Hello Note 10.1 users.
As stated, this is for my younger sister who just got out of college.
She's considering a tablet and I have a Note II which I love. I've always been an android user, since the nexus one (which she uses since i got the galaxy nexus).
When I'm reading online, even android websites say that android tablets are not on par w/ the iPad. I see that it's about the apps, but I feel like all the big apps are on android too, so I'm just confused.
Has anyone here had significant experience w/ one of the "new" ipads (3rd or 4th) that can offer their thoughts?
The reason I'm considering the Note 10.1 is because the only other 10 inch android tablet that seems good is the transformer infinity and their forums are just RIDDLED with problems, which I don't see Note 10.1 users having. So it seems to be the most stable 10 inch tablet on android.
There's two ipads in my home. My step sons and my wife's. My wife just got the 10.1 after seeing mine and gave her other son the ipad. Just go to a store a try all your options and see what you like best.
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ksc6000 said:
Hello Note 10.1 users.
As stated, this is for my younger sister who just got out of college.
She's considering a tablet and I have a Note II which I love. I've always been an android user, since the nexus one (which she uses since i got the galaxy nexus).
When I'm reading online, even android websites say that android tablets are not on par w/ the iPad. I see that it's about the apps, but I feel like all the big apps are on android too, so I'm just confused.
Has anyone here had significant experience w/ one of the "new" ipads (3rd or 4th) that can offer their thoughts?
The reason I'm considering the Note 10.1 is because the only other 10 inch android tablet that seems good is the transformer infinity and their forums are just RIDDLED with problems, which I don't see Note 10.1 users having. So it seems to be the most stable 10 inch tablet on android.
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Depends on what she wants, does she want high resolution screen/media consumption device or a device more geared toward productivity?
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You need to consider what your Sister wants to do with it.
What does she do for a living, what brand of phone does she have, will she be a casual user or a power user.
Would she be happy with a plain Jane iPad as far as customizing goes?
Will she enjoy the artistic aspect of the Note 10.1's S-Pen.
As far as apps go... both android and ios have a wide range of quality apps. that would satisfy user of any age or profession
I have used iPod, iPad, Blackberry Playbook, Kindle fire, and a Note 10.1
My favorite device is the Note 10.1 here are some of the reasons why
The S-Pen, muti-window & dual view, air view, easy clip, smart stay, buddy photo share, live video w/ chapter preview, smart remote, formula match and pop up play.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 is truly The New Way
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...muti-window ...
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Once you get used to that you never wanna have something other. I tell you, two aspects of the note are essential: as mentioned the multiwindow feature and the spen (including all the hardware). I use my note for studying and all i have to carry to university is this tablet. I do ALL my work on it with lecture notes but thats another long story... you can find a lot here in this forum.
Back to the multiwindow thing. I promise you, once tried you ll get addicted to it. The feeling is "pretty close" to working on a desktop/laptop machine. I owned the p7500 before i moved on to the note and that was a whole new experience. But to be honest you have to be rooted to REALLY use multiwindow in nearly every app. out of the box it just supports a couple of stock apps and that really sucked.
The Note is the best tablet on the market with one glaring deficiency: it's 147PPI display. Nothing competes with S Pen, S Note, multiview, airview, and all the additional features Samsung packs in to it. For someone that values those features (I do) the 147PPI display is the price you have to pay to get them.
For someone who just wants consumption, the two best tablets are the Xperia Z or Samsung P5200 (their version of the Nexus 10). The first was just announced and I'm not sure of when it goes on sale in the U.S. The second was leaked with no detail yet on features (other than the display resolution), price or availability. The N10 has a ton of issues and because it's "pure Google" missing a lot of features in other tablets. If you have a Costco near you buy her a Note there and, if she doesn't like it or something new comes along, you can return it within 90 days no-questions asked.
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The Note is the best tablet on the market with one glaring deficiency: it's 147PPI display. Nothing competes with S Pen, S Note, multiview, airview, and all the additional features Samsung packs in to it. For someone that values those features (I do) the 147PPI display is the price you have to pay to get them.
For someone who just wants consumption, the two best tablets are the Xperia Z or Samsung P5200 (their version of the Nexus 10). The first was just announced and I'm not sure of when it goes on sale in the U.S. The second was leaked with no detail yet on features (other than the display resolution), price or availability. The N10 has a ton of issues and because it's "pure Google" missing a lot of features in other tablets. If you have a Costco near you buy her a Note there and, if she doesn't like it or something new comes along, you can return it within 90 days no-questions asked.
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Well, it looks like I can get a refurbished one for 380 on ebay. I think I'm going to do that. The Xperia Z looks like a VERY premium tablet, so I'm sure it'll carry a premium price too, and she can barely afford the $380. I would've got her the nexus 10 as I love my nexus 7, but after reading through xda, and seeing that it has nothing but random reboot problems...I said f that.
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When I'm reading online, even android websites say that android tablets are not on par w/ the iPad.
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What android website writes such nonsense?
The Nexus 10 is better then the Ipad in EVERYTHING.
The Note 10 is better then the Nexus 10 because it has the s-pen, s-note, a sd-card slot and so on.
You seem not to know that the question "Android or Apple" is a religious, political question (seriously).
How dare you come to a Android forum and ask about an Apple product? You heretic! hehe (joke).
Now seriously again:
Most of us would never buy an Ipad, whatever specs it has, because it is an Apple product.
All apple products have the apple philosophy of being closed, limited.
Apple makes easy products, suited for your grandma.
To do this they have to RESTRICT your freedom to do things with the device. This limits what you can do with the device and limits your control on even your own data, but it limits also your chances to damage your device by doing something wrong.
A elderly person should buy an apple product because it is easy and an elderly person does not need advanced features.
A smart, young person should buy an android because it gives him the freedom to modify/customize everything and lets him do whatever he wants.
It is a political question:
Do you prefer the former "Soviet Union" (Apple) or the USA (Android)?
Soviet union (Apple): Easy life, the state gives you a job, a home but you have no freedom. (Apple Ipad: easy to use, but limited freedom.)
USA (Android): You have the freedom to become a billionaire like bill gates or fail and land homeless in the streets. How good or bad your life is, is in your hands. (Android Note 10.1: You can do whatever your want and can do many things an Ipad can not. But, you can also root your device, do some error and brick it.)
The Ipad does not have a Pen!
Try to use a Note 10.1 with the Pen for a week and then tell us whether you can continue to live with a device without a Pen.
Get her the Ipad, if you get her the note 10.1 and see what its like she won't end up with a new tablet or you'll have to get another one...:laugh:
I use my note 10.1 for everything. It does everything the ipad does and more. You can customise it to how you like it and change the rom if it doesn't suit you or you aren't getting updates. Modding is easy and throw in the s-pen and you have a brilliant tablet. So I say, get your sister the Ipad or you'll end up with a new tablet and she'll be disappointed....:good:
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It is a political question:
Do you prefer the former "Soviet Union" (Apple) or the USA (Android)?
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Iran's nuclear ambitions are a political question. As is Palestine vs. Israel and Pyongyang's lunacy du jour. Android vs. iOS is a practical question. Do you want your tablet experience to be easy, consistent and well defined out of the box with content spoon fed to you and in return give up some flexibility? If so, pick iOS. Do you want your tablet experience to allow for a high degree of customization and configuration with more content flexibility and in return you have to have a higher degree of technical knowledge and need to invest more time? Pick Android.
I'm committed to Android personally but consistently recommend iOS to my non-technical friends because for people that just want to do stuff without having to think about it iOS is a better choice. If someone asks me whether they should go with Android or iOS I hand them my phone or tablet and tell them to play with it. If after a few minutes they look totally confused I recommend iOS. If they get in to the menus and apps and start asking decent questions I recommend Android. Just because we personally enjoy and support Android doesn’t mean iOS isn’t a viable solution for quite a few people.
And the N10 is a train wreck. There are a ton of h/w and QC issues along with it using a barren AOSP interface designed for a phone. 4.2 still has tons of issues that haven’t been resolved yet. The number of people unhappy with the N10 is the highest I’ve seen for an Android tablet to date which is saying something because Asus’ tablets are no walk in the park. The N4’s got more than its share of issues including a rather serious thermal throttling problem when under extended load. Just because a Google device is “pure” and/or says “Nexus” on it doesn’t automatically make it good.
If your sister has any intention of using the tablet for just playing "games" or watching stuff online, you're better off getting her an iPad. You won't have to field any questions because she won't have this bias that the device is hard to use.
If your sister is the kind of person who likes to tweak her devices, do digital art, maybe take notes, you can't lose with the Note 10.1.
If I were you, I'd just stick them with the iPad because I hate getting complaints based on people's preconceived notion on how hard Android devices are to use.
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Iran's nuclear ambitions are a political question. As is Palestine vs. Israel and Pyongyang's lunacy du jour. Android vs. iOS is a practical question.
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You are wrong.
"I do not want a device that restricts my freedom and does not respect my privacy", "I do not want to give money to a company that produces devices that restrict freedom and do not respect privacy", "I do not want to buy products from a company that gets rich by exploiting poor Chinese workers" ARE political and ethical choices.
Just like "buying fair trade products", "not buying meat, because you do not want to kill animals", "not buying north-Korean/Iranian/Israeli" are political and ethical choices. Understand?
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Do you want your tablet experience to be easy, consistent and well defined out of the box with content spoon fed to you and in return give up some flexibility? If so, pick iOS. Do you want your tablet experience to allow for a high degree of customization and configuration with more content flexibility and in return you have to have a higher degree of technical knowledge and need to invest more time? Pick Android.
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I wrote almost the same.
But...
The amount of technical knowledge required to use STOCK samsung/android is not much higher then with an Ipad and your CAN invest time to do advanced stuff, but you do not have to. One can live fine also without root, cwm, overclocking, side-loading, ROM-flashing. My 70 year old "non technical" mother lives fine with a stock samsung android phone. She does not need an Iphone.
Stock samsung/android is very similar to iOS. We all know why.... because Android/Samsung copied it from Apple.
Just like Windows is a copy of the Apple Macintosh. So you recommend your "non technical friends" to buy Macintosh (iMac as they call them now) and not a Windows pc?
The comparison iOS/Android is exactly the same as Macintosh/Windows.
I do not underestimate the intelligence of my friends/family.
ksc6000 said:
Hello Note 10.1 users.
As stated, this is for my younger sister who just got out of college.
She's considering a tablet and I have a Note II which I love. I've always been an android user, since the nexus one (which she uses since i got the galaxy nexus).
When I'm reading online, even android websites say that android tablets are not on par w/ the iPad. I see that it's about the apps, but I feel like all the big apps are on android too, so I'm just confused.
Has anyone here had significant experience w/ one of the "new" ipads (3rd or 4th) that can offer their thoughts?
The reason I'm considering the Note 10.1 is because the only other 10 inch android tablet that seems good is the transformer infinity and their forums are just RIDDLED with problems, which I don't see Note 10.1 users having. So it seems to be the most stable 10 inch tablet on android.
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i have owned Note 10.1 for 5 months since it came to my country. screen is ****! real ****! u know it has the same screen as the first galaxy tab 10.1? YEAH! go for iPad 4! i will get the iPad 5 when it comes out, my first ever iOS device that i would own. i have used iPad 4 of my friend and it is really really great. my only grudge is that there is no file browser and everything has to be transferred through the iTunes. thats it! nothing else! go for iPad 4 it has the best screen and the best app support and the best of all, it has a great battery life and as a bonus a great resale value... hope u got my point
I gotta tell you, I've used Android and iOS for a long time. Still have an iPad 2 in the house and had an original iPad. I truly and honestly don't get why people continue to perpetuate this myth that Android is "hard to use" and "requires technical knowledge" as well as all the other comments about it that imply difficulty. I've actually found it to be the opposite. Android seems to just make sense to me. In iOS everything I try to do is a monumental pain in the ass. It seems even the most basic activities require going to all kinds of different places.
As for your sister, also consider "total cost of ownership" which goes way beyond the cost of the tablet itself. It seems to me that comparable iOS apps are generally more expensive...not to mention that if you get sucked into the iOS world you usually have to buy a tablet app and a phone app separately. Lots of Android apps work perfectly on a tablet and phone and look great so you really don't need 2 of the same app.
I would also suggest, unless she needs a stylus because she likes to draw or whatever, there are much less expensive and equally good options out there for far less money than the Note 10.1 or the iFad.
^^^ this. Replaced my wife's iphone 4 with a note 2. She asked me how to put her music on it. I told her to plug it into her laptop make a music folder on her sd card and drag her music into it. Her mouth dropped and said that's it?! I always had to work her iTunes for her and it annoyed the crap out of me. Glad she took my advice this time when she upgraded.
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I haven't ever owned an Apple device, but it's definitely not "easier to use" when I tried my friends' phones. I mean, the way people talk about Android stuff like you have to be a techie to use it.. Sure, you COULD geek out to do a lot of other stuff, but it's completely unnecessary. The only reason I know a little bit about geeking out is because I found the XDA forums for my first Android tablet and I wanted to do more than just browsing.
Take the note 10, about the interface of apple and how it is easy, you could install a launcher that will make it like the ipad or even windows phone
Done !!!
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With the Note 10.1 I was able to download a pdf, import it to SNote, fill out the pdf, exported the edited pdf to pdf and email it to the company that wanted me to print it out, write on it then scan it and after all that, email it back to them..
I'm not sure this can be done or not on an iPad for I have never owned an Apple product nor do I even want to own one
This is reason enough for me to say, purchase the Note 10.1
Got the note and my sister loves it! Thanks to you all
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Found a 16GB wifi ipad on cl today for 250 bucks. I said screw it and tried it. I love android. I'm a fanboy through and through, but dammit if this ipad just doesn't do everything smooth as butter. Really puts my tab to shame. I fear for Android in the tablet market....I don't think it can compete.
So your selling your tab?
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Funny how i am experiencing a direct opposite situation. Had an ipad, got a good deal for the tab, and now loving the tab to bits even if its still a work in progress.
What customizations and tweaking have you done,
oh wait...
and if you are selling your tab id be happy to buy it, i could carry one in each pocket, can you? trolloolololol
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What customizations and tweaking have you done,
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and if you are selling your tab id be happy to buy it, i could carry one in each pocket, can you? trolloolololol
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Jail breaking is pretty much the same as rooting. What a null argument.
You realise that posting this here is just asking for trolls, right? And the iPad does not do everything smoother (yes, I know this to be true, I own an iPad too).
Anyhoo, Android 2.2/2.3 can't compete on 10.1" tablets, but Android 3 most certainly can.
What the iPad does, it does very well indeed. However, what it doesn't do is fit in a jacket pocket, which makes my Tab a superior device for *my* purposes.
I shouldn't worry too much about Android tablets though - if you really want to compare, we should probably wait for the Tab 10.1 or 8.9 running Honeycomb and then see, because IMO the Tab 7 is a different class of device to the iPad.
FWIW, if someone offered me an iPad for $250, I'd almost certainly have bought it too - for my wife!
Regards,
Dave
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Jail breaking is pretty much the same as rooting. What a null argument.
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Jailbreaking, lol.
It doesn't even compare, all the things you can do on a jailbroken iDevice you can do on a non rooted Droid.
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
natious said:
Jailbreaking, lol.
It doesn't even compare, all the things you can do on a jailbroken iDevice you can do on a non rooted Droid.
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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Could say the same about the other way around you know. For example try to use the proxy settings, or the vpn one. Gingerbread and honeycomb i dunno, but donut to froyo can't handle those properly... iOS did it for years.
In the end it's all about what you need: fast and reliable? iOS. Customization/choice? Android. Also an iOS device will become obsolete in a lot more time than an Android one, my iPhone3g will be obsolete when iOS 4.3 will be released. Any Android will be obsolete in a few months and have to rely on the community to keep on getting updates, for sure you aren't going to see updates after 2 newer models are released and a third one is shaping at the horizon.
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Jailbreaking, lol.
It doesn't even compare, all the things you can do on a jailbroken iDevice you can do on a non rooted Droid.
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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No, you can't. I'm not even going to argue with you on the numerous scenarios either. You've shown your cards already....
thats a good deal, i had a 16gb and 64gb wifi and sold both them.. looking to get the ipad 2 now. still keeping my galaxy tab because >> ipad 1 and 2 lol
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u can buy soup in a bag?
I had an ipad as well. I really liked it till I got a tab. It's a matter of size, customization and functionality to me. I like the ability to customize my technology (whatever it is) to work the way I do. The ipads interface and apps just didn't allow me to work the way I want.
In the end, I gave it to my daughter. She loves it to death. I attribute this to the fact that she doesn't do a whole lot of thinking.
The ipad is pretty much a perfect facebook companion.
EDIT: I just talked to my daughter, and she's back to her (windows 7) laptop for facebook. Something about the ipad not being able to do anything with pictures from her camera. She asked me if the tab had a card slot and I told her it did. She then asked if she could trade the ipad for my tab. I laughed. So, I'm getting the ipad back, tossing it on fleabay, and getting another tab.
No sd or microsd on the ipad? I didn't even notice that, as I only used it for a few days before I gave it to her. I just looked, and there's none on the ipad 2 either? Lol. In the ipad 3 or 4, maybe steve jobs can get one of his cronies to add a microsd socket, and he can charge for every file that gets transferred from or to it. lol.
My kids are all very, very tech savvy. It says a lot to me that they don't want an ipad even when it's *given* to them.
he is right Ipad is nicer piece of hardware...but that it.
he is right Ipad is nicer piece of hardware...but that it.
my son(macbook/ipad/iphone3gs) and daughter (macbook/ipod)are mac kids.
The devices are beutifull and well made...and run like butta!
My problem is with apple and the hold they have on the software.
Flash is a must (now not in 5years) and I love the fact that developers give you otions on what you want to run on a device you paid for - With android.
itunes is cool but you are stuck with the ios device...even after you spend all the cash for movies and music...only ios can play!
Hell no... I am an american and freedom is the american way.
Death to S. Jobs. (maybe not death...at least a sprained ankle.)
ANDROID FO LIFE!
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I had an ipad as well. I really liked it till I got a tab. It's a matter of size, customization and functionality to me. I like the ability to customize my technology (whatever it is) to work the way I do. The ipads interface and apps just didn't allow me to work the way I want.
In the end, I gave it to my daughter. She loves it to death. I attribute this to the fact that she doesn't do a whole lot of thinking.
The ipad is pretty much a perfect facebook companion.
EDIT: I just talked to my daughter, and she's back to her (windows 7) laptop for facebook. Something about the ipad not being able to do anything with pictures from her camera. She asked me if the tab had a card slot and I told her it did. She then asked if she could trade the ipad for my tab. I laughed. So, I'm getting the ipad back, tossing it on fleabay, and getting another tab.
No sd or microsd on the ipad? I didn't even notice that, as I only used it for a few days before I gave it to her. I just looked, and there's none on the ipad 2 either? Lol. In the ipad 3 or 4, maybe steve jobs can get one of his cronies to add a microsd socket, and he can charge for every file that gets transferred from or to it. lol.
My kids are all very, very tech savvy. It says a lot to me that they don't want an ipad even when it's *given* to them.
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ipad 2 has the .03 megapixel camera, tell her she doesnt need her camera any more hahahahahahah
I'm also going to share my thoughts.
I actually have a Nook Color - But it's comparable to the tab (dont decapitate me.. ).
I like iOs, because it's simple and always works. I still have to reinstall it every 6 months, because I somehow always manage to junk it so full, that it actually doesn't work anymore. (jailbreak etc.).
What I don't like about iOs, that you have to jailbreak it so you can customize it, but you can't customize a lot and what I'm also missing are basic widgets.
What i like about Apple products is that they are very well designed, also robust and nice looking (always). My Ipod3G fell down about 30-50 times, and nothing broke (i also have a case).
What I like most about Apple products has actually nothing to do with the device itself:
With apple products one always gets a huge community support, enabling the jailbreak, and making great cydia apps that allow you to make your device finally yours.
and second off course the apps, iOs has got really great apps, and all of them are functioning. Steve Jobs proudly said that there are 65.000 apps for the ipad.
I changed over to android, because it fed me up to not being able to update, because otherwise I would lose the Jailbreak, and an iOS-device without jailbreak is like a headphone without cable^^(in****s XD).
What I see as a problem for any android tablet is simply that there are hardly any tablet apps, for an ipad you get music production software and all sorts of fun apps, and for the tab you cant even get a nice mail app in the market ( i use Mail'd though).
I just didnt buy the ipad, because it's to expensiv, too big and I was actually looking for an ereader. But the sad thing is that I haven't found any better use for it, than it being an ereader. With the tab off course you get 3g and a camera and stuff like that, but I really miss tablet optimized apps.
I hope that honeycomb will start to get the developers to make some slick apps, but I dought that there will be a big variety.
By the way, there's that sdcardreader adapter for the ipad, allows you to import fotos to your ipad, the usbrcameradongle, allows you to connect your camera. With a jailbreak you can also mount Usb sticks and Harddrives if they are powered, so if they need extra power, a extra Usb cable you have to provide that otherwise it wont work.
I will never buy an apple product again. I got so irked at them when they purposely released an iOS that made my iPhone completely nonfunctional. Wanna read the news? There's an app for that! *waits 3 minutes to load* *click on article.....crashed to homescreen...* FFFUUUUUUUUUUU
I mean ffs the new iOS made my phone so bad that I couldn't answer calls. The iPhone wasn't even functional as a PHONE.
That and I got sick and tired of having to backup my stupid phone just to add one song.
Don't get me wrong, I know that as the OS advances, it requires more resources but they could have at least gave us a few options to disable the fancy 3d effects and stuff. I'm still stuck on my iphones contract but I got so frustrated that I just got a tab and downgraded the iPhone plan to a dumbphone plan.
I am not an Apple basher as I have been a Mac owner. I had an iPad for 3 weeks and sent it back. It does some things very well and I do feel that it is a little more mature. But I sent it back because it is a big iPod (no flames please), not a real computing device. There are several things that make this or any future version of iPad a non-starter for me.
IOS lacks a true visible file system. The application owns the data and unless an application is written to be aware of other apps, the files are unavailable to other apps, even if they know how to read the file format. Also, deleting the app deletes the data. Sorry, but that is an accident waiting to happen. Unacceptable. Add the absolute control that Apple maintains and I am done. Plus, throw in the size and weight (it is HEAVY).
The Galaxy Tab is a dream come true. Size, weight, performance are perfect. When you can fold the iPad and put it in a coat pocket I will look twice and then probably pass. I might take a picture of it with my Galaxy Tab.
watching apple vs android is almost similar like watching republic vs democrat no offense intended
i never own any apple products though, but i've seen some from my friends
nice hardware, yes, but thats it
the gui is so blah made me not interested in iOS at all
and what makes me hate iOS more is the cockyness of their ifan
I once told my friend that i want to buy htc smartphone when he squirk and laugh at me and said "Dude, you have the money, why would you buy an "HTC" phone when you can get all the prestige using "iPhone"?"
that alone makes me skyrocketing into apple hater
I better spend my money on a device that gave me feature and freedom instead of being a dog and woof to every little thing Steve Jobs point at
and that video from conan about Ipad 2 was blast ^^
but still, a person's choice is very well their own rights, and we have to respect that
fare thee well my bro, who crossed over to the dark side
wish you all the best
First off, I have an android phone, motorola atria.
I have a 32gb wifi iPad, and a chance to trade it for either an acer a500 or samsung galaxy tab 10.1 4g. It would be a straight trade. Would you do it?
I like the apps for the iPad, and there are great games for it. This is my only major road block right now. Hardware wise, I would trade for either one easily, but it's the software side that's keeping me from the simple trade.
Are there apps for android that are specifically made for tablets like iOS and their "hd" version of apps?
It seems the quality of apps and especially games are better right now for iPad?
Ps. In general I do prefer android, I would never trade my atrix for an iPhone. I'm speaking just tablet wise right now.
An iPad 1? It's a roughly equivalent trade though they might be coming out slightly ahead on a purely dollar perspective. Performance-wise, you may like the faster Android tablets if this not an iPad 2. However, if the software is there for you on the iPad, you could simply look to sell your iPad and pick up a newer iPad later. I would suspect Apple is due for an iPad 3 upgrade in the near future.
There are some apps Google claims as "tablet" in their tablet tab but they appear to just be standard apps a lot of times. Some apps do list themselves as HD, usually suggesting they work well with tabs but I don't know that Android has the same quantity of tab apps that iOS does. Most of the time you're just working with phone apps that also work on a tab. If sales increase on Android tablets, I would expect that to change but it may not be the fastest process, particularly if phone apps are working.
App quality on Android certainly runs the spectrum from really solid to absolute junk. Given Google's app stance, that's just the way things go. Right now, companies looking to sell apps and games still look to iOS first. Even at a lower market percentage, iOS is still more profitable for developers than Android. Android users just seem to be more reluctant to purchase apps where iOS doesn't seem to suffer that same problem - Apple's got them used to opening their wallets wide and frequently That's not to say that there isn't junk on iOS.
Part of the reason for the junk, though, is the way Apple and Google go about allowing publishing. You need to be a subscriber to some annual developer service on Apple to publish. $99 a year, I believe. Not a huge amount but it's a consideration. I don't know that Google has any monetary requirements involved. So Google gets a lot more people wanting to develop for it but they can end up with guys that are just learning Java and scrounged something together that managed to run. On the other hand, you get some great developers that have an easy entry in and can put out brilliant software. There's good and bad that comes with both positions.
As the previous poster said, it depends on if it is an iPad 1 or 2. Just to put things in perspective right now:
In canada, a wifi iPad2 32GB is $619.99, An Iconia A500 32GB can cost as low as $349.99. If you have an iPad2 you are probably better off selling the iPad separately and buying an Iconia. If you are looking at a Galaxy Tab then a straight up trade might not be so bad as they cost more and have more "appeal" than an Acer tab. By appeal I mean resale value of a Galaxy tab is likely higher because of the "Galaxy" name.
As for the software side of things. I have plenty of apps that work great on the tablet. There are some HD versions of apps and the number of tab apps keeps growing. The only issue I have is sometimes trying to find apps for tablets, but the market is slowly getting better at that too.
Regarding apps, you have to consider that android tablets are a year "younger" than ipads. The quantity is not nearly close to the numbers for ipad. The good news is that most of the phone apps will work just fine and with ICS optimizing an app for both small screens and large ones is easier, so ideally developers should make better apps (actually it's easier in HC too, but but there are no HC phones ) . The bad news is that as someone here said android users don't open their wallets as often or as wide as Apple ones, so the development almost always goes with ios in mind and android follows. However this will also change in the future.
I have access to both the A500 and GT 10.1 and samsung beats the iconia only in the battery. The screen is oversaturated (someone may like it that way, I but I hate it), and no USB, they even have the ridiculous apple's connector for charging and connecting to pc.
And one more thing - android developers also have to pay a 25$ one-time fee for registration in the market.
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I sold my ipad 1 so I could buy my iconia tab. There is much more I can do with the iconia
Than a ipad. I guess its the freedom android offers that lured me overfrom apple. I like the
Galaxie tab 10 but there is no usb port so the iconia was my choice. Good luck with the deal
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First off, I have an android phone, motorola atria.
I have a 32gb wifi iPad, and a chance to trade it for either an acer a500 or samsung galaxy tab 10.1 4g. It would be a straight trade. Would you do it?
I like the apps for the iPad, and there are great games for it. This is my only major road block right now. Hardware wise, I would trade for either one easily, but it's the software side that's keeping me from the simple trade.
Are there apps for android that are specifically made for tablets like iOS and their "hd" version of apps?
It seems the quality of apps and especially games are better right now for iPad?
Ps. In general I do prefer android, I would never trade my atrix for an iPhone. I'm speaking just tablet wise right now.
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From a hardware perspective, the answer is easy--i.e. Android tablets are better. I have recommended iPads and Android tablets to various people. It really boiled down to what they were wanting/needing. iPad has simplicity because you are prevented from doing pretty much anything to the device. I have folks who prefer that. An Android tablet gives a better desktop/laptop experience because you can customize. Software is a biggie. If you have apps you enjoy on the iPad, you need to investigate if they also exist on the Android or if something comparative exists. You mention enjoying games. You'll really like Gamesoft's games. I also like the emulators for Android, which means I can enjoy playing my old NES/SNES/Genesis/etc. games on my tablet.
The iPad 3 will come out (instead of originally coming out this year, rumour has it Apple extended the date to coincide with the iPad anniversary next year). The iPad 3 will more than likely come with a quad core processor. One of the biggest problems with iPads is the lack of connections, so an Android tablet will win in that test. Being able to upgrade your storage is a pretty huge plus. I know iPad has the iCloud. As I tell folks, that is great if you are in an area where you can actually get to the cloud, otherwise it is a huge fail.
One more comment about apps. Yes, iPad has a larger selection, so again do your homework on those iPad apps you use frequently. Yes, there are apps and games that are released specifically for Android tablets versus phones. I liked Adobe offering their support to Android with their Photoshop app. Not only is it available for Android but Adobe released the software for Android before iPad.
Best of luck. Hope some of this is of use.
Keep the iPad.
I figure anybody who bought one, well, they should just live with it.
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Keep the iPad.
I figure anybody who bought one, well, they should just live with it.
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Giggles ...
i think you should maybe ask your wife or girl friend what to do.. Sheesh cant anyone make a decision on there own...
Honey to i continue to be a slave of the apple.. Or do i get the freedom of Android..
THIS is a No Brain-er Decision ..
Giggles.. FOR REAL do what you feel is right for you
as we do not know your personality what you like dislike is size weight a issue.. Is being Cool in front of your friends a requirement... I say Ditch the IOS. BUT IM Sure you get that from the beginning of my post
Good Luck with what ever you choose to do... but i would not trade even thou retail value is likely higher for the ipad .
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Giggles ...
i think you should maybe ask your wife or girl friend what to do.. Sheesh cant anyone make a decision on there own...
Honey to i continue to be a slave of the apple.. Or do i get the freedom of Android..
THIS is a No Brain-er Decision ..
Giggles.. FOR REAL do what you feel is right for you
as we do not know your personality what you like dislike is size weight a issue.. Is being Cool in front of your friends a requirement... I say Ditch the IOS. BUT IM Sure you get that from the beginning of my post
Good Luck with what ever you choose to do... but i would not trade even thou retail value is likely higher for the ipad .
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Geeze Erica, I did ask her that. Her response... if I had owned an iPad, she wouldn't have introduced me to her Matrix bedsheets )))) iPad apps lack imagination and usefullness....
Poor iPad owners..((((
That's the thing I don't get. Is anyone planning on installing 140,000 apps on they're tab? Most likely there's going to be something that does the exact same thing, or similar, on android if it has any value. My impression is also that android phone apps run better on tabs than iOS on iPad
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Geeze Erica, I did ask her that. Her response... if I had owned an iPad, she wouldn't have introduced me to her Matrix bedsheets )))) iPad apps lack imagination and usefullness....
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Well you have a keeper then.Is she as hot as she is intelligent.
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I have both an A500 and an iPad 2. They are both great in their own way. Some things to note:
Ability to expand the storage on the A500 is nice
The screen dimensions on the A500 are better for movies
It's fun to customize the A500
I continue to have problems with wifi here and there on the A500
The screen on the iPad is nicer
The iPad software is MUCH 'snappier'. I'm amazed how slow the A500 is when I use it.
The big name apps for the iPad are generally better. The developers just seem to concentrate more on that platform. For example, the Twitter app for the iPad is nicer.
That said, running iPhone apps on the iPad sucks. The 'little app in the center of the screen' thing is awful. Resizing the app is even worse.
They are both good for their own reasons. If it helps, I use my iPad more than my A500.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 equalizes the screens (better screen than the A500 IMO). I would lean that way if the ability to expand storage isn't an issue.
Funny thread, and the OP hasn't returned to the scene of the crime.
IMHO, if you really have to ask the question....then by all means....PLEASE KEEP THE I pad!
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Funny thread, and the OP hasn't returned to the scene of the crime.
IMHO, if you really have to ask the question....then by all means....PLEASE KEEP THE I pad!
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I've been reading the responses.
I'm not here to argue.
And by the way, it is an iPad 1.
If I have to ask the question, please keep the iPad? You are making it seem like I dont know about Android.
I've been with Android since the G1. and I've mentioned my phone is a rooted Moto Atix.
Wond3r said:
I've been reading the responses.
I'm not here to argue.
And by the way, it is an iPad 1.
If I have to ask the question, please keep the iPad? You are making it seem like I dont know about Android.
I've been with Android since the G1. and I've mentioned my phone is a rooted Moto Atix.
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Thank you for proving my point, and I stand by my post. If you have to ask the question, you really need to keep it and NOT get the A500.
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Thank you for proving my point, and I stand by my post. If you have to ask the question, you really need to keep it and NOT get the A500.
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Thats not really proving any point.
Thanks for your input though.
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Thats not really proving any point.
Thanks for your input though.
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I hope not all a500 users are immature.
Actually - judging by the rest of the replies, I know not all of them are.
Again, thank you for your input.
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I hope not all a500 users are immature.
Actually - judging by the rest of the replies, I know not all of them are.
Again, thank you for your input.
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I like the fact I can run my 2.5" HDD on my Iconia A501, Makes watching movies, moving files a whole lot easier than having to connect to a pc, use all the inner storage and not be able to expand... I also have a 32Gb sd card for all the "must have" shows I like to watch.... That gives me 64Gb storage... Include the 1 Tb drive I attach, take that Ipad....
Oh, and the other thing I found, having a friend with an Ipad, he wanted to download a game I showed him on my android device. It actually cost him to buy the app that Android was giving away for free... The fact I can load apps from elsewhere other than downloading off the market is also a big plus (its nice to keep a copy of the apk files elsewhere)... Something else to think about.
hmmmmm i still think my Xoom is very relevant and will better suit me for what i use a tablet for. heck my first gen kindle fire is still relevant (for me anyways)
what are your thoughts?
http://www.apple.com/ipad-mini/overview/
My thoughts are that comparing the too is like comparing oranges and carrots. The only thing they have in common is the color orange (they're both tablets).
They are damn near 2 generations apart tech wise and 2 completely different form factors.
exactly, thats what i meant, no need to get something new like the ipad mini (or any ipad) when my xoom still fits the bill. apple has always innovated, now with the mini, they are trying to get in on the smaller tablet market that Google and Amazon have already taken the lead in
ever since the world lost steve jobs, apple has taken a slide downward, pretty soon they will be irrelevant
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exactly, thats what i meant, no need to get something new like the ipad mini (or any ipad) when my xoom still fits the bill. apple has always innovated, now with the mini, they are trying to get in on the smaller tablet market that Google and Amazon have already taken the lead in
ever since the world lost steve jobs, apple has taken a slide downward, pretty soon they will be irrelevant
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Honestly it sounds like you just want to chat about how Apple is bad and the Xoom is still a masterpiece (its not - its quite outdated). Apple is still quite relevant to the mobile market (phones and tablets). They make solid products with good hardware, have fantastic marketing, provide options and on the tablet front, are destroying Android in terms of app support (the OS, IMO, is **** compared to Jellybean). Regardless, they're not going anywhere, no matter how hard you pray.
I love my Xoom but it is far far out of date. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10 and may very well upgrade to that.
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Also, while the iPad Mini is the thing everyone is talking about....I think the updated iMac and the Macbooks were much more newsworthy.
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Also, while the iPad Mini is the thing everyone is talking about....I think the updated iMac and the Macbooks were much more newsworthy.
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I agree with this and on a different note the surface isn't to shabby looking either. This is my favorite time of the year.
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Honestly it sounds like you just want to chat about how Apple is bad and the Xoom is still a masterpiece (its not - its quite outdated). Apple is still quite relevant to the mobile market (phones and tablets). They make solid products with good hardware, have fantastic marketing, provide options and on the tablet front, are destroying Android in terms of app support (the OS, IMO, is **** compared to Jellybean). Regardless, they're not going anywhere, no matter how hard you pray.
I love my Xoom but it is far far out of date. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10 and may very well upgrade to that.
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you may be right, but it is just an opinion, never liked apple, but its not like i look for opportunities to bash them....no wait :cyclops:
and yeah as long as the Nexus 10 isn't built by LG i might get one too
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thats true as well
To be honest my xoom2 sound way better than mini ipad mini.
Cubanluke88 said:
Honestly it sounds like you just want to chat about how Apple is bad and the Xoom is still a masterpiece (its not - its quite outdated). Apple is still quite relevant to the mobile market (phones and tablets). They make solid products with good hardware, have fantastic marketing, provide options and on the tablet front, are destroying Android in terms of app support (the OS, IMO, is **** compared to Jellybean). Regardless, they're not going anywhere, no matter how hard you pray.
I love my Xoom but it is far far out of date. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10 and may very well upgrade to that.
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A wolf in sheep clothing is what you are, I see no apple product in your signature all android and yet you downgrade android, Our two year old Xoom run rings around both the iPad2 and mini. 4.3 ratio is so sixties, Bless Motorola who invented cellphone all others are just carbon copy, you mention out of date and yet mini a week old is selling itself on dual band radio when we all know the Xoom was the first tablet to incorperate it. The mini is in Colby league not Xoom..
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A wolf in sheep clothing is what you are, I see no apple product in your signature all android and yet you downgrade android, Our two year old Xoom run rings around both the iPad2 and mini. 4.3 ratio is so sixties, Bless Motorola who invented cellphone all others are just carbon copy, you mention out of date and yet mini a week old is selling itself on dual band radio when we all know the Xoom was the first tablet to incorperate it. The mini is in Colby league not Xoom..
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So now I need to be an Apple user in order to have an unbiased opinion? Please tell me where I downgraded Android wrongly rather than just shrugging it off. Android tablet app support is atrocious. Its getting better and its nice that Android apps "scale" upward but in doing so, a lot of the screen real estate of a tablet is simply not used efficiently. You can compare it to mobile websites. Have you ever looked at a mobile website on a desktop? They look horrible because they're not using the screen real estate efficiently. With all that said, the user interface of the OS itself and the features and speed have finally surpassed that of iOS.
And yes, the Xoom in the tech world of tablets is very out of date. Hardware tech moves fast; its still relevant and useful but the Tegra 2 processor is simply not up to par with newer chips. One of the main Eos devs even said in their nightly thread that the Xoom is old (coming up on 2 years) and people should start looking to upgrade. It was a bit of an off hand comment (as in I don't think they plan on dropping support any time soon) but people were discussing speed and such and the simple fact is the Xoom's hardware is holding it back from taking full advantage of Jellybean (its fast but not nearly as fast as a Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 7 with Project Butter).
Back to my original point, as I stated, comparing the Xoom and Mini is silly and to me comes across as nothing more than a fishing attempt to bash on Apple and circle jerk about the Xoom with other Xoom owners. They are two products that simply don't compare well to one another. A proper comparison would be the Nexus 7 and the Mini; they are much closer in release dates and are actually of similar sizes and targeted at similar customers.
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so what would be the point of buying an ipad mini?
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People that want a smaller tablet and are already invested in the iOS arena or simply prefer it? Tablets that are 9.6" or 10.1" aren't for everyone, just as phones that are 4.7" aren't for everyone. I know quite a few iPhone users who never got iPads because they saw the device as too large and cumbersome. The Mini introduces another option for iOS users at a different price and size.
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In my opinion the xoom is still a far superior device to any of Apple's closed system devices and will be for some time to come.
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In my opinion the xoom is still a far superior device to any of Apple's closed system devices and will be for some time to come.
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And why do you think that?
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In my opinion the xoom is still a far superior device to any of Apple's closed system devices and will be for some time to come.
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great point, open source has always been better at providing better and faster support to products which make them more reliable and longer lasting. look how many old PCs are running linux
on the flip side, proprietary software like drivers from nvidia (on my LG phone) take forever to get updates. LG/Nvidia and T-Mobile have only just recently upgraded my phone to GB 2.3.4 (back in March) where as my Xoom is running the latest JB
I think that apple products are great! They give people who are new to the computer world a chance to learn hope to use a computer...
That being said anything beyond being new to computers in respect to acceptable customer support, software support, getting the most out of your device, power, and topping on the cake ethical business operation, you don't find it in apple.
I won't go to far into detail and try not to hate on apple to much, but I think that if you want a device that actually allows you to fully use the hardware then you have to look elsewhere. I also think that you pay far to much money for devices in that brand since they already get their hardware cheap as hell. sure they build solid hardware, but its not always high end, nor is it reasonably priced.
I bought a laptop from an off brand that was twice the power of the average apple computer today and half the price. I received it a year ago.
Ok enough with apple. Sorry that organization irritates me.
So on the xoom. I bought mine fairly recently. Some of the things I love about it is that it's build Pretty solid. I feel like I could throw this thing at a friggin wall! People claim the hardware is outdated, I don't agree. My xoom has EOS Wingray 153 currently and doesn't have any issues at all with lag. The only problems I've had with running apps is that I can't find enough that I want to use. That is to say ones relevant for me to use. I have about 64GB to fill and not enough apps to fill it with
Now this isn't as if I'm saying there aren't enough apps made for android to be honest I think there are plenty. I like that you don't need to use a ca authority to make an app attachable to the store, and I like that they don't pull root apps from the market. I also haven't heard of people being sued for hacking android devices.
I haven't been able to take full advantage of my xoom hardware yet, though it's mostly due to a lack of trying. I mostly use it for a few games and internet use when I'm not home. I also do ebooks and PDFs as well as ssh and some research. To say the xoom is outdated is in my opinion grossly wrong. The software that does a pretty damn good job of efficiently using the hardware, and I've yet to see an app thus far have trouble functioning properly or have any sort of lag. Well I did once, but that could have been so to a new build I literally just installed it also could have just been the app. In any case I no longer have lag.
To close to the question of iPad mini vs xoom. If you have a reason to use something smaller than a xoom then by all means support a terrible organization, but otherwise I think the xoom will be good for me for another year.
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I hate Apple's policies for market share! But over hating their policies I hate those iSheeps who keeps saying that their iPoops of them is better than Android, which was com proved by Geekbench that it's the opposite! For all those saying that Xoom is better than any Apple device, it's a lie, BUT even with it's 2 y.o. hardware it's only worse than the new iPhone 5, which is worse to GNote 10.1, GNote 2 and GS3! And there's still missing the new devices that'll come now, like RAZR HD, HTC One X+, Xperia T, etc... And on the iPad mini topic, all I can say is that it's not worth in ANY F-Word WAY! N7 is the best 7" tablet you'll see, Xoom 2 ME is way better too! But I else think that's not fair compare a 7" tablet to a 10" one, they were built for different functions and there's no way you can be fair to both sides when comparing utility, for example: I have my Xoom, which is amazing, and today I used a little my mom's Xoom 2 ME tablet, and it was way better to read than my 10.1" screen! That's why I'm keeping my Xoom and getting a Nexus 7, as I don't need another high end 10" tablet for now and need a tablet for better mobility.
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OK, I'm pretty sure there are former iPhone users who have switch to the GN2. I'm one of them and would like hear from those of you who have made the jump and how the experience has been so far.
Having been a loyal iPhone user since 2008, I finally ditched my iPhone 5 in favour of the Note 2 LTE. Its now 3 weeks and I don't really miss much from the iPhone. There's one or two minor things which I kinda wished my GN2 could do like the iPhone does but nothing serious enough that will make me regret the change.
The GN2 is the first Android smartphone that has really gotten me smitten! I had thoughts of making the switch before and tried out some Android devices but nothing caught my attention back then. The iPhone 5, though a great smartphone, has lost its edge. Aesthetically, it's a beautiful device and will be loved by millions but the user experience remains the same, the wow factor is not there anymore and I was expecting a larger screen than the 4". Being somewhat disappointed with the iPhone 5 and having seen all the marketing hype about the GN2, I checked it out and bought it within minutes! Actually, the decision was made before I even got my hands on it!
The GN2's hardware coupled with JB is the most smoothest experience I have had so far from an Android device! IMO the experience is in no way inferior to iPhone/iOS. In fact, it beats iOS in many places! It's also opened up a new world for me! Sometimes the experience may not be as polished or as elegant as the iOS but theres plenty to make up for that and I am sure that Android is very close to becoming a perfect platform. Theres really nothing for me to complain about the GN2, its just a excellent device in so many ways and there is so much more we can do with it (I've not even rooted it yet!). My only complaints are:
1. The Android ecosystem, its getting there but not quite yet. The fragmentation is a real issue given the amount of Android devices on the market. Not all apps will work seamlessly and it is only those dedicated developers who keep rolling out updates will to be able to meet the needs of every device. Those types of developers are few and I hope this improves over the course of time.
2. The issue of receiving latest firmware updates. Obviously, if its a Google device then updates are very fast. I just hope that in future the smartphone manufacturers can effectively improve 'the time to market' for updates.
cosinav said:
OK, I'm pretty sure there are former iPhone users who have switch to the GN2. I'm one of them and would like hear from those of you who have made the jump and how the experience has been so far.
Having been a loyal iPhone user since 2008, I finally ditched my iPhone 5 in favour of the Note 2 LTE. Its now 3 weeks and I don't really miss much from the iPhone. There's one or two minor things which I kinda wished my GN2 could do like the iPhone does but nothing serious enough that will make me regret the change.
The GN2 is the first Android smartphone that has really gotten me smitten! I had thoughts of making the switch before and tried out some Android devices but nothing caught my attention back then. The iPhone 5, though a great smartphone, has lost its edge. Aesthetically, it's a beautiful device and will be loved by millions but the user experience remains the same, the wow factor is not there anymore and I was expecting a larger screen than the 4". Being somewhat disappointed with the iPhone 5 and having seen all the marketing hype about the GN2, I checked it out and bought it within minutes! Actually, the decision was made before I even got my hands on it!
The GN2's hardware coupled with JB is the most smoothest experience I have had so far from an Android device! IMO the experience is in no way inferior to iPhone/iOS. In fact, it beats iOS in many places! It's also opened up a new world for me! Sometimes the experience may not be as polished or as elegant as the iOS but theres plenty to make up for that and I am sure that Android is very close to becoming a perfect platform. Theres really nothing for me to complain about the GN2, its just a excellent device in so many ways and there is so much more we can do with it (I've not even rooted it yet!). My only complaints are:
1. The Android ecosystem, its getting there but not quite yet. The fragmentation is a real issue given the amount of Android devices on the market. Not all apps will work seamlessly and it is only those dedicated developers who keep rolling out updates will to be able to meet the needs of every device. Those types of developers are few and I hope this improves over the course of time.
2. The issue of receiving latest firmware updates. Obviously, if its a Google device then updates are very fast. I just hope that in future the smartphone manufacturers can effectively improve 'the time to market' for updates.
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Samsung is one of the better partners that releases updates, so feel yourself fortunate! haha.
The iPhone 4s lost its luster a long time ago. I can't believe Apple didn't innovate anything here in the iPhone 5 that's really Noteworthy xD haha. I'm not a hater, I just think that there are so many other devices out there that are better than the iPhone, but if you look at my sig, I had a bunch of iPhones. I would return to Apple if they decide to make a competitive device one day. Until then, Android .
The Note 2 is probably the best device I've ever owned. No ifs or ands or buts. Hands down the best device. Battery life, screen size, camera, memory, speed.... EVERYTHING is just fantastic on this device! No complaints
Enjoy your device!
I have an iPhone 4 right now and I plan on getting the note 2 for Verizon as soon as I can I would have got the iPhone 5 if it was maybe 4 1/2" -5" or maybe had any new features except being faster I think a lot of people are going to switch from apple to android because of the lack of newness of the iPhone 5 maybe in the future I will go back
Most Android apps work fine whether you have a 4" or a 5.5" phone, whether you're still on froyo or on Jellybean. Apple increases size from 3.5" to 4" and the vast majority of apps in their store get letterboxed in the Iphone 5 until they get updated by their developers to support the new size. And then you come and say that Android is the one who has a fragmentation issue. You Apple folks never cease to crack me up
I am NEVER gonna ditch my iPhone 5 for Note 2. And don't ask this question in Android topic. The Android fanboys have more news and interest in iPhone than iPhone users, so there reply will be one eyed, most of them, kids especially.
On the other hand: Note 2 itself is a great device. If I were to choose between iPhone and Note 2, then I'd opt the latter.
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Most Android apps work fine whether you have a 4" or a 5.5" phone, whether you're still on froyo or on Jellybean. Apple increases size from 3.5" to 4" and the vast majority of apps in their store get letterboxed in the Iphone 5 until they get updated by their developers to support the new size. And then you come and say that Android is the one who has a fragmentation issue. You Apple folks never cease to crack me up
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+1!
Good move, Android + Samsung is the way to go right now.
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happy with my move to pass up on iphone5 coming from ip4 which served me really well for the past 2 years since i've had it.
had several blunders here and there including syncing facebook with contacts, removing ALL contacts after GMail contacts sync and my latest which was believing that (s**pid) Kies backs up applications and games!
my 1 month old GN2 is indeed the best phone for me! really spoiled with the big screensize and watching HD movies are bliss! :good:
only thing i miss in iphone is ability to leave my emails on the device after outlook DLs them. K9 Mail is messy IMO, so i'm wishing stock Email app will be updated in the future.
I've had every iPhone since the 3G, except for the 3GS which I skipped, and finally made the switch. I had the iPhone 5 for a month, but it just wasn't enough. The Note 2 just blows it away in every category. I still have my iPad, but I'm almost thinking about ditching it for a Nexus 10 or Note 10.1. I still love my iMac though!
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I've had every iPhone since the 3G, except for the 3GS which I skipped, and finally made the switch. I had the iPhone 5 for a month, but it just wasn't enough. The Note 2 just blows it away in every category. I still have my iPad, but I'm almost thinking about ditching it for a Nexus 10 or Note 10.1. I still love my iMac though!
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Personally I think that the ipad is better than any android tab but Android phones are far better than iphones.
Not sure why I think that but have owned an iphone and now have a galaxy tab 10.1 and an ipad 3 as well as this note 2.
I think that a tablet should be simple and intuitive so you can just pick it up and use it whatever age or level of competence you are. With all the customisation you can do with Android I just don't think that they can beat the ipad for that.
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Agree note 2 is awesome but samsung are a joke. Loved the s2. had s3 which is crap and so was orig note.
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Tomo1971 said:
Personally I think that the ipad is better than any android tab but Android phones are far better than iphones.
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OT: i concur! love my iPad. hope ipad 5 or whatever they'd decide to call it will have change in design, otherwise, it'll lose its charm just like the iphone line.
soo nice to have these wonderful toys this lifetime.
Tomo1971 said:
Personally I think that the ipad is better than any android tab but Android phones are far better than iphones.
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I agree, but it's mostly because of the head start Apple's had in tablets. The big problem with Android tablets is that there are big gaps in the availability of actual tablet apps. In fact the most annoying thing to me about Apple's iPad mini presentation was that they were actually right about that, but then they went and showed a bunch of Android phone apps running on the Nexus 7 that *do* have tablet versions! (Like TripAdvisor.) It made them look like they were lying, but there were so many better examples of apps that Android does not have good tablet versions of that they could have used for that demo.
But I think the iPad is the best built tablet out there and it has the most tablet apps. Most Android tablets are poorly made, or they're as expensive as the iPad but without the ecosystem that would let someone get away with charging those prices.
But phones are a different story. There are so many Android phones out there, and the best ones are light years ahead of the iPhone. The iPhone is still really well built but it's just too small and too constricting. I actually had an iPhone 3GS when it was new for one day, and I returned it. Couldn't deal with it; there's just too much Apple won't let you do. Somehow I mind that less on a tablet, which feel more like an appliance to me. A phone is a really personal thing, and I have to have mine set up just how I want it, and I like it to reflect my personality.
me too i came from iphone...
being honest, i loved my iphone4, eventually after a couple of years i wanted to sell it because i obviously got sick of staring at the same **** (including 4s, ipads and ipods) weather i themed and tweaked the **** out of them or not, it still wasn't enough; so i decided to take the plunge into getting the note, although i was gonna buy the nokia lumia 920.
So far so good, it is all confusing though still learning my way around - There are some things which i found easier on the iphone (maybe because i was used to it) for example:
- installing themes/tweaks via WINTERBOARD
- Having all games under one source ( installous )
- Cydia. Wasn't a day i wasn't on cydia
Off the top of my head, thats what i come up with and like i said maybe there are things like that, but i have been reading around and there doesn't seem to be stuff like that, maybe similar but not the same. so if anyone knows, please help.
But yeah, i was sick of spending hundreds and hundreds on an endless device with no real technology! and seeing as i have samsung tv's i can stream youtube, gallery stuff and music onto it which is amazing and doesn't cost what ever that ****ty apple tv costs
With all respect, why that limited, overpriced, overrated thing have to be part of a discussion in a Galaxy Note 2 forum, not to mention be a part of the thread's title ?
Will a moderator close this off-topic/useless thread?
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All, if you wanna talk iphone/ipad/apple...we have a sister site: http://iphone-developers.com/
If you wanna talk Android...you are here, but Thread Closed due to, I see a Flame flickering...
Thank You & Thread hard closed
In the August, 2013 issue of Consumer Reports the Galaxy Note 8.0 is rated #1 ahead of the iPad Mini in the "7 TO 8-INCH SCREEN TABLETS, WI-FI ONLY" category.
As it should be. Anyone who puts the iPad Mini first is either being paid by Apple, or delusional.
This issue of the magazine was the final reason for me buying this device to replace my iPad Mini.
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Awesome to hear. I switched from the Nexus 7. I found the 7 inch screen a little to small for me. This is my first Samsung product and I am completely happy with it. I have not even found a reason to root it yet :good:
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As it should be. Anyone who puts the iPad Mini first is either being paid by Apple, or delusional.
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That's not true FaeMinx, they could just be stupid.
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Clearly, someone who researches the products even a bit before buying would go for the Note 8.0. Also, most customers who take these surveys are included in this bracket.
The people buying the iPad Mini do it cause they find it pretty!!
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The fact that a mainstream media outlet like CR has rated this relatively lesser-known product as the "best" in its category is certainly refreshing. But lets not get all fanboy here. Everyone has different preferences, uses their devices differently, and therefore has a different reason for considering one tablet "better" of "best" versus another. I love my Note 8, but I'm not going to belittle others, because they made a different choice.
If a person is heavily invested in the iOS ecosystem (such as purchased apps); or if they are not tech savvy, and don't want to learn their way around a new OS, the iPad Mini might still be a good choice.
Yes, if you base your judgement purely on technical capabilities and specifications, the Note 8 is the clear winner. Or for people that prefer customization, instead of being force-fed most aspects of their device's interface. But not everybody cares about such things.
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If a person is heavily invested in the iOS ecosystem (such as purchased apps); or if they are not tech savvy, and don't want to learn their way around a new OS, the iPad Mini might still be a good choice.
Yes, if you base your judgement purely on technical capabilities and specifications, the Note 8 is the clear winner. Or for people that prefer customization, instead of being force-fed most aspects of their device's interface. But not everybody cares about such things.
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i agree. i'm not sure if i'll be getting my daughter an android tablet for two reasons:
1. i've already bought her a lot of apps on her ipad and don't want to buy them again on android
2. i don't want to share my contacts, emails, everything personal with her when i set up her android device under my account. at least with ios i can set up email and store accounts separately. i can do it with android, but that'll require me to either make a dummy acct for the play acct or lockdown some of the apps, which won't work if she needed to use any of those applications - unless some of you guys have any idea on sharing an android tablet with family without having to buy apps twice.
Maybe one day in the distant future we might just get the fabled 4.2 update with multiuser support...
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i had it on my gnex but never had to use it. does anyone know if it allows sharing apps btw users while locking down email/contacts/etcs from each other.
my s4 has 4.2.2 but no acct setting (other than the standard).
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Maybe one day in the distant future we might just get the fabled 4.2 update with multiuser support...
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Amen...
I tried the multi user set up on my Asus tf 300 pad with 4.2.1 but it made the tablet too slow. ... hopefully it's not the case with note 8 because of more ram and i/o read and write speeds
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madsquabbles said:
i had it on my gnex but never had to use it. does anyone know if it allows sharing apps btw users while locking down email/contacts/etcs from each other.
my s4 has 4.2.2 but no acct setting (other than the standard).
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You couldn't have had it on your Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 only supports multiuser on tablets, not phones. Unless maybe some custom ROM deb decided to shoehorn it into a ROM?
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Uh60m Pilot said:
Awesome to hear. I switched from the Nexus 7. I found the 7 inch screen a little to small for me. This is my first Samsung product and I am completely happy with it. I have not even found a reason to root it yet :good:
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I am also looking to swap my Nexus 7 for the Note 8, I am curious to know how the screen resolution compares? I think the Nexus shows very sharp text, one thing I love about it. After my brief ownership of a Galaxy Note 10.1 (with pretty awful blurry text) I am a bit sceptical. Would love to know your thoughts on this and any possible regrets on switching from N7 to the Note 8
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I am also looking to swap my Nexus 7 for the Note 8, I am curious to know how the screen resolution compares? I think the Nexus shows very sharp text, one thing I love about it. After my brief ownership of a Galaxy Note 10.1 (with pretty awful blurry text) I am a bit sceptical. Would love to know your thoughts on this and any possible regrets on switching from N7 to the Note 8
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While I havent tried the nexus 7 in great detail so cant compare, I do have a 10 inch tablet thats the same res as the note 10.1 and can say the difference between that and the 8.0 is great.
Best way to decide if its good enough for you is to look at the PPI figures...
Note 10.1 - 149
Note 8.0 - 213
nexus 7 - 216
Ipad Mini - 163
Ipad 2 - 132
Ipad retina - 264
As, you can see, the note 8.0 is much sharper than both the ipad mini and the note 10.1 almost identical to the Nexus 7 but not quite in retina display teritory.
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You couldn't have had it on your Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 only supports multiuser on tablets, not phones. Unless maybe some custom ROM deb decided to shoehorn it into a ROM?
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most likely you're right. i thought the gnex was my only 4.2.2 device (other than the s4) but my nook hd+ is running 4.2.2. i'll have to take a look at it an play around with it. i haven't turned it on since i've gotten the gn8.
Nexus 7 vs Note 8.0
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I am also looking to swap my Nexus 7 for the Note 8, I am curious to know how the screen resolution compares? I think the Nexus shows very sharp text, one thing I love about it. After my brief ownership of a Galaxy Note 10.1 (with pretty awful blurry text) I am a bit sceptical. Would love to know your thoughts on this and any possible regrets on switching from N7 to the Note 8
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Response moved to new thread called "Nexus 7 to Note 8.0. Thoughts after switching"
redpoint73 said:
The fact that a mainstream media outlet like CR has rated this relatively lesser-known product as the "best" in its category is certainly refreshing. But lets not get all fanboy here. Everyone has different preferences, uses their devices differently, and therefore has a different reason for considering one tablet "better" of "best" versus another. I love my Note 8, but I'm not going to belittle others, because they made a different choice.
If a person is heavily invested in the iOS ecosystem (such as purchased apps); or if they are not tech savvy, and don't want to learn their way around a new OS, the iPad Mini might still be a good choice.
Yes, if you base your judgement purely on technical capabilities and specifications, the Note 8 is the clear winner. Or for people that prefer customization, instead of being force-fed most aspects of their device's interface. But not everybody cares about such things.
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Very thoughtful comments. My son is extremely smart and tech sac savvy, yet he chose Apple versus Android. We have quite interesting discussions. We never can agree on which one is the best, so I've opted to leave it as it.
As a manager for a large corporation, I do have some experience in marketing, production and design. Apple has great products, but their demise will be their lack of diversity. Samsung has too many products in so many markets and Apple will never be able to catch them. As we can ask see, all tablets (tier 1) are reaching a point of saturation and there will be nothing else to add to them until a new product arises.
So my estimation is that Samsung and Android are here to stay and Apple has but a few years left before they become the next BlackBerry.
But why rub it in their faces? Let's just let then living their dreams. No harm.
JAG50
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madsquabbles said:
i agree. i'm not sure if i'll be getting my daughter an android tablet for two reasons:
1. i've already bought her a lot of apps on her ipad and don't want to buy them again on android
2. i don't want to share my contacts, emails, everything personal with her when i set up her android device under my account. at least with ios i can set up email and store accounts separately. i can do it with android, but that'll require me to either make a dummy acct for the play acct or lockdown some of the apps, which won't work if she needed to use any of those applications - unless some of you guys have any idea on sharing an android tablet with family without having to buy apps twice.
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Valid points.
First thing I would do is list the apps that you paid for on iOS you would want on Google Play. I've seen that often the Apple App Store charges for apps that are free on Google Play. Once you've determined which apps those were, that would give you some concrete data to make a decision.
Once multi-user profiles are set one can "define" privileges. Or so I've read. I've not needed to do this myself but it appears others have.
HTH
FaeMinx said:
As it should be. Anyone who puts the iPad Mini first is either being paid by Apple, or delusional.
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Remember the "i" in ipad means idiot.