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**CONVERTERS and PROFILES**

Lets have a nice, usefull thread to help us all achieve that sweet HD viewing that was oohh soo easy to attain (slight sarcasm)
regardless when/if we will get a codec update or a app redone for tegra usage to make things easier...lets lend a helpful hand
Please provide a *tested* converter program and its profile for 720p or even higher(if possible) video playback.
Thank you and god bless Antarctica

I have no HD-content to test with, but I'm currently encoding Avatar from a DVD using Handbrake following the guidelines in this posting.
Will post my results.

Those who are switching to ipad2..no offense guys, but u have to look further than ur nose.

DarkDvr said:
Those who are switching to ipad2..no offense guys, but u have to look further than ur nose.
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Um what.
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DarkDvr said:
Those who are switching to ipad2..no offense guys, but u have to look further than ur nose.
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yeah man, that one went over my head/nose

I'm currently using Handbrake and using the Apple 2TV preset and its working fine. I don't plan on changing since its easier to just have one preset and using the same file with my Ipad, Xoom, and Apple 2TV.

Yes to HandBrake.
Also used DVD Fab8 Video Converter/MP4/genericMP4-h264. Used single pass, made filesize 4000mb, and make sure to use the stereo or Dolby II setting for audio.

Speaking of Handbreak, that app is not shy. Thought my i7 was going to burst into flames.

I've used Handbrake to encode from a DVD but I haven't gotten past the trying out different settings phase. When I get home I will have to post the settings I've come up with that worked for me.
Dave
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Im using Handbrake. Picture is good, but the mouthing is just slightly off. I've tried 3 different profiles, but can't seem to get the mouthing right.
1. Just using the Universal settings.
2. Av Bitrate 4000 Codec AAC (Faac) Samplrate 44.1 bitrate 128 and DRC 0 Motion Est Meth - Diamond
3. Av Bitrate 2200 Codec AAC (Faac) Samplerate 48 Bitrate 160 and DRC 4 Motion Est Meth - Diamond
These have all come from diff posts I've seen from others. Anyone got the mouthing on?

AppleTV2 preset works with the native video player, except for some choppiness. The instructions posted in my link above didn't work at all, not even on my PC with VLC.
AVI's play just fine with RockPlayer.

yeah but 720p..is so hard to achieve

Slimgym20 said:
Im using Handbrake. Picture is good, but the mouthing is just slightly off. I've tried 3 different profiles, but can't seem to get the mouthing right.
1. Just using the Universal settings.
2. Av Bitrate 4000 Codec AAC (Faac) Samplrate 44.1 bitrate 128 and DRC 0 Motion Est Meth - Diamond
3. Av Bitrate 2200 Codec AAC (Faac) Samplerate 48 Bitrate 160 and DRC 4 Motion Est Meth - Diamond
These have all come from diff posts I've seen from others. Anyone got the mouthing on?
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I use #3 and it works great. Videos are clear.
And depending on the source resolution you may or may not get full screen.
BTW, these are converted from 7GB+ MKV files.

I have tried converting some 720 shows with handbrake under the appletv2 settings as mp4 qqplayer was unable to see the file, Rockplayer Light was able to play the file with slight video lag, and audio lag.
I also tried using e.mote's script http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11768975&postcount=8 and it produced unusable file for both players
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I was also able to try out dvdcatalyst you can grab a free trial here http://www.tools4movies.com/ This has been the best converter so far, it was a simple setup and has a dedicated xoom profile. granted i have only tried one video so far but it looks to be promising

I as well tried the AppleTV2 preset and saw desirable results.
Nice since I am already encoding everything for ATV2 anyway

Rip DVD's

Can someone recommend a program to rip/convert DVD's?
If you have, how large are the movie files?

I've been using DVD Catalyst and it works just fine.

Handbrake
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DVDFab is my savior.. its up to you how large a movie will be depending on quality or file type.

Dvd catalyst is my fav
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rpavich said:
I've been using DVD Catalyst and it works just fine.
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+1
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Handbreak or DVDFab

DVD Catalyst
I am using DVD Catalyst!! It is the best $9.95 I have spent!! Recommend it!

jadesse said:
Can someone recommend a program to rip/convert DVD's?
If you have, how large are the movie files?
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I use WinX DVD Ripper Platinum. Got the license for free during one of their promotions.
1GB will cover about 1h40m of content at 1800 kbps video with 160 kbp stereo audio.

Using DVD Catalyst what device should I use. I tried the Motorola Xoom but movie will not play. Am I missing something.
Resolution: 1280x800
Video: 1500 Kbps
Sound: 128 Kbps
Mode: Stereo

has dvd catalyst been updated to reflect the improvement in video play back in honeycomb 3.1?

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Using DVD Catalyst what device should I use. I tried the Motorola Xoom but movie will not play. Am I missing something.
Resolution: 1280x800
Video: 1500 Kbps
Sound: 128 Kbps
Mode: Stereo
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That's what i use Xoom HQ2 but the DVD Catalyst site has directions on how to find what works best...really it's trial and error starting with the lowest quality that you will find acceptable.

keroppilee said:
has dvd catalyst been updated to reflect the improvement in video play back in honeycomb 3.1?
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Not yet. I've been working on it, but from what I have seen, I can't see a difference in quality. Some extra options can be enabled, but I am already getting great quality. It might save 100Kbps or so though.
jadesse said:
Using DVD Catalyst what device should I use. I tried the Motorola Xoom but movie will not play. Am I missing something.
Resolution: 1280x800
Video: 1500 Kbps
Sound: 128 Kbps
Mode: Stereo
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Just use one of the Xoom profiles, and it should work just fine. However, if you changed some settings, or are trying to convert things like Digital Copy video files, you might run into complications.
Please have a look in the Android section on my website. If you can't find anything there that might help you, let me know what you are actually trying to convert.
Without knowing that, the only suggestion I can offer is to update to the beta. Information on how to do that is also listed on the website.

Handbrake always causes my computer to crash.
I bought DVD Catalyst today after reading this thread and have already ripped several movies quickly and easily. Took a minute to install, zero time to figure out how to use it, cost only 10 bucks and ripped a movie in no time http://www.tools4movies.com/

And I bought it using my paypal. That's always a huge plus for me.

dvdcatalyst said:
Not yet. I've been working on it, but from what I have seen, I can't see a difference in quality. Some extra options can be enabled, but I am already getting great quality. It might save 100Kbps or so though.
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High profile h.264 is more computationally intensive to encode and decode, but theoretically saves on file size for the same quality.
Is your product actually upscaling the 480p DVD source to 1280x800? That seems like an incredible waste of space.
sassafras

sassafras_ said:
High profile h.264 is more computationally intensive to encode and decode, but theoretically saves on file size for the same quality.
Is your product actually upscaling the 480p DVD source to 1280x800? That seems like an incredible waste of space.
sassafras
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The quality also depends greatly on the source. With DVDs as a source it might shave off 100 MB or so, which is something that in my opinion doest justify the reduction in speed and possible performance issues on the device itself.
While DVD Cat has the capability to upscale video, it actually keeps the original resolution of the video by default if the selected resolution in the device profile is higher. Having the upscaling done by the video player is much more efficient.

dvdcatalyst said:
The quality also depends greatly on the source. With DVDs as a source it might shave off 100 MB or so, which is something that in my opinion doest justify the reduction in speed and possible performance issues on the device itself.
While DVD Cat has the capability to upscale video, it actually keeps the original resolution of the video by default if the selected resolution in the device profile is higher. Having the upscaling done by the video player is much more efficient.
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I agree with you on both accounts.
High profile savings are of much more benefit with large frame sizes (720p and up) where the hit in encoding time is offset by that reduction in file size.
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Earlier in the thread it seemed to me that someone had implied that your software was upscaling the video. I was getting ready to launch into a diatribe on the futility and ludicrousness of such a choice.
sassafras

it is a question I receive daily. I have numerous posts on the subject on my website as well as in the user guide and faq. The setting to enable upscaling is there, but it is not enabled by default. It only serves a purpose if you really need your videos to have that specific resolution.

Does DVD Catalyst also convert videos? I have a video that it to massive and must have to many fps i suppose because it skips. I tried covering it to a small file to play on my HTC Inspire with Hamster soft but after 3 hours it is only 15% done. I tried to convert it with DVD Catalyst but all it did after an hour was create a file consisting of 0 bytes.

Movie resolution and bitrate?

At what resolution and bitrate do you encode your movies for Note or similar mobile devices?

Okay, I encoded Kung Fu Panda into x264/AAC with Handbrake. I chose 800kbps as average bitrate and 128 as average audio bitrate, encoded with 2 pass + turbo first pass at a resolution of 1280 x 540, it's about 1:32 hours and it came out to be 615MB. I'm very space conscious as I don't have a lot of space considering the amount of crap I want to put into the Note, but this seems quite good.
EDIT : Hmm...800kbps is indeed a bit too low for this resolution, I'm going to try 1000kbps.

encode?
Direct transfer and go.

kersh said:
encode?
Direct transfer and go.
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Each of my movie is about 8-10GB and I got more than 20 of them. Yeah right.

Dragooon123 said:
Okay, I encoded Kung Fu Panda into x264/AAC with Handbrake. I chose 800kbps as average bitrate and 128 as average audio bitrate, encoded with 2 pass + turbo first pass at a resolution of 1280 x 540, it's about 1:32 hours and it came out to be 615MB. I'm very space conscious as I don't have a lot of space considering the amount of crap I want to put into the Note, but this seems quite good.
EDIT : Hmm...800kbps is indeed a bit too low for this resolution, I'm going to try 1000kbps.
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I would just use m720p 1-2GB for the space concious ones.
For me 3-4 movies of 2-2.5GB each are spot on. Space wise.
And another 16-32GB microSD is a must this days.

I have a 1080p MKV with a video bitrate of 9,500kbps and it plays fine on my SGSII and Note

NZtechfreak said:
I have a 1080p MKV with a video bitrate of 9,500kbps and it plays fine on my SGSII and Note
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That is not my question, I'm looking for an optimal setting where the movies look good without using too much space.

NZtechfreak said:
I have a 1080p MKV with a video bitrate of 9,500kbps and it plays fine on my SGSII and Note
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Wow! Incredible!!

Dragooon123 said:
That is not my question, I'm looking for an optimal setting where the movies look good without using too much space.
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Pretty subjective thing though wouldn't you say? Hard for anyone else to advise you on what the right rate is for you. Videos I have at ~7000kbps total bitrate look OK to me, so maybe start there and do a few brief encodes of the same thing at 5 and 3mbps and see how they look to you.
Others might be interested in this, since they will come here to see information on video playback:

[Q] Video conversion

Hi,
Can anyone recommend any video conversion software for the nexus 7's 7 inch screen.

There's Mediacoder and hanbrake.

I second Handbrake.

Thanks!

MediaCoder is my favourite. It's really fast and has sooo many options.
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I actually like Freemake. http://www.freemake.com/
It's free lol there's presets but you can also customize the resolution.

Can anyone suggest general settings for converting videos? Googling says to use Ipod settings? 1280x800 res? Thanks for any input

Questions go in the Q&A section

AtropineNa said:
Can anyone suggest general settings for converting videos? Googling says to use Ipod settings? 1280x800 res? Thanks for any input
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Depends on how big a file you want. Id start with 640x360 at 1.5 mbps bitrate and go from there. I find this setting to be good enough quality at a good file size
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I tried this MediaCoder. It is ad ridden and very slow. I'd rather just remux with Wild Media Server, it takes a few minutes.

I am using Quick media Converter, and there are roughly 1000 options,
so lets start with something simple:
What codec and output file type (format) should I choose? I am guessing 16:9 aspect ratio?
Thanks!

You'll want to keep the same aspect ratio the video you're converting has. Haven't used Quick media Converter, so can't offer any specific help for it, sorry!
Could be best to try a few different settings with a short video clip to see what works best - saves having to convert a full episode, film or whatever you're converting.

Why bother converting the video file when you can use an app like MX Player that can handle most video formats ?:silly:

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Why bother converting the video file when you can use an app like MX Player that can handle most video formats ?:silly:
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MX player is nice for a bit, but I am much more excited for vlc to drop it's beta tags. MX is to buggy and finnicky for my palate.

rmm200 said:
I am using Quick media Converter, and there are roughly 1000 options,
so lets start with something simple:
What codec and output file type (format) should I choose? I am guessing 16:9 aspect ratio?
Thanks!
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Suggest Handbrake and start with an iPad preset then adjust as follows:
MP4 container
ACC sound (stereo)
h.264 video codec , level 4.1 or lower. Maybe level 3.x to start to check for compatibility.
Audio
I suggest 128 kbit/sec with some Dynamic range compression (x2) and audio normalization - assuming you are using a movie source
For a 1080p or 720p source I would recommend setting 1280 pixel width, keep aspect ratio, and allow the converter to adjust the (output) height to be correct.
I would suggest 1400 kbit/sec for the video encode and then try higher bit rates if you like as there may be an upper bit rate limit for the hardware decoder on the N7.

Thank you!
That really covers what I was looking for.
Converting my ripped movies will keep me busy until I get my tablet.

htcsens2 said:
Suggest Handbrake and start with an iPad preset then adjust as follows:
MP4 container
ACC sound (stereo)
h.264 video codec , level 4.1 or lower. Maybe level 3.x to start to check for compatibility.
Audio
I suggest 128 kbit/sec with some Dynamic range compression (x2) and audio normalization - assuming you are using a movie source
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I was with you up until the last bit.
Avoid dynamic compression and normalisation, there's really no need.
I took Avatar from a BRD down to 37GB MKV with make MKV then used Handbrake to take that file down to a 3.69GB .MP4 file.
Took about 2 hours to do but the film looks, plays and sounds great on the N7

[Q] Video Converter for N4 formats

Guys what's a good video converter (free/paid) for converting Bluray/regular movies to a format that's perfect for Nexus 4 screen size?
Lemme know. Thanks!

Handbrake, perfect for any situation.
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I don't think you need 1. Just download MX player and it should handle the format very well. I used MX on my Galaxy Nexus to play some 720p mkv and it looked really gorgeous. Can't wait to watch Homeland on my Nexus 4.

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I don't think you need 1. Just download MX player and it should handle the format very well. I used MX on my Galaxy Nexus to play some 720p mkv and it looked really gorgeous. Can't wait to watch Homeland on my Nexus 4.
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The file themselves are too big, so converting them to a smaller file helps.
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Freemake! It's free, sufficiently good for the small screen, and you can use it for just about any device/situation you can imagine. That, and it's brain dead simple with a pleasing modern interface. You should check it out...
http://www.freemake.com/free_video_converter/.
But, yeah, I would only re-encode if the 720p files are too large, and as we know, space is surely a commodity on this device.

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The file themselves are too big, so converting them to a smaller file helps.
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Given the screen resolution of Nexus4 resizing will result in a much less enjoyable experience. Do you need to put 10G worth of video on your phone? Really?

wngmv said:
Given the screen resolution of Nexus4 resizing will result in a much less enjoyable experience. Do you need to put 10G worth of video on your phone? Really?
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If I don't reduce quality (not the resolution but the bitrate), one of my video will be of 10G.... There's a point beyond which quality is not noticeable on such small screen, so reducing the bitrate doesn't make much of a difference.
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I think I'll be perfectly happy playing 700 MB BR-RIPS with MXplayer! Thanks guys!

Just grab a 700MB or smaller torrent. A quick search for a popular movie showed blueray rips (BRRip) coming in at 450 MB. I have to think that futzing with ripping a 30-50GB blueray file in Handbrake easily equals the time, effort, and CPU cycles it would take for a typical 400-700MB torrent movie to download? While the screen may be HD on your phone, it is doubtful your eyes could discern much difference in quality on a 4-5 inch screen. The thought police may not like it if you are in the dying empire however.

Since I'm on a limited net connection which isn't very fast, it's cheaper and easier for me to convert videos than to re download them. Plus I got a beefy computer so it gets to flex it's muscle.
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Reason I don't play 720mkv on my iPad is a) space b) increased processing power and battery consumption, because it has to work harder