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800mhz is enough

Quick, and great battery. Overclocking is pointless unless you play games on your phone, or care about your quadrant score.
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Yup, I agree with you

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I had a Milestone for 1.5 years on stock ROM (that is 550Mhz), pretty much served most of my needs perfectly....you know, the normal stuff you use your phone for.

I rarely notice my phone is underclocked... with smartass governor, it's more responsive than stock clocks with a less responsive governor.
Battery life doesn't seem improved, but I know that my weak signal is causing the problem here.

synaesthetic said:
I rarely notice my phone is underclocked... with smartass governor, it's more responsive than stock clocks with a less responsive governor.
Battery life doesn't seem improved, but I know that my weak signal is causing the problem here.
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I Sunni it's different for me.. When in use it seems to drain about the same but last night I set the phone down around 11 worth 84% battery life and got up at 6 with 78% still and that's setting the governor to smartass

It's bad for me because my phone goes without signal about half the time in my apartment. I'll be moving soon so it's not a huge issue, but it is kind of disconcerting to feel my phone heating up from just sitting around doing nothing.

synaesthetic said:
It's bad for me because my phone goes without signal about half the time in my apartment. I'll be moving soon so it's not a huge issue, but it is kind of disconcerting to feel my phone heating up from just sitting around doing nothing.
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You could try disabling the governor and let one like, setcpu do it? Before I went Incredikernel I set up a profile in setcpu that whenever my screen was off it wouldn't run any faster then 128MHz but when on was set for either on demand or performance. Using two governors at the same time causes lag I've found so you'd have to be running a rom that doesn't already have one (that you can see and change) built in

Yea, this is true. OC'ing I thought it was giving me speed, but I actually took the time to really see the speed on OC'ing and to me it dosent seem to change. Well maybe alittle bit, but still. But yea, so I just hit 1ghz and I just leave it there.
Pete's latest w/Yennob-Base2 kernel at 1ghz and its going good.

kijp15 said:
Yea, this is true. OC'ing I thought it was giving me speed, but I actually took the time to really see the speed on OC'ing and to me it dosent seem to change. Well maybe alittle bit, but still. But yea, so I just hit 1ghz and I just leave it there.
Pete's latest w/Yennob-Base2 kernel at 1ghz and its going good.
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Yeah I honestly can't tell a difference between running at 998 MHz and 1,113 MHz other than a physically hotter phone and faster battery loss lol

IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Yeah I honestly can't tell a difference between running at 998 MHz and 1,113 MHz other than a physically hotter phone and faster battery loss lol
HTC-Incredible on Android 2.3.5
CyanogenMod-7 Nightly (8/18)
Chad's Incredikernel-GB #9 (SA)
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Ahaha, yea. Everytime I would hit 1.3ghz or 1.4ghz for the fun of it, my phone would get that way too. It would get hot and it feels like it would explode in my face and yea battery life would drop like crazy.

Personally, I find myself running into a wall with RAM more than with processor power. I really hope the next Nexus at least doubles it.

No problems with overclocking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16791637&postcount=124

Well the SuperOSR is only for nexus s.. If there was one for the ns4g, well then after reading that, I would be OC'ing like a maniac.

zorak950 said:
Personally, I find myself running into a wall with RAM more than with processor power. I really hope the next Nexus at least doubles it.
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This. I'm really feeling the loss of RAM coming from a mytouch 4G. That extra 256MB really made a difference. Using juwe's RAM optimization script seems to help, though.

Ehm, how can Ram be a problem?
Android is managing it itself and can't run out of it, usually.
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rentaric said:
Ehm, how can Ram be a problem?
Android is managing it itself and can't run out of it, usually.
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Things get killed that you don't want getting killed, and when it starts to run low things slow down considerably. It's not that something won't run, but it may run badly, or cause other apps to close that you were multitasking on, which is inconvenient.

I average 16 hours with normal for me use, which is a lot of texting, Facebook, internet browsing, listening to music.
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Skimp Killah said:
I average 16 hours with normal for me use, which is a lot of texting, Facebook, internet browsing, listening to music.
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How so? I normally get around 9-10 hours max with moderate use, also depending on the signal i get half the time.

I use netarchys latest bfs kernel with proton to undervolt all CPU frequencies to -20mv. And I have the CPU limited to 100-800mhz, with the on demand governer. With those 2 thing I get 15-16 hours everyday. I also usually let my batter get down to atleast 5% before charging.
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Skimp Killah said:
Quick, and great battery. Overclocking is pointless unless you play games on your phone, or care about your quadrant score.
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it's true
i always Under clock the phone with SetCPU to save battery life

CPU Temperature?

Hello,
I just bought an N7 (16GB) a couple days ago.
Rooted with stock rom and Faux kernel. However my CPU Temperature is at 110-122 degrees F. Is this supposed to happen.
Haven't played any Tegra games since I've rooted it, but that's seems a little high to begin with.
Mods, feel free to move this if it is not in the correct forum.
Thanks,
Cyanide

Cyanidex00 said:
Hello,
I just bought an N7 (16GB) a couple days ago.
Rooted with stock rom and Faux kernel. However my CPU Temperature is at 110-122 degrees F. Is this supposed to happen.
Haven't played any Tegra games since I've rooted it, but that's seems a little high to begin with.
Mods, feel free to move this if it is not in the correct forum.
Thanks,
Cyanide
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I am not sure how tablets work but in the PC building community, 122F (about 50C) is not hot at all, it's actually a decent idling temp. Like I said, I don't know how tablet CPU/GPUs work, but at that temp you shouldn't have to worry much.

Thanks Mav,
Doesn't feel overly hot, but looking at the actual temperature just worried me a little bit.

Cyanidex00 said:
Hello,
I just bought an N7 (16GB) a couple days ago.
Rooted with stock rom and Faux kernel. However my CPU Temperature is at 110-122 degrees F. Is this supposed to happen.
Haven't played any Tegra games since I've rooted it, but that's seems a little high to begin with.
Mods, feel free to move this if it is not in the correct forum.
Thanks,
Cyanide
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Have you changed the max clock speed? If you're not playing graphic intense games 110-120 degrees is pretty high. The warmest mine has gotten even while gaming is 104 degrees.

I use System Tuner Pro to change the SysCtl options. I just used the recommended settings, I don't adjust anything.
Since both SetCPU and STP have clock adjusters, is that going to make a difference or will it cause problems?

Cyanidex00 said:
I use System Tuner Pro to change the SysCtl options. I just used the recommended settings, I don't adjust anything.
Since both SetCPU and STP have clock adjusters, is that going to make a difference or will it cause problems?
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Often times two CPU management apps running together will cause overheating and performance problems. I can't say if that's what yours is or not, but I would eliminate the possibility if I were trying to reduce heat, by clearing the app data on those apps and uninstalling them, rebooting, and installing only the one you will use.
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50C is normal. 100C is the nexus 7 safety shut down temp(itll shut off when reacing 100C). 40-65C is a normal range when cpu is active, maybe higher when using cpu intensive games.

airmaxx23 said:
Have you changed the max clock speed? If you're not playing graphic intense games 110-120 degrees is pretty high. The warmest mine has gotten even while gaming is 104 degrees.
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You're probably getting that confused with battery temperature.
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cpu tempature 91°C

So am running classic stability test 2.7, and I've ran this before and my CPU get to 60°C or after like 15 minutes, I ran it today out of sheer curiosity and it started to show 91°C. Am using cm with there kernel since I recently flashed the latest nightly and thought how would it differ from matrixes. Another thing it can be that the values are being incorrectly displayed. Is this something I should worry about? Am really not in the mood for an RMA and losing my phone. Shouldnt of the system shut itself down after a certain limit as a fail safe?

m4r0v3r said:
So am running classic stability test 2.7, and I've ran this before and my CPU get to 60°C or after like 15 minutes, I ran it today out of sheer curiosity and it started to show 91°C. Am using cm with there kernel since I recently flashed the latest nightly and thought how would it differ from matrixes. Another thing it can be that the values are being incorrectly displayed. Is this something I should worry about? Am really not in the mood for an RMA and losing my phone. Shouldnt of the system shut itself down after a certain limit as a fail safe?
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Are you sure it is Celsius and not Fahrenheit? Is about 33 degrees Celsius. At 91 degrees it would have shut down and rebooted a long time before reaching that temperature.

Trickster mod says its °C so?
edit: the device itself gets very very hot which am sure if it was running at 30 it would be fairly cool would it not?

m4r0v3r said:
So am running classic stability test 2.7, and I've ran this before and my CPU get to 60°C or after like 15 minutes, I ran it today out of sheer curiosity and it started to show 91°C. Am using cm with there kernel since I recently flashed the latest nightly and thought how would it differ from matrixes. Another thing it can be that the values are being incorrectly displayed. Is this something I should worry about? Am really not in the mood for an RMA and losing my phone. Shouldnt of the system shut itself down after a certain limit as a fail safe?
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- touch the back, if it's 91C your fingers will know.
- RMA because you run a heavy benchmark test (I never do, no opinion on that) and it -logically- heated up..?

Vangelis13 said:
- touch the back, if it's 91C your fingers will know.
- RMA because you run a heavy benchmark test (I never do, no opinion on that) and it -logically- heated up..?
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it was very hot I had to put it down so am guessing its 90C, but now its a lot better, it seems it wasn't throttling proper? it attempted to run the entire thing at 1.5ghz constantly, rather than it's usually clocking down to 1.1ghz. Now it's throttling and while its at 78C, it just feels warm and it actually being managed.
I flashed back to matrix's kernel and prefed to use the scaling test which would probably be closer to real life usage and its running 45C. I really like CM and don't want to flash back to stock but I may end up doing it

Note to self
Don't run stability tests
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90c will probobly burn your skin.
it was mistake.

Must be a mistake. 91 degrees Celsius is almost 200 Degrees Fahrenheit, that would melt the plastic on the phone, and burn your fingers.

ScumDroid said:
Must be a mistake. 91 degrees Celsius is almost 200 Degrees Fahrenheit, that would melt the plastic on the phone, and burn your fingers.
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not true. ive forced mine to hit 100C. its the cpu temp, not the temp of the outside of your phone. ive even hit 110C with my galaxy nexus. it doesnt stay at those temps long enough to melt your phone, lol.
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So am running classic stability test 2.7, and I've ran this before and my CPU get to 60°C or after like 15 minutes, I ran it today out of sheer curiosity and it started to show 91°C. Am using cm with there kernel since I recently flashed the latest nightly and thought how would it differ from matrixes. Another thing it can be that the values are being incorrectly displayed. Is this something I should worry about? Am really not in the mood for an RMA and losing my phone. Shouldnt of the system shut itself down after a certain limit as a fail safe?
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stability tests are meant to push your cpu to its limits. pushing the cpu to its limits will create lots of heat. it is meant to do that. if youre using stability tests, you can not complain about heat. its like putting your car in neutral then flooring the gas pedal, itll cause your engine to get hot, especially if you do it for 15 minutes.

simms22 said:
not true. ive forced mine to hit 100C. its the cpu temp, not the temp of the outside of your phone. ive even hit 110C with my galaxy nexus. it doesnt stay at those temps long enough to melt your phone, lol.
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ahh k my bad, I didnt realize it was internal temp. Thats crazy you hit 110 c the most ive ever seen mine hit is 40 c

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ahh k my bad, I didnt realize it was internal temp. Thats crazy you hit 110 c the most ive ever seen mine hit is 40 c
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safety cpu shutdown for the gnex is 110C. as soon as i saw it hit 110C, it shut down. but you really have to try to get it to that point by stressing it awfully hard. same with the nexus 4, 100C is the safety shutdown. running certain benchmarks or stress tests are the only ways to get it that hot. which is why it makes no sense that someone running a stress test for 15 minutes is complaining about heat, asking if he should rma his device.

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ahh k my bad, I didnt realize it was internal temp. Thats crazy you hit 110 c the most ive ever seen mine hit is 40 c
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I think you are referring to battery temp and not CPU temp. Unless you live somewhere very cold it would be quite difficult for your CPU not to go over 40c
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Alex240188 said:
I think you are referring to battery temp and not CPU temp. Unless you live somewhere very cold it would be quite difficult for your CPU not to go over 40c
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Canada its fkin freezing!! just checked set cpu and its 23 c, but im just scrolling through twitter, not really doing anything else.

The points that I would be concerned with temps are
Battery > 50°C
CPU > 80°C
This is based on stock thermal throttle at 60°C CPU
On Franco kernel I have upped my throttle limit to 70°C so I wouldn't be concerned unless it went above 85.
You will know if your battery is at a dangerous temperature because it will be very uncomfortable to hold
I just played some beach buggy blitz for 10 mins.
CPU jumped up 20° from idle up to 50° but again well within my tolerance
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My nexus 4 cpu temperature stays at 40°C or more and reaches 60°C when playing GTA for instance. Should i be worried? BTW im running faux kernel with intellidemand and eco mode

Nexuzx said:
My nexus 4 cpu temperature stays at 40°C or more and reaches 60°C when playing GTA for instance. Should i be worried? BTW im running faux kernel with intellidemand and eco mode
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no.
for the record am not asking if I can RMA, am happy with my device and really don't need to lose it for a week. But this just started happening more frequently. Sometimes the thermald ****s up and it doesn't throttle at all, at times I could be just playing GTA, Worms, Plague etc I usually don't notice because the phones down on the table, pick it up and owwwww flashing back to matrix solved the majority of it tbh. Right now it's sitting on 31C idle, it'll be about 40-50C on chrome funnily enough, and then 60ishC on games, pushing 70 depending how long I leave it on. I see that as fairly normal tbh, but 90C? I wouldn't even trust my fan cooled i5 to go there.

And am back were I started just playing 2 minutes of batman and its at 70°C and burning my hand

wow 91° ?? its dangerous maybe your device will " BOOM" sometimes :0
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m4r0v3r said:
no.
for the record am not asking if I can RMA, am happy with my device and really don't need to lose it for a week. But this just started happening more frequently. Sometimes the thermald ****s up and it doesn't throttle at all, at times I could be just playing GTA, Worms, Plague etc I usually don't notice because the phones down on the table, pick it up and owwwww flashing back to matrix solved the majority of it tbh. Right now it's sitting on 31C idle, it'll be about 40-50C on chrome funnily enough, and then 60ishC on games, pushing 70 depending how long I leave it on. I see that as fairly normal tbh, but 90C? I wouldn't even trust my fan cooled i5 to go there.
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cool.
but yea, its possible to reach those high temps if, and only if, pushing your cpu. itll get warmer faster if your gpu is overclocked(is gpu overclocked in franco kernel?). now, if doing nothing and the phone gets that hot, thats a problem(software or hardware).

nah its not overclocked, atm its cooled down, although it does take a while to drop from a high temp to something low even on idle.

Nexus 4 overheating issue

I know that overheating in nexus 4 is common problem, but today after installing custom ROM CyanogenMod 10.1 my phone has started overheating more quickly. Is anybody know any solution of it?

Pawan24 said:
I know that overheating in nexus 4 is common problem, but today after installing custom ROM CyanogenMod 10.1 my phone has started overheating more quickly. Is anybody know any solution of it?
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overheating i doubt, what was the cpu and battery temperature? just because it feels warm, doesnt mean its overheated. when it actually overheats, first the cpu will lower in cpu speed(safety), then if that doesnt help itll shutdown. is the weather around you warm btw?

+1 @simms22
Also, if it's really getting to warm your phone would run unstable.

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overheating i doubt, what was the cpu and battery temperature? just because it feels warm, doesnt mean its overheated. when it actually overheats, first the cpu will lower in cpu speed(safety), then if that doesnt help itll shutdown. is the weather around you warm btw?
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Thanks for your replay, I still don't understand why my mobile has started getting warmer more quickly ever since I've installed custom rom. I've hardly played any graphics intensive game on it so far.
I don't know from where to know cpu and battery temperature. Do I need to install any application from playstore? Weather around here is warm. On average 35-40 degree temperature.

My phone CPU reaches 70˚C and battery 50˚C when driving in my car, charing with gps on a this time of the year(hot as hell here as well).
Everything seems to be find, didn't even turn itself yet so I doubt theres anything to worry about.
My gf forgot her phone in the car stand in the sun for a few hours, when she came back it wouldn't turn on until it was cooler so you can be sure your phone can take care of itself.

Maybe your governor was changed when you flashed the ROM, depending on the governor (like performance) your cpu clock speed may be increased more often then with the original governor.
You can check your governor with apps like no-frills cpu or setcpu and check the temperatures with cpu z

Pawan24 said:
Thanks for your replay, I still don't understand why my mobile has started getting warmer more quickly ever since I've installed custom rom. I've hardly played any graphics intensive game on it so far.
I don't know from where to know cpu and battery temperature. Do I need to install any application from playstore? Weather around here is warm. On average 35-40 degree temperature.
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its easier to use an app for battery and cpu temp. being 35-40C around you, id expect the phone to be warm most of the time. anyways, after installing a custom rom your device spends a lot of time syncing stuff. so itll be a little warmer than normal. after about a full battery cycle it should stop, and will be a little cooler. also, a reboot after several hours after a rom flash should help a little too.

Ok, thanks for your quick response.

[Q] Mahdi ROM: Temperature during intensive tasks!

Hi.
Question for Mahdi ROM users on the LG G2:
Coming from this thread, I'd like to know how Mahdi ROM's temperature is when you do intensive tasks, like playing games, running benchmarks etc. Does the device get hot? If possible, tell the temperature, what you were running, for how long, did the screen remain on etc.
Thanks.
Compass.

Compass Linux said:
Hi.
Question for Mahdi ROM users on the LG G2:
Coming from this thread, I'd like to know how Mahdi ROM's temperature is when you do intensive tasks, like playing games, running benchmarks etc. Does the device get hot? If possible, tell the temperature, what you were running, for how long, did the screen remain on etc.
Thanks.
Compass.
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Anytime you run an intensive game or the like your phone will get warm, no matter what phone it is. Benchmarks get warm too, however I find those to be useless.

It isnt useless, he's collecting informations about the black lines from a few roms...at least be happy that we have such guy on our G2 section, who is willing to help out as much as he can..

simon_lefisch said:
Anytime you run an intensive game or the like your phone will get warm, no matter what phone it is. Benchmarks get warm too, however I find those to be useless.
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If you've ever noticed anything abnormal with the temperature, please tell us. It's relevant to our interests. :good:
Compass.

kewkie said:
It isnt useless, he's collecting informations about the black lines from a few roms...at least be happy that we have such guy on our G2 section, who is willing to help out as much as he can..
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I think you misunderstood my post. I said benchmarks are useless.

define hot, it increases 5-10 degrees for me from a 29°c default temp

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define hot, it increases 5-10 degrees for me from a 29°c default temp
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Hot as in "it shouldn't be at this temperature at all while doing what it's doing".
So that means 39°C tops. That's a bit above human normal body temperature. Not bad.
If I remember well, playing Plants vs Zombies 2 gave me 47°C tops in GSAM Battery Monitor, without ever rebooting.
Thanks.
Compass.

yeah max I had was 50°C, but not very long.
I guess it can shoot up higher, but for usually when doing intensive stuff, its about 39. Not to bad.
was one build it was 42 also in rest. That wasn't to long though. pretty cool, new build and fixed haha

@Compass Linux - my device gets extremely hot on any aosp rom even on normal usage, like web browsing, texting, checking emails and reading certain articles on the web, the cpu temp ranges from 50*C-60*C at times even 70*C and it gets throttled down as i set my tmep trottle at 70*C.
battery temps range between 27*C to 43*C which is NOT normal so im no longer on any aosp roms. it scares me as for lithium batteries temps above 35*C is bad for its life. also none of these temps are good for the phone so now im on pardus hd 7.1 and my cpu temps are within the rage of 35-50*C and battery temps from 32-35 under the tasks which i mentioned earlier.

shriom_manerker said:
@Compass Linux - my device gets extremely hot on any aosp rom even on normal usage, like web browsing, texting, checking emails and reading certain articles on the web, the cpu temp ranges from 50*C-60*C at times even 70*C and it gets throttled down as i set my tmep trottle at 70*C.
battery temps range between 27*C to 43*C which is NOT normal so im no longer on any aosp roms. it scares me as for lithium batteries temps above 35*C is bad for its life. also none of these temps are good for the phone so now im on pardus hd 7.1 and my cpu temps are within the rage of 35-50*C and battery temps from 32-35 under the tasks which i mentioned earlier.
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cpu will happily run ~75c without throttling, max temp is 92C at which point it will turn off.

treebill said:
cpu will happily run ~75c without throttling, max temp is 92C at which point it will turn off.
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wtf ! thats so strange !!!!!!! thats just too high for me man. i always set throttle to 70. at times even at 58*C when the ambient temps are high in my locality. anything above 80*C is bad for any processor.

shriom_manerker said:
wtf ! thats so strange !!!!!!! thats just too high for me man. i always set throttle to 70. at times even at 58*C when the ambient temps are high in my locality. anything above 80*C is bad for any processor.
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If it was bad for the CPU why would it come from the factory to start throttling at 75?
I think you're mixing your views of desktop CPUs on to SOCs.
SOC (system on a chip) are crested to be passively cooled.
For this phone 30~50 idle/light tasks and unto 75c underload is perfectly normal and safe.
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yeah that seems about right according to so specifications