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[Q] Best choice for custom ROM

Hi friends.
First, I want to praise this forum ... that is fantastic!
My question is about the currently ROMs for my milestone 2...
I want to flash my ML2 with another ROM, to get a better experience with the battery life...
What ROM is the better choice?
- Argen2Stone 2.7
- CM7
- TIM Retail 2.3.6
- MIUI 2
- Others.... ?
Thanks again guys!

I test all these roms, personally I prefer CM7 of Tezet + the update of Endless7
Lose the video recording at 720p, but it works great.!!

It depend on your version of MS2. I have problems with gps in cyanogen's rom, so i'am using ms2ginger 2.1. It's perfect, everything's working, but it have shorter battery life. My friend have older revision of MS2, he had serious problems with keyboard and multitouch, but Endless7 cm7 runs perfectly on his phone.

VooDooKill said:
I test all these roms, personally I prefer CM7 of Tezet + the update of Endless7
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YES!
+1 for that rom .
It's pity, there's no Endless7's update for latest Tezet's CM7

Guys, I tried flash my phone with CM7 times ago....
I first flash the SO with "update-cm-7.1.0-DROID2WE-signed.zip"
After this I apply "gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip"
All using Bootmenu.
But, the phone doesn't boot... the screen stay black and nothing happends....
After this, I recovery to 2.2 TIM RETAIL...
Can you post a link with a better tutorial for me?
Thanks!

betoneto.tbo said:
Can you post a link with a better tutorial for me?
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[HOW TO] install CyanogenMod/MIUI to your phone

betoneto.tbo said:
I first flash the SO with "update-cm-7.1.0-DROID2WE-signed.zip"
After this I apply "gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip"
But, the phone doesn't boot... the screen stay black and nothing happends....
Thanks!
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May sound stupid, but allthough the milestone 2 and droid to appear to be the same phone, they are not the same phone.
Main difference is one is cdma (no sim - droid 2) and other is gsm (has a simcard - milestone2)
No method will ever get a droid 2 rom working on your milestone 2.
EDIT:
(moved to start of rant) If you have upgraded to the official gingerbread you can only use CM9, CM7(endless7), argen2stone. Just the ones with the GB kernel.
But as for other roms all roms, the choices are:
CM9: Not finished but quite stable now and a great look into ICS certainly work having a try of it. Uses GB kernel so no multitouch bug.
CM7 (tezet version): Stable, good, fast, has multitouch bug due to froyo kernel
CM7 (endless7 version/defy port): Not much difference from tezet version, but some added bells and whistles. Also uses the CH gingerbread kernel, so no multitouch bug and better touch response. I'd recommend this version personally, but it's all a matter of opinion. Also both versions show all market apps regardless of compatibility - can be handy if you wanna take advantage of a great sale knowing you can just use it when it is patched for your device or you upgrade. Or if you can tweak some stuff enough to trick it into working.
MIUI: Simply wonderful. Most stable one i have used. At first i hated the iphone likeness of it - but you can install a custom launcher if you wish. I got used to it though and ended up loving it once I tuned it to how i liked it - 1 screen with several folders and a clock widget the themes are great. It also uses the froyo kernel, so unfortunately has the multitouch bug. So i had to leave it
Argen2Stone: Pretty close to stock so if you liked the stock firmware but not it's slowness you will probably like this. Simply wasn't for me but for the time i used it, it was quite stable. Uses the CH gingerbread kernel though, so no multi touch bug here too . OH and is one of the few that has 720p video recording working I think.
I can't really remember ms2ginger and i have never tried blurless, so I won't comment on them.
Moral of the story, you can count the amount of roms we have available on you hand so why not get them all, and try them 1 day at a time?
They are all great roms and far better than stock was, so you can't really go wrong. No one here can possibly tell you what you like so you will just have to test them yourself soon enough and find out

DreadPirateDan said:
Also if you have upgraded to the official gingerbread you can only use CM9, CM7(endless7), argen2stone. Just the ones with the GB kernel.
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Pretty cool review about all the custom roms, DreadPirateDan! With a bonus information at last paragraph, wich made it worth all the "extensive" reading lollollol

lolll, good point - edited it to the beginning

VooDooKill said:
I test all these roms, personally I prefer CM7 of Tezet + the update of Endless7
Lose the video recording at 720p, but it works great.!!
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+1 me too great works of tezet and endless7

ive used Argen2Stone 2.7 ..its a really good rom.
now im using CM9 by tezet.

My vote goes for tezet's CM7, because I like more that clean CM7 than endless' mod.

i think CM7 of Tezet is the best.

I'm voting for MIUI - but I understand if someone don't like it due to it's quite bad touch responsiveness.

I want to shar my experience with you. I used all the rom you listed except "tim retail 2.3.6".
I'm now using A2S and UK 2.3.4 kernel. It has the perfect experience whatever daily use or game playing. But it has the shorter battery life(the same as cm7 or may be a little longer).
I often got reboot when i using cm7 especially when i entering games.
MIUI has the different style from other android roms. It also based on cm kernel, if you are boring with the original android UI ,you may try this rom. But this rom has the shortest battery life even less than CM7, and has the slow reflex when you have incall.
Sorry for my terrible English.
Sent from my A953 using XDA App

CM7 for me.. even if it doesn't have 720p recording it is battery friendly.. i like argen2stone but the only thing i dont like on this rom is blur UI.. they should have remove the UI because it eats too much ram >.<

[Q] Motorola Defy Kernels

hi guys, I would like to ask experienced users what is the difference between the kernels we used on our Defy(s)
Froyo Kernel vs Gingerbread kernel vs Walter79's Kernel
I first encountered this kernel upon viewing the CM9 update thread
I have a red lense defy and the very first rom I flashed was the official CM7.1 so I am aware I do have a Froyo Kernel running on this bad boy.
what is the difference/ advantages?
which is better?
is it safe to flash one over the other?
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
I think a lot of noobs would appreciate your answers.
I will edit this post and add your answers so that others may find it useful as well
some answers--------------------------------------------
arpith.fbi said:
what is the difference/ advantages?
Ans:My experience says that the main advantage of using GB kernel is battery life..
Defy-4.5.3-109_DPP-11-kernel is well known for awesome battery life.
which is better?
Ans: I personally think Walter79's kernel is better in every sense.Unfortunately for old defy owners(SOC camera green lens), camera wont work on new kernels without any extra fix..
is it safe to flash one over the other?
Ans: Yea its 100% safe..i personally never had any problem as such..but i heard few people faced bootloop..in any case you can always go back to froyo or watever kernel u were using
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
Ans: As i have already mentioned above, we can always switch between these kernels..just remember not to flash any GB kernel based sbf or else u will be stuck! before flashing any unknown or less known kernel PLEASE USE THE SEARCH option and know more about the kernel and related problems.
All the best
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i would add, that many people state that GB kernel (2.3) has much better 3d performance - games are running much better than on froyo kernel.
It's easy and safe to switch between kernels, you should only remember that switching kernel must come with installing appropriate rom
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what is the difference/ advantages?
Ans:My experience says that the main advantage of using GB kernel is battery life..
Defy-4.5.3-109_DPP-11-kernel is well known for awesome battery life.
which is better?
Ans: I personally think Walter79's kernel is better in every sense.Unfortunately for old defy owners(SOC camera green lens), camera wont work on new kernels without any extra fix..
is it safe to flash one over the other?
Ans: Yea its 100% safe..i personally never had any problem as such..but i heard few people faced bootloop..in any case you can always go back to froyo or watever kernel u were using
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
Ans: As i have already mentioned above, we can always switch between these kernels..just remember not to flash any GB kernel based sbf or else u will be stuck! before flashing any unknown or less known kernel PLEASE USE THE SEARCH option and know more about the kernel and related problems.
All the best

thanks for the answer, somehow it has enlightened me
any more answers? which kernels allow 720p recording?

i would add, that many people state that GB kernel (2.3) has much better 3d performance - games are running much better than on froyo kernel.
It's easy and safe to switch between kernels, you should only remember that switching kernel must come with installing appropriate rom

arpith.fbi said:
what is the difference/ advantages?
Ans:My experience says that the main advantage of using GB kernel is battery life..
Defy-4.5.3-109_DPP-11-kernel is well known for awesome battery life.
which is better?
Ans: I personally think Walter79's kernel is better in every sense.Unfortunately for old defy owners(SOC camera green lens), camera wont work on new kernels without any extra fix..
is it safe to flash one over the other?
Ans: Yea its 100% safe..i personally never had any problem as such..but i heard few people faced bootloop..in any case you can always go back to froyo or watever kernel u were using
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
Ans: As i have already mentioned above, we can always switch between these kernels..just remember not to flash any GB kernel based sbf or else u will be stuck! before flashing any unknown or less known kernel PLEASE USE THE SEARCH option and know more about the kernel and related problems.
All the best
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Thanks for this information bro!!
Please also share Camera fix (link) for GB kernel for SOC Camera and also mentioned whether downgrade is possible. Your help will be appreciated.

anyone correct me but we can do dual boot but can't install dual kernels?
say
cm7 (froyo kernel ) as system
cm9 (gingerbread kernel) on SD
and will Gingerbread kernel work with cm7 for the defy, red lense?

chachoi said:
anyone correct me but we can do dual boot but can't install dual kernels?
say
cm7 (froyo kernel ) as system
cm9 (gingerbread kernel) on SD
and will Gingerbread kernel work with cm7 for the defy, red lense?
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No, can't do it. Both ROM's should share the same kernel.

thanks Auris, would you be able to add anything or negate anything that was previously posted about the Defy Kernels?

Please help me a bit with those kernels! I have a defy+ with 2.3.6 base and one of those newest official build nandroids. Can I flash Walter's kernel? ^^
Just don't want any bootloader error!
Sent from my Defy+ using xda premium (app needs update!)

M on froyo kernel running cm7.2
Can I flash gb kernel? Also m having green lens.
Will the camera work on walters69 kernel?
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thanks
thanks, guys. i've been looking for the answers

Is it okay to flash defy+ rom zip and then the gb kernel on a green lens defy? To me battery life is more important than camera

chachoi said:
thanks for the answer, somehow it has enlightened me
any more answers? which kernels allow 720p recording?
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Walter79's kernel allows 720p recording for defy red lens.

Defy kernel Flash
i have a motorola defy green lens currently running cm9 4.0.4 (camera's not working but i don't care much for the camera ) . ok here's my problem i'm trying to flash a different kernel on my defy.. the current kernel im running is 2.6.32.9 cdt 2011 but i need better performance and i tried to flash semaphore kernel. the flash was successful but i see no changes and also in the settings>about phone the kernel version hasnt changed. i need help so that i can flash new kernel properly.. thanks

Hi!
I realize this is a very old thread, but it seems to be one of the few addressing the (dis)advantages of the froyo vs the GB kernel (independently of the ROM!).
The 720p-recording is really not important to me, but battery life is and I just read here that it would be better on GB kernel.
Do any of you have further experience with regards to battery-life difference between Froyo and GB kernels (not ROMs)!? Is it a big difference (to what extent or through which features?)
I have a MB525 with red lens and Froyo kernel, so I could go for a GB-kernel.
I've recently rooted my smartphone and flashed WIUI (3.1.27, GB&MIUI-based) on it, because (1) my phone was slowing down, (2) I wanted not to have any bloatware anymore and (3) I wanted some apps that only run on Gingerbread/2.3+ (e.g. the offline-language-package-feature from Google Translate). Almost everything is now better.
BUT, my battery life got worse! I've now down-volted my smartphone to a stable point and set it to 'smartassv2', but am looking for further improvement for the battery life. As WIUI can be installed both on froyo and GB-kernel, I might also update the Kernel...but only want to take the plunge if it really would make a difference...
any advice or experience is welcome!

[Q] Best JB rom for defy+ and how do I install it?

First of all, Im 100% n00b. I've got no experience in roms...
Just rooted my Defy+ and looking to install a fast and stable rom.
Is there an ics/jelly bean one with everything working and with no bugs?(For daily use?)
Also plz tell me how to install it. I know you need to install 2ndinit, wipe caches and then flash the rom and google apps. ( And a lot of fixes)
What else do you need to do?
Any help will be really appreciated!

There are lots of ROMs that are at a point that they are daily-use ready. There is of course CM10 JB which I am personally running on my green lens defy. I love it. Asking which is best though will just start a fight. Your best bet is to select one and try it out. Do a forum search to locate a step by step walkthrough. Quarx has a good one in the FAQ I believe. Once you have played with one a little, try another. This will help you get comfortable with the process and help to understand what each step is doing. I have tried aokp, paranoidandroid, and cm9 and 10. So far my favorite is cm10. I use the minimalgapps to save room in the ROM. Make sure to search the forums before posting. Lots of information is already here. Happy flashing!
sent from the xda-developers app on my Motorola Defy (SOC) running CM10 (quarx nightly 20120912) with minimal gapps

anotherandroidn00b said:
Is there an ics/jelly bean one with everything working and with no bugs?(For daily use?)
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You will not get a JB rom without any bugs yet...

cm10 by quarx is good!

If you want speed go with cm 7 if you want the new features cm 10 (drains battery)

new to the defy.

I'm by no means a rookie when it comes to android. But this phone confuses the hell out of me. I read the all in one defy guide, and it helped. However, I want to run ics, especially with jb having certain features broken that I use. I don't have the phone yet as its in the mail and I'm compiling everything to root and rom.
So my question is, what sbf rom file should I rsd to run cm9? I also have a new defy+ battery coming, would this battery cause the battery % drop thats heavily discussed here.
Sent from my SGH-T989

davwman said:
I'm by no means a rookie when it comes to android. But this phone confuses the hell out of me. I read the all in one defy guide, and it helped. However, I want to run ics, especially with jb having certain features broken that I use. I don't have the phone yet as its in the mail and I'm compiling everything to root and rom.
So my question is, what sbf rom file should I rsd to run cm9? I also have a new defy+ battery coming, would this battery cause the battery % drop thats heavily discussed here.
Sent from my SGH-T989
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I've got an actual DEFY+ (MB526) and I've never had battery drops on any ROM's (tested more than 10 ROM's). I've read a lot about people with MB525's who bought DEFY+ battery and only had problems with it... Don't take my word for it, though and I hope it works out for you fine. Problems, like, it wouldn't charge to 100%. Don't know, Gingerbread kernel and a DEFY+ battd should be enough to make it work...should be
SBF ROM is not the way I would suggest, really... Messing with SBF's is not the smartest call.
What have you got? A DEFY on Froyo? Or Eclair? You should update to Froyo and then root using SuperOneClick and install 2ndInit (the installer is in the Themes&Apps subforum) and go ahead and flash any ROM in the custom recovery.
And may I ask what features does JB have broken compared to ICS? WiFi tethering doesn't work on ICS and does on JB, for a contrary example, though.
Cheers, mate! And welcome to the DEFY lot

That actually clarified a lot. Thanks. Not sure what is on the defy yet. Waiting for its arrival. The way you worded the process made this phone easier to understand as its just like every other moto phone out there.
Sent from my SGH-T989

I guess ill be running on the froyo kernel then with any rom i flash, correct? Also what jb rom would you suggest? It was my understanding that video recording didn't work.
Sent from my SGH-T989

davwman said:
I guess ill be running on the froyo kernel then with any rom i flash, correct? Also what jb rom would you suggest? It was my understanding that video recording didn't work.
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"Which ROM is best" type threads are not allowed on XDA because of the controversy and arguments that question inevitably generates. As it seems like your other questions have already been answered, I'm closing this thread to avoid that type of discussion.

[Q] In your opinion, most stable L3 SDmerge rom?

Hi, I've been looking through the forums and have been rather overwhelmed by the number of roms available at this point.
Things have come a very long way since I first rooted the phone months ago, and I haven't kept up to date with development recently.
I would love to test out multiple different roms on the L3 to find the best, but it's actually my girlfriends phone and she hates me "messing" with the phone too much, and as you must know, rom shootouts can take hours of flashing and testing. (I used to spend a lot of time doing this on my old motorola defy)
This is obviously a matter of opinion, but could I get any guidance on what would be the most STABLE and LAG FREE rom for this device?
Features are not an issue, this is just down to stability. The current setup on this device is an SDmerge stock based rom (cannot remember which as it's been a while) and there has been a lot of hangs and reboots. (I mean a LOT, rebooting about 3 or more times a day)
These are two roms that I've been looking at as standing out from the crowd, so comparisons from people who've used both would be awesome.
Any better suggestions are also obviously welcome:
Latte ~ lightweight + LG UI 3.2
MiniCM9 UNOFFICIAL for L3 E400
Hopefully, if enough good material is posted in the thread, I will create a rundown of fast, stable roms for this device with links.
Thanks to all the devs for their work on this device, with particular mention to Gellmar for his work on SDmerge and custom kernel. You, sir are a genius!

MiniCM9.
Or if you want 2.3.6, plain stock version + SDmerge: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250759
See also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326340

Latte v2 for me

MiniCM9 for me.
Or Jelly cast v6 RII.

gellmar created 2 specified recovery.img for each cm9 sdmerge and stock sdmerge. but some roms contain this recoverys and some others is not. so normal cwm can fully working with sdmerge rom? and what thing gellmar changed in his recovery/ any can answer me. thanks

So it seems that Mini CM9 is a good one.
We installed Latte, but after about a day it started to noticeably hang and lag, with more than one reboot.
It was a clean install (wipe of user data, cache, davlik etc.) so the install wasn't the issue.
Mini CM9 worked well, but a few apps struggled to access the camera correctly. Namely: Snapchat which returns a green screen when trying to take a photo.
Currently running this: Cyanoid Rom
Which seems to work well, but as it is based on CM9 it carries the same issue regarding Snapchat and some other apps.
Is anyone aware of a fix for this camera issue?
Aside from that, I'd recommend the rom linked above, as much as MiniCM9. Seems stable, and feature rich.

Stupidchavs said:
Which seems to work well, but as it is based on CM9 it carries the same issue regarding Snapchat and some other apps.
Is anyone aware of a fix for this camera issue?
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Nope, all CM9 ROMs are affected. Green screen is also in Google Goggles. And Skype video-calling doesn't work, but works on 2.3.6 ROMs.

f3tus said:
Nope, all CM9 ROMs are affected. Green screen is also in Google Goggles. And Skype video-calling doesn't work, but works on 2.3.6 ROMs.
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Is this to do with the kernels interaction with the camera?
Or could it maybe be fixed by replacing camera app, or editing build.prop?
Would be great if someone could shine some light

Most Stable with a great SDmerge support is Cyanoid, because we realize 2 different versions, one for NOn-sdmerge devices and one edited for Sdmerge devices, with some improvements,and NOT just a step 4 copy/paste into zip, the differences flashing a rom and then step 4 or flashing a Sdmerge designed rom is the stability of it and its speed, you can choose the rom u want, because each one have its different features

In my opinion every stock 2.3.6 Rom is stable ...in ics time most stable I used is mini cm9 ....but I use stock ROM cuz camera quality is better any one know how improve cm9 camera????

zombienotdead said:
In my opinion every stock 2.3.6 Rom is stable ...in ics time most stable I used is mini cm9 ....but I use stock ROM cuz camera quality is better any one know how improve cm9 camera????
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Camera 360 takes much better images than the stock CM9 camera.
And I'm experiencing so much slowdown, and a tonne of reboots on stock,
Is this a common issue? Any fix to recommend?

In my opinion I'll opt out for Cyanoid. It's the far most the perfect one with awesome features. So, you could just give it a shot. I've using it for a couple of months now. And other one of the best ROM is RayogenMod. It's also pretty good. I've tried out both of them..