A little lag - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok so I have had a few nexus 4's and seems like everyone has been the same experience. I root and/or flash custom ROM and load all my apps from my titanium backup which honestly think dates back to my epic 4g I had a while back. I have about 170 apps and none are very big.
Seems like I get a little lag here and there and my gf who has about 80 apps ( I am going off when it says android is upgrading) and hers just feels faster just a little.
Could this be because I have never done a clean install of the apps. Most have been upgraded thru updates so I would think this would not matter.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
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I am running stock unrooted still locked boot loader and I have no lag at all and I have >120 apps
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I clean installed all my apps and restored data only from titanium, no lag here and I have a hundred or so apps.
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I use google to restore all my apps, they're mostly all from the market, so its a five minute process every time I wipe or install a new rom. No real lag here, unless I cause it by tinkering lol.

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What's the reason for battery pulls on the evo 4g?

My 4g constantly requires a battery pull once a day, this is my 4th evo and all of them are the same. evo freees, have the pull battery to get it back working again, getting tired of it and it's not rooted.
What's the cause for this and why haven't htc produced a fix?
Also I'm thinking of picking up something else cheap and selling my evo, Motorolla photon or htc evo design? what's a better be?
What's the resale value of my evo 4 g/ 120?
Are you updated with the latest OTA? Have you done a factory reset recently?
Yes, all my evos freeze.
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I would try rooting it and flashing a good, solid ROM like MikG 3.11.
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I had 3.0 and it frooze too, it's either all the evos freeze or its a program I'm running.
Can someone comment of the other phones?
It's something your doing, because the EVO 4G has been around almost 2 years and never heard of anyone having that problem before. And even if someone did have that problem on 1 phone, it wouldn't happen on a 2nd, let alone 4.
So I highly doubt changing to a different phone will help you at all.
Mine freezes occasionally, usually when I'm impatient and try to do a bunch of stuff right after it boots up and is still loading. Other than that, no freezes or other problems. It could be an app that you always have installed, maybe you should try factory resetting and see if it still does it. If it doesn't, slowly reinstall your apps until it does, then you'll be able to narrow down the problem more easily.
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Mine freezes occasionally, usually when I'm impatient and try to do a bunch of stuff right after it boots up and is still loading. Other than that, no freezes or other problems. It could be an app that you always have installed, maybe you should try factory resetting and see if it still does it. If it doesn't, slowly reinstall your apps until it does, then you'll be able to narrow down the problem more easily.
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This^
That being said the EVO Design 4G is a nice handset, my brother has one...with little rooting or 3rd party ROM support as of yet...I don't think there's even a forum for it on XDA.
Only time my phones freeze is when I try to do something right after boot b4 the media scanner finishes running or when I try to push the clockspeed past its limits just to see what will happen like the time I clocked the evo to 1.6 and it would freeze the bootani and need to be restored or on the et4g I tried clocking it to 2ghz and it would boot but then go to sleep of death once the screen goes off gotta pull the battery to turn it back on
Yeah, I've had my Evo since launch day, and the only time I have to do battery pulls is when I've tried clocking too high, or running a really experimental ROM.
The problem is on your end, I would say. Good luck. There's already good advice posted here.
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More than likely in your case its an errant app causing freezes maybe something sideloaded from a 3rd party market that's not compatible with your device or some kind of mod or tweak you've used
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More than likely in your case its an errant app causing freezes maybe something sideloaded from a 3rd party market that's not compatible with your device or some kind of mod or tweak you've used
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If he's unrooted/stock, I don't think there are many apps/mods that would cause this kinda behavior.
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There are tons of apps and mods you can use unrooted, you can sideload apps on any rom by checking the unknown sources box and downloading and app from the internet and installing it even if it isn't mean for your device, and there are many mods you can do to unrooted devices such as 3rd party launchers, some scripts that can be run that don't require root, changing the SD read ahead cache, setting up profiles for CPU clockspeeds in apps such as setcpu or something similar, plus he mentioned he wasn't rooted then said he was rooted, he could be trying to use an app that requires root on an unrooted device, the possibilities of app conflicts on a rooted or unrooted device are near endless, especially if you use sideloaded apps that are cracks or warez such as games
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May just be an app, i had advance task killer on my unrooted evo when i first got it and had that problem, took it to sprint and they deleted it because they said it was an bad app fir the evo.

Why I'm hesitating to root...

Hi Folks,
My first post on N4 section.
Ive just upgraded from a HTC Sensation that I've been running for two years, mostly using CM9 & CM10 on it, so Im well aware of all the benefits to root.
Even been lucky enough to have some of the excellent Devs cooking in this section over at Sensation workbench too, like Showp's kernel with Sweep2wake.
So far, my Nexus has not been rooted, and although I miss custom Rom-ing, im very excited to say that not rooting means that some apps like SkyGo and Barclays Mobile banking & Barclays PingIt are working very nicely for me indeed, something that never happened on my Sensation.
Since my go-to rom on Sensation was AOSP anyway, Im pleased with my stock Android for now, and it just seems that some of the apps I can use now are pushing me into the non-root territory.... for now.
Anyone with any thoughts on my current predicament?
I don't see anything wrong with it although you are going to lose data the moment you decide to root. Unlocking the bootloader would wipe data off your phone if I remember correctly. (Nexus noob as I came from Desire.)
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Agreed, I rooted my xperia, HTC evo and HP touchpad just to run AOSP. My nexus is staying stock for a long time, like you its very convenient to use the Barclays apps, only thing that might tempt me to root is to block ads....
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I was in your boat with my HTC vivid. That thing had to be rooted to make it actually useful. But with the N4, I have no need to root. Ironic, don't you think? We finally get the phone that screams to mod it with how easy it is to root and yet we don't...
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While I respect all of your decisions to hold off on rooting, I will recommend that even if you don't root, unlock your boot loader ASAP because as mentioned above, your data IS wiped when you do so and it is necessary to do so if you ever decide to root in the future.
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I have taken a look at the nexus 4 toolkit by mskip and you backup apps and data before unlocking then restore.... So I don't think it really matters.
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stankyou said:
I don't see anything wrong with it although you are going to lose data the moment you decide to root. Unlocking the bootloader would wipe data off your phone if I remember correctly. (Nexus noob as I came from Desire.)
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Hmm I didn't lose data when I rooted..
Also without root you can't make the most of your battery with under clicking, screen off profiles, cpu sleeper, etc.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
Hmm I didn't lose data when I rooted..
Also without root you can't make the most of your battery with under clicking, screen off profiles, cpu sleeper, etc.
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As soon as I unlock the bootloader, my data is wiped. Maybe you used toolkits and such like what the other guy said and had that option to save stuff. As for me I prefer command lines as much as possible.
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I'm in the same place as you. One of my main reasons for using custom ROMs was because I loved the look of AOSP. Now I have AOSP, I'm less tempted to flash anything or root, because everything works and looks good.
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As soon as I unlock the bootloader, my data is wiped. Maybe you used toolkits and such like what the other guy said and had that option to save stuff. As for me I prefer command lines as much as possible.
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Guide stickied in this forum has a how-to on ADB Backups.
Perform the backup as outlined and unlock...
Restore as outlined and it's as though nothing ever happened...all data restored.
Well, had the Evo V before this and I rooted/modded it to look/run like this phone runs out of the box so I don't plan on rooting at all.
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joshnichols189 said:
While I respect all of your decisions to hold off on rooting, I will recommend that even if you don't root, unlock your boot loader ASAP because as mentioned above, your data IS wiped when you do so and it is necessary to do so if you ever decide to root in the future.
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Will unlocking Bootloader mean apps that don't work on Root phones stop functioning?
No unlocked DOES NOT equal root
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Coming from Samsung Vibrant

Hi,
Got my Nexus 4 today, currently I have the Samsung vibrant, is it safe to backup (titanium) all apps on the vibrant and restore them on the nexus 4?
Any other tips for migrating?
Thx!
YuvalW said:
Hi,
Got my Nexus 4 today, currently I have the Samsung vibrant, is it safe to backup (titanium) all apps on the vibrant and restore them on the nexus 4?
Any other tips for migrating?
Thx!
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Dunno about titanium, maybe if you were on Jellybean on the other phone. Otherwise i would say that its probably not transferable
Just poked my head in to say that i had the vibrant and its an amazing phone.. Sometimes i even miss it a little lol.
Welcome to the forum, im sure youll love your N4
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As long as they are user installed apps there should not be a problem. Don't restore system apps.
It is however not advisable to restore apps from a different OS version. And the phone you have didn't even have ICS.
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YuvalW said:
Hi,
Got my Nexus 4 today, currently I have the Samsung vibrant, is it safe to backup (titanium) all apps on the vibrant and restore them on the nexus 4?
Any other tips for migrating?
Thx!
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It would cause ALOT of problems, mainly because reusing apk's can cause errors and force closes. Just back up the data not the apk/app. If anything doesn't work clear data for the app.
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Hi,
Currently I am using 4.2.2 on my Vibrant (SlimBean Rom), so it is the same OS.
Well, I've just now setup the phone (I am one of those who use to do a full charge before first boot), and choosed to
restore my google account, besides of settings it is also installing the apps for me. Now somehow it installs only the apps
that I currently have on my phone and not all the apps that I've ever downloaded (maybe I used Titanium to remove market links
the last time I restored my Vibrant phone, dunno).
Anyway, so I am starting clean, which is better I believe...
Thanks!
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Just poked my head in to say that i had the vibrant and its an amazing phone.. Sometimes i even miss it a little lol.
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Hehe, yes, the Vibrant is a great phone, but must admit it is getting old and slowish when running 4.2.2, time to move on...

(Q) Uninstalling system apps? 4.4.2

I was wondering if there is a way other than either disabling or freezing system apps. If I remove them, it causes settings to fc. This has held true since the 4.4 update. I usually always get ride of apps to free up more space, RAM, ect...
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As I know you can only disable system apps(as I do) but they are still there and without root you can not completely delete or modify system apps, which is basicly leaves you with a custom rom.
If it's force closing when you disable them then the best thing you can do is just install a custom Rom and kernel. If you like stock then I suggest Nexus 5 Experience with Franco kernel.
I use an app called systemapp remover. In 4.3, maybe theres an update.
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jto101680 said:
I was wondering if there is a way other than either disabling or freezing system apps. If I remove them, it causes settings to fc. This has held true since the 4.4 update. I usually always get ride of apps to free up more space, RAM, ect...
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You can use any file explorer(Solid File Explorer) to uninstall system apps. Titanium Backup to freeze them.
Hey guys sorry for not responding sooner. The problem is that I am rooted and running a custom ROM. There are still certain thing I get ride of (NFC, or calendar storage for example) that I just never use. I've tried on stock, PSX, and Purity with the same results. Remember I'm uninstalling them not freezing or disabling.
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jto101680 said:
Hey guys sorry for not responding sooner. The problem is that I am rooted and running a custom ROM. There are still certain thing I get ride of (NFC, or calendar storage for example) that I just never use. I've tried on stock, PSX, and Purity with the same results. Remember I'm uninstalling them not freezing or disabling.
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Try uninstaling foreign keyboards , wallpapers e.t.c. Also I have 100mb+ of system space free so I guess your phone is similar so why do you need more. I can understand deleting system apps to get more free ram and space on cheap budget phone's with little of both. The likelihood of you needing to free up either on this phone is slim at best my guess never. Just my thoughts as I am interested in why your doing this.
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bladebuddy said:
Try uninstaling foreign keyboards , wallpapers e.t.c. Also I have 100mb+ of system space free so I guess your phone is similar so why do you need more. I can understand deleting system apps to get more free ram and space on cheap budget phone's with little of both. The likelihood of you needing to free up either on this phone is slim at best my guess never. Just my thoughts as I am interested in why your doing this.
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Honestly, I just always have. I have about the same free space as you. I just like having the option of taking the things off of my phone that I don't want on there. What if I did want bone stock, I would be stuck with all that bloat wear. I just always considered it as one of the reasons for rooting your phone.
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jto101680 said:
Honestly, I just always have. I have about the same free space as you. I just like having the option of taking the things off of my phone that I don't want on there. What if I did want bone stock, I would be stuck with all that bloat wear. I just always considered it as one of the reasons for rooting your phone.
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I know where you're coming from as its something I have always done until getting this phone. Don't no what the problem is as all apps I uninstall have been o.k. I always freeze first to make sure there's no surprises then uninstall. You could try greenify from play and put them to sleep if having problems. That said I have no answer to you're specific problem.
Just keep them if its causing problems and enjoy you're phone knowing it can handle the extra unwanted apps.
You could always flash a vanilla android rom ( there's a few about ) with banks minimum gapps and that should do the trick. Just install the apps you need
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Yeah, I'm running Purity with the very minimal banks gapps and the system apps I don't use disabled. It doesn't really bother me. I had asked the same question when 4.4 was first released and I guess figured there was a work around by now. No biggy. Thanks for your incite:thumbup:
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CWM for 4.4?

I just ODIN flash stock rogers 4.4.2 and rooted and debloated. I Was wondering if I can install a custom recovery to flash zips?
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Jose0726 said:
I just ODIN flash stock rogers 4.4.2 and rooted and debloated. I Was wondering if I can install a custom recovery to flash zips?
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I did pretty much the same last night... Installed the "test release" (OYA_I337MOYAFNC1_880525_REV06_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT) of the Bell one on my Virgin phone (because the Official Bell release was downloading REALLY slowly), They had the same build date and file names and sizes so I think they're pretty close to identical.Rooted, then restored my TiBu backup of apps and data, then disabled KNOX, removed the Bell Bloat, and froze the services I don't use (Ant, print, books, flipbook...) and my CWM was there and working... it told me there was an update of CWM available when I first ran it so I went ahead and installed it... I have tested it as much as I can without actually using it to flash over my fresh new ROM, including going to recovery and mounting/unmounting, deleting cache,
Did you noticed it getting a bit slow when you uninstall system apps? I find that in my case it was smooth normal but when I started debloating it felt kindo slow it transitions etc..
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Jose0726 said:
Did you noticed it getting a bit slow when you uninstall system apps? I find that in my case it was smooth normal but when I started debloating it felt kindo slow it transitions etc..
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I did find the battery was definitely draining a lot faster, and it was seeming a bit slow... but now a full day and a full overnight charge later it is much better... Currently showing 72% left after six and a half hours of more or less normal for me use... several txts sent and received, read a few CMC and newspaper articles, checked the weather a bunch of times like any Canadian in winter (are we just hoping it was just a bad dream??) looked at FB, and checked Play Store for updates of my apps... all with wi-fi on.
One thing I do notice is that "Android System" and "Android OS" have taken up 22 and 8 percent as the #2 and #3 consumers respectively... they used to be way down the list... I actually installed a silly kitkat live wallpaper that also has sound that I found amusing... won't last long though 'cause the novelty is already wearing off.
I have not frozen the Samsung Hub, Push, Link, or ChatOn services yet 'cause I thought I might give them a try for a few days...
I will probably freeze them tonight and see if tomorrow shows a difference.

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