Hi Folks,
My first post on N4 section.
Ive just upgraded from a HTC Sensation that I've been running for two years, mostly using CM9 & CM10 on it, so Im well aware of all the benefits to root.
Even been lucky enough to have some of the excellent Devs cooking in this section over at Sensation workbench too, like Showp's kernel with Sweep2wake.
So far, my Nexus has not been rooted, and although I miss custom Rom-ing, im very excited to say that not rooting means that some apps like SkyGo and Barclays Mobile banking & Barclays PingIt are working very nicely for me indeed, something that never happened on my Sensation.
Since my go-to rom on Sensation was AOSP anyway, Im pleased with my stock Android for now, and it just seems that some of the apps I can use now are pushing me into the non-root territory.... for now.
Anyone with any thoughts on my current predicament?
I don't see anything wrong with it although you are going to lose data the moment you decide to root. Unlocking the bootloader would wipe data off your phone if I remember correctly. (Nexus noob as I came from Desire.)
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Agreed, I rooted my xperia, HTC evo and HP touchpad just to run AOSP. My nexus is staying stock for a long time, like you its very convenient to use the Barclays apps, only thing that might tempt me to root is to block ads....
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I was in your boat with my HTC vivid. That thing had to be rooted to make it actually useful. But with the N4, I have no need to root. Ironic, don't you think? We finally get the phone that screams to mod it with how easy it is to root and yet we don't...
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While I respect all of your decisions to hold off on rooting, I will recommend that even if you don't root, unlock your boot loader ASAP because as mentioned above, your data IS wiped when you do so and it is necessary to do so if you ever decide to root in the future.
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I have taken a look at the nexus 4 toolkit by mskip and you backup apps and data before unlocking then restore.... So I don't think it really matters.
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stankyou said:
I don't see anything wrong with it although you are going to lose data the moment you decide to root. Unlocking the bootloader would wipe data off your phone if I remember correctly. (Nexus noob as I came from Desire.)
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Hmm I didn't lose data when I rooted..
Also without root you can't make the most of your battery with under clicking, screen off profiles, cpu sleeper, etc.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
Hmm I didn't lose data when I rooted..
Also without root you can't make the most of your battery with under clicking, screen off profiles, cpu sleeper, etc.
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As soon as I unlock the bootloader, my data is wiped. Maybe you used toolkits and such like what the other guy said and had that option to save stuff. As for me I prefer command lines as much as possible.
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I'm in the same place as you. One of my main reasons for using custom ROMs was because I loved the look of AOSP. Now I have AOSP, I'm less tempted to flash anything or root, because everything works and looks good.
stankyou said:
As soon as I unlock the bootloader, my data is wiped. Maybe you used toolkits and such like what the other guy said and had that option to save stuff. As for me I prefer command lines as much as possible.
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Guide stickied in this forum has a how-to on ADB Backups.
Perform the backup as outlined and unlock...
Restore as outlined and it's as though nothing ever happened...all data restored.
Well, had the Evo V before this and I rooted/modded it to look/run like this phone runs out of the box so I don't plan on rooting at all.
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joshnichols189 said:
While I respect all of your decisions to hold off on rooting, I will recommend that even if you don't root, unlock your boot loader ASAP because as mentioned above, your data IS wiped when you do so and it is necessary to do so if you ever decide to root in the future.
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Will unlocking Bootloader mean apps that don't work on Root phones stop functioning?
No unlocked DOES NOT equal root
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Hey guys, long time rooted/android user here, I am about to get my Nexus 7 on Monday, and I just had a couple of questions. First, since there is no external storage, when you wipe the device to flash different ROMS, does it wipe EVERYTHING? Like, say I have 250mb's of downloaded data for a game...idk say, Dungeon Defenders, I know that when you typically wipe a device, it wipes everything, but will it still wipe that data? Basically, what I am trying to say is, after each wipe/install, will I have to redownload all of that extra data from the game again? That seems like a super big pain in the ass. Hopefully that isn't the case because I don't want to spend 3 hours redownloading data for games after each new flash lol
No. When you unlock for the first time, it cleans out everything... so do that asap before getting cozy.
CWM is designed to leave your storage folder alone. So wiping and flashing won't touch anything saved.
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player911 said:
No. When you unlock for the first time, it cleans out everything... so do that asap before getting cozy.
CWM is designed to leave your storage folder alone. So wiping and flashing won't touch anything saved.
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Sweet! Thanks for the info. The first thing I do when I get a new android device is root it haha. I have heard that you shouldn't use the toolkit with the device though, is that true?
No, at leat in cwm, it wipes everything not in the sdcard partition, so if you keep any nandroids, or app data in that partition, you'll be fine
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oshizzle1991 said:
Sweet! Thanks for the info. The first thing I do when I get a new android device is root it haha. I have heard that you shouldn't use the toolkit with the device though, is that true?
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The toolkits work fine most of the time. Its just always good to learn how to do things through commands in case the toolkits, or anything regarding your nexus has an issue
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clintkev251 said:
The toolkits work fine most of the time. Its just always good to learn how to do things through commands in case the toolkits, or anything regarding your nexus has an issue
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Yeah I understand. I know my way around ADB so honestly for me, it is whatever way is fastest and gives me the least heartburn. I have heard that users start to have issues after the first day with the device, so I will hold off for a day before I root it, just to be sure
Hi all, must have been asked but not sure what to search for so can't find it.
I've been using completely stock up until now and will be rooting once I get my new PC through. So I have all the apps, accounts, settings, layouts etc as I want. Can I backup any of this and restore it properly onto a custom rom?. Most likely will be Paranoid.
Thanks.
You can try to use my backup pro since you're not yet rooted. As far as I know, you can use it without rooting. Probably wit limited functionality. But definitely you cannot get away from restoring some of your settings manually. There's simply no seamless way right now.
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You can try to use my backup pro since you're not yet rooted. As far as I know, you can use it without rooting. Probably wit limited functionality. But definitely you cannot get away from restoring some of your settings manually. There's simply no seamless way right now.
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Thanks for reply, shame, really surprised there isn't, I've rooted now, will do a backup with that for the sake of trying.
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GF bought me a N7 for xmas (love abbreviations) and it was to upgrade from a kindle fire from previous.
I of course rooted the KF in about 5 minutes and its been running full android since first boot but with my N7 I almost feel I dont have to root for some reason. My NS phone is of course rooted but after setting up the N7 its almost so functional after that it seems to much work since rooting will wipe the device.
Anyway if you guys were in my position would you root or no?
If you need/use apps, that need root, yes you should ^^ if not, IMHO you don't need to, for me and my use (gaming, chatting, browsing, celebrating, xdaing) stock is very comfortable and nice.
It really depends on how you want to use it ^^ test stock for a few days and decide after testing
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I didn't due to not having my laptop at time of purchase. While all is well and I don't need root for anything I have been thinking about rooting just because its a nexus and knowing I haven't modded it in the least is starting to semi bother me. However now I only have 8GB free on a 32GB version and really don't want to lose all my data. So I'd recommend it so you don't regret not doing it down the road.
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95Z28 said:
I didn't due to not having my laptop at time of purchase. While all is well and I don't need root for anything I have been thinking about rooting just because its a nexus and knowing I havuse en't modded it in the least is starting to semi bother me. However now I only have 8GB free on a 32GB version and really don't want to lose all my data. So I'd recommend it so you don't regret not doing it down the road.
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I don't think rooting will wipe SD. It will wipe os. I just went to install button savior and saw it needed too so I'm pretty much decided. I turned on backup through google so hopefully when i root i can just use Google to restore my data for me and just use apex to restore may desktop
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GF bought me a N7 for xmas (love abbreviations) and it was to upgrade from a kindle fire from previous.
I of course rooted the KF in about 5 minutes and its been running full android since first boot but with my N7 I almost feel I dont have to root for some reason. My NS phone is of course rooted but after setting up the N7 its almost so functional after that it seems to much work since rooting will wipe the device.
Anyway if you guys were in my position would you root or no?
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I would at least unlock the bootloader since it will wipe your tab completely. Then later on if you want to root you won't need to unlock it.
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I got mine for christmas too. Rooted it on the same evening and it's a total different experience. Try flashing Paranoid Android and use Action Launcher. It's the ultimate tablet experience for me because both ROM and Launcher use the 7" display the best.
I root because I know I'm going to need root apps even if I don't feel like using a custom ROM.
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I really think there is no reason to root. Stock on the n7 is flawless IMO. I rooted mine just to familiarize myself with the manual process but I have no intention of changing anything. I even got rid of custom recovery and re locked my bootloader.
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I would root for the access
tevil said:
GF bought me a N7 for xmas (love abbreviations) and it was to upgrade from a kindle fire from previous.
I of course rooted the KF in about 5 minutes and its been running full android since first boot but with my N7 I almost feel I dont have to root for some reason. My NS phone is of course rooted but after setting up the N7 its almost so functional after that it seems to much work since rooting will wipe the device.
Anyway if you guys were in my position would you root or no?
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Always ROOT.
I would root my electric toothbrush if I could.
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I don't think rooting will wipe SD. It will wipe os. I just went to install button savior and saw it needed too so I'm pretty much decided. I turned on backup through google so hopefully when i root i can just use Google to restore my data for me and just use apex to restore may desktop
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Your right, I just mean in my case since I didn't unlock bootloader or anything in order to obtain root I would lose all my data. But actually just the rooting part shouldn't wipe anything.
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Had my nexus for 1 week and thinking about rooting reason why I think I might root is because I have had some laggy start ups. now I've rooted my HTC ONE so is it the same process?
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Absolutely yes. And unlock the bootloader. And flash a faster rom and kernel. You won't believe how much quicker it'll be. It may be a little different than rooting the One, but definitely no harder. Just download the Nexus 7 Toolkit and it's all built in.
Where can I find the tool kit
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smarty2322 said:
Where can I find the tool kit
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Like how you can find nearly anything: by searching
Or at least read the stickies
Others recommend not using the toolkit at all, but learning to unlock bootloader via command lines, again you can search for guides on this:thumbup:
Good luck!
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Where can I find the tool kit
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New method : without unlocking bootloader : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2233852
Or you can simply use this toolkit : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Don't think, DO!
To make a long story short, if it's Android, root it... Period. No exceptions. Even if you plan on keeping the stock ROM/kernel combo you can still do many things with a rooted device you couldn't possibly or easily do on a non-rooted device. Uninstall system apps to free up more memory, convert user installed apps to system apps to have them load faster, adjust CPU frequencies and voltages for better battery life or performance, even making use of multiple profiles such as screen on vs screen off or charging/charged vs below a certain battery percent threshold. The point is, with root, there's no limit to what you can do, how far you want to go is entirely up to you!
I want to update to 4.3 but I can't afford losing my apps. And If I root my N4 does my games still available.
Andro_iOS said:
I want to update to 4.3 but I can't afford losing my apps. And If I root my N4 does my games still available.
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Assuming I got your questions right right:
1. If you have the preinstalled stock android and go through with the normal 4.3 update automatically offered by google, it won't affect your apps.
2. Rooting will only give you more "permissions" to change stuff on your phone. Some apps actually require the phone to be rooted to work properly. It should not affect your apps as well. Keep in mind that we are just talking about rooting. If you do this for later usage of another rom, installing that WILL affect your apps.
Hope I could help you.
So If I root this, I will not lose my games and apps right?
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Andro_iOS said:
So If I root this, I will not lose my games and apps right?
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As long as you do this carefully and don't screw it up (just look for instructions here, they are quiet good) then your apps will be fine.
Of course, if you do screw it up, your apps will be the least of your problems.
I recommend reading this beforehand:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367406
and this for the actual rooting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
Does every Nexus 4 bootloader is locked?
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