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Sprint F***** up my phone...

So I took my hero in today for having dust under the screen and the ear piece speaker being blown out. After telling me they wont give me a replacement and taking apart my phone (without asking btw) they cleaned the screen, then told me they were going to "harvest" a speaker from a phone being returned on monday and put the used speaker in my phone. After putting it back together they gave it back to me and I found they somehow corrupted my sd card. I was running apps2sd, had about 500 pics and all my nand backups on the card. Now I'm running a program to try to recover my fat partition so i can get to my nands and pics.
All I have to say is THANK YOU SPRINT FOR BREAKING MY 8gb SD CARD AND RUINING MY ****ING DAY!

So they fixed your $300 phone, yet accidentally corrupted your data on your $20 sd card? Hmm. Im sorry.........................? Lol seriously, your CARD isnt ruined, your data is just corrupted. Would you rather have your backups and a phone that isn't working right?

beyondinferno said:
So I took my hero in today for having dust under the screen and the ear piece speaker being blown out. After telling me they wont give me a replacement and taking apart my phone (without asking btw) they cleaned the screen, then told me they were going to "harvest" a speaker from a phone being returned on monday and put the used speaker in my phone. After putting it back together they gave it back to me and I found they somehow corrupted my sd card. I was running apps2sd, had about 500 pics and all my nand backups on the card. Now I'm running a program to try to recover my fat partition so i can get to my nands and pics.
All I have to say is THANK YOU SPRINT FOR BREAKING MY 8gb SD CARD AND RUINING MY ****ING DAY!
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Why didnt you take your sdcard out before you brought it in for service? I also assume you brought it in rooted as well. All I can say is if you dont have a second copy of any of your nandbackups/files then you really never had a "backup" to begin with. Sorry to hear about your sdcard, lesson learned......

Yeah kind of have to agree with the replies here. If you didn't backup your memory card shame on you. Its not like the guy purposely set out ruin your memory card. Well I might have if you came to me with the attitude you got now. Memory cards go bad all the time. I think your just looking for something to b**ch about.

swornenemy said:
Why didnt you take your sdcard out before you brought it in for service? I also assume you brought it in rooted as well. All I can say is if you dont have a second copy of any of your nandbackups/files then you really never had a "backup" to begin with. Sorry to hear about your sdcard, lesson learned......
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what he said

Leukay said:
So they fixed your $300 phone, yet accidentally corrupted your data on your $20 sd card? Hmm. Im sorry.........................? Lol seriously, your CARD isnt ruined, your data is just corrupted. Would you rather have your backups and a phone that isn't working right?
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Phone isn't fixed... They cleaned the screen and promised me a USED part for repair of the speaker. They did nothing to prevent the dust issue from reoccurring and I know the $20 card isn't ruined. However, the hours I'm spending trying to recover my data doesn't equate to $20. My time isn't free. And the fact they want to put used parts in my 5 week old phone is just insult to injury.
Please don't take this as some sob story, I just wanted to vent to a group of people who I thought might understand my frustration.

beyondinferno said:
Phone isn't fixed... They cleaned the screen and promised me a USED part for repair of the speaker. They did nothing to prevent the dust issue from reoccurring and I know the $20 card isn't ruined. However, the hours I'm spending trying to recover my data doesn't equate to $20. My time isn't free. And the fact they want to put used parts in my 5 week old phone is just insult to injury.
Please don't take this as some sob story, I just wanted to vent to a group of people who I thought might understand my frustration.
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I'm sorry, I'm just saying, my speaker was blown and I just replaced the speaker with the one from my old (very old) vogue, and it works perfectly fine. There's no way to prevent the dust, and you won't notice a difference between a used or new earpiece. Just sayin

Your speaker blew too?! WTF? You have any idea what might have caused it?

Last year I return my Hero to Best Buy because of the same problem, the guys changed my Hero and gave a brand new, before i walk trough my door i made a copy from my SDCard, anytime i make a NAN Backup i copy that backup to my computer, is just common sense, anyway i had the same problem with the speaker WTF is going on with the speakers?

sounds like another weak point on the phone... BTW, I usually backup to my comp but I had to go to the store straight from work. They only have a tech mon/wedns/fri 9 to 6.... Kinda gay...

beyondinferno said:
So I took my hero in today for having dust under the screen and the ear piece speaker being blown out. After telling me they wont give me a replacement and taking apart my phone (without asking btw) they cleaned the screen, then told me they were going to "harvest" a speaker from a phone being returned on monday and put the used speaker in my phone. After putting it back together they gave it back to me and I found they somehow corrupted my sd card. I was running apps2sd, had about 500 pics and all my nand backups on the card. Now I'm running a program to try to recover my fat partition so i can get to my nands and pics.
All I have to say is THANK YOU SPRINT FOR BREAKING MY 8gb SD CARD AND RUINING MY ****ING DAY!
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Sprint doesn't care about your apps2sd, and it's not their responsibility. It was yours.

what about the 500 pics? Like i said, not trying to start a sprint bashing thread just sharing my inconvenience.
Don't like it? Don't comment.

Also, anyone know of a data recovery app that's any good? Running Win7 BTW.

hey go to google and search for Pandora Recovery and download it and pop in your sd card and away you go to recovering your files. It is a free great program.

showing the card as an unsupported file format.

I can't believe you took a phone (a rooted phone with AppsToSD installed, no less) in to a Sprint repair store with NONE of your data backed up.
Sorry. Lesson learned.

yeah..... Just reformated. LESSON LEARNED! ef it, i'm gonna try some new roms!

Lol, my phone and windows thinks it's 1.3 tb now!?

I also have much dust on the screen.
Should I have to contact with sprint to agrue about that?
Anybody else has the same problem?

I took my hero to get the dust cleaned as well. I forgot to remove my 8GB card like a genius and the tech fried my 8GB too. They came back out with a 2GB card as replacement and told me my 8GB card fried because it's not the one that came with the phone.
Granted I blame myself for not removing the card beforehand, but they still had an attitude even when they fried my card.

SD Card died

As the title says, my SD card just died today. I have a sandisk 8 GB card and it had been working flawlessly and then all of a sudden, it just died. The biggest problem is i have pictures and music on there that I cant get back. the card is not recognized by my vibrant, my laptop, my desktop or my wife's cliq, but my G1 can read it. the problem is when I go to format it through the menu's option, it fails every time. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? I have recovery software, but it wont work because the card cant be read. PLEASE HELP!

Same thing happen to me when flashing froyo, I dont know how I manage to fix it, I thinl it was the.stock one, I keep switching roms trying to fix my recovery, another thing I did was add sd /sdcard
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is it possible that if i flash the phone with odin and leave the card in it could bring it back to being useful again? when you say you added sd/sdcard, what do you mean? that location is already on my vibrant

Well I lt worked for me, use my external sd for backups, before it wouldnt mount. And yea the location /sdcard/sd
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anyone else have any ideas. flashing with odin back to stock and leaving the external sd card in did not do anything

Try the repartion option in odin, keep trying the sd is not dead, mine wouldnt even mount
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i tried doing the repartition in odin, it brought it back to life again, and then 15 mins later it died again. I was able to pull some stuff off of it but it did in fact die again. i tried to format it to see if that would fix it, but it keeps failing to format every time, and if i delete anything off of the card, as soon as it reloads itself back onto the phone, all of the files are back on there again. Any ideas? I really dont want to have to buy another 8GB card, they are not cheap

8Gb cards are actually pretty cheap.. I think I have like 3 just laying around the house.. Haha
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upsman92 said:
8Gb cards are actually pretty cheap.. I think I have like 3 just laying around the house.. Haha
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i LOVE useless posts like the one above...
but seriously i would like to know aswell... i have a 8gb laying around that was less than 3 months old before it died..wish i could bring it back....

upsman92 said:
8Gb cards are actually pretty cheap.. I think I have like 3 just laying around the house.. Haha
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well hey if you want to send one my way I'd appreciate it because i don't have the extra money right now to go blow $40-$70 on an 8GB Micro SD Card

Memory Card - Beyond a joke!

Hi,
I'm really hoping someone might be able to give me some advice.
I've had my Desire HD for about eight months now, and counting the one I lost about 10 minutes ago, I've gone through a total of ten memory cards.
Each time I get a message saying it's been unexpectedly removed, or that it is blank or damaged. I've tried Sandisk and Samsung cards, all Class 2 / 8GB.
I hardly ever remove the memory card, but when I do I am always careful to unmount it. The same as when I connect it to my PC via USB.
After the 8th memory card died, the Gingerbread update had just been released, and I was hoping it was due to a software issue. However, as expected, my 9th memory card died shortly after. I contacted HTC who sent me ONE replacement SD card, to which I explained that I wanted my phone repaired. Courier picked it up, they said that it was being caused by a software issue and simply done a reset.
I knew it wouldn't work, and low and behold my 10th memory card has just died.
I am now contemplating going to Phones4U and asking for a replacement, as someone else has mentioned in the forum. However, there was one thing I wanted to check with people first.....
I connect my phone to my car stereo via Bluetooth, which I use as a handsfree and to listen to music that is stored on my phone. Now, normally I just turn my car stereo off. How likely is it that this could be causing the card failure? I don't see how, as the memory card isn't physically being removed, but I wanted to get people's thoughts on this before I start pushing Phones4U for a replacement!

I don't think your cards are physically damaged. They just need to be formatted.

ozaghloul said:
I don't think your cards are physically damaged. They just need to be formatted.
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I don't think it's my cards that are physically damaged, but it must be a hardware issue with the phone. Each of the memory cards either say it's been removed, or that it's blank or damaged. Some of them I can put into my PC and repair. Some of them worked again after I had formatted them, however 5 out of the 10 would not even be picked up by my PC.
I have now emailed Phones4U, so I shall see where I get (if anywhere) with them.

What HTC firmware are you using? There was an issue with 1.72 that caused symptoms such as yours. That is one of the issues that got the OTA pulled.
I have the phone number for Phones4U's written complaints team, the team that you always get told don't accept incoming calls. Should you need it, just let me know.

Sounds a very similar problem to mine mate........
s32bauer said:
I don't think it's my cards that are physically damaged, but it must be a hardware issue with the phone. Each of the memory cards either say it's been removed, or that it's blank or damaged. Some of them I can put into my PC and repair. Some of them worked again after I had formatted them, however 5 out of the 10 would not even be picked up by my PC.
I have now emailed Phones4U, so I shall see where I get (if anywhere) with them.
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Hi there s32bauer,
I think i may have seen the same problem, although i have only tried 2 /sdcards and they BOTH work on the PC or lappy afterwards.
See this thread for more on my issue,
Hope you have a little more luck than myself.
I have had some great help off some great people on here at XDA though......Thanks guys...
P.S. Have you been running any custom ROM's? If so, what were they?

i had the same problem when on 1.72, i went through 3 16sdhc cards. i fixed this by rooting and using leedroids gingerbread.
all three cards which were broke i managed to fix and they are now in good use in my wifes wildfire and our galaxy tabs, the 32gb card i now have in my phone has been in there for about 4 months now with no more unexpected removals.
The only other time i had this problem was with my motorola milestone, it also ate cards - but the phone was next to useless as it was sig locked and never updated (got a full refund as flash never arrived in the 9 months i owned the pos).

Gone through 10 memory cards that's absolutely insane!! Even more insane that a OTA can be released that causes it.
I think your owed some replacements if the cards are screwed.
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The same has happened to me... I broke around 5 SDcards like that. Problem solved by rooting the phone and Gingerbread !

andyharney said:
What HTC firmware are you using? There was an issue with 1.72 that caused symptoms such as yours. That is one of the issues that got the OTA pulled.
I have the phone number for Phones4U's written complaints team, the team that you always get told don't accept incoming calls. Should you need it, just let me know.
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I've been through quite a lot. The first two died on 1.32 I believe. Then I lost SIX on the 1.72 firmware. Another one once I'd upgraded to Android 2.3, and then the final one the other once I'd received it back from HTC.
The number for Phones4U would be brilliant, thanks!

LandUzu said:
Hi there s32bauer,
I think i may have seen the same problem, although i have only tried 2 /sdcards and they BOTH work on the PC or lappy afterwards.
See this thread for more on my issue,
Hope you have a little more luck than myself.
I have had some great help off some great people on here at XDA though......Thanks guys...
P.S. Have you been running any custom ROM's? If so, what were they?
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Hey, thanks for the link. I'll have a look through, although I'm going to continue to push for a brand new replacement I think.
Tried 1.32, then to 1.72, and then Android 2.3. One of them was a custom ROM, but had one die on that one too unfortunately, so I'm quite sure it's just my phone being a dud! lol

ToneyEricsson said:
Gone through 10 memory cards that's absolutely insane!! Even more insane that a OTA can be released that causes it.
I think your owed some replacements if the cards are screwed.
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Hmmm, HTC Support only feel that I'm entitled to ONE replacement card lol. Pathetic really. Still, hopefully Phones4U might be a bit more co-operative.

just to confirm...
s32bauer said:
Hmmm, HTC Support only feel that I'm entitled to ONE replacement card lol. Pathetic really. Still, hopefully Phones4U might be a bit more co-operative.
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i have bought another 4GB sd card and my DHD STILL wont recognise it......its a dud handset imo.
How old is yours out of interest? Ive had my DHD since January.
Good luck with Phones4U.

s32bauer said:
Hmmm, HTC Support only feel that I'm entitled to ONE replacement card lol. Pathetic really. Still, hopefully Phones4U might be a bit more co-operative.
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Just been looking at the SanDisk warranty on faulty non working micro SD cards - you should be able to get replacements as long as you have proof of purchase.
Maybe spread them out over a few weeks each if you have a few
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Ive gone through 2 (ebay) 32gb sd cards in 2 months, both didnt last a reboot, and were fubar afterwards, can anyone else who is running a 32gb card confirm it works ok? Or have I just been unlucky with 2 bunk suppliers?

Sounds more like you got crap cards off eBay, my 32gb card works great
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whoops wrong thead

kujoswrath said:
Sounds more like you got crap cards off eBay, my 32gb card works great
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Any pointers on which type of card yours is? I think it needs to be a sdhc card but dont know what class number it should be. I seem to see that they have different classes.

Or which seller you purchased from??

[Q] Is there a way to back up my SD card?

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Loriski said:
Okay new here hope this is the right place.
I bought a N2a card on amazon and it works fine. Now I would like to get another nook color for my daughter but hate to spend more money on another ready made card for her's with CM7 on it. Maybe it's my SD card? ( Adata 8 gig not sure maybe doing it wrong.) If I could make a image of the one I bought Sandisk that would be great but I can't find out how to.
Thanks, Lori..
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Let me get this straight. You were too lazy to make your own card, you bought one already made and now you come to us to see if you can essentially rip off the people that make the N2A card so you don't have to spend any other of your tightfisted dollars? I hardly think so!
Maybe someone on here will forward this to the N2A people in case you were dumb enough to use a screen name that was close enough for them to identify their customer......

Loriski said:
Okay new here hope this is the right place.
I bought a N2a card on amazon and it works fine. Now I would like to get another nook color for my daughter but hate to spend more money on another ready made card for her's with CM7 on it. Maybe it's my SD card? ( Adata 8 gig not sure maybe doing it wrong.) If I could make a image of the one I bought Sandisk that would be great but I can't find out how to.
Thanks, Lori..
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You're not ripping anyone off. You purchased the N2A card. Now it's yours, you can do with it as you wish. You're not burning it to sell to someone else. Hey, maybe you want a backup of your card in case the one you have messes up.
You can either use WinImage to back up the whole card and burn the image onto the new one.
Or if you have a mac or linux box, you can use the "dd" command to do essentially the same thing.
-Racks

patruns said:
Let me get this straight. You were too lazy to make your own card, you bought one already made and now you come to us to see if you can essentially rip off the people that make the N2A card so you don't have to spend any other of your tightfisted dollars? I hardly think so!
Maybe someone on here will forward this to the N2A people in case you were dumb enough to use a screen name that was close enough for them to identify their customer......
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Who Pissed in your coffee this morning???

Loriski said:
If I could make a image of the one I bought Sandisk that would be great but I can't find out how to. /QUOTE]
Someone has said they "CLONE" the uSD.
I've never done it b4 so can't tell you for sure whether it works or not.
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You're not ripping anyone off. You purchased the N2A card. Now it's yours, you can do with it as you wish. You're not burning it to sell to someone else.
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You folks are not reading her post. She wants to clone it to use on another Nook Color. That is called piracy. In fact, it is prohibited here in the forums....

Mod time:
So, this post was brought to my attention, and is a very interesting one. At the surface, this act looks as if it is a warez post, but a little background makes me think otherwise (perhaps putting it in a grey area).
The n2a card, is actually little more than CM7 preinstalled on a new(?) SD card. Because CM7 is an open and free project, I do not feel that cloning a purchased card is actually stealing anything... indeed, the same result can be achieved with the user putting CM7 on the card the same way as n2a does it. Additionally, places advised that you really paying for the card, with the convince of having cm7 already on it.
For now, I am leaving this, but will note that tis is pending further review and discussion, and things may change...

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Mod time:
So, this post was brought to my attention, and is a very interesting one. At the surface, this act looks as if it is a warez post, but a little background makes me think otherwise (perhaps putting it in a grey area).
The n2a card, is actually little more than CM7 preinstalled on a new(?) SD card. Because CM7 is an open and free project, I do not feel that cloning a purchased card is actually stealing anything... indeed, the same result can be achieved with the user putting CM7 on the card the same way as n2a does it. Additionally, places advised that you really paying for the card, with the convince of having cm7 already on it.
For now, I am leaving this, but will note that tis is pending further review and discussion, and things may change...
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Well put Madcat! How the heck are ya, forum moderator now huh? Awesomeness. Hope all is well!

Hey hey! Yep, I am now a NC mod (among other forums)...
Anyway, as is it, I am leaving the thread as is. Leaving personal feelings aside, there is nothing wrong right now. Keep it clean guys, and all is good..
racks11479 said:
Well put Madcat! How the heck are ya, forum moderator now huh? Awesomeness. Hope all is well!
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I don't think that would be piracy any more than making your own card. N2A doesn't do anything special to their cards. You buy the service off putting Android on the card, that's it. N2A owns nothing on that card.
That being said, it still would probably be easier to follow the directions in this forum and make a new card.
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patruns said:
Let me get this straight. You were too lazy to make your own card, you bought one already made and now you come to us to see if you can essentially rip off the people that make the N2A card so you don't have to spend any other of your tightfisted dollars? I hardly think so!
Maybe someone on here will forward this to the N2A people in case you were dumb enough to use a screen name that was close enough for them to identify their customer......
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Okay let me set you straight I had a adata card and tried to make one and I failed maybe it was the card brand??????? So no I was not lazy.
Anyways I bought one that the guy said was paying for his time to put the free software on the card that was a sandisk brand. He said he does not own the software. So if this card does fail and or I want to use the free software on another nook I don't see a problem as I paid for the guys time already. Now if I'm wrong I'm sorry.
Thanks for your time,
Lori..

SCrid2000 said:
I don't think that would be piracy any more than making your own card. N2A doesn't do anything special to their cards. You buy the service off putting Android on the card, that's it. N2A owns nothing on that card.
That being said, it still would probably be easier to follow the directions in this forum and make a new card.
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Thanks for your post. I wish it was easy I failed so I bought one. Maybe the card brand bad? I think I will try a sandisk card and maybe I will get it figured out.
Thanks,
Lori..

Delete please.

Ok, I admit I over-reacted in my original post. I've always felt the selling of the N2A card was a bit of a ripoff of all the hard work put into CM7 by the developers, especially since there was never mention of any proceeds going back to support the developers. $34.99 for an 8GB card, $49.99 for a 16GB card and $79.99 for a 32GB card ...... really? Then to see someone buy one card and then simply want to clone it to use in another NC (her daughter's if I recall correctly) just did not seem right. But, I defer to the moderators......

patruns said:
Ok, I admit I over-reacted in my original post. I've always felt the selling of the N2A card was a bit of a ripoff of all the hard work put into CM7 by the developers, especially since there was never mention of any proceeds going back to support the developers. $34.99 for an 8GB card, $49.99 for a 16GB card and $79.99 for a 32GB card ...... really? Then to see someone buy one card and then simply want to clone it to use in another NC (her daughter's if I recall correctly) just did not seem right. But, I defer to the moderators......
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Hi Again,
I agree with you totally on the money being sent to the people that developed the software. I don't have a issue with that part. ( I still don't know why they give it away for free?) If the CM7 people sold the card I would have bought from them. This is not my fault that the N2A ripped those people off. I just felt I didn't want to send N2a anymore money for something I already bought and if software is Free didn't think that was wrong. I was not going to do this to make money like them. I just need a backup for use in another one or maybe in case this one messes up somehow. I tried making my own at first but with blue dots and other items I got so confused what to do and didn't want to mess my new refurb CN up. Maybe after my chemo treatment effects subside I will feel better and can try again with a sandisk card this time. I would also like the moderators to just please delete all these posts.
Thanks
Lori

Loriski said:
Hi Again,
I agree with you totally on the money being sent to the people that developed the software. I don't have a issue with that part. ( I still don't know why they give it away for free?) If the CM7 people sold the card I would have bought from them. This is not my fault that the N2A ripped those people off. I just felt I didn't want to send N2a anymore money for something I already bought and if software is Free didn't think that was wrong. I was not going to do this to make money like them. I just need a backup for use in another one or maybe in case this one messes up somehow. I tried making my own at first but with blue dots and other items I got so confused what to do and didn't want to mess my new refurb CN up. Maybe after my chemo treatment effects subside I will feel better and can try again with a sandisk card this time. I would also like the moderators to just please delete all these posts.
Thanks
Lori
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I think any number of people have tried with the instructions here and failed to make a usable card. Why? I don't know. Maybe it's because of the plethora of conflicting instructions. Maybe it's the links to outdated software, or dead links. Maybe it's just the "simply do this, then this, then download this that may not work with your OS, so you might have to do this, then be sure to hold the buttons down just this length of time," and so on, but I tried twice and gave up.
So, I bought an N2A card, inserted it, and my NC booted up immediately and it all worked. That's certainly worth something. I now have the fairly nifty Android tablet running Jelly Bean that I had hoped to have almost a year ago, and despaired of every successfully setting up. I don't think the payment to N2A was out of line, considering the time I had spent trying to do the same thing.
I'm not sure I'd pay them for a second card, if the first one died and I had a backup.

htc hd2 memory card slot not working..

hi there hd2 lovers.. i recently got a chance to buy this vivid phone hd2 ..but the owner says the memory card slot is not working..i just want to hear from you guys is it repairable? or whole if the main board needs to be replaced..it has been confirmed that the damage is physical.. i mean he has tried every other solution here like formatting via nokia phonez fat32 etc etc.. havent installed win7 ever..
so please reply and help should i buy this phone.. he is giving me cheap like 110$
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luciferps said:
he is giving me cheap like 110$
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110 US dollars? you can pick up a working one for about that or just a little more.
I wouldn't touch it, that's for sure. Without an sd card there's not a lot you can do, a new mainboard would cost about $110, and although im sure there are plenmty of skilled electronics engineers that can swap out teh sd card slot, its probably pretty tricky, and we all know how easy it is to accidentally destroy something else when opening them up. There are LOADS of threads that start 'i opened the case to fix X and ended up ripping the volume cable/button cables/gps antenna/and now wifi dopesnt work/touch screen has stopped responding', , even several cases where a repair shop hands teh unit back to teh customer worse than when they took it in to teh shop.

aww so its better to leave .. and my search continues...
TFYI.
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