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Has anyone ever thought about whether it would be possible to increase the ram/upgrade memory in a G1. As outlandish as this might sound.. similar things have been done for a variety of devices.... if possible it would probably be the number one speed booster out there? or are there certain limitations out there that would make that impossible... Anyone ever opened up a G1?
This might be what you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566410
Theres some ram on the g1 that isnt being utilized by default.. this hack, for specific roms, can push the g1 to use more of the rom that it initially comes with. as far as a PHYSICAL upgrade im not too sure how that would work out.. never opened a g1, due to warranty void
This does happen a lot nowadays. Original Xbox's (before v1.6) had extra 'spaces' for RAM chips.
Simple to do, if you can find the right RAM for your device, which was hard enough for the Xbox until a German manufacturer was found.
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Upgrading_Xbox_RAM_HOWTO
Edit: Also remember, this only works if there is an extra 'space,' piggybacking does not work 99% of the time (and I doubt there would be enough space within the housing...)
so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
alec.baldwin said:
so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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no it has to be the same type maybe hero/magic ram would work who knows
alec.baldwin said:
so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
phuKKah said:
I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
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There is nowhere to put it.
Ram and rom come integrated on the same chip: samsung k522f1gacm-a060
You need to find a compatible chip (as mentioned, the one from magic or hero *might* be compatible), you also need to program it with something... which you may need to hack together since there is no such thing as a dream with 256MB ram, etc.
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
alec.baldwin said:
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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Good idea
alec.baldwin said:
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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I never said it wasn't possible. I simply said that what is there must necessarily COME OFF in order to put another one in its place.
And yes, you most definitely CAN program these chips outside the board, as long as you have the right equipment to do so, but the big question is to "program it with WHAT?".
Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
sxfx said:
Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
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As lbcoder has stated, finding a compatible chip isn't the problem.. it's a matter of what do you program onto the chip? Simply replacing the current chip with a blank one wouldn't do anything.
WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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Yea thats the way it would be done. You'd have to hex-edit the dumped rom to address the right amount of memory for the new chip and it should work. I'm certainly not going to be trying this myself but it would be an interesting experiment.
Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Believe it or not guys, my wife can do this. LOL. (I did marry the perfect woman, she also fixes my cars, folds the laundry and gives the best blowjob on earth). I digress <grin>.
If someone wants to donate a couple of bricked phones, I can get the chips swapped out. The issue of hex editing doesn't scare me at all I've been doing that for years, but finding the right addresses could be interesting. I'd probably need help with that as it is a lot different then bipassing a cd check on a video game
i work with embedded devices and here are my 2c about this, but take this lightly, I havent looked at how the G1 is setup on a board yet, nor do I know what hardware it is running.
if there is external ram, then perhaps it is a matter of swapping out the chips, given that they have the same pinout/packaging, etc.. if that was the case, you wouldnt get even another bit of more addressing because to get another bit, another wire is required to address it.
if the ram is internal on the microcontroller, then it would need to be swapped out, and good luck desoldering/soldering a BGA chip by hand. if you manage to find a new MCU with more internal ram to put on, the pinouts would have to be identical or else things might not work. additionally, you would need to have some method to kind of bootstrap the MCU because they typically come blank from the manufacturer.
Ok this is getting interesting... the easiest way to find out is probably contact HTC.. does anyone know someone, or is there a way to contact an engineer... or can anyone look up the specs? If it is using standard ddram by Samsung.. there might be a possibility.
Let me see what I can find for bricked G1's than we might have redir's wife take a look at it.. or John5788, if you'd volunteer. PM me your contact info...
We could just check the service manual, no?
edit: i tried to upload it, but the upload script here blows..
mediafire to the rescue! [download service manual here]
i just looked through the service manual, nothing specific about the ram/mcu locations. everything is just located on the mainboard without any sort of diagram. the people that look at the service manual dont need to know the device at that sort of hardware level.
My phone says its not able to read my SD card?
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Format it... do u have important files on it?
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What does that mean
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It means it erases all the information off of the card
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Why would I wanna do that
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Why would I wanna do that
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maybe to fix it?
But I don't wanna lose my stuff
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Then maybe try the card on another device and see if u can connect it to your computer and backup all the files,then format it and try on ur shift again
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Mount your phone as a disk drive. When windows asks if you want to scan and repair go for it.
That doesn't work your sd card is hosed. Pick up a new one with a higher speed class off of new egg.
Copy everything from the sd to your computer and copy over to the new card.
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Mount your phone as a disk drive. When windows asks if you want to scan and repair go for it.
That doesn't work your sd card is hosed. Pick up a new one with a higher speed class off of new egg.
Copy everything from the sd to your computer and copy over to the new card.
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Well the same thing happened to me last night. SD Card left the party. But, gave what you said and a shot and it worked. Now, going to keep a working copy on the desktop. Plus going to pick up a new card today ( just in case ). Also an excuse to get a bigger card.
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Well the same thing happened to me last night. SD Card left the party. But, gave what you said and a shot and it worked. Now, going to keep a working copy on the desktop. Plus going to pick up a new card today ( just in case ). Also an excuse to get a bigger card.
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Check out the 16GB Class 10 Wintec on NewEgg. I've had mine since I picked up my shift and it's been great. I think it goes for about $25.
My phone started doing this yesterday. Its done it with 7 cards so far. 3 are new.
I went back to work today, on the inland waterways, stuck without sd access for a month. Now clockwork can't mount it half the time.
Toasted by Nightly.
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Check out the 16GB Class 10 Wintec on NewEgg. I've had mine since I picked up my shift and it's been great. I think it goes for about $25.
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Thanks, will check it out.
Update: Definitely an internal problem. I thought it was just an error in MIUI but it's showing up in every rom now. I can format all of my cards and mount to flash. Within an hour I get the Damaged SD Card error.
Toasted by Nightly.
Do the sd cards wiggle around in the concave area it lays in? Before writing a dissertation about my guess of what it might be, I will ask this first.
When it's plugged into the computer, phone and cable, how do you disconnect the phone from the computer?
Does ruu back to 100% stock produce the same results?
Are you overclocked?
Are the cards all the same size and from the same manufacturer?
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Do the sd cards wiggle around in the concave area it lays in? Before writing a dissertation about my guess of what it might be, I will ask this first.
When it's plugged into the computer, phone and cable, how do you disconnect the phone from the computer?
Does ruu back to 100% stock produce the same results?
Are you overclocked?
Are the cards all the same size and from the same manufacturer?
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I've got three wintechs and four sandisks. Fit snug. I always unmount from comp side then unmount from phone side. Only time I mount at all is in recovery, actually.
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Edit: sizes range from 2gb to 16gb, and I have formatted all cards just to make sure they were the right file system and not ext2(3/4) reiser... so on.
Well if putting a piece of paper the size of the card on top of the card, then pushing the lock bar down doesn't help then I would take it to a sprint repair center. The paper needs to be thicker than sheet paper. Like one of the cards they have inside magazines for a subscription or maybe a post card. That should help keep the card stationary and better contact with the pins for the SD card. If that doesn't help then I would ruu back to complete stock, format a card in the phone and put some files on it. Nothing that could remotely be associated with roms or rooting or unlocking then find a sprint repair place. Take it there and try to make it corrupt the card in front of the tech. They might take it apart to see if something is loose or broken. If it can't be fixed quickly and easily, they will probably give or order a refurbished. If you are lucky you might get a new one. Don't give them a hard time when you are there or they can make life suck for you.
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Well if putting a piece of paper the size of the card on top of the card, then pushing the lock bar down doesn't help then I would take it to a sprint repair center. The paper needs to be thicker than sheet paper. Like one of the cards they have inside magazines for a subscription or maybe a post card. That should help keep the card stationary and better contact with the pins for the SD card. If that doesn't help then I would ruu back to complete stock, format a card in the phone and put some files on it. Nothing that could remotely be associated with roms or rooting or unlocking then find a sprint repair place. Take it there and try to make it corrupt the card in front of the tech. They might take it apart to see if something is loose or broken. If it can't be fixed quickly and easily, they will probably give or order a refurbished. If you are lucky you might get a new one. Don't give them a hard time when you are there or they can make life suck for you.
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Yeah, it'll be fun lol. I'm on a boat for a month anyways so I'm screwed.
At least I've got fastboot!
If you need to save or whatever a file, you could just send it as an email attachment to yourself. I don't know if there's such a program as something that makes a virtual drive online. I dunno. I'm just trying to think of ideas to use until you can get it fixed.
How about bluetooth file transfer to a computer or another phone...
My basic idea is the following;
I'll buy a couple of these -> Nexus 4 Toshiba 32GB/64GB Flash THGBM5G9B8JBAIE
Solder it with a BGA rework station (not hard to find someone who can do this!!)
And POW!! I have the Nexus 4 with 32GB/64GB storage!! But of course there's a problem. Because I'd solder a complete empty flash chip, I'd have to find a way to rewrite it from scratch. Music stops. Would it be possible to do so via Factory Image? I mean, bootloader and recovery (not sure about radio) aren't stored in that flash chip. So I'd have something to work with. Factory image will give me system/data/preload etc. and it should be good, shouldn't it? But will it repartition? So many dang questions!
And there is this dude right here, with a post/thread hidden in this link who claims to have talked to a google employee.
I just spoke with a person with Google Play support. The bootloader is on the motherboard and not the flash chip itself Now I've just gotta get my hands on one of those 64GB chips.
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Why I bother trying to upgrade internal storage? Well, because it's possible! That's been xda's motto since the beginning.
Excuse me, if I wrote something stupid. I just got the N4 yesterday and there's really this one and only annoying thing that bothers me.
nitrous² said:
My basic idea is the following;
I'll buy a couple of these -> Nexus 4 Toshiba 32GB/64GB Flash THGBM5G9B8JBAIE
Solder it with a BGA rework station (not hard to find someone who can do this!!)
And POW!! I have the Nexus 4 with 32GB/64GB storage!! But of course there's a problem. Because I'd solder a complete empty flash chip, I'd have to find a way to rewrite it from scratch. Music stops. Would it be possible to do so via Factory Image? I mean, bootloader and recovery (not sure about radio) aren't stored in that flash chip. So I'd have something to work with. Factory image will give me system/data/preload etc. and it should be good, shouldn't it? But will it repartition? So many dang questions!
And there is this dude right here, with a post/thread hidden in this link who claims to have talked to a google employee.
Why I bother trying to upgrade internal storage? Well, because it's possible! That's been xda's motto since the beginning.
Excuse me, if I wrote something stupid. I just got the N4 yesterday and there's really this one and only annoying thing that bothers me.
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Development board, UART and a way to sweet talk LG.
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hi,
i broke my phone it is completely dead. i need to figure out a way to pull off data from the internal storage. i have a replacement phone coming in today and was wondering where the internal storage in located. i have dismantled the broken phone and if possible will swap internals so i can pull off the data i need. so can someone tell me where the internal storage is located?
Please and thank you!
JC
If i remember rightly from a thread i glanced at a while ago, the note 3 internal memory is hard-wired (soldered) on the board...
Dan-SRi said:
If i remember rightly from a thread i glanced at a while ago, the note 3 internal memory is hard-wired (soldered) on the board...
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thanks! so if i swap the boards i should be able to grab that data correct?
jjcorral said:
thanks! so if i swap the boards i should be able to grab that data correct?
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Wow. You are adventurous. But no. The flash memory is ON the board. You would have to desolder and resolder it. Which is basically impossible on the scales that these devices are built. I don't think you can get to that data anymore....
EDIT: Unless your board is fine, in which case, I guess you could do a swap. But there is a more than good chance of destroying your new phone as well.
i dismantled what i could.
is there another behind the plastic between the LED?
hi guys i want to ask a strange question can i get extra internal storage by just changing the motherboard of the phone from a 16 gb one to a 32gb one or a 64gb one or i have to change the phone as a whole????is it possible technically?????? please answer me as soon as possible as this issue is important for me
It is possible to change the motherboard only but expect a lot of stress since this phone is very hard to open, even if you have some special tools laying around. The motherboard itself is also quite expensive. You could use eg. a USB OTG stick in order to store some stuff like eg. movies on it.
I have the smallest version of the Nexus 6P with 32GB only and it´s still enough for me if you don´t clutter your phone with 1000eds of Apps
sameh86 said:
hi guys i want to ask a strange question can i get extra internal storage by just changing the motherboard of the phone from a 16 gb one to a 32gb one or a 64gb one or i have to change the phone as a whole????is it possible technically?????? please answer me as soon as possible as this issue is important for me
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Better off selling it and buying another.