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1080p playback

Any way to do it? I read the galaxy s series wad capable but the feature was locked? Trying to watch the new bf3 Caspian border video in 1080p/60fps.. because YouTube sucks.
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Why?
Anything over 480p will just be scaled down to the 480p display and look, at best, the same as 480p.

RushAOZ said:
Any way to do it? I read the galaxy s series wad capable but the feature was locked? Trying to watch the new bf3 Caspian border video in 1080p/60fps.. because YouTube sucks.
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I don't recall any movies or tv's we have is 60fps. Its 29fps and 30fps
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AndrewZorn said:
Why?
Anything over 480p will just be scaled down to the 480p display and look, at best, the same as 480p.
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Because it's convenient not to have to transcode 1080p material that one may have in their media library just to watch it on their phone.
I deal with this all the time... I have a huge media server (10TB) with mostly HD content on it these days, because I watch the stuff via CIFS on my HD tv's using the LG BD570 bluray/network player.
I also use CifsManager (see Market) to mount these same shares from my server to easily access my library on my Epic4G around the house. I have ORB set up, but it' considerably less convenient and more cumbersome to use, so I only go that route when I'm away from home.
So, there is a very legitimate usage model where one might want to watch 1080p content on their phone. In addition to the network share (CIFS) method, one might simply want to copy 1080p media from their server to their phone for a trip, and not have to go through the hassle of transcoding.

dwallersv said:
Because it's convenient not to have to transcode 1080p material that one may have in their media library just to watch it on their phone.
I deal with this all the time... I have a huge media server (10TB) with mostly HD content on it these days, because I watch the stuff via CIFS on my HD tv's using the LG BD570 bluray/network player.
I also use CifsManager (see Market) to mount these same shares from my server to easily access my library on my Epic4G around the house. I have ORB set up, but it' considerably less convenient and more cumbersome to use, so I only go that route when I'm away from home.
So, there is a very legitimate usage model where one might want to watch 1080p content on their phone. In addition to the network share (CIFS) method, one might simply want to copy 1080p media from their server to their phone for a trip, and not have to go through the hassle of transcoding.
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This +10000.
You, sir, are far more eloquent than I could have been at explaining this.

bender29 said:
This +10000.
You, sir, are far more eloquent than I could have been at explaining this.
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there's an app called "Emit" on the market, which has server counterparts that will do server-side on-the-fly transcoding for you. The author posted some stuff about it on reddit and it was generally well received, but I haven't tried it out, really. Free version has ads, paid version doesn't.

I download 1080p content all the time, then stream it to my ps3 with an app or copy it over.

dwallersv said:
Because it's convenient not to have to transcode 1080p material that one may have in their media library just to watch it on their phone.
I deal with this all the time... I have a huge media server (10TB) with mostly HD content on it these days, because I watch the stuff via CIFS on my HD tv's using the LG BD570 bluray/network player.
I also use CifsManager (see Market) to mount these same shares from my server to easily access my library on my Epic4G around the house. I have ORB set up, but it' considerably less convenient and more cumbersome to use, so I only go that route when I'm away from home.
So, there is a very legitimate usage model where one might want to watch 1080p content on their phone. In addition to the network share (CIFS) method, one might simply want to copy 1080p media from their server to their phone for a trip, and not have to go through the hassle of transcoding.
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And yet, I didn't need to guess about OP's situation. In fact, he said:
RushAOZ said:
Any way to do it? I read the galaxy s series wad capable but the feature was locked? Trying to watch the new bf3 Caspian border video in 1080p/60fps.. because YouTube sucks.
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...for which my 'why' reply is quite appropriate.

No. He's absolutely right. I just downloaded the video and wantes to watch it. Without downscaling or any of that crap. Sometimes you want to do things the easy way. When you get a gs2, the outcome will be same. Same display resolution. Point is, I wanted to watch a damn video at 1080p lol and the hummingbird cpus in these phones can do it. So, back to the original question. Anyone know how to get this done? Without the trolling please? Lol
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The ipod touch can watch 720p...how come we can't and our OS is owned by the parent company of youtube!!
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My guess is that its disabled to make other phones seem like a better option? Not sure. But its annoying. And these phones are damn capable of it. Considering the power vr540 chip in these phones still kick ass compared to today's standards.
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RushAOZ said:
My guess is that its disabled to make other phones seem like a better option? Not sure. But its annoying. And these phones are damn capable of it. Considering the power vr540 chip in these phones still kick ass compared to today's standards.
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Man, the Epic 4g was gimped from the getgo because of the Evo.
The OG specs for the Galaxy S Pro wouldve stepped all over the EVO. Sprint couldnt have that considering the amount of marketing they put in the evo to just have this random samsung phone come out of nowhere right after they launch their most heavily marketed phone with better specs because then people will be complaining that they paid for the evo and a much better phone comes out right after.
idk. just my theory. i like connecting irrelevant dots

Bump yo
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I think you're going to have to be transcoding. If you got this video off of the web I'm willing to wager you're working with a long GOP codec, which is processor intensive. Add in the scaling required (if it's widescreen the 800px width is the limiting factor, not the 480px height) and you're looking at a fairly serious task.
If it's worth anything I can put 24 cores worth of Intel i7 (48 if you count hyperthreading) one one transcode from one RAID-5 to another RAID-5. If I'm going from a codec that's all I frames (like Animation or ProRes) and go to a long GOP codec (like H.264 or some mpeg variant) with scaling and a mild sharpening it takes about 1/2 of real time. For a mobile to decode a long GOP codec and do a similar scale in real time - what took 24 i7 cores half of real time - impresses me. Somehow the Galaxy S II seems to be able to. Rumour has it the Epic Touch is a few weeks out.

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I think you're going to have to be transcoding. If you got this video off of the web I'm willing to wager you're working with a long GOP codec, which is processor intensive. Add in the scaling required (if it's widescreen the 800px width is the limiting factor, not the 480px height) and you're looking at a fairly serious task.
If it's worth anything I can put 24 cores worth of Intel i7 (48 if you count hyperthreading) one one transcode from one RAID-5 to another RAID-5. If I'm going from a codec that's all I frames (like Animation or ProRes) and go to a long GOP codec (like H.264 or some mpeg variant) with scaling and a mild sharpening it takes about 1/2 of real time. For a mobile to decode a long GOP codec and do a similar scale in real time - what took 24 i7 cores half of real time - impresses me. Somehow the Galaxy S II seems to be able to. Rumour has it the Epic Touch is a few weeks out.
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I'm a giant newb when it cone to decoding and whatnot. Can you simplify that for me please? Lol the video is the battlefield 3 Caspian border gameplay video. I specifically found it at full 1080 at 60fps. Its about 355mb. I tried rock player and software mode was HORRIBLE lmao about 4-6 frames a sec the video was running at lmao
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Have you tried mvideoplayer? Rockplayer only does software decoding. But I don't think it's capable of 1080p60, just 1080p30.

MVideo Player is my pick too. I download tons of anime and it's in 720p and 1080p at times and it somehow magically plays smooth as butter on the Epic with MVideoPlayer and it even shows subtitles correctly with no transcoding. Who has time to transcode stuff ?

I tried mvideoplayer and it won't play that bf3 file lol I think I'm sol. I really want to rip a DVD at full quality to test me screen. Anyone know where I can get some native high quality 720p videos?
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bit1 said:
MVideo Player is my pick too. I download tons of anime and it's in 720p and 1080p at times and it somehow magically plays smooth as butter on the Epic with MVideoPlayer and it even shows subtitles correctly with no transcoding. Who has time to transcode stuff ?
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Are you sure it is playing 1080p smoothly? Every time I try a 1080p file, no matter the bitrate it will disable hardware encoding, therefore playing choppy. Some 1080p files play OK, but never at the full framerate, at 1.6ghz it is fairly close, but still not 100%.
So far I've had the best luck with MX Video Player. MVideoPlayer works fine, but does not always display subtitles properly, and won't even play 1080p (Sorry, this video cannot be played) most of the time.

tbob18 said:
Are you sure it is playing 1080p smoothly? Every time I try a 1080p file, no matter the bitrate it will disable hardware encoding, therefore playing choppy. Some 1080p files play OK, but never at the full framerate, at 1.6ghz it is fairly close, but still not 100%.
So far I've had the best luck with MX Video Player. MVideoPlayer works fine, but does not always display subtitles properly, and won't even play 1080p (Sorry, this video cannot be played) most of the time.
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I figured I'd revive this thread since a fair amount has changed in the past 14 months. With new (and hopefully better) software decoding files using Android 4.0 and 4.1, 1080p video will at least run on an OG Epic 4G running CM9. However, the frame rate is still laughably low. That said, I was wondering if anyone has come across a configuration (overclocking or otherwise) that allows for a "relatively" smooth 1080p mp4 playback (really, minimal graphics movement, just so long as the audio and video sync). Yes, MX Video Player seems to be the best at running this high-resolution content (having used about 6 video players now), but not even HW+ and/or SW+ decoders can work fast enough.
Any insight is always appreciated.

OK......If Tegra 2 Is Underpowered?

OK,
I have just returned my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (16Gb) to the store after suffering the "Newtons Ring / Oil Spill" phenomenon, and after the store assistant told me that someone else had returned 2 with the same problem, and BOTH store display models have the same issues, I decided not to get a new one. So now I am in the market for a new tablet. (And to get rid of my Dock, Book cover and SD / USB Connection Kit, Dock - Used, Book Cover - Unopened and SD / USB Connection Kit - Unopened - but thats another story).
So I am thinking about moving away from Tegra 2 after having problems getting it to play High Profile HD video due to the underpowering of the Tegra 2 chipset.
I am considering the Archos G9, which has a Texas Instruments ARM dual-core CORTEX A9 OMAP 4 chip (1Ghz to 1.5Ghz), which Archos claim will play High Profile HD video.
Are there any tabs that you think I should consider?
I realise that this is a Galaxy Tab forum, but I have read some good advice from users of this forum section.
Thanks
Stewart

StuMcBill said:
OK,
I have just returned my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (16Gb) to the store after suffering the "Newtons Ring / Oil Spill" phenomenon, and after the store assistant told me that someone else had returned 2 with the same problem, and BOTH store display models have the same issues, I decided not to get a new one. So now I am in the market for a new tablet. (And to get rid of my Dock, Book cover and SD / USB Connection Kit, Dock - Used, Book Cover - Unopened and SD / USB Connection Kit - Unopened - but thats another story).
So I am thinking about moving away from Tegra 2 after having problems getting it to play High Profile HD video due to the underpowering of the Tegra 2 chipset.
I am considering the Archos G9, which has a Texas Instruments ARM dual-core CORTEX A9 OMAP 4 chip (1Ghz to 1.5Ghz), which Archos claim will play High Profile HD video.
Are there any tabs that you think I should consider?
I realise that this is a Galaxy Tab forum, but I have read some good advice from users of this forum section.
Thanks
Stewart
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Archos make great media players so their new ones will probably play x264 without a problem. But I've never liked their design or build quality.

Itaintrite said:
But I've never liked their design or build quality.
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^^^^^
This.
Add to it that they're big and heavy based on the published specs.
If you're not a big video (streaming and local) user the HTC Jetstream/Puccini is a great tablet. It'll probably be released in Europe this Fall.

If you want a good thin alternative to the Tab 10.1, the new OMAP-powered Toshiba AT200 looks like a good bet, if it releases in the near future.

I think you might need to wait for the next generation of tablets. The GT10 is as good as it gets right now. After the new year there will be several more options but as of now, there's nothing that will get you high profile video and build quality at the same time. A quick question about the newton rings: could you actually see them when the screen was turned on?

slack04 said:
I think you might need to wait for the next generation of tablets. The GT10 is as good as it gets right now. After the new year there will be several more options but as of now, there's nothing that will get you high profile video and build quality at the same time. A quick question about the newton rings: could you actually see them when the screen was turned on?
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Yeah i could see them, especially in dark scenes on movies etc.
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Croak said:
OMAP-powered Toshiba AT200
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slack04 said:
wait for the next generation of tablets.
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One of these two options.

Or you can get a Blackberry Playbook, I have one and it plays 1080p videos without a sweat, you can even multitask while the video is playing without a single frame being skipped!!! The HDMI output is the best of any tablet on the market, and the screen is top notch.
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The Playbook is using the same OMAP CPU as the aforementioned Toshiba AT200, except clocked at 1GHz as opposed to the 1.2GHz of the Toshiba.
So if it can rattle through 1080p videos, there's a good chance the Toshiba will be able to as well.
It's the GPU, the PowerVR SGX GPUs are something pretty special.

Nope, not underpowered, just a crap video player supplied with the stock rom. I thought it was true until I found dice player. With dice I have had no trouble playing any video so far. The 4 gb file size limit is more of an issue that finding a proper video player.
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No even with dice player, it can't play 1080p high profile video. Tegra 2 is so weak that it even stutters playing some YouTube videos.
bdejong11129 said:
Nope, not underpowered, just a crap video player supplied with the stock rom. I thought it was true until I found dice player. With dice I have had no trouble playing any video so far. The 4 gb file size limit is more of an issue that finding a proper video player.
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hbkmog said:
No even with dice player, it can't play 1080p high profile video. Tegra 2 is so weak that it even stutters playing some YouTube videos.
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Same here. Most of my videos are 1080p. I've tried a number of media players and none have been able to keep up.

Latoc said:
Or you can get a Blackberry Playbook, I have one and it plays 1080p videos without a sweat, you can even multitask while the video is playing without a single frame being skipped!!! The HDMI output is the best of any tablet on the market, and the screen is top notch.
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I really like the styling of the playbook, and if it ran android i would be all over it!
However, since it hasn't been selling as well as RIM had hoped, we might see some heavy discounts soon?
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Tegra2 only support H.264 [email protected] and no weighted prediction B-frames.
For me thats okay, no need to play higher resolution on the tab than 720p anyway. Only problem is having to recode high res videos.
And about the 4gig limit. You can copy larger files too, over wireless if you have the time. (which takes a ****load of time, is there any other way to copy larger files to the tab, and maybe even faster?)

slack04 said:
I think you might need to wait for the next generation of tablets. The GT10 is as good as it gets right now. After the new year there will be several more options but as of now, there's nothing that will get you high profile video and build quality at the same time. A quick question about the newton rings: could you actually see them when the screen was turned on?
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The HP Touchpad can do it if somebody writes a decent media player for it. I've tried remuxing 1080p h264 videos (to reencode the audio while keeping video intact) and it plays the videos very smoothly with stock player. Waiting patiently for Android to come so I can try DicePlayer and others with the TouchPad.

ShannonAUT said:
Tegra2 only support H.264 [email protected] and no weighted prediction B-frames.
For me thats okay, no need to play higher resolution on the tab than 720p anyway. Only problem is having to recode high res videos.
And about the 4gig limit. You can copy larger files too, over wireless if you have the time. (which takes a ****load of time, is there any other way to copy larger files to the tab, and maybe even faster?)
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Never understood the desire to play full 1080p monster video files on a tablet. I love watching full size on my huge plasma but on the tablet it is just a waste to play such a large file. I batch encoded some for playimg on the tablet for trip a while back with handbrake and all I had to do was limit three bit rate. The video looked perfect and with dice player it never stuttered.
Each to hire one I guess, but this is much better than watching on my phone and the form factor is perfect.
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bdejong11129 said:
Never understood the desire to play full 1080p monster video files on a tablet. I love watching full size on my huge plasma but on the tablet it is just a waste to play such a large file. I batch encoded some for playimg on the tablet for trip a while back with handbrake and all I had to do was limit three bit rate. The video looked perfect and with dice player it never stuttered.
Each to hire one I guess, but this is much better than watching on my phone and the form factor is perfect.
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It's just a matter of convenience. Would you prefer reencode all the videos if it could be avoided? And not everybody has a computer fast enough to do so quickly. On my intel E8400, a 2hour movie will take about half a day.

It's an extra step that should be unnecessary. It limits how you can use your tab since you just can't drag & drop videos on a whim not knowing if it'll play. Also it's not awaste if you're using it to feed an hdtv.

Were people expecting the first generation tablets to be blu ray players too? This is complaining just for the sake of complaining.
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I don't see the point playing 1080p video on tablet either. Speaking of convenient, I think it's more convenient just to download smaller 720p videos and not have to worry about file size and such.
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Transformers in Full Screen....

I noticed when I pause transformers at 8:48, the normal view looks normal, but when I click the little button on the top right hand corner to expand, I can only see "ransformer" out of transformers. It cuts off the sides a lot.
Does this happen with every video?
The screen is small as it is, I don't want to go smaller still.
Is there anyway to fix the ratio somehow?
Sorry total noob when it comes to videos.
Thanks.

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There is no "stretch" option for videos in the Movies and TV app, only a zoom function. Rather than distort the video, the video is displayed in its original aspect ratio, which is wider than the Nexus 7 screen.
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So this is something that has to do with the Movies & TV App. Phew. Atleast we can count on Netflix and internally stored movies.

threpac said:
There is no "stretch" option for videos in the Movies and TV app, only a zoom function. Rather than distort the video, the video is displayed in its original aspect ratio, which is wider than the Nexus 7 screen.
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^ True that .. what sucks is that I can play the transformers movie on my htc design over the 4g network. It's smoother , LOOKS BETTER and shows the entire screen with no cut offs.
- Maybe were lacking better tegra 3 drivers.

[Q] Video Converter for N4 formats

Guys what's a good video converter (free/paid) for converting Bluray/regular movies to a format that's perfect for Nexus 4 screen size?
Lemme know. Thanks!

Handbrake, perfect for any situation.
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I don't think you need 1. Just download MX player and it should handle the format very well. I used MX on my Galaxy Nexus to play some 720p mkv and it looked really gorgeous. Can't wait to watch Homeland on my Nexus 4.

wngmv said:
I don't think you need 1. Just download MX player and it should handle the format very well. I used MX on my Galaxy Nexus to play some 720p mkv and it looked really gorgeous. Can't wait to watch Homeland on my Nexus 4.
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The file themselves are too big, so converting them to a smaller file helps.
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Freemake! It's free, sufficiently good for the small screen, and you can use it for just about any device/situation you can imagine. That, and it's brain dead simple with a pleasing modern interface. You should check it out...
http://www.freemake.com/free_video_converter/.
But, yeah, I would only re-encode if the 720p files are too large, and as we know, space is surely a commodity on this device.

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The file themselves are too big, so converting them to a smaller file helps.
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Given the screen resolution of Nexus4 resizing will result in a much less enjoyable experience. Do you need to put 10G worth of video on your phone? Really?

wngmv said:
Given the screen resolution of Nexus4 resizing will result in a much less enjoyable experience. Do you need to put 10G worth of video on your phone? Really?
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If I don't reduce quality (not the resolution but the bitrate), one of my video will be of 10G.... There's a point beyond which quality is not noticeable on such small screen, so reducing the bitrate doesn't make much of a difference.
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I think I'll be perfectly happy playing 700 MB BR-RIPS with MXplayer! Thanks guys!

Just grab a 700MB or smaller torrent. A quick search for a popular movie showed blueray rips (BRRip) coming in at 450 MB. I have to think that futzing with ripping a 30-50GB blueray file in Handbrake easily equals the time, effort, and CPU cycles it would take for a typical 400-700MB torrent movie to download? While the screen may be HD on your phone, it is doubtful your eyes could discern much difference in quality on a 4-5 inch screen. The thought police may not like it if you are in the dying empire however.

Since I'm on a limited net connection which isn't very fast, it's cheaper and easier for me to convert videos than to re download them. Plus I got a beefy computer so it gets to flex it's muscle.
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Reason I don't play 720mkv on my iPad is a) space b) increased processing power and battery consumption, because it has to work harder

Using HDMI out

Got one of those m-hdmi to normal HDMI adapters, it works great but I was wondering if the tn7 can out put higher than the 1280x800 the notes screen is to the TV? Or does it just detect and output the highest Res any way? Also does anyone know how to make the image fit the whole screen? I've got bars on the sides and top/bottom. First time I've used a tabs HDMI out =/
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foxorroxors said:
Got one of those m-hdmi to normal HDMI adapters, it works great but I was wondering if the tn7 can out put higher than the 1280x800 the notes screen is to the TV? Or does it just detect and output the highest Res any way? Also does anyone know how to make the image fit the whole screen? I've got bars on the sides and top/bottom. First time I've used a tabs HDMI out =/
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At the moment, you'll only get 1080p output if you watch a 1080p video. I was really hoping they were going to add Console Mode with full 1080p output with the 4.4 update, but alas... nope!
As for the image not fitting the TV, the tablet's display is actually 16:10 at 1280x800 and not 16:9 at 1280x720, so the image doesn't quite fit. It's kinda stupid since even my old Acer A500 tablet had a 16:10 screen but adjusted the output to fit 16:9. Long story short, though, is that it is what it is, and there's not really anything that can be done besides hoping and waiting for Nvidia to iron it out (or for a dev to fix it with a custom ROM some day).

foxorroxors said:
Got one of those m-hdmi to normal HDMI adapters, it works great but I was wondering if the tn7 can out put higher than the 1280x800 the notes screen is to the TV? Or does it just detect and output the highest Res any way? Also does anyone know how to make the image fit the whole screen? I've got bars on the sides and top/bottom. First time I've used a tabs HDMI out =/
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If you don't want the bars on either side of the screen, you need to roll back to the original 4.2.2 firmware. Using that firmware, if you use a movie player like MX Player, when a film is playing, pinch to 'zoom' in on the film. As you do so the the edge of the film will disappear off the edge of the tablet's screen, but it will zoom in to fit the edges of the TV's screen, if you see what I mean. You will also find playback under 4.2 much smoother, whereas now you may experience micro stutters as though the movie is dropping frames or running at less than 24fps. If you search for Tegra Note Connectivity you'll find a thread I made with more info. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566828
Sadly 4.3 and 4.4 broke this rather cool zooming feature.
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