gap compared to any others..
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Actually, the clearance on the iPhone and Galaxy series is pretty good. They seem to have strict standards and those phones don't have gaps. HTC phones, unibody or not, have pretty poor clearance standards and unfortunately the HTC One appears to be a victim of this as well. The HTC One is FAR from the most gap less design although you seem to fall for their marketing term.

Tomatoes8 said:
I never had a Samsung phone that squeaked. I only had a GS3 and a GS2 though. All my HTC phones had problems. From gaps to rattling volume rockers to you name it. I currently have an 8x and used to have another 8x and two One X devices I had to return or exchange.
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Actually, the clearance on the iPhone and Galaxy series is pretty good. They seem to have strict standards and those phones don't have gaps. HTC phones, unibody or not, have pretty poor clearance standards and unfortunately the HTC One appears to be a victim of this as well. The HTC One is FAR from the most gap less design although you seem to fall for their marketing term.
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FFS man, we get that you've had problems with your HTC devices, and no problems with your Samsung devices, do you really need to preach your views all over this forum?
I personally have had no problems with my HTC devices, so i have no problem choosing another one.
Get a F*****g grip man.
PS, sorry for feeding the Troll, but this guy is really starting to get on my Tits moobs.

HebeGuess said:
Actually I know about it, just opt for not mentioning it and this is also the reason I used "better compatibility". Galaxy Nexus, Samsung GS3 and my current device HTC One X was among the few phones that has WiFi-Direct support. Not so sure that if WiFi-Direct need extra special module inside modem or not, but certainly if you wanna commercial it you need to certified your devices first. Haiz...
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All phones have the ability to Ad-hoc a network, but NFC needs to be in place and needs to be able to tell the WIFI to come to life and look for an Ad-hoc network with a specific name that the NFC module makes up randomly and transmits to the other device. It's all quite complicatedly easy lol

craftycarper1 said:
FFS man, we get that you've had problems with your HTC devices, and no problems with your Samsung devices, do you really need to preach your views all over this forum?
I personally have had no problems with my HTC devices, so i have no problem choosing another one.
Get a F*****g grip man.
PS, sorry for feeding the Troll, but this guy is really starting to get on my Tits moobs.
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Hey, I wasn't the one who claimed that the HTC One had the least gaps out of any phone like he/she did. I am just pointing out that he/she is wrong and fell for the HTC "gapless" design marketing gimmick hook line and sinker. If you don't like it, then ignore me. If someone makes crap up like that I will reply. Simple.

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Opinions on HTC Desire Z/G2

I'm looking to buy a Desire Z as a gift, and wanted to get some second opinions on the phone. Is the keyboard decent? What's the speed like? How sturdy is the keyboard hinge?
Also, is it fairly easy to root?
I've got an original Desire myself so if it's a roughly similar experience to that but with a keyboard then that'll be good.
Cheers
It's a great phone, 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205 GPU...but it is also fairly late in it's life. The keyboard is great, and while people have differing opinions on the hinge, I haven't had any problems.
Just know that it doesn't hold a candle to the 1GB Ram/Dual Core beasts being released today.
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The hinge problem has been previously blown up, it is fine.
I couldn't imagine living and typing longer than an sms without a keyboard, I still love it and use it for longer input. If I was buying a phone now I probably could sacrifice the keyboard for a front camera or more CPU power or so. I could even buy a Desire S or a Sensation (just to be in this pricerange). Phones change quickly, quadband is here, I still love this phone.
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in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now rooting isn´t that easy, but not very hard too (if you know how to use adb, you are fine) If you are on 2.3+ it could happen that you need to create a goldcard while rooting...
...what rather concerns me right now is the fact that a lot of people seem to have a problem with a fried emmc chip.
here is a link to the wiki-guide for rooting (so you see how its done):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.
h0kum said:
Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.
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You won't regret it! Great phone with great devs taking care of it
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Like everyone said is great options is not a bad phone every 3d games or apps i like is here. U can use hulu plus and netflix. Adobe flash player 11.
Gameloft hd games
Glu hd games
And other what not to like about this phone? lol
does hd recording 720 p.
It have best keyboard after g1.
in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now
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I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!
WTF? said:
I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!
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An iPhone
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fade2black101 said:
An iPhone
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Ahah u can't be serious because the iphail contains none of the above..
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I concur, there is nothing else out there I could see me replacing it with at the moment. I need a hardware keyboard.. More ram and a faster CPU would be handy though... Refreshed DZ required
Great phone, and i will use this as long as it works. I'v had this about little over 11months now, no problems. Only thing is, screen has one frozen pixel in it, tough it's on the side, close to a corner so i barely even notice it, if i look for it, i can see it.
There is Motorola Droid 4 coming, sure looks nice whit that 5-row qwerty. If i would have waited a year longer to upgrade to smartphone world, id get it when it comes.
Now i'm planing on getting a tablet, to get the horsepower going on android. possibly transformer prime, or smth, wonder what CES brings to the table.
I love this phone! Sorry i got drifted to little off topic here.
I won't get another phone until there is a worthy successor. I would like to stick with HTC and I need a qwerty KB (well strongly prefer to have one) so here is hoping for a G3 sometime soon.
Until then though I still get great performance so no immediate rush.
There was also a Samsung qwerty slider I was reading about a while back, can't seem to find the article anymore.
Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
fredcorp6 said:
Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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spec: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_captivate_glide-4071.php
look awesome tho. its like galaxy s2+keyboard
hopefully Q1 2012..
Dell Hancock.
Google it.
ewww iphone unless u want to be locked. Even with android without rooting u still will not be lock as you are with iphone.
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I agree with flinny if they can refresh desire z 2 aka htc t-mobile g3 with stock in usa. I would love to have front face camera,1gb of ram i hate using my mirror to video chat. Get amoled screen back like nexus one. Add the hardware 5 key rows they had on g1 to g3 .
Hopefully stop selling to many damn Htc phone their selling about 10-15 device every year i wish they can stay with 3-5. Limited their work because then they make users like me hack my phone to get update, that they should be doing themselves. Instead of making excuses on why they cant update 1 device to the other.
fredcorp6 said:
Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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Looked very interesting to me at first, but reviews have been far from stellar:
[URL="http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-captivate-glide-at/4505-6452_7-35033579.html?tag=mncol;rvwBody#reviewPage1"]http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/20/review-samsung-captivate-glide-att/[/URL]
Looks like cheap exterior build quality, and crappy flat keyboard. Nice screen, but hardware specs are merely ok compared to other high end phones currently being released. A Galaxy IIS spec phone with decent keyboard would be killer. But this ain't that.
Can't any manufacturers come out with a high-spec phone, with a decent keyboard?

What Samsung is doing: Nokia offers $100 rebate for Lumia 900 software bug

I love my SGN like anything but issue with black background is too much and it seems Samsung is not even bother to have a word about it which is effecting almost all SGN devices.
Samsung is not just letting down it's reputation but somewhere it also effect way things being handled in Android world.
what problem are you talking about? My Note is running flawlessly without any problem and I think the majority of us have a perfectly working device. Maybe you have a faulty device??
Final5k said:
what problem are you talking about? My Note is running flawlessly without any problem and I think the majority of us have a perfectly working device. Maybe you have a faulty device??
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well then you might be unaware of the issue yet. check the below post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430847
it is basically color rendering issue when seeing video having black background in dark room (few other related issues with black background as well).
99% of people who look for a problem will find it..even if they did not previously know such a problem exists.
I have no expectation that the SGN is color accurate.. No phone i ever have had has been, or ever will be, nor is any computer monitor for that matter.
I think the SGN is more than perfectly acceptable for its intended purpose.
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well then you might be unaware of the issue yet. check the below post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430847
it is basically color rendering issue when seeing video having black background in dark room (few other related issues with black background as well).
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Mystic38 said:
99% of people who look for a problem will find it..even if they did not previously know such a problem exists.
I have no expectation that the SGN is color accurate.. No phone i ever have had has been, or ever will be, nor is any computer monitor for that matter.
I think the SGN is more than perfectly acceptable for its intended purpose.
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Bingo. If these folks want those $10k+ 21" monitors for color accuracy....I'm sure they can go buy one and stick it to their ear.
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Bingo. If these folks want those $10k+ 21" monitors for color accuracy....I'm sure they can go buy one and stick it to their ear.
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I don't know but there are far too much people complaining about small things about the Note these past weeks and this is becoming quite annoying! Each time I come to the "General" part of this forum, there seems to be always someone bringing up something every week.....I mean, how picky can someone be with a phone? It is working correctly right? Games/Movies/Camera/Internet/Musics are playing correctly? So, what's the reason to complain and to create a NEW post for something we already know??
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I don't know but there are far too much people complaining about small things about the Note these past weeks and this is becoming quite annoying! Each time I come to the "General" part of this forum, there seems to be always someone bringing up something every week.....I mean, how picky can someone be with a phone? It is working correctly right? Games/Movies/Camera/Internet/Musics are playing correctly? So, what's the reason to complain and to create a NEW post for something we already know??
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Because everyone thinks they are special and the search function does not deserve their presence.
Final5k said:
I don't know but there are far too much people complaining about small things about the Note these past weeks and this is becoming quite annoying! Each time I come to the "General" part of this forum, there seems to be always someone bringing up something every week.....I mean, how picky can someone be with a phone? It is working correctly right? Games/Movies/Camera/Internet/Musics are playing correctly? So, what's the reason to complain and to create a NEW post for something we already know??
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Trying to justify buying/switching to another device that they know they will later regret.
I call it the witch hunt. Every phone has issues. Ics fixed banding issues but now we have to find another "flaw". Please name 1 device better than the galaxy note overall. And don't mention gimmicks like quad core.
Just because Nokia doesn't have a back bone and teamed up with windows phone, guess what, its still a windows phone lol.
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I love my screen, either I'm totally oblivious to these errors, or my note is fine. I watch videos all the time and never seen a problem, games are fine black backgrounds are fine. Not that I know what banding and black clipping is, but if it was that bad surely I would notice something wasn't right?
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I don't know but there are far too much people complaining about small things about the Note these past weeks and this is becoming quite annoying! Each time I come to the "General" part of this forum, there seems to be always someone bringing up something every week.....I mean, how picky can someone be with a phone? It is working correctly right? Games/Movies/Camera/Internet/Musics are playing correctly? So, what's the reason to complain and to create a NEW post for something we already know??
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it was not to let anyone know about the issues it was rather to highlight Nokia's strategy vs Samsung. nothing to do with SGN, i also see it as best.
it seems interpretation would be what you want to write rather what comment means actually.
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I am supecting this problem only existed in the early batch of SGN manufactured.
Both of the two white SGN I bought early this month don't have this screen defect. I even double checked before this post to make sure. Maybe they revised AMOLED panel already?
In a very dark room with screen intensity set to 71,335% and a small fairy waving a magic wand and chanting the theme song to Rocky I get banding with a downloaded, ****ty encoded divx movie and it really bothers me. Nokia is giving away free monies for a totally unrelated issue so now I feel entitled to free stuff from Samsung.
Oh, and my LG had 4 capacitive buttons and my Note only has two, I'm let down by this obvious design error so now I want even more monies and freebees.
So what that Samsung doesn't admit to this problem (that to me isn't even a widespread problem)? Would your life be any better if they said, yeah, you could have slight distortion in dark scenes? Would you be healthier? Would the love of your life suddenly call you when Samsung says something about banding?
Gorilla glass being prone to scratching (duh, it's glass...), slight distortion under very specific conditions, yeah, XDA is getting better every day.
Every phone has it's flaws but still, this is by far the best phone I have ever had.
Final5k said:
I don't know but there are far too much people complaining about small things about the Note these past weeks and this is becoming quite annoying! Each time I come to the "General" part of this forum, there seems to be always someone bringing up something every week.....I mean, how picky can someone be with a phone? It is working correctly right? Games/Movies/Camera/Internet/Musics are playing correctly? So, what's the reason to complain and to create a NEW post for something we already know??
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Human nature... Never satisfied, always complaining...
I love my Note and it's worth every penny!
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bioweb said:
In a very dark room with screen intensity set to 71,335% and a small fairy waving a magic wand and chanting the theme song to Rocky I get banding with a downloaded, ****ty encoded divx movie and it really bothers me. Nokia is giving away free monies for a totally unrelated issue so now I feel entitled to free stuff from Samsung.
Oh, and my LG had 4 capacitive buttons and my Note only has two, I'm let down by this obvious design error so now I want even more monies and freebees.
So what that Samsung doesn't admit to this problem (that to me isn't even a widespread problem)? Would your life be any better if they said, yeah, you could have slight distortion in dark scenes? Would you be healthier? Would the love of your life suddenly call you when Samsung says something about banding?
Gorilla glass being prone to scratching (duh, it's glass...), slight distortion under very specific conditions, yeah, XDA is getting better every day.
Every phone has it's flaws but still, this is by far the best phone I have ever had.
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so if they admit they will do something or you just kept guessing it will be resolved with ICS upgrade.
one more to comment without understanding post.....
I only have one thing to say about this and it's right on my signature.
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so if they admit they will do something or you just kept guessing it will be resolved with ICS upgrade.
one more to comment without understanding post.....
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Actually it seems that everyone understands your post just fine. Its just another whining post about feeling entitled to something for nothing.
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it was not to let anyone know about the issues it was rather to highlight Nokia's strategy vs Samsung. nothing to do with SGN, i also see it as best.
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The big difference is that Nokia is a company in crisis and is haemorrhaging customers, whereas Samsung is not.
This makes for completely different approaches in strategy.
If Nokia was as healthy as Apple or Samsung, no doubt it wouldn't be offering any such rebates!
For me, the whole black clipping "issue" has disappeared since I moved to an ICS based ROM, and (more importantly) reduce my dependence on DivX encoded AVIs. However, even before that, the SGN was still the best convergent device I've *ever* had, and I've had a lot of them!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
The big difference is that Nokia is a company in crisis and is haemorrhaging customers, whereas Samsung is not.
This makes for completely different approaches in strategy.
If Nokia was as healthy as Apple or Samsung, no doubt it wouldn't be offering any such rebates!
For me, the whole black clipping "issue" has disappeared since I moved to an ICS based ROM, and (more importantly) reduce my dependence on DivX encoded AVIs. However, even before that, the SGN was still the best convergent device I've *ever* had, and I've had a lot of them!
Regards,
Dave
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What rom are you on now? moving to ICS Stunner did absolutely nothing for me, clipping was still there just as bad.

As Much as I love the G2.. qwerty newcomer phone..

Don't get me wrong, I love my G2. But that being said I also love android which means tons of widgets and apps which tend to slow the slightly slower (ie experienced ) processor/ram on the G2. And I have a pretty quick ICS rom..
But that being said I am constantly on the prowl keeping an eye for the much rumored G3. Im sure others are like me. Unfortunately HTC sounds a bit anti-qwerty (and more and more anti-developers) lately (karma=loss of market share?) so it might be forthcoming.. ever.. So we must to other qwerty's.. I love HTC build quality but if a nice samsung or motorola qwerty comes along I might be out..
Sorry to beat around the bush, but I found a newcomer which seems pretty rocking. Check it out!
(Granted the name is not as slick or sexy as G3.. and its on sprints network ewww haha)
Engadget:
"Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE review: the best full QWERTY phone on Sprint's network"
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Mmmm look at that 5 row qwerty!!
And engadget loved it : "This is one of the finest physical keyboards we've used on an Android device in quite some time."
Granted I dont use sprint/sprints bands but at least phone makers are making qwertys with at least reasonable specs and ICS. Perhaps they are getting smart and trying to capture the rest of RIMM's market share..
unuseable for anyone who isn't on sprint. embedded sim card and i heard, non replaceable battery
such nice spec but such locked down features......
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I was looking at that my self and first of all motorolla from what i understand is even more anti dev than htc. Also the non removable battery kills it too as said before. I still have my fingers cross for the Galaxy Relay to have an S4
i like the phone.. just the fact that it's locked up tight like an adamantium chastity belt that's been welded shut rather than have a lock around it.
Yea the device is pretty nice but they totally dropped the ball on the embedded sim issue. While Motorola traditionally locks down their bootloader, this device is shipping with the ability to be unlocked.
If it had a removable sim & battery it would be totally killer, but it doesn't so it's a no starter.
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Sprint and Verizon are not the carrier choice for people (like me) who always need to travel outside of US.
blk_jack said:
Yea the device is pretty nice but they totally dropped the ball on the embedded sim issue. While Motorola traditionally locks down their bootloader, this device is shipping with the ability to be unlocked.
If it had a removable sim & battery it would be totally killer, but it doesn't so it's a no starter.
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agree, too bad. Id probably drop everything for it if it were gsm with a removable sim card and battery.. too bad too sad
Somebody knows about good QWERTY Android phone (with native ICS)? Replacement for Desire Z / G2? Can´t google anything...
as of now? there's only the relay which has embedded sim and nonremoveable battery.. and another one.. i can't remember off hte top of my head but it's headed to tmobile i believe.. that means you'll be stuck with a quirky band that wont work anywhere else inthe world.
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as of now? there's only the relay which has embedded sim and nonremoveable battery.. and another one.. i can't remember off hte top of my head but it's headed to tmobile i believe.. that means you'll be stuck with a quirky band that wont work anywhere else inthe world.
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Relay hasnt been released yet and so far seems that it has removable bat and obvs removable sim because its tmo. Maybe you are mixing up names.
Joe333x said:
Relay hasnt been released yet and so far seems that it has removable bat and obvs removable sim because its tmo. Maybe you are mixing up names.
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i might be mixing up. i know the cdma one, has non removable battery & sim.
although the tmo one still probalby just has tmo's bands only so it would only work halfway with other carrier's (say.. at&t or any other carrier around the world )
EDIT: after doing my reading again, what i was referring to was the photon. not the relay. Apologies >.<
This is proof that other manufacturers are hoping to cash in on HTC abandoning the original Android consumer base (those of us who prefer physical keyboards).
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This is proof that other manufacturers are hoping to cash in on HTC abandoning the original Android consumer base (those of us who prefer physical keyboards).
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I like how you said "original android consumer base" its so true, its seems mfgs just want to be like apple and that was the reason i went with the G1, i HATE on screen typing, i LOVE keyboards but no mfg wants to release one that is equal to the specs of the latest non qwerty. If this relay comes out and only has an S3 then it just shows no one cares about us qwerty lovers.
I need someone to buy this, tear it apart, and take photos, so i can see if it´s possible to solder an other sim in there.
This really needs to come to europe.
I'm so with you on the "HATE on screen typing and LOVE keyboards". Good thing I baby my G2 cuz it looks like I may have to keep for as long as possible.
Is that the Droid 4?
I recently acquired a Motorola Droid 3, which looks VERY similar to the phone in your pictures, so I am thinking it is the Droid 4, which was recently released on Verizon. Seems to be something about cell phone companies and phone names, they want to give it a different name on every carrier...
Another keyboard phone of interest to some is the Samsung Galaxy Q. It is a low end phone, but has a very nice keyboard, better than any other Samsung phone with a keyboard I have seen. I bought one for my daughter, and it works quite well, especially considering the price.
I'm actually gunna keep the desire z, I think it'll last another year, and with my nexus 7, I won't demand as much from it! Who's with me
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I'm actually gunna keep the desire z, I think it'll last another year, and with my nexus 7, I won't demand as much from it! Who's with me
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Same here :good:
xT4Z1N4TRx said:
I'm actually gunna keep the desire z, I think it'll last another year, and with my nexus 7, I won't demand as much from it! Who's with me
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I will keep both for several years if the jb roms gets better.
And then hardwaremod the crap out of it.
On that note, could you help me find out highest possible mW output on the powerline to the led? Don't care if it fries the original led, i want to put in a high power laser led in the phone
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Some new info about Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G - will be available beginning September 19th for $150 with a two-year agreement.

OPPO Find 5

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What do you guys think of the new Chinese phone that supports USA carriers?
You can view the specs here:
http://en.oppo.com/product/find5/
http://www.oppousa.com/
It's about the size of the Droid DNA, but better. I'm actually thinking of getting this. Doesn't have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB Version! Great price, and a premium product.
Bad thing is......you have to buy it via western union and/or wire transfer. They do accept Paypal over $300. They sent me this:
For avoid credit card fraud,we don't accept payments for product 300$ or more by Paypal or by credit cards. payments for product 300$ or more must be paid by bank transfer or Western Union MoneyGram. For more information,please visit : http://www.fastcardtech.com/article-9-Payment+Methods.html
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Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.
SovereignKnight said:
Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.
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Yeah it does! But the renders of this makes the phone looks huge when in reality its about the size of the DNA. I can't wait till Next Wednesday when they talk about it at one of the Beijing events.
It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.
looks good on the paper
Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.
I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.
Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.
BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.
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Yess!! The 12th of December!!! I'm excited for that. And thanks for clearing that up, I kind of figured but it's good to have a second opinion.
cocinci said:
Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.
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2500 MaH on a IPS display....it's really on how much you use your phone, because IPS is good on battery consumption, I think.
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I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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Just rechecked photo's, and well I don't find it a big deal. I've used the HD2, LG G2x, and HTC Sensation so if I get this phone it wouldn't be a big change.
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The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Since this phone is supporting US Carriers with a breeze, will there be XDA Dev willing to work on this phone? That would also be a plus when getting this pone.
boojay said:
Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.
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Whoaahh! Didn't know it was smaller than the OneS! But I knew it was about the size of the DNA. Thanks for doing the conversion!!
The thing I hate, and the LG G2x/O2x did this, was the hardware keys. Why so big? But your right, phones are getting bigger, and bigger is only good for people with big hands. Medium size hands like phones in the range of 4 - 4.7 inches. The DNA did it right by making it longer instead of wider, and I'm glad Oppo is understanding that. Hopefully the S4 and new upcoming phones get it. Keep the big phone size to the Note's.
BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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These specs are for a different phone mate.. it clearly states that it refers to a 4.5 inch phone with 720p screen... The dimensions are still impressive to be sure but nowhere near to what a 5 inch would be if they were able to fit it in just 65mm of width. It would imply a total absence of bezel as in *nil*, I don't think such a tech exists yet, true edge to edge is a decade away I'm afraid. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though...
BTW same applies on the existence of micro SD slot, it probably doesn't have one, at least the company doesn't hint that anywhere (sadly microsd slots seem to go the way of the dodo)...
So to recap, "hold on your horses", it'd probably be a thinner slightly cheaper DNA and given that it is a chinaphone I don't think many would be convinced... it's a good offering to be sure but nothing groundbreaking... again I hope to be proved wrong, if I do I would be the first in line to buy this phone (hate phablet sizes, love big screens and big memories)...
I updated the OP. It does not have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB version! I am thinking of getting this phone
best alternative to nexus 4(?
PontiacGTX said:
best alternative to nexus 4(?
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DEFIANTLY!! The best alternative!! But if you're on AT&T, sorry no LTE
Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update
richie390 said:
Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update
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My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
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My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
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This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.
richie390 said:
This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.
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Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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You made a good point about protecting the investment. But we're just gonna have to wait and see how this Chinese phone makes a impact on how the US will accept this
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[Q] Just got my Nexus 4 and it doesn't feel worth the price or "Nexus" label

[Q] Just got my Nexus 4 and it doesn't feel worth the price or "Nexus" label
Let's run down this list:
No LTE
720p screen is relatively standard
No hardware keys
Front camera is wimpy
No microSD
No USB Host/OTG out of box
Not easy to replace/disassemble
Poor impact protection (we've all seen the horrors)
Expensive replacement parts (what is it, $90 for the front?)
Average battery
I literally feel I'd be getting more with a One X or S3 for nearly the same price (I did get the phone directly from T-Mobile, which allows for exchange, though it is more expensive). So what if I have official Google support... what else makes this phone as great as people say it is?!? The GNex, and S2 also seem like better choices, if we are specifically discussing the same price point. The more I use it, the more iPhone-y it feels, just running 4.2.2 instead of iOS 7.
In summary: Why do you have this phone and why do you like it?
Dont cry, just sell it.
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ReMiXxXeD said:
Dont cry, just sell it.
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I can return it within 14 days, as I said, this is not an issue.
dwegiel said:
Let's run down this list:
No LTE
720p screen is relatively standard
No hardware keys
Front camera is wimpy
No microSD
No USB Host/OTG out of box
Not easy to replace/disassemble
Poor impact protection (we've all seen the horrors)
Expensive replacement parts (what is it, $90 for the front?)
Average battery
I literally feel I'd be getting more with a One X or S3 for nearly the same price (I did get the phone directly from T-Mobile, which allows for exchange, though it is more expensive). So what if I have official Google support... what else makes this phone as great as people say it is?!?
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You did not do your homework before you bought it?
Alright...sorry for my answer, i just hate if people crying here..you knew the Phones Hadware etc. before you got it. I really like the Nexus, it has very good handling and is lightning fast. The 720p Display is perfect, just rember ; everything above 300ppi looks the same for your eyes. I had to decide between the S3 and the N4 but after a while of playing with the S3 of a friend, i didnt even thought about buying the S3 anymore. I hate TouchWiz, its ugly and it's laggin. Maybe you know someone with an s3/OneX where you can test the phone for yourself
Sorry for my bad English , im German and only 14 years old yet.
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You did not do your homework before you bought it?
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I did, I just want to see the feedback of people who have used it longer than I have. Coming from a Samsung Mesmerize to the latest Nexus device, I expect... a LOT.
ReMiXxXeD said:
Alright...sorry for my answer, i just hate if people crying here..you knew the Phones Hadware etc. before you got it. I really like the Nexus, it has very good handling and is lightning fast. The 720p Display is perfect, just rember ; everything above 300ppi looks the same for your eyes. I had to decide between the S3 and the N4 but after a while of playing with the S3 of a friend, i didnt even thought about buying the S3 anymore. I hate TouchWiz, its ugly and it's laggin. Maybe you know someone with an s3/OneX where you can test the phone for yourself
Sorry for my bad English , im German and only 14 years old yet.
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If I was to get an S3 or HTC One or One S or One X, the first thing I would to is S-OFF and install the latest CyanogenMod build. I would not stick to Sense/TouchWiz.
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If I was to get an S3 or HTC One or One S or One X, the first thing I would to is S-OFF and install the latest CyanogenMod build. I would not stick to Sense/TouchWiz.
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Veeeery good decision !
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Veeeery good decision !
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I mean that's kind of a given. My Samsung Mesmerize runs 4.2.2 because of CM, when it would otherwise be stuck at 2.3.4.
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I mean that's kind of a given. My Samsung Mesmerize runs 4.2.2 because of CM, when it would otherwise be stuck at 2.3.4.
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Okay, but i dont understand your question then, if you defintely wont keep Sense/TouchWiz , why would you get the S3 or the OneX/S instead of keeping the Nexus? They are nearly the same... except of the Screen Processor etc. And of course the Handling but i think the N4 is better in all those categories ?
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The GNex, and S2 also seem like better choices, if we are specifically discussing the same price point. ....
In summary: Why do you have this phone and why do you like it?
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Seriously?
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Seriously?
Go ahead and buy a S2, I had that phone LOL, read my signature
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For real.
OP, care to explain this?
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dwegiel said:
Let's run down this list:
No LTE
720p screen is relatively standard
No hardware keys
Front camera is wimpy
No microSD
No USB Host/OTG out of box
Not easy to replace/disassemble
Poor impact protection (we've all seen the horrors)
Expensive replacement parts (what is it, $90 for the front?)
Average battery
I literally feel I'd be getting more with a One X or S3 for nearly the same price (I did get the phone directly from T-Mobile, which allows for exchange, though it is more expensive). So what if I have official Google support... what else makes this phone as great as people say it is?!? The GNex, and S2 also seem like better choices, if we are specifically discussing the same price point. The more I use it, the more iPhone-y it feels, just running 4.2.2 instead of iOS 7.
In summary: Why do you have this phone and why do you like it?
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1. it does have lte, its just disabled. you can enable it, i use strictly lte now.
2. its better than most devices
3. one of the best features
4. almost all front cams are wimpy
5. that bugged me a few years back, i quickly grew out of it.
6. doesnt relate to me.
7. fairly easy to disassemble.
8. in certain situations yes. but mine has fallen too many times without any damage, no protection on it, naked.
9. shop around
10. better than average battery.
ReMiXxXeD said:
Okay, but i dont understand your question then, if you defintely wont keep Sense/TouchWiz , why would you get the S3 or the OneX/S instead of keeping the Nexus? They are nearly the same... except of the Screen Processor etc. And of course the Handling but i think the N4 is better in all those categories ?
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The phones I listed have the features that a Nexus 4 doesn't. Other than a quad core processor, all I see is advantages on the other phones. The HTC One has better audio quality and camera, the S3 (IMO) has a better screen and is a lot more disassembly-friendly, and includes LTE, an SD card slot, and many more things.
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1. it does have lte, its just disabled. you can enable it, i use strictly lte now.
2. its better than most devices
3. one of the best features
4. almost all front cams are wimpy
5. that bugged me a few years back, i quickly grew out of it.
6. doesnt relate to me.
7. fairly easy to disassemble.
8. in certain situations yes. but mine has fallen too many times without any damage, no protection on it, naked.
9. shop around
10. better than average battery.
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1. its only has LTE on a single band.
4. Many phones feature 1080p front cams
7. Battery can't be swapped on the go.
8. $90 to replace the LCD and Touchscreen? Let's try $20 to replace the front glass on an S3 instead.
10. depends on the usage, kernel, clock and rom.
estallings15 said:
For real.
OP, care to explain this?
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S2 has a nearly as well established dev community, i know the screen is only 800x480, but the processor speed is comparable, USB OTG is out of the box, dedicated buttons for actions.
Overdose1986 said:
Seriously?
Go ahead and buy a S2, I had that phone LOL, read my signature
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Please justify the upsides of owning an N4, and I will reply to S2 ownership.
I'm have my nexus 4 since today, and the phone it's amazing... I have the doubt to buy s3 or n4, and decide to nexus4, because of everything.... Better hardware, more beautiful... The card slot I don't care, or radio fm... Nexus it's awesome phone
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dwegiel said:
Why do you have this phone and why do you like it?
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No LTE - Not in my area, plus I get better speeds than cable with HSPA+.
720p screen is relatively standard - And more than sufficient for a 4.7 inch display. Why would you want to waste more battery and GPU pushing more pixels? Especially when you ***** about battery life and screen replacement cost just a few lines down.
No hardware keys - Nexus won't ever have them, but you knew that, right?
Front camera is wimpy - More than enough for it's intended purpose. Why would I want to compress more pixels for a video chat?
No microSD; No USB Host/OTG out of box - Design decision, but you knew that, right? Its a phone, I have no need for these.
Not easy to replace/disassemble - Did you check the iFixit teardown? More serviceable than most phones. I think the build design is very good.
Poor impact protection - The drop tests I saw had it compare favorably to the S3.
Expensive replacement parts (what is it, $90 for the front?) - Yes, due to a fused digitizer/display. Seems about average for both.
Average battery - Check out Qualcomm's Battery Guru.
In addition to my differences with the above assessments, I think the phone looks and feels great, works great, is open and unlocked (I will never be on contract again), and is priced at a point where I won't get sick if I lose it or drop it (which for me really adds to the usability).
dwegiel said:
Please justify the upsides of owning an N4, and I will reply to S2 ownership.
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I get great battery life. The GPS locks insanely fast. The phone is blazing fast. Dev support is second-to-none. It's gorgeous. It feels amazing in my hand. The screen looks great. I don't have to settle for CM.
Oh, and PA is developed specifically for this device. That means we get the new features first. And the builds aren't ports. They're compiled, fully functioning builds.

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