Quick, and great battery. Overclocking is pointless unless you play games on your phone, or care about your quadrant score.
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Yup, I agree with you
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I had a Milestone for 1.5 years on stock ROM (that is 550Mhz), pretty much served most of my needs perfectly....you know, the normal stuff you use your phone for.
I rarely notice my phone is underclocked... with smartass governor, it's more responsive than stock clocks with a less responsive governor.
Battery life doesn't seem improved, but I know that my weak signal is causing the problem here.
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I rarely notice my phone is underclocked... with smartass governor, it's more responsive than stock clocks with a less responsive governor.
Battery life doesn't seem improved, but I know that my weak signal is causing the problem here.
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I Sunni it's different for me.. When in use it seems to drain about the same but last night I set the phone down around 11 worth 84% battery life and got up at 6 with 78% still and that's setting the governor to smartass
It's bad for me because my phone goes without signal about half the time in my apartment. I'll be moving soon so it's not a huge issue, but it is kind of disconcerting to feel my phone heating up from just sitting around doing nothing.
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It's bad for me because my phone goes without signal about half the time in my apartment. I'll be moving soon so it's not a huge issue, but it is kind of disconcerting to feel my phone heating up from just sitting around doing nothing.
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You could try disabling the governor and let one like, setcpu do it? Before I went Incredikernel I set up a profile in setcpu that whenever my screen was off it wouldn't run any faster then 128MHz but when on was set for either on demand or performance. Using two governors at the same time causes lag I've found so you'd have to be running a rom that doesn't already have one (that you can see and change) built in
Yea, this is true. OC'ing I thought it was giving me speed, but I actually took the time to really see the speed on OC'ing and to me it dosent seem to change. Well maybe alittle bit, but still. But yea, so I just hit 1ghz and I just leave it there.
Pete's latest w/Yennob-Base2 kernel at 1ghz and its going good.
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Yea, this is true. OC'ing I thought it was giving me speed, but I actually took the time to really see the speed on OC'ing and to me it dosent seem to change. Well maybe alittle bit, but still. But yea, so I just hit 1ghz and I just leave it there.
Pete's latest w/Yennob-Base2 kernel at 1ghz and its going good.
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Yeah I honestly can't tell a difference between running at 998 MHz and 1,113 MHz other than a physically hotter phone and faster battery loss lol
IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Yeah I honestly can't tell a difference between running at 998 MHz and 1,113 MHz other than a physically hotter phone and faster battery loss lol
HTC-Incredible on Android 2.3.5
CyanogenMod-7 Nightly (8/18)
Chad's Incredikernel-GB #9 (SA)
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Ahaha, yea. Everytime I would hit 1.3ghz or 1.4ghz for the fun of it, my phone would get that way too. It would get hot and it feels like it would explode in my face and yea battery life would drop like crazy.
Personally, I find myself running into a wall with RAM more than with processor power. I really hope the next Nexus at least doubles it.
No problems with overclocking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16791637&postcount=124
Well the SuperOSR is only for nexus s.. If there was one for the ns4g, well then after reading that, I would be OC'ing like a maniac.
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Personally, I find myself running into a wall with RAM more than with processor power. I really hope the next Nexus at least doubles it.
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This. I'm really feeling the loss of RAM coming from a mytouch 4G. That extra 256MB really made a difference. Using juwe's RAM optimization script seems to help, though.
Ehm, how can Ram be a problem?
Android is managing it itself and can't run out of it, usually.
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Ehm, how can Ram be a problem?
Android is managing it itself and can't run out of it, usually.
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Things get killed that you don't want getting killed, and when it starts to run low things slow down considerably. It's not that something won't run, but it may run badly, or cause other apps to close that you were multitasking on, which is inconvenient.
I average 16 hours with normal for me use, which is a lot of texting, Facebook, internet browsing, listening to music.
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I average 16 hours with normal for me use, which is a lot of texting, Facebook, internet browsing, listening to music.
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How so? I normally get around 9-10 hours max with moderate use, also depending on the signal i get half the time.
I use netarchys latest bfs kernel with proton to undervolt all CPU frequencies to -20mv. And I have the CPU limited to 100-800mhz, with the on demand governer. With those 2 thing I get 15-16 hours everyday. I also usually let my batter get down to atleast 5% before charging.
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Quick, and great battery. Overclocking is pointless unless you play games on your phone, or care about your quadrant score.
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it's true
i always Under clock the phone with SetCPU to save battery life
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Well ill start off by saying I'm new here and this is my first post. I'm also very new to this stuff and have a lot to learn. A buddy of mine recently rooted and overclocked my phone using the sense 2.6.32.21 1.5ghz oc/uv kernel. I currently have it set to 1.19 max 768 min and am experiencing temps above 107 running emulators and just web browsing.. I am also seeing pretty poor batt life even using battery booster and advanced task killer.. any help is greatly appreciated!
Battery apps and task killers tend to have the opposite of their intended effect on battery. Android has a built in utility to watch battery usage, why do you need a 3rd party one? Also do some reading on task killers, you will see why they are unnecessary on Android. I've stopped using one and my phone runs faster and more stable than before.
768 min is VERY high. Might explain the heating and battery life drain quite a bit.
Try this for me, please. Set your governor to interactive and drop your min down to 245. Run that for a whole charge. You may be surprised.
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Also, I second the post above me. Advanced Task Killer and anything like it ultimately cause more harm than good. Battery apps, such as Juice Defender, also shouldn't be necessary. Although, it is YOUR phone.
Thanks a lot for the replys. I set the min to 245 and am seeing serious changes in temps. I also uninstalled atk but installed appkik. I am also still running battery booster but may get rid of it soon.. I feel like this phone should have better batt life. Any suggestions?
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Thanks a lot for the replys. I set the min to 245 and am seeing serious changes in temps. I also uninstalled atk but installed appkik. I am also still running battery booster but may get rid of it soon.. I feel like this phone should have better batt life. Any suggestions?
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well they gave some suggestions. which it seems you dont want to listen to. you dont need task killers of any kind
Sorry I'm stubborn. Uninstalling now
No disrespect here, but seriously, if you don't know what and why you're overclocking, don't know the inherent risks, etc, why are you doing it?
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No disrespect here, but seriously, if you don't know what and why you're overclocking, don't know the inherent risks, etc, why are you doing it?
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because all the cool kids are doing it smurf...duh.
But seriously, min. should not be set at anything greater then 245. Only use performance if you are benchmarking. Default at the moment should be interactive.
Just gonna add my 2 cents in from personal observation....after doing some reading on overlooking and stuff I've noticed when going into the different ## modes, the shift usually drops its processor cycles to pretty low numbers in the 200-300 mhz range when its just in standby or not doing anything...it only kicks it up when you need the power. So the heating up is probably caused by constantly running at what used to be its max territory...PLUS youre going above and beyond the original limits/specs at a constant so it never gets to relax even when the phone is idle...I hope that makes sense. So as one poster mentioned keep the min at the stock setting and if you really want to/need to then raise the max mhz to whatever your phone can handle reliably. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone who is more into the overlooked setups. Me personally, stock has been able to keep up with whatever I have thrown at it after 30 days and still getting 25+hrs on one charge.
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I currently have it governed at 245 max screen off. Running 1.2ghz max interactive with no task killers or batt savers. Batt life seems to be somewhat better but temps still creep past 105. Thanks a lot for the info
alittle off of the beaten path, but i tried runing 245/1801 interactive on evervolv and noticed alot of random reboots. set it back at on demand and am having good luck with that. why is everyone leaning towards interactive??
Excuse me if I am wrong it's early and im too lazy to reread up on it but I believe the difference is with on demand there is a slight delay(second or two) and it gradually kicks up to where it needs to be where is interactive is a spike the second you need it...
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alittle off of the beaten path, but i tried runing 245/1801 interactive on evervolv and noticed alot of random reboots. set it back at on demand and am having good luck with that. why is everyone leaning towards interactive??
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Interactive is, usually, a lot better for battery life.
If you look at your cpu's scaling history when on the two, TYPICALLY, you'll see a whole lot more time in higher frequencies using ondemand.
That's not to say, however, that with some devices and some kernels they will act the same.
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Can over clocking the phone can burn or cause damage to the hardware except excess battery usage and does overclock an 1ghz processor to 1.5 will really give a boost or its just a gimmick
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Excessive overclocking really did damage your hardware, depends on the quality.. Overclocking from 1.0ghz to 1.5ghz really give a performance boost, in benchmarking.. In real life, only noticeable in process hungry apps, such as 3d games.. Gimmick? Well, if its a gimmick, it won't give any sudden resets or lock ups.. The processor have a safety switch if the temperature increase because of oc'ing.. If it's to hardcore, for example, 1.0Ghz to 1.8Ghz or even 2.0Ghz, for sure you processor will overheat and lock ups.
Well, mine running at 1.5Ghz, no lock ups or whatever..
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Excessive overclocking really did damage your hardware, depends on the quality.. Overclocking from 1.0ghz to 1.5ghz really give a performance boost, in benchmarking.. In real life, only noticeable in process hungry apps, such as 3d games.. Gimmick? Well, if its a gimmick, it won't give any sudden resets or lock ups.. The processor have a safety switch if the temperature increase because of oc'ing.. If it's to hardcore, for example, 1.0Ghz to 1.8Ghz or even 2.0Ghz, for sure you processor will overheat and lock ups.
Well, mine running at 1.5Ghz, no lock ups or whatever..
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My phone is running quite happily on 1.84Ghz.No lock ups or overheating.
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My phone is running quite happily on 1.84Ghz.No lock ups or overheating.
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Good for you though.. Mine can only be stable at 1.7Ghz.. At 1.8Ghz, only about couple of mins gaming, and then hang till forever..
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Can over clocking the phone can burn or cause damage to the hardware except excess battery usage and does overclock an 1ghz processor to 1.5 will really give a boost or its just a gimmick
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You will barely notice the difference in most circumstances. Even if your phone runs fine at 1.5 or 1.8 ghz it will probably reduce the life of the chip over a prolonged period.
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I think it will give minor boost at the cost of burning your hardware
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it will help in cpu intensive tasks, that which require lots of calculations, math stuff, 3d drawing done via cpu, faster cpu, better...
in other tasks, don't even bother, there are lots of other things far slower then cpu.
downside, heating, battery drain, increased rate of damage..!
Im using SetCPU for saving battery life. Set the cpu for 384 while screen is off. Noticed quite a difference.
OP, your asking if a overclocked cpu will give a better performance or if it's a gimmick? Really??
Of course it will give you better performance, that goes without saying but the question is, are you willing to sacrifice battery life? The chip will most probably last for years and years if overclocked but 1 thing that kills chips is heat and volts.
I only overclock when I need to and when I'm done I go back to how it was, usually.
My phone is fast enough at 1GHz, dont need overclocking, all games and apps goes fine fine
Most OC kernals are also undervolted anyway so I wouldn't worry about it
to be honest, i use mine with "underclocked" at 800mhz, trying to get at least a half-hour of battery life... i don't see the point in overclock a 1ghz processor, imo, even with a speed gain, the bad side effects easily override the good ones...
i truly believe that overclock my old milestone was the main cause of the problem that happens after...
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to be honest, i use mine with "underclocked" at 800mhz, trying to get at least a half-hour of battery life... i don't see the point in overclock a 1ghz processor, imo, even with a speed gain, the bad side effects easily override the good ones...
i truly believe that overclock my old milestone was the main cause of the problem that happens after...
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I'd look at other reasons for your battery life, if it's really that bad.
I'm running at just a touch above 1GHz with no side affects what so ever and get 24+hrs with heavy use, 30+hrs with moderate use and 40+hrs with light use, and that's never turning wifi / 3G off unless I'm in bed when I switch to 2G.
At 1GHz the OCUV kernal I have installed uses less voltage than stock kernal at stock speeds so in theory it's actually safer.
It's not that bad, but it's not so great as yours too. I got about 16hrs with 'hard' use, what is enought most time, but sometimes i get in home with the blinking orange led. Quite annoying...
I try my best to improve the battery life, but i was becoming a battery freak, or something like that, always checking currentwidget...
I get 3 or 4ma at stand by, what is considered normal, i guess... and always use full brightness, hate to use anything bellow...
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It's not that bad, but it's not so great as yours too. I got about 16hrs with 'hard' use, what is enought most time, but sometimes i get in home with the blinking orange led. Quite annoying...
I try my best to improve the battery life, but i was becoming a battery freak, or something like that, always checking currentwidget...
I get 3 or 4ma at stand by, what is considered normal, i guess... and always use full brightness, hate to use anything bellow...
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Full brightness is your problem. I bet it uses like 70% of the current while you use your phone.
going up to 1.8GHz still running stable, thats crazy man!
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Full brightness is your problem. I bet it uses like 70% of the current while you use your phone.
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Yep, you are correct, it's using about 75% of the battery...
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Any performance boost on 1.8 ghz
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As batteries get older do they tend to run hotter? Or just make the phone hotter in general? I remember the phone running pretty cool in the beginning now it gets quite toasty from time to time.
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Do you use it more? Changed any CPU setting? I am also inclined to think that they would run hotter as they get older
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yes i think they run hotter and they hold less of a charge so you will see a decrease in battery life
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yes i think they run hotter and they hold less of a charge so you will see a decrease in battery life
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this is true...sometimes mine gets so hot i cant even hold my phone...no joke
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this is true...sometimes mine gets so hot i cant even hold my phone...no joke
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whats the temperature on your battery? are you overclocked?
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this is true...sometimes mine gets so hot i cant even hold my phone...no joke
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Well thats not good whether your battery is brand new or a couple years old. Are you OC'd? If so, do you run temperature profiles? How long / hard do you use the phone before it gets that hot?
Any li-ion battery will eventually be useless over time. My phone has always run very hot when using gps(rooted with oc's and all that jazz or unrooted).
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Any li-ion battery will eventually be useless over time. My phone has always run very hot when using gps(rooted with oc's and all that jazz or unrooted).
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Mine also gets hot when using gps
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whats the temperature on your battery? are you overclocked?
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yeah im oc to 1305 an it really only happens when im playing a game and charging at the same time....but battery temp always stays in the green and batt health is good ive had it tested before
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yeah im oc to 1305 an it really only happens when im playing a game and charging at the same time....but battery temp always stays in the green and batt health is good ive had it tested before
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well thats to be expected. remember the phones default clock speed is only 800mhz, so with that big overclock+gaming+charging you shouldn't be surprised to get a hot battery.
Never seen a g2 get hot to the touch myself. The battery warms when discharging heavily, but not hot. What's the point of overclocking past 1024mhz ?
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Never seen a g2 get hot to the touch myself. The battery warms when discharging heavily, but not hot. What's the point of overclocking past 1024mhz ?
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ive been oc at low levels and extremely high levels and i found a spot where it seems i get the best all around performance....each phone will vary but you should try oc to higher levels if u havnt yet...careful around 1497 though, my phone just gets weird
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Never seen a g2 get hot to the touch myself. The battery warms when discharging heavily, but not hot. What's the point of overclocking past 1024mhz ?
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Mine would get warm to the touch using it heavily on the charger and overclocking to 1.2ghz or so.
Not sure why you'd overclock past 1ghz. I've never seen my phone bog down with anything at 1ghz. Some like to do it though. The usual level for overclockers is probably 1.2ghz. I personally keep it at 806mhz...
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Mine would get warm to the touch using it heavily on the charger and overclocking to 1.2ghz or so.
Not sure why you'd overclock past 1ghz. I've never seen my phone bog down with anything at 1ghz. Some like to do it though. The usual level for overclockers is probably 1.2ghz. I personally keep it at 806mhz...
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so u dont see much of a increase in speed when oc above 1ghz...i think i might mess around with the numbers again just to make sure....thanks for the tip
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so u dont see much of a increase in speed when oc above 1ghz...i think i might mess around with the numbers again just to make sure....thanks for the tip
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Well I'm sure if u run benchmarks you'll of course see better performance at higher clock speeds. I'm just expressing that in my uses, I've never seen any reason to clock past 1ghz, not to mention the increased battery drain of overclocking in most cases
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Somwletimes custom roms includes a different kernel that are already overclocked. Some people tend to missed this.
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I'm wondering what is the battery life difference between 1000MHz (as max) and overclocked 1400MHz?
In most [low-end] phones little OC consumes a lot of power, but I don't see this issue in SGS.
Are you using your phone overclocked? How long last your battery?
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I'm wondering what is the battery life difference between 1000MHz (as max) and overclocked 1400MHz?
In most [low-end] phones little OC consumes a lot of power, but I don't see this issue in SGS.
Are you using your phone overclocked? How long last your battery?
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I dont know why would you do that... I use SGS in max 800mhz(underclocked) and its perfectly fast... But regarding your question, prolly would be about a day and a half of battery with those settings on OC.
I think its perfectly fast as it is but to your question ... i think it really depends on how you use it i dont belive it will last more than a day of it is used as intended ...
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I dont know why would you do that... I use SGS in max 800mhz(underclocked) and its perfectly fast... But regarding your question, prolly would be about a day and a half of battery with those settings on OC.
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I tried underclocking my SGS (aokp build 28) to 800mhz, and it crawled, never got to the first unicorn in past the boot animation. seriously.
I over locked up to 1200, no over volt. Don't feel any impact on batterry since phone is only less 1 percent of time in that CPU state.Rest of time it is idling.
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im running SGS with 1000MHz and i don't need more power on my phone :S
Not much diff actually
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there can be a difference in battery life, but there does not necessarily have to be one I assume... after all, it is only the maximum available for the processor, most of te time it will not run at that speed... I for one do not overclock my phone (actually, I have underclocked it to 800mhz) since I have no need for these speeds (just using my phone for messaging and some browsing)...
please correct me if I am wrong since I do not know much about how the SGS processor exactly works
i cant see how it shouldnt impact battery.
Guys, check out the new kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870259
It is written for the N8000 but I have run it on my 8013 without issues. The prior version of this caused flaky wifi but so far the newer version has been stable for me. If you do get a wifi crash, just turn wifi off then back on and it will reconnect easily. Up to you whether than small inconvenience is worth it for the extra speed.
Was able to use SetCPU to OC my SGN10.1 to 1704 at Performance and run some tests. Nailed a 6308 quadrant first try - wow!!! I have my SDcard OC'd to 4096 as well. Remember to always uncheck "Set at Boot" in SetCPU when testing out new speeds. You don't want to get stuck in a bootloop if you push things too far.
** One point. I found that OC to 1600 crashed my machine. Don't know why (dev bumped voltage to 1425 mv at 1704 - that's probably why), but for me anyway, 1704 seems stable for now.
I take no credit for this work (this is brieuwers doing) - simply passing the word along and letting 8013 owners no that, at least so far it has not melted my rig. Please do not thank me. Just passing along the word.
P.S., I got one bootloop after flashing with ODIN but then it booted fine.
** As always, if you brick your rig it's on you.
UPDATE - This is about 15% faster now and it feels it.
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UPDATE - This is about 15% faster now and it feels it.
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Does that mean it's 15% warmer?
TonyBigs said:
Does that mean it's 15% warmer?
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Honestly haven't noticed any heat increase.
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Battery life reduction?
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Battery life reduction?
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Not that I've noticed but I typically use my tablet in my office where it is plugged in so hard to tell.
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there will be a battery life decrease when using the tablet constantly at 100% cpu usage. bumping the voltage guarantees that. as for how much that is i can't tell you but under my normal use my tablet doesn't run full throttle all the time so the extra drain is negligible.
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there will be a battery life decrease when using the tablet constantly at 100% cpu usage. bumping the voltage guarantees that. as for how much that is i can't tell you but under my normal use my tablet doesn't run full throttle all the time so the extra drain is negligible.
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What one has to wonder is does the very act of the cpu constantly throttling up and down and measuring what speed is best actually burn more fuel than just remaining at a high constant overclock? Think of it as city stop and go driving vs cruising on the highway.
If we are talking hours of difference then you have a point. But if we are just talking an extra 20 to 30 minutes of battery I would rather just have the speed. YMMV.
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What one has to wonder is does the very act of the cpu constantly throttling up and down and measuring what speed is best actually burn more fuel than just remaining at a high constant overclock? Think of it as city stop and go driving vs cruising on the highway.
If we are talking hours of difference then you have a point. But if we are just talking an extra 20 to 30 minutes of battery I would rather just have the speed. YMMV.
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Well yeah,.going.faster means finishing quicker but generally you can expect higher levels of inefficiency at higher rigor... my somewhat educated opinion, without tossing around numbers, is that he effect on the battery life should be minimal.
Theres also the fact that with a 10 inch tablet, the screen takes up a clear majority of the current.. the processor, even while at 100% still pales in comparison.. and the processor is.not often at 100%.. you dont really flash the screen.on and off, you usually have it on for a block of time.. processor only really works during tasks and then idles.
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