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Who will give the first ROM

As the title states.. at this moment there is absolutely no reason why we dont have custom roms floating around for our devices yet, other then the fact that noone has taken the time to make one
We have a fully functional recovery from koush as far as pushing custom roms go.. we also have a fully functional froyo base to work with as well as a froyo .32 kernal.. nothing is stopping us at this point other then the fact that noones done one yet
Whos going to be the first to throw one out there?
Whoever it is, please remove all the bloat... Deodex all the system files for easy theming and try to zipalign and optimize however you can

This thread is absolutely useless, not to mention in the wrong section.

anybody can post it. But why sud be Start to Speculate or Gamble. When it will be available it will be like we got Froyo 2.2 stock image

Joe92T said:
As the title states.. at this moment there is absolutely no reason why we dont have custom roms floating around for our devices yet, other then the fact that noone has taken the time to make one
We have a fully functional recovery from koush as far as pushing custom roms go.. we also have a fully functional froyo base to work with as well as a froyo .32 kernal.. nothing is stopping us at this point other then the fact that noones done one yet
Whos going to be the first to throw one out there?
Whoever it is, please remove all the bloat... Deodex all the system files for easy theming and try to zipalign and optimize however you can
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if your phone has root you can remove all the bloat you want and install whatever you want. you should get started with root explorer

Make your own F***ing rom then if you dont feel like waiting for somone to make one. Anyway I bet there is many people working on roms right for the droid x

So many smartasses. How about you guys lay off and get a life, the guy was just asking a question.

I agree with the OP, right around the time that koush released his recovery there were a bunch of people talking about coming out with froyo roms (birdman and rainabba namely)but without the froyo kernel, then the leaked froyo came out and nothing ever happened since.
Now we have a froyo kernel to work with, we just need a stock android build without any oem customization.

Bootloader still locked?
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I dont feel like we really need a new rom, whats it gonna do for me? It will either be 2.1 or the 2.2 leak with different themes/different apps, something I could and would rather do myself.
Outside of theming, I dont see the point.

LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
I dont feel like we really need a new rom, whats it gonna do for me? It will either be 2.1 or the 2.2 leak with different themes/different apps, something I could and would rather do myself.
Outside of theming, I dont see the point.
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There is definately benefits to be had as far as performance goes as well.. cleaning up the froyo build and optimizing / zipaligning the apks will get things going well, and as you said as far as theming goes, a completely deodexed rom will allow complete themes from A to Z not just status bar things, could even put a new lockscreen in place that may not have any crazy lag

I could see an industrious dev cleaning up the froyo build a little, but I have had almost zero issues with this build, outside of a build.prop change. We will see one soon I am sure, hell, Im just glad we finally have a custom recovery.

LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
I could see an industrious dev cleaning up the froyo build a little, but I have had almost zero issues with this build, outside of a build.prop change. We will see one soon I am sure, hell, Im just glad we finally have a custom recovery.
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Yeah i just find it humerous that everyone was complaining we dont have a custom recovery and the world is goin to end, and im not going to buy a Droid X because the bootloader is locked etc etc yada yada... but then when we actually get rom flashing capabilities, noone even uses it lol

Isn't the bootloader for the Droid X still locked? IE no custom roms?
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They found a way around it, custom roms are doable now, just noones made one
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So, maybe this would be better asked in another thread, but how would I go about pulling the recovery image in order to customize it? I'm simply assuming that's how it's done, so if not, let me know. I would like to start messing with making some roms, but have no clue where to start as it seems to be all device-centric. Where does one learn all of this?

Joe92T said:
They found a way around it, custom roms are doable now, just noones made one
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I don't understand how it's doable with a locked bootloader? If someone created a clean froyo rom how would it boot? Wouldn't that be similar to removing all the apk's from the leaked rom and expecting it to boot?
Please tell me if I'm wrong...

bart77 said:
I don't understand how it's doable with a locked bootloader? If someone created a clean froyo rom how would it boot? Wouldn't that be similar to removing all the apk's from the leaked rom and expecting it to boot?
Please tell me if I'm wrong...
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We can do custom roms, but have to include and not modify the stock kernel. So, no modular overclocking I believe.
Basically, the first roms to come out will be de blur'd so to speak, and then AOSP roms will hit later. Promise Just a matter of time.
The original lockdown of the bootloader and "efuse" scared a lot of dev's off of getting the X. I only know a handful of people deving for the X, so I assume this is why customs roms are taking a while to come out.
Regardless, they'll be here soon enough. Patience

Im getting the x soon, and maybe i can whip up a rom
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Koush's recovery for 2.1? Will it work on 2.2?

Steeleio said:
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Koush's recovery for 2.1? Will it work on 2.2?
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Unless the 2.2 out isnt root friendly, it should work, but then again, i dont have an x
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Defy+ modding

Hi friends, I gonna buy a defy+, but i want to know what about modding. there's still cm9 support for it? there are ways to downgrade and use froyo kernel? I use to have a regular defy and battery always has been an issue for me, but love modding

qelavidamelleve said:
Hi friends, I gonna buy a defy+, but i want to know what about modding. there's still cm9 support for it? there are ways to downgrade and use froyo kernel? I use to have a regular defy and battery always has been an issue for me, but love modding
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Read this. CM9 is available for it.
Yes there is a way to downgrade but the ques is: Why would you want to?!

pranks1989 said:
Read this. CM9 is available for it.
Yes there is a way to downgrade but the ques is: Why would you want to?!
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There are roms that works over froyo kernel, like codename, and i like to try every rom haha

Okay.. Search in the forum u will get how to downgrade. I don't have the links as m writing from phone! Actually there is a Chinese froyo sbf with bl6! So u need to flash that sbf and then u get a froyo kernel.. However it is known to burn flash leds! So don't use it till u flash a nightly...
Sent from my MB526 using XDA

pranks1989 said:
Okay.. Search in the forum u will get how to downgrade. I don't have the links as m writing from phone! Actually there is a Chinese froyo sbf with bl6! So u need to flash that sbf and then u get a froyo kernel.. However it is known to burn flash leds! So don't use it till u flash a nightly...
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
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Do you have problems with the battery? do roms recognize it? i wanna have all the options!! like in my old defy, but with better battery

Nope not much problem in battery. Last time I checked it was charging fine. but I don't have long hours of experimenting with it because I gave it for servicing soon after that!!

[Q] Can anyone please help me here - Noob. <)

Hi, I'm a noob just bought a new Defy (my first Android device)
I know this will annoy most of you here, but I have been reading this forum for past few days but couldn't come to a conclusion. So thought of posting a new thead.
I have a Defy running on Eclair and wanted to upgrade to 2.3 or to some custom ROMS, but I got too much confused reading all about Stock ROMS, CM7, CM9, MIUI and other Custom ROMS.
I just want to upgrade my phone from 2.1 and I desire a ROM which will give me Great Performance and Good Battery Life.
Can anyone here be kind enough and give me a simple explanation of what should I do.
You can post a wacky caption as well.
Thank for any help.

addu said:
Hi, I'm a noob just bought a new Defy (my first Android device)
I know this will annoy most of you here, but I have been reading this forum for past few days but couldn't come to a conclusion. So thought of posting a new thead.
I have a Defy running on Eclair and wanted to upgrade to 2.3 or to some custom ROMS, but I got too much confused reading all about Stock ROMS, CM7, CM9, MIUI and other Custom ROMS.
I just want to upgrade my phone from 2.1 and I desire a ROM which will give me Great Performance and Good Battery Life.
Can anyone here be kind enough and give me a simple explanation of what should I do.
You can post a wacky caption as well.
Thank for any help.
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congrats on your new defy.
read this
any other help pm me or post it.

Thanks, that clears lot things.
Can you suggest me which ROM should i choose? as i said in previous post i want to upgrade. I'm just confused with so many options. Should i go for stock ones or the custom ones? Or which one is most stable. M just looking for speed and battery life.
Thanka for your time.
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Don't have time to give instructions now, but DO NOT flash a full 2.3.6 sbf/upgrade to 2.3.6! Stay on froyo. It is possible to run all custom roms with this as base, also the newest 2.3.6 gingerbread ROMs. Someone please specify for the guy^^
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Okay thanks mate for that info.
Currently i'm on Eclair so i think first of all i have to upgrade to froyo then i can think of going to cm7 and othet custom roms, right?
As you all would have played with lot of custom roms, can anyone suggest me which one should i go with?
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It's really just a matter of taste. Here are some of the main categories of custom roms:
MIUI
CM7
Modified stock roms
CM9 and CM9 based ICS roms (that's ICS, android 4 . Not stable yet, maybe never 100% without unlocked bootloader )
There are many different flavours to choose from within most of these categories, but there are already a lot of threads about this. You need to read, read, read before you start flashing custom roms. Have you read the All-in-One Defy Beginner's guide? Every defy user should read it. Every single day a noob starts a new thread about a bricked defy: "please help me, my father will kill me if he finds out about my defy", etc, etc. These questions have ben answered 1,000,000 times already, so use the search function before posting!
By the way this thread should be moved to the Q&A section. Moderator will take care of that when it's reported...

Questions go in the Q&A section

Good and stable ROMS

Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time

MRsf27 said:
Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
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The best thing about these ROM is you can try them for yourself and see if it work for you.
A lot of people don't follow the instruction and complain all the time, there are people enjoying the ROM and you will never hear from them. My respect to the developers who do great work, because of them I have the latest and best android experience ever, for the last two years I have no need to upgrade my phone.
Try them all.
Robert

kwabby said:
The best thing about these ROM is you can try them for yourself and see if it work for you.
A lot of people don't follow the instruction and complain all the time, there are people enjoying the ROM and you will never hear from them. My respect to the developers who do great work, because of them I have the latest and best android experience ever, for the last two years I have no need to upgrade my phone.
Try them all.
Robert
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Cool, thanks alot for the advice, I'd still like to know what other ROMs are out there tho so that I can try them all out one day
Is there a good kernel? I'm not too educated on kernels lol

Hi
Rooting isn't a must for installing custom roms you can always use fastboot tool to install custom recovery
I've flashed one million custom roms to my i9023. And what I learned from it is flashing most of them was just a waste of time. However, if I hadn't done this, I wouldn't have known what to choose now. Gingbread roms are really fast and responsive. However they are not so smooth when it comes to scrolling. Also gingerbread roms lack a lot of nice features that come in later builds.
ICS was a misunderstanding for me. It was slow, laggy but the functionality was better than gingerbread. I was ready to sell my nexus because of that disappointment.
Finally Jelly Bean came along. And that, my friend is something different. Project butter makes the phone so smooth, scrolling is superb, animations and applications seems so smooth now. Speed of gingerbread(almost) and looks and functionality of ics
You can try every rom you can. You're gonna waste a lot of time just on flashing restoring, flashing and restoring and so on. You might even get frustrated. Or you can try this and simply start liking your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366
This is pretty stock, just the way I like it. It's freaking smooth, it hardly ever lags, perfect to bring you some smile from using your nexus most of other roms always come up with some bug or lack of some feature that works on stock rom. The rom I mentioned simply works. Trust me and install this one and you won't regret
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium

nexususer1 said:
Hi
Rooting isn't a must for installing custom roms you can always use fastboot tool to install custom recovery
I've flashed one million custom roms to my i9023. And what I learned from it is flashing most of them was just a waste of time. However, if I hadn't done this, I wouldn't have known what to choose now. Gingbread roms are really fast and responsive. However they are not so smooth when it comes to scrolling. Also gingerbread roms lack a lot of nice features that come in later builds.
ICS was a misunderstanding for me. It was slow, laggy but the functionality was better than gingerbread. I was ready to sell my nexus because of that disappointment.
Finally Jelly Bean came along. And that, my friend is something different. Project butter makes the phone so smooth, scrolling is superb, animations and applications seems so smooth now. Speed of gingerbread(almost) and looks and functionality of ics
You can try every rom you can. You're gonna waste a lot of time just on flashing restoring, flashing and restoring and so on. You might even get frustrated. Or you can try this and simply start liking your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366
This is pretty stock, just the way I like it. It's freaking smooth, it hardly ever lags, perfect to bring you some smile from using your nexus most of other roms always come up with some bug or lack of some feature that works on stock rom. The rom I mentioned simply works. Trust me and install this one and you won't regret
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
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cool thanks man... ONE question before I begin... Im assuming the kernel is already in the ROM .zip file here right? Now if the kernel is seperate do you just add into the SD card like adding a ROM to the sd card? do you have to do anything under recovery?

Kernel is included. Just install this rom from the recovery kernels are always in a zip file, you install them like you install a rom.
But this time you don't have to even think about the kernel, because it's already built into whole rom zip file
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the pic & music issue is probably related to the bad Rom manager app update that put .nomedia files where they didn't belong.
I always run a new/updated Rom with its baked in kernel for a day or two to see how it does before flashing a separate kernel, unless I have major issues related to the baked in kernel. Not all devices act the same, even on the exact same setup.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

MRsf27 said:
Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
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If you're new to the whole flashing game with the android devices id say start with Flashing Custom Kernels. So you can get the the feel for what just the kernel can do for your phone. There's a couple well named ones that you might hear a lot about like the Matr1x Kernel, GLaDOS Kernel, Thalamus Kernel. For the most part a few of them have the same stuff but certain Kernels run faster or smoother. Once you get the hang of that then move to Custom ROMS. As everyone says you kinda have to try out Everything for yourself as 2 people can have 2 completely different experiences with flashing. Essentially though, the Names that you see a lot are typically the most liked ROMS and Kernels for there Features and Stability.
Happy Flashing

I think its the other way around due to fact that I would not recommend flashing a kernel over stock ota without backing up first. Reason for this is that if you want to get an ota update with the stock ROM it won't work if the kernel is different from the one Google provides (experienced this problem while trying to flash a completely stock Google provided rom). So I would first flash a ROM and test it, trying as many features and see if that's what I like and then start experimenting with different kernels as most might not be stable for your particular phone. I am a vanilla Android type of person nonetheless.
Note: the rom a developer chooses are most likely the ones that he thinks are the most stable so in theory you should not run into any problem with it.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2

Hey guys i really appreciate the advise. Just to let you all know, I flashed AOKP kang ROM and it's so smooth and quick. I also flashed a matrix kernel v.22 (believe its the cfc version). However, I was really hoping to overclock my cpu a little to get some better gaming performance. I'm looking everything under the ROM settings and the actual phone settings to see if there's anything to change for the cpu.
How do I overclock the cpu??? I know there's customizable roms where you can overclock the cpu for games then tone it down for normal usage and what not; that's really what I wanted.

MRsf27 said:
Hey guys i really appreciate the advise. Just to let you all know, I flashed AOKP kang ROM and it's so smooth and quick. I also flashed a matrix kernel v.22 (believe its the cfc version). However, I was really hoping to overclock my cpu a little to get some better gaming performance. I'm looking everything under the ROM settings and the actual phone settings to see if there's anything to change for the cpu.
How do I overclock the cpu??? I know there's customizable roms where you can overclock the cpu for games then tone it down for normal usage and what not; that's really what I wanted.
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I use a an APP called "NSTools" or "SetCPU"

I'm order to oc, you must be using a kernel that supports oc. The matr1x 22.5 (his jb version) doesn't support oc, but he should have a new version it soon. I can't say if it can be overclocked though.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2

Hey thanks for the info... I was just be wondering if you know of any kernels that would go with aokp kang that I can over clock?
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OK wow I just installed my previous apps and now the phone is slow and buggy as hell.. must've rebooted itself at least 10 Tims in then last hour while I using it
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good question.. personally I use codename (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839249) with air kernel(that supports oc, even if I set max cpu 1000 as default).. really fast, no lags with good battery life and everything seems work great. I've tried a lot of roms and a lot of them are really good (I like to change a lot) and in my opinion you have to try a lot of them and chose your favourite
p.s.every time you flash a rom or kernel is better to make a backup(and then a wipe), so if something went wrong you can restore the phone as it was before.. sometimes kernel is not included in rom, you have to check it in phone informations.
I hope this was what you needed

serafo said:
good question.. personally I use codename (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839249) with air kernel(that supports oc, even if I set max cpu 1000 as default).. really fast, no lags with good battery life and everything seems work great. I've tried a lot of roms and a lot of them are really good (I like to change a lot) and in my opinion you have to try a lot of them and chose your favourite
p.s.every time you flash a rom or kernel is better to make a backup(and then a wipe), so if something went wrong you can restore the phone as it was before.. sometimes kernel is not included in rom, you have to check it in phone informations.
I hope this was what you needed
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well i'll tell you right now, AOKP kang is not for me. Keeps crashing, almost all ****ing day. Its rebooted itself atleast 10 times within the last 10 mins. i click something and it freezes and crashes and reboots... ts ****ing ridiculous... I'm gonna go to codename

MRsf27 said:
well i'll tell you right now, AOKP kang is not for me. Keeps crashing, almost all ****ing day. Its rebooted itself atleast 10 times within the last 10 mins. i click something and it freezes and crashes and reboots... ts ****ing ridiculous... I'm gonna go to codename
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ahahah ok thanks for the information you saved my time
aww I forgot a thing.. usually results are different for different models. I have i9023 but I think it's good even in other models
let me know your opinion about it

serafo said:
ahahah ok thanks for the information you saved my time
aww I forgot a thing.. usually results are different for different models. I have i9023 but I think it's good even in other models
let me know your opinion about it
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Hey I actually checked out that codename jellybean thread you showed me... I clicked on the link and their zip is 3.1.0 and i have 3.3.2 downloaded on my computer.... I got the file from nexusshacks.com - am i missing something? Also, Im not sure if there's a kernal that comes with it, so i was wondering if there is any kernels and if there is, do you have a link?:cyclops:
EDIT: I'm going to have to apologize to AOKP. I think the ROM i was running on my phone was a buggy ROM, the unstable one before BUILD 1. I didnt realize this until I watched a video on nexusshacks.com.. but either way i flashed codename jellybean

MRsf27 said:
Hey I actually checked out that codename jellybean thread you showed me... I clicked on the link and their zip is 3.1.0 and i have 3.3.2 downloaded on my computer.... I got the file from nexusshacks.com - am i missing something? Also, Im not sure if there's a kernal that comes with it, so i was wondering if there is any kernels and if there is, do you have a link?:cyclops:
EDIT: I'm going to have to apologize to AOKP. I think the ROM i was running on my phone was a buggy ROM, the unstable one before BUILD 1. I didnt realize this until I watched a video on nexusshacks.com.. but either way i flashed codename jellybean
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I gave you the link with 3.3.2.. even because it's the same ad 3.3.0 but updated:laugh:
kernel is not included in that rom.. I use air kernel, which has everything you asked for (use nstools to control it). this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842

serafo said:
I gave you the link with 3.3.2.. even because it's the same ad 3.3.0 but updated:laugh:
kernel is not included in that rom.. I use air kernel, which has everything you asked for (use nstools to control it). this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
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hey, I just flashed codename and air kernel (no modifications) and i just downloaded NStools. It came as an apk. file, I was just wondering what to do with this? do i just throw it into my SD card?

[Q] Any improvements on upgrading to Jellybeans from Stock ROM???

HI people,
is there Any improvements on upgrading to Jellybeans from Stock ROM??? on Motorola DEFY +
Regards,
Vic

Improvement? From what?
To get JB on your Defy+ you just;
1. Root your phone. (How is depend on your phone's current build number. Check it out Settings> About phone.)
2. Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795647 to learn how to install CM10 JB custom rom.

intemptesta said:
Improvement? From what?
To get JB on your Defy+ you just;
1. Root your phone. (How is depend on your phone's current build number. Check it out Settings> About phone.)
2. Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795647 to learn how to install CM10 JB custom rom.
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I meant like CPU performance , and other resource usages.
Currently my defy + does not run games without any flickers. It flickers and the game lags some time which annoys me most.
So I was hoping if I upgrade the SBF then If I can play games with out any flickr.
I was playing temple run etc but the game flickers but the same is not for my friends Samsung Galaxy Y. which is a lower end spec phone compared to DEFY but that phone lets me play without any issues.

Um, see if you want to play a game properly, cm7 from what I hear, is the best ROM for our defy. The cms after this are for people who want to experiment. Who want to be with the current os, if things go well and the latest kernel then maybe things will look up, again we don't know but with the guy who gave us a reason to stick with this device, least you can do is try it All that has to be said is try them, try them all just so you know which one works for you, your needs!
Sent by an alien.

Ah I understand now.
Don't feel bad, you can blame moto Stock roms for lacking performance while our Defy's HW wasn't that bad.
Using custom roms is the way to get the most from Defy/Defy+, apart from cm7 (which is meanly developed for older mb525 defy) you may try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839
[ROM][GB][2012.08.21]MS2Ginger, 720p, panorama - 2nd-system, multiboot,softsimunlock
It's more Defy+ friendly than the other.
And I sense some misconception, Defy/Defy+ can't use SBF flashing to go custom rom due to locked-bootloader.
We use 2ndinit bootmenu to work around and install custom rom, use SBF flashing only when you need to revert to Stock.
Read on and goodluck.