Sorry for noob question I'm changing roms often and wiping everything every time and installing all my apps from play store again and again. I know nandroid backups but if I back up my installed apps with a program like go back up, there would be any issues with my apps? Or should I do clean install every time I change a rom?
Most roms on the nexus 4 should be okay dirty flashing. Then if there are problems you can wipe everything.
If you backup your apps you should be able to reinstall them on the new rom no problems.
I always backup and restore my apps and data with Titanium Backup, without issue, I highly recommend the pro version as its a very useful app to have.
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Hello everybody, I am a proud Nexus 4 user and android user since February of 2013. I'm currently contemplating the use of custom ROMs and have decided on MIUI because it has amazing aesthetics and it really seems like a good ROM for me to use. I have several questions concerning using custom ROMs however:
1. I currently have root access on 4.2.2 and CWM Touch Recovery on my Nexus 4. How should I go about keeping my apps, contacts, information, etc., on my phone, but installing the new custom ROM? Is this even possible/ recommended?
2. I have many apps I rely on through my everyday uses of my phone, and I'm wondering if normal play store APK files will still be able to be used and installed on custom ROMs such as MIUI.
3. Are there any other small things I should note when installing custom ROMs?
4. Will I lose all my data if I install a custom ROM?
5. Is MIUI v5 recommended?
Thank you in advance.
nelsonlee96 said:
Hello everybody, I am a proud Nexus 4 user and android user since February of 2013. I'm currently contemplating the use of custom ROMs and have decided on MIUI because it has amazing aesthetics and it really seems like a good ROM for me to use. I have several questions concerning using custom ROMs however:
1. I currently have root access on 4.2.2 and CWM Touch Recovery on my Nexus 4. How should I go about keeping my apps, contacts, information, etc., on my phone, but installing the new custom ROM? Is this even possible/ recommended?
2. I have many apps I rely on through my everyday uses of my phone, and I'm wondering if normal play store APK files will still be able to be used and installed on custom ROMs such as MIUI.
3. Are there any other small things I should note when installing custom ROMs?
4. Will I lose all my data if I install a custom ROM?
5. Is MIUI v5 recommended?
Thank you in advance.
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1. Contacts -> Sync to google. Apps -> Helium / Titanium Backup.
Factory reset is recommended for switching ROM base. For same ROM base is generally not required unless you're told. Always make backups. Bootloop? Factory reset, restore afterwards.
2. Some apps may not working 100%, FC, etc.
3. Remember to install gapps?
4. Flashing the custom ROM will NOT wipe your app/data, but if factory reset is required, you would lose apps and data. However /sdcard will remain. Backup, backup, backup.
5. Nice UI, very iPhone-ish, may lag heavily sometimes, all operations just feel slower, some apps may not be working 100%.
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1. Contacts -> Sync to google. Apps -> Helium / Titanium Backup.
Factory reset is recommended for switching ROM base. For same ROM base is generally not required unless you're told. Always make backups. Bootloop? Factory reset, restore afterwards.
2. Some apps may not working 100%, FC, etc.
3. Remember to install gapps?
4. Flashing the custom ROM will NOT wipe your app/data, but if factory reset is required, you would lose apps and data. However /sdcard will remain. Backup, backup, backup.
5. Nice UI, very iPhone-ish, may lag heavily sometimes, all operations just feel slower, some apps may not be working 100%.
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Thank you very much for the quick response, this information has helped me greatly!
1-to save your info you can use titanium backup from the play store i dont have it myself so check out exactly what it backs up as for contacts those should be tied to your gmail account so no need to back those up also the internal storage is not wiped so you wouldn't need to backup pics/music but you can if you want to be safe
2- when i used miui i never had any issues using play store apks
3-as always have a backup also i dont know if this was just me but miui has a different file structure so not all of my pics in the albums app were showing up also my music was not showing as well
4- depends on what data you mean any installed apps will be erased but pics and music will still be there
5- I am personally more of a stock/ cym guy myself but if you like miui then by all means use it that's the fun of having a rooted device experiment!
Speaking of MIUI, if you just want to find out, or for fun, you can try my suggestion below:
1. Backup all user apps in Helium / Titanium Backup. Boot into recovery.
2. Do a Nandroid backup in CWM. ( This is important! )
3. Factory reset in CWM, flash MIUI and included gapps, fixes, mod, and whatever.
4. Reboot into MIUI, install Helium / Titanium Backup from Play store, restore your user apps.
Try it for a few days.
Like it? Keep it.
Don't like it? Restore Nandroid backup made earlier in CWM
@truth1675 hmm it seems like titanium backup is surely the way to go, I'll figure myself out through the app then! Thanks for the suggestion!
I think I have read somewhere about media such as music and pictures needing some mod to properly be displayed.
@ksilver89 ooh that looks like a very safe way to go! Thanks I'll surely follow it when I flash MIUI. I recently discovered how amazing nandroid recoveries are, they restore everything to what they used to be, it's awesome
I'm thinking about finally moving to 4.3 using a custom ROM (haven't decided which one yet). I have Titanium Backup Pro and plan to restore all my apps and settings after the upgrade. Is this process likely to end in a stable system? I don't have the time and patience to go through installing and configuring everything again, so if it's not a dependable process I might as well wait for the OTA update (and deal with Knox later...)
Thanks!
Don't worry, this is what I did all is fine.
Before anything, make a backup of your internal SD (just in case), EFS backup and all apps with Titanium. Then in Phils recovery select option to erase everything for new ROM flashing. I also did manual wipe of cache & dalvik just in case. Don't worry, your internal card won't be touched, but always better safe than sorry. Then flash MJ5 kernel, and finaly flash your chosen ROM. Then you can restore apps from titanium. I had like 2 apps that didn't work at all after restore, probably incompatible with 4.3. The system is stable 100%. Never had a reboot.
Thank you Dalanik. This is very encouraging to know.
oren_b said:
I'm thinking about finally moving to 4.3 using a custom ROM (haven't decided which one yet). I have Titanium Backup Pro and plan to restore all my apps and settings after the upgrade. Is this process likely to end in a stable system? I don't have the time and patience to go through installing and configuring everything again, so if it's not a dependable process I might as well wait for the OTA update (and deal with Knox later...)
Thanks!
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Did you try it? How did it go?
I had faced a lot of issues when I did this recently. My contacts and message apps started to crash. Could have been OS problem no idea, but I was losing all my messages and my contacts. Ended up using super backup and import/export feature. Then on TB i restored only the apps and not the settings or system data. Now its perfectly stable, no crashes whatsoever
If you erase phone completely for flashing, contacts will be restored automaticaly from google contacts, but I'm afraid SMSes won't. That's another thing worth backing up. I used SMS BAckup and Restore, works perfectly, although you can also use Titanium as well.
Hey guys,
Btw I'm new here and here is my question.
I am having a problem with nandroid backups using twrp. It involves the phone and its apps not working properly. So first I have a fully functional i9505 on its stock touchwiz and it's rooted. I decided to try out a custom rom, specifically a GPe rom by dandroid13. Did a nandroid backup, wiped what's needed then installed. I kinda liked the touchwiz more so I restored the backup. Of course wiping again first. Now apps are malfunctioning like twitter images not appearing, Real Racing 3 crashing at EA logo and unable to save photos from facebook. No data loss only malfunctioning phone. I already fixed this problem before but by wiping and reinstalling the stock os from sammobile. I don't want to lose all my data again so is there another way to fix this? In short twrp's backup isn't a 100% backup, it is a bit bugged.
Thanks in advance!
Hi guys, so basically I made a backup of my STOCK rom and then I installed CYANOGEN mod 12 on the phone... Realizing I totally forgot about my contacts I then backed it up and "restored" my old backup of the stock rom which is kitkat. to find that EVERYTHING "stops working" so I cant get to my contacts.
Now heres where I believe I went wrong. I used philz touchwiz and upon my process to flash the phone I did the system/factory reset option or something like that and it asks if you'd like to wipe the phone to install a new rom. I selected yes so I thought that I was good to go and did not go further into the other stuff... I flashed cyanogen mod on the phone and then it said it was "upgrading my apps" ok well thats fine, and it ran great and no issues.... So going back to my STOCK backup after that, all the apps just crash, which I assume is due to still having the old apps which are "upgraded" to lollipop but the apps of course crash on "kitkat"
So, I've read that in a backup it saves all your apps and stuff.. It should return your phone back to exactly where it was when you made the backup. so why is it i'm having the app issues? I guess I need to delete them right?
So what is the options i need to do to get rid of the apps and do a proper phone wiping prior to a backup so that when I load my kitkat backup that It runs fine as it should? Wipe cache? dalvik? /data?, etc etc.... will it erase the main phones memory as a hole or no?
let me know how to correct this, I greatly appreciate it. I've tried googling to no prevail so far.
If I'm understanding correctly, you're trying to restore your KitKat apps onto cm12.
If that is the case, it will keep force closing apps. When upgrading and moving from touchwiz based Roms to AOSP based Roms you can't just restore from backups, the environment is different.
So to carry your contacts, I suggest recreating the same KitKat environment by clean installing whatever ROM you had, let google play store install the apps, then restore your app data only using philz advanced restore option (make sure all other options besides app data or data are unchecked)
Once all are restored, make a backup of your contacts and SMS using call log back up and SMS backup apps from playstore.
Back up any app progress using adb like
#adb -backup -f appname.ab -obb -noapk com.android....
And then do a clean cm12 install, let play store install all apps and start restoring call log, SMS, and your app data.
This takes a while, but it is worth it!
Hi,
I had been using Temasek's Unofficial CM 11 ROM on my SM-N9005, then I decided to update to lollipop. So I backed up with Titanium Backup Pro, wiped data and dalvik and cache, flashed the AICP ROM, and now I'm trying to restore apps.
Restoring has been difficult in TB - it kept freezing/getting stuck on what seemed like random apps, and then it started to give me "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped" messages, which reappear a few seconds after they're dismissed.
I've somehow reached the point where if I install ONE more app (no matter what it is or whether it's restored from TB or downloaded from Play Store), I get "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped", but if I uninstall it I'm fine.
I know that apps should use more space with the ART runtime, but I have ~7GB of free storage so it can't be that. It seems silly, but is there some kind of app limit in lollipop that I'm unaware of?
Thanks in advance!
Actually the most important thing is what method are you using for restore? I mean are you using the only restore missing apps method or something else? Cause if you are using a method other than that then you will have problems.
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Hi,
I had been using Temasek's Unofficial CM 11 ROM on my SM-N9005, then I decided to update to lollipop. So I backed up with Titanium Backup Pro, wiped data and dalvik and cache, flashed the AICP ROM, and now I'm trying to restore apps.
Restoring has been difficult in TB - it kept freezing/getting stuck on what seemed like random apps, and then it started to give me "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped" messages, which reappear a few seconds after they're dismissed.
I've somehow reached the point where if I install ONE more app (no matter what it is or whether it's restored from TB or downloaded from Play Store), I get "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped", but if I uninstall it I'm fine.
I know that apps should use more space with the ART runtime, but I have ~7GB of free storage so it can't be that. It seems silly, but is there some kind of app limit in lollipop that I'm unaware of?
Thanks in advance!
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Did you take a nandroid backup? If so, Restore it after wiping then use TB to make an Apps Update.zip and copy it across to your ExtSDCard. THEN flash the ROM and GApps - i also flash SuperSU.zip at the same time. Then I start the phone and set up basic info. Then Back to Recovery and run the Apps.zip file.
I also use Nova Launcher so once in I restore the backup and Voila! I have almost everything back as I like it.
Another thing to check is the SDCardfix - you might want to download a zip of it and flash it while in Recovery. Once it is done and you are in LP version it seems OK, but I had to restore and older version of Temasek's ROM and promptly had SDCard access issues until I ran the fix again.
Thanks for your replies!
I am definitely doing "restore missing apps with data", though I am deselecting some of the apps (the very large ones) before restoring if that's an issue.
I didn't take a Nandroid backup unfortunately, I usually don't as I have no need for the data other than apps. Using an "apps.zip" sounds like an interesting approach - I might try that next time.
I'll try to work with the SD card - should I try to find and flash an LP version of SDCardFix or just use the KK one?
I tried reflashing the rom after a data, dalvik, cache, and /system wipe. Then I restored all apps, but the same problem came back, so the problem seems to be replicable.
Some people in the forums have suggested doing a "Fix permissions" in CWM, however that feature was obviously removed. There's a flashable zip that restores the feature apparently. Do you think I should try that or will it have no effect?
Thank you!