Radio/Baseband question - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a question, that I've had trouble finding the answer to.
Is there a need to flash a new radio to my phone? Are there benefits to flashing a new one?
I currently use my N4 with Straight Talk (AT&T).
Thanks.

wvcadle said:
I have a question, that I've had trouble finding the answer to.
Is there a need to flash a new radio to my phone? Are there benefits to flashing a new one?
I currently use my N4 with Straight Talk (AT&T).
Thanks.
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Depends. If you are updating your rom to 4.2.2, it's probably a good idea to flash the corresponding radio as well. If you are on 4.2.1, there are reports of incompatibility with 4.2.2 radio, so don't update. Otherwise, different radios may give you better signal/connection speeds, but it's hard to say.
Also, 4.2.2 radio disables lte, but since you're on straight talk it doesn't matter.

Do the ROMs not flash the appropriate radio for the android version? I updated to 4.2.2 before flashing MoDaCo, so do I have the correct radio?
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wvcadle said:
Do the ROMs not flash the appropriate radio for the android version? I updated to 4.2.2 before flashing MoDaCo, so do I have the correct radio?
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No, ROMs generally contain only the kernel and system images. Updated bootloader and basebands need to be flashed separately.
Edit: The above applies to custom ROMS. If you flashed stock 4.2.2, you may have the updated radio. You can check by going into settings->about phone->baseband version. For 4.2.2, the number should end in 48, 4.2.1 ends in 33.

halluci293 said:
No, ROMs generally contain only the kernel and system images. Updated bootloader and basebands need to be flashed separately.
Edit: The above applies to custom ROMS. If you flashed stock 4.2.2, you may have the updated radio. You can check by going into settings->about phone->baseband version. For 4.2.2, the number should end in 48, 4.2.1 ends in 33.
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Great. So I do have the correct one for 4.2.2. Are there different versions for the same ROMs, or do we only need to make sure we have the correct radio for the version of android we have?
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wvcadle said:
Great. So I do have the correct one for 4.2.2. Are there different versions for the same ROMs, or do we only need to make sure we have the correct radio for the version of android we have?
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Radio and bootloader version are generally linked with your Android version. AFAIK, no one makes custom radios/bootloaders, so they're always stock.

halluci293 said:
Radio and bootloader version are generally linked with your Android version. AFAIK, no one makes custom radios/bootloaders, so they're always stock.
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No one make custom radios/bootloaders because they're closed source. Its impossible to make a custom radio/bootloader unless you are LG/Google (and its respective manufacturers for that phone).

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[Q] when you flaah rom does it alter you radio?

I recently flashe p.a and im suspecting some issues with my signal. So the question is. Does flashing another rom alter your radio? And will coming back to stock rooted via nandroid bring back the old one?
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No.
Edit: Let me clarify. The radio resides in it's own partition, which goes untouched during a ROM install. There are, however, rampant data drop issues on many devices. However, as I understand it, if you get them, they happen on stock as well.
estallings15 said:
No.
Edit: Let me clarify. The radio resides in it's own partition, which goes untouched during a ROM install. There are, however, rampant data drop issues on many devices. However, as I understand it, if you get them, they happen on stock as well.
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estallings15 is correct, but he is also talking about flashing a ROM by itself. If you flash a package that includes a ROM, it could potentially contain a different radio as well.
hoponpop said:
estallings15 is correct, but he is also talking about flashing a ROM by itself. If you flash a package that includes a ROM, it could potentially contain a different radio as well.
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How many of those have you seen that contain paranoid android for the Nexus 4?
Edit: Yes, I saw the word potentially.
And how can i check what version radio is on my phone. Sorry but i havent tinkered with radios. Only roms and kernels and that is on a basic level
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nexus is region free so you shouldn't worry,
when you flash official roms from other regions with carriers then it can change it, user roms shouldnt include the baseband unless its updated by google.
radios are the baseband in /about phone.

Radio update question

Let me start by saying I know I have asked a few questions lately and I really appreciate the help. I am brand new to the nexus and don't want to brick it. I don't got money to just get another if I break it so I am being very careful with what I flash.
That said, I am planning to update my radio and I have read a few threads with regards to the topic. I found most of what I needed to know. My problem is I read a lot of posts saying it "broke" sensors or WiFi when flashed with the 4.2.1 Roms. Now it also goes on to say that 4.2.2. works fine with the newest radio, but i also seen where some were using a older radio (.27 I think it was)
Question 1- Can I use the .27 radio with the newest roms or is there a reason I need to use the .48 radio? Reason being the newest radio disables lte connectivity. Maybe the .27 keeps it?
Question 2- do I need to flash the new bootloader with the radio?
Sorry to act like a noob but with my older g-1 flashing the wrong radio and SPL could brick the device. So once again I am just trying to make certain I am taking the right steps. Thanks in advance...
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Question 1:
Some people lose audio on phone calls when running the older radios on 4.2.2, but CyanogenMod 10.1-based ROMs work fine with .33 or .27 basebands, at least in my personal experience.
Question 2:
Not sure if there is some interplay between the bootloader and whether the radios work on 4.2.2. Haven't heard of there being any issues in this regard.
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Yeah I would figure the cm variants would be coded for all different radios . I just didn't know if anyone out there knew the exact differences in radios and bootloaders. I have read so many posts and still can't get a really clear explanation.
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selfinflicted1 said:
Yeah I would figure the cm variants would be coded for all different radios . I just didn't know if anyone out there knew the exact differences in radios and bootloaders. I have read so many posts and still can't get a really clear explanation.
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I flashed .33 radio on 4.2.2 in order to keep using LTE here in Mexico. Phone works fine, haven't had any issues with it so far.
pacoguevara said:
I flashed .33 radio on 4.2.2 in order to keep using LTE here in Mexico. Phone works fine, haven't had any issues with it so far.
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So you're using CM 10.1 with Radio .33 without issues and maintaining LTE/4G connectivity?
If so is it the latest nightly?
I was under the impression that the 33 radio caused all kinds of problems with 4.2.2. Are you sure you aren't on 4.2.1? Its crazy because I seen a lot of posts saying that they never updated but everything worked right on 4.2.2. I really wish someone could shed light on this issue.
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selfinflicted1 said:
I was under the impression that the 33 radio caused all kinds of problems with 4.2.2. Are you sure you aren't on 4.2.1? Its crazy because I seen a lot of posts saying that they never updated but everything worked right on 4.2.2. I really wish someone could shed light on this issue.
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Apparently the issue with CM 10.1 and the older radio is you lose autofocus in the CM camera (for example, might be more issues). Now, being in the UK, I have no need for the old radio as we don't have proper 4G here yet so I'm all 100% up-to-date and it works fine. Once 4G comes about I'll get a 'proper' 4G phone

[Q] Any downside to upgrading from UCUAMDB?

I have an SGH-I337 running UCUAMDB that I've rooted, TWRP'd, etc. via CASUAL 527b. Are there any downsides to upgrading to whatever the current AT&T ROM version is? I just got notified of a new version which I assume fixes the package signing vulnerability that affects all versions of Android 1.6+, which would be a good thing.
Thank you in advance to those of you who weigh in.
You'd lose your root until an exploit is released for the current update.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357272
Fat Rat Bastard said:
I have an SGH-I337 running UCUAMDB that I've rooted, TWRP'd, etc. via CASUAL 527b. Are there any downsides to upgrading to whatever the current AT&T ROM version is? I just got notified of a new version which I assume fixes the package signing vulnerability that affects all versions of Android 1.6+, which would be a good thing.
Thank you in advance to those of you who weigh in.
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HiTideBlastoise said:
You'd lose your root until an exploit is released for the current update.
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Kadin said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357272
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Both posts are correct. You will lose TWRP, and Root.
If you want you can flash just the modem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43432287#post43432287
If you want the newest firmware, I highly recommend running GoldenEye Rom. It is based on the International version of the rom they just released for the US variants basically. So you will get the new features and fixes, and still be rooted. (they had it 1-2 weeks ago for other versions). You can flash/try GoldenEye and flash the modem in the link and be all up to date and rooted on stock based firmware.
WoodburyMan said:
Both posts are correct. You will lose TWRP, and Root.
If you want you can flash just the modem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43432287#post43432287
If you want the newest firmware, I highly recommend running GoldenEye Rom. It is based on the International version of the rom they just released for the US variants basically. So you will get the new features and fixes, and still be rooted. (they had it 1-2 weeks ago for other versions). You can flash/try GoldenEye and flash the modem in the link and be all up to date and rooted on stock based firmware.
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I'm sure there is pros & cons to go back to the stone age but I can't see it!
YOU can have the best of both worlds by...
Rooting
getting a good stable rom.. (many to choose from)
installing latest TWRP or what ever is your choice for recoveries
latest kernel (remember for your phone model)
latest modem...
and remember thats not taking any OTA's
or you could let the carriers control your life.. Heh, heh..
its all your choice!

JWR66V bootloader and radio on 4.2 rom

After I have upgraded my bootloader and radio to JWR66V using the factory image. Can I still use the 4.2 rom such as cm10?
csunny95 said:
After I have upgraded my bootloader and radio to JWR66V using the factory image. Can I still use the 4.2 rom such as cm10?
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Yes, you can do so.
OhDae-su said:
Yes, you can do so.
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But will there any impact or improvement if I use 4.3 bootloader and radio on 4.2 rom?
csunny95 said:
But will there any impact or improvement if I use 4.3 bootloader and radio on 4.2 rom?
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I upgraded the bootloader and radio, tried all the many variations of 4.3.
Went back to 4.2.2 and have had zero problems.
mrhiab said:
I upgraded the bootloader and radio, tried all the many variations of 4.3.
Went back to 4.2.2 and have had zero problems.
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So, Do u suggest upgrading to 4.3 bootloader and radio?
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So, Do u suggest upgrading to 4.3 bootloader and radio?
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If you have not upgraded to the stock JWR66V ROM, you must upgrade the radio before you can flash a 4.3 custom ROM. If you have upgraded to the stock JWR66V ROM, you can flash back to a 4.2.2 ROM and keep the .84 radio and makoz20i bootloader without encountering problems.
csunny95 said:
So, Do u suggest upgrading to 4.3 bootloader and radio?
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Eventually you're going to have to upgrade the bootloader. At least that's what molesarecomming said in his thread. Not so much with 4.3 but when KLP comes out you will.
I did mine because I was flashing P.A Ver 3.97 and it's says you have to flash new loader and radio to run the Rom. Or before you go posting that you're having issues at least.
The .84 radio has better performance, reception improved WIFI and battery life.
I average around 4 hours of ST a day with out any problems on it...but there are always factors that can sway battery life other than the radio.
You can always flash the Hybrid .33/.84 and have the best of both worlds...LTE and all the good things .84 brings with it.
mrhiab said:
Eventually you're going to have to upgrade the bootloader. At least that's what molesarecomming said in his thread. Not so much with 4.3 but when KLP comes out you will.
I did mine because I was flashing P.A Ver 3.97 and it's says you have to flash new loader and radio to run the Rom. Or before you go posting that you're having issues at least.
The .84 radio has better performance, reception improved WIFI and battery life.
I average around 4 hours of ST a day with out any problems on it...but there are always factors that can sway battery life other than the radio.
You can always flash the Hybrid .33/.84 and have the best of both worlds...LTE and all the good things .84 brings with it.
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Do I need to flash the hybrid one in order to get the LTE? stock 4.3 bootloader has already comes with lte?
csunny95 said:
Do I need to flash the hybrid one in order to get the LTE? stock 4.3 bootloader has already comes with lte?
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only the radios that ends with .27 or .33 are cabable to use LTE. the hybrid ones were designed to provide the best of two worlds as mentioned already above. So, most likely it would be recommended to use one of the hybrid ones for using LTE. try which one gives you the best results when it comes to recepetion, wifi perfomance etc.
the bootloader has nothing to do with all of that. Though use the latest one (bootloader-mako-makoz20i.img) would be the best advice. Regardless if u are using android 4.2.2 or 4.3
csunny95 said:
Do I need to flash the hybrid one in order to get the LTE? stock 4.3 bootloader has already comes with lte?
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LTE is done through your radio not the bootloader and is disabled on all radios after .33
No you don't have to flash the hybrid to get LTE but you will need a .27/.33 radio then edit your buil.prop file to enable it.
That link earlier was to an AIO the does everything that needs to be done.
Only thing you might have to do is the *#*#4636#*#* then manually tell it LTE everything is in that link.
I've got it to work on every rom I've flashed.
Only thing is at least from my experiences is that if your on LTE it does use a little more battery...but so worth it IMO

[Q] Revert to stock rom

ok so i have installed JellyBeans rom and im not liking it. im on base version JSS15J.N900VVRUBMJE.
how do i get back to the most updated stock rom on note 3?
Am assuming that you are using SafeStrap. If so, boot to recovery. Go into boot options and activate the "stock" slot. Then, if you want to, you can go in and delete rom slot that you have beans installed on.
Once you activate the stock slot, you'll know it because it will tell you with red text across the top of the screen.
Then just reboot.
IF YOU INSTALLED BEANS ROM ON THE STOCK SLOT, you need to download a copy of the stock odex or deodex rom that beans put together in the dev thread. If this is the case, let us know if you need help before going any further!
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Yes I made a new slot for beans and still have the stock one open. Thanks ill just use the stock slot. Now what about me getting the latest updated stock rom and still keep root, how would I do that?
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spetzuu said:
Yes I made a new slot for beans and still have the stock one open. Thanks ill just use the stock slot. Now what about me getting the latest updated stock rom and still keep root, how would I do that?
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So the rooted rom on your stock slot is what version?
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LeftyGR said:
So the rooted rom on your stock slot is what version?
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MI9
spetzuu said:
MI9
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Eh...
Best way would mean you'd need to redo root. And that way would be with odin. Unless someone else has a better way?
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ive tried finding out the benefits of the updates that have rolled on on the note 3 and i cant seem to find any... although i have seen people complaining about the battery life and what not.
do you know where i could get a complete list of what the updates bring to phone? because if its nothing major ill just stick to MI9
Honestly, it will be different for every person. Because even though we all have the same phone, Every Phone is just a little different. For example, I am on the current update and felt I needed to because I was having issues with wifi. But if you are on the original firmware, which you are, and you can find no problem with your phone that you would like to see fixed then I honestly don't see any point in updating your firmware if you do not want to. I know that the current version addresses problems people were having with wifi. Along with some other minor changes.
Now having said that... If you encounter any quirks or problems with any current custom ROMs that are listed in the development section, it may be due to the fact that they are built on the current firmware version while you are still two versions behind.
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