I'm thinking about finally moving to 4.3 using a custom ROM (haven't decided which one yet). I have Titanium Backup Pro and plan to restore all my apps and settings after the upgrade. Is this process likely to end in a stable system? I don't have the time and patience to go through installing and configuring everything again, so if it's not a dependable process I might as well wait for the OTA update (and deal with Knox later...)
Thanks!
Don't worry, this is what I did all is fine.
Before anything, make a backup of your internal SD (just in case), EFS backup and all apps with Titanium. Then in Phils recovery select option to erase everything for new ROM flashing. I also did manual wipe of cache & dalvik just in case. Don't worry, your internal card won't be touched, but always better safe than sorry. Then flash MJ5 kernel, and finaly flash your chosen ROM. Then you can restore apps from titanium. I had like 2 apps that didn't work at all after restore, probably incompatible with 4.3. The system is stable 100%. Never had a reboot.
Thank you Dalanik. This is very encouraging to know.
oren_b said:
I'm thinking about finally moving to 4.3 using a custom ROM (haven't decided which one yet). I have Titanium Backup Pro and plan to restore all my apps and settings after the upgrade. Is this process likely to end in a stable system? I don't have the time and patience to go through installing and configuring everything again, so if it's not a dependable process I might as well wait for the OTA update (and deal with Knox later...)
Thanks!
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Did you try it? How did it go?
I had faced a lot of issues when I did this recently. My contacts and message apps started to crash. Could have been OS problem no idea, but I was losing all my messages and my contacts. Ended up using super backup and import/export feature. Then on TB i restored only the apps and not the settings or system data. Now its perfectly stable, no crashes whatsoever
If you erase phone completely for flashing, contacts will be restored automaticaly from google contacts, but I'm afraid SMSes won't. That's another thing worth backing up. I used SMS BAckup and Restore, works perfectly, although you can also use Titanium as well.
So ive been using OmniROM 4.4 on my Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-19300 for over 6-7 months now (since around 22/11/2013). It has all been working as a treat. Two nights ago something seemed to of happened on my phone and few apps disappeared (they had the green android robot logo). I was also notified that some apps have updated. I am unsure what these apps were (my guess would be the googles apps; google books, google movies etc. because they were all next to each other in alphabetical order). So because of this i decided to turn my phone off. When i turned it back on, it would be stuck on the OmniROM Logo whilst booting up. It would be stuck on this for a few hours. So I left it over night. Then the next morning it had booted up and a error message popped up saying "Stystem UID's Inconsistent" with a button saying "I'm Feeling Lucky". So I clicked the button and unlocked the phone. Then the homescreen was black and blank. There was no background image, apps, widgets etc. However, I can access the notification bar. If i had any notifications, for an example a message on kik. I can click on it and it will take me to kik and it can use it as normal. When i click the home button it takes me back to a black blank screen.
So, My first reaction was to create a nandroid backup (of the black blank screen OmniROM) then wipe everything (data/factory, cache partition and dalvik cache) in CWM Recovery v6.0.4.4. After this I restored my old nandroid backup, this is my backup i created before i moved onto OmniROM so it was the Samsung galaxy s3 stock 4.1.2. So once i did this i was again greeted with the error message saying "Stystem UID's Inconsistent" with a button saying "I'm Feeling Lucky". So i clicked the button and set up my device. During this and after this Ive had about a billion pop up error messages saying "Unfortunately, the process com.google.process.gapps has stopped." and "Google books has stopped working" and it did this for all the other google apps. So its pretty clear that it must be something to do with Gapps (Correct me if i'm wrong please). Also, It did not allow me to get anything from the play store apart from twitter and rom manager. snapchat and the google app updates didn't work (that is all i have tried). I had error messages saying that i couldnt download it. I have tried installing gapps and OmniROM again and it works but i still get the error messages saying that gapps and google apps have stopped. I have also restored by nandroid backup of the omnirom (that I did before i wiped everything) and i still get the blank black homescreen.
So, I want to know whether it is gapps that has caused this? If so what do i need to do? Do i need to unistall it and install it again? How do i do that?
All I want is to go back to OmniROM and it works and this problem wont happen again. Also if i can get all my data (apps, pictures etc.) that i saved in my nandroid back that i did when i was on OmniROM (before i wiped everything) then that would be great!
I appreciate it very much if you have read this and helped me out.
Despite you have given lots of details, you didn't specify which GAPPS package you're using. Who's the maintainer of the package? Are you sure it's for 4.4.x?
Nonetheless, get the latest PA GAPPS package. As @TKruzze says on the official thread: "We consider these apps as important as our ROM. It is sad that the ROM scene deals with so many broken/outdated or buggy packages."
Lots of issues could be caused by a messy GAPPS package or a messy recovery.
Now I suggest doing the following:
1) Take a backup of user files (pics, music, etc...) and don't take backup of app data as that could be messy or corrupted or at least take the backup of app data but don't restore it.
2) Download the latest OmniROM nightly, SuperSU and PA GAPPS (stock package seems the one for you) and check the files' MD5 after you download to be 100% sure the files aren't corrupted.
3) Download the latest official TWRP. For the love of Android, it's been stated by OmniROM developers that it's the officially supported recovery.
4) Flash TWRP and do a full wipe (system, data, cache and both SD and internal memory).
5) Do a reboot to recovery after wiping then flash the ZIP's in this order: OmniROM > PA GAPPS > SuperSU (don't flash any custom stuff or addons for now).
6) Reboot into system and restore data gradually. Install most important apps and keep on monitoring your phone for abnormalities and make sure you clean up your SD and internal memory backups from any redundant files before you get them back on the phone (there should be a "clockworkmod" folder that's not needed).
7) All should be fine now.
Notes:
1) Uninstalling GAPPS can be done by wiping the system, cache and dalvik-cache then flashing the ROM again but I didn't suggest that as the data partition is probably already messy.
2) NANDROID backups are ZIP files, you can extract them and get some data manually. You've made a NANDROID on a bad state so you can alternatively restore that before doing any of the above and selectively backup data using Titanium Backup and the files using casual methods.
Hope that helps and sorry for it being long. But such issues are hard to tackle on and you'll be better off doing a clean install.
Happy flashing!
Overall, my S5 is working pretty well, but it has started doing something strange. A few times each day, I get a "Unfortunately, _____ has stopped" message. A few times, I've noticed that "travel wallpaper" is the app that has stopped. I've never tried to use that (whatever it is). I'm pretty sure "Google news stand" or something like that was the app sometimes, as well as other apps.
For a couple months, I've been rooted and use Titanium Backup to freeze some of the bloatware that I felt pretty sure I don't want (all from a list of "safe to remove" apps). I use Greenify on a few apps, but not the ones that are showing up in the error messages.
A week or so before I noticed these errors, I had installed a bad .apk. It seemed sketchy, so I quickly uninstalled it. I ran Clean Master and it found nothing bad. But I'm still thinking I might want to wipe my device. I'd kind of like to go through the process just to do it. I've been doing regular backups with Titanium and I can't think of anything on the phone that I can't restore from scratch.
Is there a best method for wiping and using Titanium Backup to restore?
Edit: "Wi-Fi Direct share" is another app that gets the error message.
Edit: I used Safestrap to backup immediately after I rooted. The phone was stable at that point and for a month after.
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Overall, my S5 is working pretty well, but it has started doing something strange. A few times each day, I get a "Unfortunately, _____ has stopped" message. A few times, I've noticed that "travel wallpaper" is the app that has stopped. I've never tried to use that (whatever it is). I'm pretty sure "Google news stand" or something like that was the app sometimes, as well as other apps.
For a couple months, I've been rooted and use Titanium Backup to freeze some of the bloatware that I felt pretty sure I don't want (all from a list of "safe to remove" apps). I use Greenify on a few apps, but not the ones that are showing up in the error messages.
A week or so before I noticed these errors, I had installed a bad .apk. It seemed sketchy, so I quickly uninstalled it. I ran Clean Master and it found nothing bad. But I'm still thinking I might want to wipe my device. I'd kind of like to go through the process just to do it. I've been doing regular backups with Titanium and I can't think of anything on the phone that I can't restore from scratch.
Is there a best method for wiping and using Titanium Backup to restore?
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Before you wipe your phone may I suggest that you unfreeze everything first, then see if you get the "Unfortunately...." message. If you stop getting that message then it is a pretty good chance that you have something frozen that an app or system needs to use. Wiping your phone and getting a fresh install of apps is always a good idea...if you have the time and inclination to do those type things. Installing apps from a backup is handy, but if you have a bad download/app install you will only be replicating the problem by installing from a back up. This is usually not a problem, but you never know. If you wipe, and have the time, try downloading the apps you want from Play Store to make sure you have the latest/fresh app. Yeah it is a PITA but you can be assured that the apps on your phone are the latest versions.
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Wiping your phone and getting a fresh install of apps is always a good idea
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I'll probably do that when I have a chance. Is there a particular method of wiping that is recommended?
I would like to restore my Nova Launcher home screen settings, Wanam settings, and any other customizations like that if possible.
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I'll probably do that when I have a chance. Is there a particular method of wiping that is recommended?
I would like to restore my Nova Launcher home screen settings, Wanam settings, and any other customizations like that if possible.
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Doing a Factory Reset is a good way to wipe your phone without touching your system apps. Or, if you have a custom recovery on your phone, you can do a full or partial wipe through recovery. I've used both methods and don't know if one way is any better than the other. You can save your current Nova setting to your SD card and restore after you have wiped. I don't use Wanam so I don't know about that app's settings and restore capability.
Immediately after I rooted, I made a backup with Safestrap. Titanium Backup has been backing up my apps and data.
Should I try to install the Safestrap recovery backup I made a couple months ago?
I did a lot of research before rooting, and so many people said how easy it was, etc. While using towelroot was super easy, learning how to correctly use Safestrap, etc. was not - especially since there were a couple error messages along the way and it didn't work quite how the info I gathered said it would (even the video from the Safestrap app page was not how most people set it up).
Regardless of what restore method you recommend, any info and helpful tips would be appreciated. I'm moving all my photos, videos, etc. to my computer, so there shouldn't be anything on the phone that I could not restore.
I saved my settings in Nova Launcher and Wanam. Hopefully, most of my customizations will restore from those settings - but I obviously all the icons won't return because some of the apps were not installed before the Safestrap backup.
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Immediately after I rooted, I made a backup with Safestrap. Titanium Backup has been backing up my apps and data.
Should I try to install the Safestrap recovery backup I made a couple months ago?
I did a lot of research before rooting, and so many people said how easy it was, etc. While using towelroot was super easy, learning how to correctly use Safestrap, etc. was not - especially since there were a couple error messages along the way and it didn't work quite how the info I gathered said it would (even the video from the Safestrap app page was not how most people set it up).
Regardless of what restore method you recommend, any info and helpful tips would be appreciated. I'm moving all my photos, videos, etc. to my computer, so there shouldn't be anything on the phone that I could not restore.
I saved my settings in Nova Launcher and Wanam. Hopefully, most of my customizations will restore from those settings - but I obviously all the icons won't return because some of the apps were not installed before the Safestrap backup.
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SafeStrap is the only recovery available for a retail S5. You have essentially two options: Do a factory reset which will not remove your firmware or ROM, it will only remove apps and associated cache and data. Many times that is all one needs to "clean-up their phone" and getting back to operating like new. Or, option 2, wipe data, cache, delvek cache, factory reset and flash your backup, if you trust it. If you don't trust your current backup make another one and flash that backup then restore your apps. I personally would do option 2. Make a new backup in Safestrap, then do a factory reset and flash the backup. That will accomplish what you want. You can always replace apps. The most important thing is to make sure you have a backup of your current ROM before you do anything.
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The most important thing is to make sure you have a backup of your current ROM before you do anything.
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Hmm, why is the ROM backup important? Because it's more difficult to get root back otherwise? I was more concerned about restoring my customizations for launcher, etc.
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Hmm, why is the ROM backup important? Because it's more difficult to get root back otherwise? I was more concerned about restoring my customizations for launcher, etc.
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Maybe I misunderstand what it is you're trying to accomplish. Just a reminder-- RULE #1: if you're going to hack a phone (and you already have done that by rooting and installing SafeStrap) always, always have a backup.
Refresh for me what it is you're trying to accomplish. I haven't used SafeStrap in a couple of years, I have a Developer Edition. However, I'll try to help you accomplish what you want without bricking your phone, that is priority one. Even if you loose root, you can always use towelroot again to re-root. If you brick your phone, well, that is another story.
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If you brick your phone, well, that is another story.
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That's the kind of reason I posted this.
I made a Safestrap backup immediately after rooting. Everything was stable then (and for a month or so after).
Basically, I've tried a lot of apps, and one that seemed sketchy recently. My phone started throwing up the "___ has stopped" errors regularly, so something seems wrong. I want to go back to a stable state. I might even not freeze any apps with Titanium Backup for a while to see how it run. There are some apps that are currently on my phone that I won't bother reinstalling. Otherwise, I don't really want to change anything.
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That's the kind of reason I posted this.
I made a Safestrap backup immediately after rooting. Everything was stable then (and for a month or so after).
Basically, I've tried a lot of apps, and one that seemed sketchy recently. My phone started throwing up the "___ has stopped" errors regularly, so something seems wrong. I want to go back to a stable state. I might even not freeze any apps with Titanium Backup for a while to see how it run. There are some apps that are currently on my phone that I won't bother reinstalling. Otherwise, I don't really want to change anything.
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Ok, I understand...again, LOL. Yes, first unfreeze anything you have frozen and see if the error message goes away. If it does then you had something frozen that an app or system needed. The trick is going to be discovering what you had frozen that was causing the error. Uninstall (using the stock apps manager) any apps that you no longer use or want.
If the error has not returned, then freeze a few apps at a time and see if the error returns. If it does then you have narrowed the problem down to a few apps. Sorry, there is no better way to go through the "freezing" process. Sometimes it is just trial and error. By the way, what error(app) was stopping. That might help identify what you Don't want to freeze.
To avoid a Factory Reset, you can go into recovery and wipe cache and delvek cache. Do not select/wipe data, system or anything else. Then select reboot phone from within SafeStrap. When your phone re-boots Android will build (optimizing apps) delvek cache. This will not brick your phone, but it will clean it up and get rid of potential problems left over from uninstalled apps. And, you will not loose root.
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By the way, what error(app) was stopping.
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There are a variety of apps that get the stop error - a lot of different apps. It's not consistent and seems to happen randomly (often apps I've never used). Because of that, I'm tempted to try to go back to a previous state. If you think it's sufficient to clear those caches and uninstall any apps I'm unsure of, then I might try it. However, I'd probably still worry that something bad was still installed somewhere. Maybe the only way to remove all doubt would be to factory reset. Or would my Safestrap backup be a certain way to put my phone back to its state before the sketchy app was installed?
I might try your method first to see how it goes.
If I wanted to use the Safestrap backup, I'm not sure exactly how. Do I open Safestrap and "install recovery"?
I really appreciate all the info. I'm learning a lot here.
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There are a variety of apps that get the stop error - a lot of different apps. It's not consistent and seems to happen randomly (often apps I've never used). Because of that, I'm tempted to try to go back to a previous state. If you think it's sufficient to clear those caches and uninstall any apps I'm unsure of, then I might try it. However, I'd probably still worry that something bad was still installed somewhere. Maybe the only way to remove all doubt would be to factory reset. Or would my Safestrap backup be a certain way to put my phone back to its state before the sketchy app was installed?
I might try your method first to see how it goes.
If I wanted to use the Safestrap backup, I'm not sure exactly how. Do I open Safestrap and "install recovery"?
I really appreciate all the info. I'm learning a lot here.
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No problem, glad to help.
Ok, lets try the safest process first and progress from there.
1. Remove all unwanted and/or not used apps
2. Unfreeze everything and see if any errors occur
3. If no error then you have something frozen causing the problem. If the error still occurs then go to 4.
4. Enter recovery and clean cache and delvek...reboot phone and see what happens
5. If errors continue to occur then do a factory reset
6. If errors continue to occur after Factory Reset then wipe phone and flash your backup
How to flash backup: Go into recovery (SafeStrap), select Wipe and wipe (cache, delvek, data), and do a factory reset. Then, while still in recovery, go to Restore and select your backup and swipe to install the backup. After the install, select reboot.
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2. Unfreeze everything and see if any errors occur
3. If no error then you have something frozen causing the problem. If the error still occurs then go to 4.
4. Enter recovery and clean cache and delvek...reboot phone and see what happens
5. If errors continue to occur then do a factory reset
6. If errors continue to occur after Factory Reset then wipe phone and flash your backup
How to flash backup: Go into recovery (SafeStrap), select Wipe and wipe (cache, delvek, data), and do a factory reset. Then, while still in recovery, go to Restore and select your backup and swipe to install the backup. After the install, select reboot.
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I defrosted everything and still got errors.
I entered recovery, selected Wipe, then Advanced Wipe. That gives me options for "Dalvik Cache", "Cache", and a few others.
You said "delvek" where Safestrap Advanced Wipe says "Dalvik". I don't want to risk anything. Can you confirm that I should wipe Dalvik Cache and Cache?
Yes, wipe cache and dalvek cache
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Hi guys, so basically I made a backup of my STOCK rom and then I installed CYANOGEN mod 12 on the phone... Realizing I totally forgot about my contacts I then backed it up and "restored" my old backup of the stock rom which is kitkat. to find that EVERYTHING "stops working" so I cant get to my contacts.
Now heres where I believe I went wrong. I used philz touchwiz and upon my process to flash the phone I did the system/factory reset option or something like that and it asks if you'd like to wipe the phone to install a new rom. I selected yes so I thought that I was good to go and did not go further into the other stuff... I flashed cyanogen mod on the phone and then it said it was "upgrading my apps" ok well thats fine, and it ran great and no issues.... So going back to my STOCK backup after that, all the apps just crash, which I assume is due to still having the old apps which are "upgraded" to lollipop but the apps of course crash on "kitkat"
So, I've read that in a backup it saves all your apps and stuff.. It should return your phone back to exactly where it was when you made the backup. so why is it i'm having the app issues? I guess I need to delete them right?
So what is the options i need to do to get rid of the apps and do a proper phone wiping prior to a backup so that when I load my kitkat backup that It runs fine as it should? Wipe cache? dalvik? /data?, etc etc.... will it erase the main phones memory as a hole or no?
let me know how to correct this, I greatly appreciate it. I've tried googling to no prevail so far.
If I'm understanding correctly, you're trying to restore your KitKat apps onto cm12.
If that is the case, it will keep force closing apps. When upgrading and moving from touchwiz based Roms to AOSP based Roms you can't just restore from backups, the environment is different.
So to carry your contacts, I suggest recreating the same KitKat environment by clean installing whatever ROM you had, let google play store install the apps, then restore your app data only using philz advanced restore option (make sure all other options besides app data or data are unchecked)
Once all are restored, make a backup of your contacts and SMS using call log back up and SMS backup apps from playstore.
Back up any app progress using adb like
#adb -backup -f appname.ab -obb -noapk com.android....
And then do a clean cm12 install, let play store install all apps and start restoring call log, SMS, and your app data.
This takes a while, but it is worth it!
I've noticed two problems that crop up when I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps/data
1) If I try to restore the missing apps + data, sometimes everything gets restored, and sometimes it gives me "X elements failed", where some apps will not be installed. This happens whether I restore on the same ROM that I backed up on (backup on Cloudy G2, restore on Cloudy G2) , or if I use a different ROM (backup on NDM 5.5, restore on Cloudy G2). I thought I found a work around, where I just install the app from the Play Store first, and THEN I would restore the app data. That worked a few times until....
2) When I tried restoring my app data last night after a fresh KDZ wipe, the apps that I restored data on all couldn't start (Snapchat, Amazon, Wechat, SwiftKey). I would tap them, they would try to open for half a second, then they would close. I tried restarting my phone, but with that, I got "UIDs on your system are inconsistent, you need to wipe your data partition or your device will be unstable". I was stupid, and decided to wipe my data partition so I had to restore all my apps from scratch, but that at least hasn't lead to any problems yet.
Does anyone know what I did wrong, or what I can do to fix this? I know for number 1, some threads mentioned that your Android I.D. changes when you flash a new ROM (that MIGHT explain number 2?), but not a lot of people mention this, and it seems like the majority of people don't have this problem. For number 2, I found this thread, but it was too late already.
If possible, I'd like to find a backup app that avoids ALL of these and just lets me back things up and restore easily. Is there one out there?
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I've noticed two problems that crop up when I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps/data
1) If I try to restore the missing apps + data, sometimes everything gets restored, and sometimes it gives me "X elements failed", where some apps will not be installed. This happens whether I restore on the same ROM that I backed up on (backup on Cloudy G2, restore on Cloudy G2) , or if I use a different ROM (backup on NDM 5.5, restore on Cloudy G2). I thought I found a work around, where I just install the app from the Play Store first, and THEN I would restore the app data. That worked a few times until....
2) When I tried restoring my app data last night after a fresh KDZ wipe, the apps that I restored data on all couldn't start (Snapchat, Amazon, Wechat, SwiftKey). I would tap them, they would try to open for half a second, then they would close. I tried restarting my phone, but with that, I got "UIDs on your system are inconsistent, you need to wipe your data partition or your device will be unstable". I was stupid, and decided to wipe my data partition so I had to restore all my apps from scratch, but that at least hasn't lead to any problems yet.
Does anyone know what I did wrong, or what I can do to fix this? I know for number 1, some threads mentioned that your Android I.D. changes when you flash a new ROM (that MIGHT explain number 2?), but not a lot of people mention this, and it seems like the majority of people don't have this problem. For number 2, I found this thread, but it was too late already.
If possible, I'd like to find a backup app that avoids ALL of these and just lets me back things up and restore easily. Is there one out there?
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is a supersu issue, open supersu than go to is setting and not select "name space mount separation" that is selected by default.
Now titanium can work as intended
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is a supersu issue, open supersu than go to is setting and not select "name space mount separation" that is selected by default.
Now titanium can work as intended
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That will fix both problems that I have?
Try, I was unable to use it untill I change the SuperSu setting and now Titanium is working perfectly, so probably your problem is the same.
Oh I mean, I can use it just fine. It can perform backups. But restoring is a when I get those errors. I'll keep this in mind in case I need to restore to a new ROM, thanks!