[Q] Nexus 10 Stock LCD Density - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Similar to a few other threads, I'm curious what the stock LCD density is for the Nexus 10 tablet; I recently changed ROMS before thinking to look at the one that shipped.

roperp said:
Similar to a few other threads, I'm curious what the stock LCD density is for the Nexus 10 tablet; I recently changed ROMS before thinking to look at the one that shipped.
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300 i believe. Or 299 to be more precise.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FcfLFiI6z1faxQ42w&sig2=OVmSdwZC6q82l5lcPSxA9Q
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Yes 299 but 300 sounds better I pads retina is 264 if I remember correctly we win!
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Physically, its 299. But in software, its 320 as Android only has resources for a small handful of DPIs. Manufactures will use the closest one to their device when shipping.

Jotokun said:
Physically, its 299. But in software, its 320 as Android only has resources for a small handful of DPIs. Manufactures will use the closest one to their device when shipping.
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Care to elaborate? I'd love to learn more on that.
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roperp said:
Care to elaborate? I'd love to learn more on that.
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In a nutshell, because pixel based art doesn't scale well, and it would be insane to create a graphic for literally every single possible screen density, Android has the following software options for pixel densities: ldpi (120), mdpi (160), hdpi (240) and xhdpi (320). Technically you CAN set it to something else, but then the market breaks and things look ugly since it'll be forced to scale another size. Its Google's way of ensuring sanity for software developers, since going a little off wont hurt anything. All that setting affects is how many pixels individual graphics take, the higher the dpi, the more pixels used. So a lower DPI would result in less detailed, smaller icons and UI but more space for content. A higher DPI would be the exact opposite.
If you want verification of this, try an app like Elixir and look at what it says your display DPI is. On stock and CM10.1, it says the density is 299 but clicking more info shows "extra-high (320)"
Its a long read meant more for developers, but its explained here: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html

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Nexus 7 for kids? Has micro SD slot!!

Man this this is just like a nexus 7 but with an micro SD slot but its for kids. But it don't have NFC and the res is slightly lower
http://www.nabitablet.com/specs/nabi2
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Thick as a brick and child proof padding.
Poor low resolution screen.
Apparently no Google Play Store.
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Got my daughter the nabi 2 and it's pretty bad-ass. Only thing is on the nabi 2 it's missing Google services framework so you can't even side load any Google apps. The only way to do that is to root it which reading is fairly simple. Just look at the specs on it and it's a kids tablet.
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It's not that thick, the protective padding makes it thick. Actually it is just slightly thicker than the nexus 7. The screen resolution is decent, I mean c'mon it's for kids. I really don't think a kid is gonna complain about resolution.
mcdermott1 said:
It's not that thick, the protective padding makes it thick. Actually it is just slightly thicker than the nexus 7. The screen resolution is decent, I mean c'mon it's for kids. I really don't think a kid is gonna complain about resolution.
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I don't disagree with you. I disagree with the OP who described it as "just like the N7".
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I was saying spec wise its like it
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Except not really.
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While the design and stock UI mods are definitely kid-oriented, and as such may not be the best build quality/buggy, the specs are very similar to the Nexus 7. All I can see different is lower screen resolution (though the same as Kindle Fire), lack of NFC, and ICS rather than Jelly Bean.
In fact, it has some things a little better than the N7..microSD slot, HDMI out, and a 2MP FFC..for the same price point..
While I probably wouldn't want it, it's pretty classy for a kid and it goes to show that the price/hardware ratio is really getting better.
Yeah it's like the N7 except it isn't specs are one thing, but looks and build quality is always different. Might be kid friendly and all, but it's still different there is going to probably be 0 dev support for that device. Personally having extra SD slot and HDMI out isn't important, but that's just me
Tweezydak1d said:
Man this this is just like a nexus 7 but with an micro SD slot but its for kids. But it don't have NFC and the res is slightly lower
http://www.nabitablet.com/specs/nabi2
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This has nothing to do with the Nexus 7, change the title of this thread
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masully84 said:
This has nothing to do with the Nexus 7, change the title of this thread
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Since the Nexus 7 has been touted as the first and only tablet with its processor, another one with the same processor and price has something to do with it. Its specs are pretty equal, except the screen resolution and it has an SD slot and HDMI out. It could get picked up by developers. Just because its aimed at a different market doesn't mean it won't, ie Nook Color.
mcdermott1 said:
Only thing is on the nabi 2 it's missing Google services framework so you can't even side load any Google apps. The only way to do that is to root it which reading is fairly simple.
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Where did you see how to root it? I would love to restore game data from her nabi to her nabi2. Original nabi was rooted, so really want to root this one as well.
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Dropline said:
Where did you see how to root it? I would love to restore game data from her nabi to her nabi2. Original nabi was rooted, so really want to root this one as well.
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Seconded! Would love to find root instructions for the Nabi 2...
cgendreau said:
Seconded! Would love to find root instructions for the Nabi 2...
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Trying something now.. well was in the middle of trying, eating now when done I will finish what I am trying.
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This thread's title is misleading. Please change it.
Is it possible to open the nexus 7 and replace the 8GB/16GB NAND with a higher capacity one?
Apple will sue this to death. Cracking spec - tempted, but I'm English.
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pwned101 said:
Is it possible to open the nexus 7 and replace the 8GB/16GB NAND with a higher capacity one?
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I thought I read somewhere that in theory, it is possible, but you would probably have to have quite the soldering skills to even begin to do this.
Wow, this thing has impressive specs for a device aimed at children. It almost seems wasteful to give something this powerful to a five year old. The display resolution might be lower than the Nexus 7's, but it's the same resolution as the other good 7" tablets before the Nexus 7, not to mention that the pixel density is higher than non-retina iPads.
AZImmortal said:
Wow, this thing has impressive specs for a device aimed at children. It almost seems wasteful to give something this powerful to a five year old. The display resolution might be lower than the Nexus 7's, but it's the same resolution as the other good 7" tablets before the Nexus 7, not to mention that the pixel density is higher than non-retina iPads.
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The Nabi(Original) was underpowered, so they did not want to make the same mistake on Nabi2.
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I hadn't heard of the Nabi until now so I'm not familiar with the experience of the original, but I looked at its specs and aside from having a low resolution (800x480), the original looks like it should have the horsepower to run things smoothly. With a dual core 1.1ghz processor, it's more powerful than my old Galaxy Tab, which ran ICS pretty well. I suspect that it must have been more of a software issue than hardware.
Edit: I paid closer attention to the specs and can see that it's 2 x 533mhz, in which case yeah, that's pretty slow.

Changing LCD Resolution

Finally got someone to show me their Note 2. Very nice, but i still have the same grip about the aspect ratio-16:9, not 16:10 like the OG Note. Placing both phones side by side in landscape or "tablet" mode, The OG shows 5 emails in gmail, while te N2 shows 4. Most tablets also have 16:10(like my Note 10.1) and 1280x800, which what makes the OG a "phablet" to me. THe N2 just is a big s3 at this resolution.
Has anyone used one of those LCD resolution apps? I see setting 320 dpi in the apps change the res to 1280x800, has anyone tried this on the N2? This is literally the only thing keeping me from getting it. The larger, phone looking display of information seems like such a waste of screen space. I want the tablet part of "phablet", the more lines of text the better.
Thank you for your input
I use density changer from the market and set it to 240dpi. Going back just looks weird now, everything's so BIG. You'll need a new keyboard though because the stock Samsung one FCs but there's loads on the market. Might be adviseable to have one readily downloaded before you change density. Some other apps go slightly awry but the plus points easily outweigh the HUGE icons.
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[MOD]240 DPI apps for samsung roms 4.1.1 & 4.1.2 [Update 27/11/12]
nymviper1126 said:
Has anyone used one of those LCD resolution apps? I see setting 320 dpi in the apps change the res to 1280x800, has anyone tried this on the N2? This is literally the only thing keeping me from getting it. The larger, phone looking display of information seems like such a waste of screen space. I want the tablet part of "phablet", the more lines of text the better.
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This is not relevant, but I find this Interesting, because I am the opposite - I would not have considered the Galaxy Note II if it had retained the resolution of the original Galaxy Note. My primary use of the Note II will be for watching videos, and almost all of my video files are 16:9, so the black bars would bother me. (Strange, I know.) I also have a netbook with a resolution 1280x720, and yet, I have no problems with the fact that the screen has a shorter height than it would on a 1280x800 screen.
nymviper1126 said:
Finally got someone to show me their Note 2. Very nice, but i still have the same grip about the aspect ratio-16:9, not 16:10 like the OG Note. Placing both phones side by side in landscape or "tablet" mode, The OG shows 5 emails in gmail, while te N2 shows 4. Most tablets also have 16:10(like my Note 10.1) and 1280x800, which what makes the OG a "phablet" to me. THe N2 just is a big s3 at this resolution.
Has anyone used one of those LCD resolution apps? I see setting 320 dpi in the apps change the res to 1280x800, has anyone tried this on the N2? This is literally the only thing keeping me from getting it. The larger, phone looking display of information seems like such a waste of screen space. I want the tablet part of "phablet", the more lines of text the better.
Thank you for your input
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ye i modify build.prop and tweak my dpi, you have to be careful though or Samsungs stock keyboard goes into a FC loop of doom anything under 270dpi needs a keyboard replacement before you make the change. Theirs a thread somewhere with stocks apps modded for lower dpi.
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[MOD]240 DPI apps for samsung roms 4.1.1 & 4.1.2 [Update 27/11/12]
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This one in fact
jetsetwilly said:
I use density changer from the market and set it to 240dpi. Going back just looks weird now, everything's so BIG. You'll need a new keyboard though because the stock Samsung one FCs but there's loads on the market. Might be adviseable to have one readily downloaded before you change density. Some other apps go slightly awry but the plus points easily outweigh the HUGE icons.
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sounds excatly like what i need! Do you think it equates to the 1280x800? Do you think you could take a screenshot of gmail in landscape mode?
Seeing 4 icons on a stock note 2 is just so blehhhh....im on nova on my N1, so i would prob use it on the N2 as well.
eumyang said:
This is not relevant, but I find this Interesting, because I am the opposite - I would not have considered the Galaxy Note II if it had retained the resolution of the original Galaxy Note. My primary use of the Note II will be for watching videos, and almost all of my video files are 16:9, so the black bars would bother me. (Strange, I know.) I also have a netbook with a resolution 1280x720, and yet, I have no problems with the fact that the screen has a shorter height than it would on a 1280x800 screen.
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I dont mind black bars. In fact, if you watch a real cinematic experience, one would want 2.39:1, not the 16:9 "HD" they push on us
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Thank you for this. Not good as i must study all weekend. Looks like my GF will be getting me a N2 since i got her an S3.
Is the Att version modable to have multiview yet? Or all the goodies you all love? I have not rooted any phone yet(may practive on my GS1) because I dont want to get sucked into the rabbit hole of reading thru forums for hourse!

Pixels

I am thinking of getting a 32gb nexus 7 tomorrow .
My question is are the pixels noticeable ?
I know on my Acer a100 they are very noticeable & annoying.
Also what decently priced case like the ottorbox will you recommend ?
I would like to say, I searched about the pixles and did not find anything .
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myturbo1 said:
I am thinking of getting a 32gb nexus 7 tomorrow .
My question is are the pixels noticeable ?
I know on my Acer a100 they are very noticeable & annoying.
Also what decently priced case like the ottorbox will you recommend ?
I would like to say, I searched about the pixles and did not find anything .
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the nexus 7 screen is a LOT better, the ppi goes from the 169 on the a100 to 213 on the n7. of course it is not a retina display and you can see pixels if you look hard, but it is a significant improvement over the a100. in fact, in normal day to day usage im not able to see the pixels at at all other than fully zoomed out in the browser. hope this helps.
Of you look you can see the pixels, but then again I can see the pixels on the iPad and iPhone and my gnex however on my gnex its harder. I cant tell at all on my nexus 4 But somewhere around 350ppi or so it becomes impossible to tell a difference
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The DPI on the N7 is one of the highest around. They are not noticeable without your face pushed up to the glass and even then it would be hard.
TVs have super low DPI (60?). PC monitors are better... But nothing like newer gen mobile devices. Screen tech up to date and superb. Nothing to worry about.
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player911 said:
The DPI on the N7 is one of the highest around. They are not noticeable without your face pushed up to the glass and even then it would be hard.
TVs have super low DPI (60?). PC monitors are better... But nothing like newer gen mobile devices. Screen tech up to date and superb. Nothing to worry about.
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sure, but remember: tv's have low pixel density, because it was seen from afar. in contrast, the mobile devices are designed to be used almost right up your face, and therefore you need to have a very high dpi screen just to keep jaggedness away. pc monitors are somewhere in the middle so they have good but not great ppis. when you compare ppi's, you cannot directly compare a tv screen with a smartphone/tablet screen, as they are designed and used in very different ways. so keep the comparison apples to apples (no pun intended . and n7 has a much better resolution than the a100 the op currently has, it will be a very noticeable improvement.
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I cant tell at all on my nexus 4 But somewhere around 350ppi or so it becomes impossible to tell a difference
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When you consider that the Nexus 4 has nearly the same screen resolution as the Nexus 7 but on a smaller screen size (1280x720 vs 1280x800) it's going to b quite a bit crisper.
People usually don't notice til they see something better.
Well I can notice on almost everything lol.
Because I do allot of gaming on my phone & tabs.
So that is a huge deciding factor .
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myturbo1 said:
Well I can notice on almost everything lol.
Because I do allot of gaming on my phone & tabs.
So that is a huge deciding factor .
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1280x800 @ 7" is rather crisp, and most certainly noticeable over most other tablets (Galaxy Tab 2 7.0" for example is only 1024x600 on nearly the same size screen).
The Nexus 10" is 300dpi with a screen resolution of 2560 x 1600. (versus the 216dpi @ 1280x800), so visually the 10 is much nicer, just not as powerful a processor (But more ram, I think it was intended for those drooling over eyecandy).
Moral of the story, quit worrying about the DPI on the N7. It is one of the highest DPI screens of any 7" (or mobile). You sure aren't going to be able to see pixels doing anything other then staring at non-moving black on white text, 1" from your eye. More importantly, you still cannot make out the pixels as they are so small that they blur together.
Anything that moves or has motion, won't be visible unless they are meant to be visible.

Nexus 10 Fonts

Hi,
I recently bought my Nexus 10 and I notice a few issues with respect to the display of fonts. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 too with me for quiet a while. I was told that the Nexus 10 is superior with respect to the display compared to the Note 10.1. The fonts on the Note are quiet bold and bright while the same on Nexus is very thin and light. I tried increasing the font size but it's still very thin and awkward compared to the Note. Is this because of the higher resolution and ppi of the Nexus? Is there no way to change that?
I am considering getting the 10, and would like to know opinions on this. Can TC include a screenshot of the font?
Have you tried ifonts on app store? you can change fonts on the nexus 7, so maybe the 10. Some fonts might look thicker and bolder....
AFAIK it's about the font used by Touchwiz and AOSP, on my S4 with TW ROM the font was one way, while on AOSP was other . Try that iFont app suggested, may do the work for you

Prediction time ... when will we have a higher resolution Note 8?

I tried a nexus 7 and 10 before trying and keeping the Note 8. I love the size and feel, but do wish the resolution was a bit higher. 250 ppi would suffice.
So when will I get my wish? I actually don't care about the s pen. I'd love a fast, 4 core, high-res Tab 3 8. Go!
Note 8 only came out this year so I predict next year at the earliest.
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It doesn't have to be a note though. A tab 3 variant or whatever.
I guess the new ipad mini would meet my requirements. Too bad it's a mac!
rumatt said:
It doesn't have to be a note though. A tab 3 variant or whatever.
I guess the new ipad mini would meet my requirements. Too bad it's a mac!
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So..you're asking when an 8 inch, high PPI device is coming out? I'm guessing when the next iPad Mini hits.
I forgot who it was, but some company came out with a high res screen on a10" tablet with a Wacom digitizer, but if I remember right they are asking $699 for it. So there might be a reason we don't have high res screens.
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I'd rather have the S-Pen than a higher resolution screen. But I wouldn't mind exactly the same device with a 1080p screen, 32GB flash, and a newer processor.
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Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
ExploreMN said:
Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
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God damn. You just triggered my gadget lust. That looks like a pretty nice machine.
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ExploreMN said:
Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
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Nice. But too big. 8-9" is ideal for me in my opinion.
If the rumors are right it looks like the answer is the Slate 8 pro, hopefully later this fall.
rumatt said:
If the rumors are right it looks like the answer is the Slate 8 pro, hopefully later this fall.
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True but aside from the upgraded display I note there's nothing mentioned about a digitizer or price point.
Article here.
Still early I grant you but nothing there for me.
ExploreMN said:
Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
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The reviews I've read said it wasn't great.
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I just don't understand why people hope to appear a new note 8.0 with a higher pixel density, the actual display is very good. I want displays to be more energy efficient rather than more ppi. And the processor is good enough for everything. For me is just marketing.
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pnKK said:
I just don't understand why people hope to appear a new note 8.0 with a higher pixel density, the actual display is very good. I want displays to be more energy efficient rather than more ppi. And the processor is good enough for everything. For me is just marketing.
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I mostly agree with you, but at 189 I still notice it sometimes when reading ssmaller fonts. Mid to low 200's is enough for me.
pnKK said:
I just don't understand why people hope to appear a new note 8.0 with a higher pixel density, the actual display is very good. I want displays to be more energy efficient rather than more ppi. And the processor is good enough for everything. For me is just marketing.
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Technically, you are right. Realistically, the Galaxy S4 display spoiled me. Having said that, the Note 8 display is much better than my MacBook Pro for example, so it's nothing to sneeze at.
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skeeterpro said:
True but aside from the upgraded display I note there's nothing mentioned about a digitizer or price point.
Article here.
Still early I grant you but nothing there for me.
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And the thing appears to have a Tegra 4 SoC. After the POS that the Tegra 3 was (personal experience), I don't think I'll be touching a Tegra SoC again. Samsung or Qualcomm for me, seems like they can be trusted to deliver high performance consistently.
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I mostly agree with you, but at 189 I still notice it sometimes when reading ssmaller fonts. Mid to low 200's is enough for me.
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I think we all just need to enjoy our current devices, that is the reason why we bought them, and yes no one will be disappointed by a newer display with a higher ppi on next Note 8. But we really need more efficient energy consumption on these devices so we don't feel that stress when your juice run out and you really need the device.
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Technically, you are right. Realistically, the Galaxy S4 display spoiled me. Having said that, the Note 8 display is much better than my MacBook Pro for example, so it's nothing to sneeze at.
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For me that display is not a reason to spend 600€ (Europe, doh... ) to upgrade from S3, if u have an older one, it's ok. So... everyone with their needs and budget.
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pnKK said:
I think we all just need to enjoy our current devices, that is the reason why we bought them, and yes no one will be disappointed by a newer display with a higher ppi on next Note 8. But we really need more efficient energy consumption on these devices so we don't feel that stress when your juice run out and you really need the device.
For me that display is not a reason to spend 600€ (Europe, doh... ) to upgrade from S3, if u have an older one, it's ok. So... everyone with their needs and budget.
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Agreed. I came from the S3 to the S4 and the S3 display is excellent as well. But the S4 display is undeniably better, far more so than even the iPhone 5.
I have no issues paying more for a better note 8. I love my note but more flash memory 32 or 64gig would be nice and a higher res screen. Our screen looks great, its bright, colors and vibrant, and very clear but l can see the pixels and l would rather not.
Please samsung make us a PREMIUM 8inch tablet
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efanatic said:
I have no issues paying more for a better note 8. I love my note but more flash memory 32 or 64gig would be nice and a higher res screen. Our screen looks great, its bright, colors and vibrant, and very clear but l can see the pixels and l would rather not.
Please samsung make us a PREMIUM 8inch tablet
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Technically speaking, the current 8" Note is "premium" as there is nothing better on the market in the category. having said that, neither I nor would most people pay more money for an 8" tablet, considering that the Note 8 is already the most expensive one out there.
I know that's why l got the note but they could have done much much better. The note can be had for around $350 and sometime less. I would say $450 isn't out of reach for a kick butt 8inch note tablet. I know a few that would pay that

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