why root or custom rom a stock Android device? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just bought my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 installed.
The question is nexus 4 has stock AOSP android software. Why are their Roms like AOKP or CM10.1 which is the same anyway?
Also nexus devices are always the first to get the updates so why custom rom?

aharnick2013 said:
I just bought my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 installed.
The question is nexus 4 has stock AOSP android software. Why are their Roms like AOKP or CM10.1 which is the same anyway?
Also nexus devices are always the first to get the updates so why custom rom?
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Because custom roms can and do offer new features, better battery life/better performance, more customizability and all of that allows us to make our smartphones feel a bit more personal.
The reason I use android phones is because I enjoy the freedom of being able to tinker with every part of it rather than be locked into the same corporate borefest offered by Fruit-based phone companies.
That's my opinion anyway.

aharnick2013 said:
I just bought my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 installed.
The question is nexus 4 has stock AOSP android software. Why are their Roms like AOKP or CM10.1 which is the same anyway?
Also nexus devices are always the first to get the updates so why custom rom?
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Because that's what XDA is all about. Besides custom ROMs add features that pure AOSP doesn't have. Basically it comes down to personal choice.

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[Q] Custom Rom or Stock?

So I've had my Nexus 7 for awhile now and wanted to getting everyones opinion on how they run their Nexus. What rom do you run if you run one or why do you choose to run it stock? I am currently running a simple TabletUI.zip. Give me you thoughts and opinions.
In still running it in stock because it's good enough for me atm x). I don't need tablet ui or something else. Opened bootloader and rooted.
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I am very much into custom roms for my Sprint G'Nex but for the Nexus 7 I run stock. I do have it unlocked and rooted just in case but as of right now, for what I use it for, stock JB is great.
i started with rooting and tried the franco kernel.
Someday i just tried a custom rom. Not for any reason, just trying and playing around a little bit.
Thats mainly it.
I do it, because i can
Stock is good, but Paranoid Android is REALLY good, and the tweaks it has are probably much better than the TabletUI.zip. I just saw a ROM called "Cookies and Cream" that is based off of Paranoid Android and Codename Android, so that one's probably worth checking out too.

[Q] TW 4.2.2 vs GE 4.3 (custom roms)

Hello,
Seems there are a lot of TW vs AOSP/AOKP/GE threads but what I'm asking is for a custom TW 4.2.2 rom such as Goldeneye, Infamous, etc... vs GE 4.3 what is everyone running as their DD?
After trying a lot of the TW roms with KT Kernel it seems that no matter how fast you make your TW rom, the GE 4.3 Rom just has the increased smoothness mitigating any smidgen of lag. I really want to run GE as my DD but am conflicted of losing TW camera. I know that in the Sprint roms forum someone is working on a port of TW camera but until then what is your thought process?
Is speed/smoothness your #1 feature regardless?
Personally, I'm running Goldeneye 4.0 w/ Ktoonsez Kernel 7/26/13 at the moment
I came from a Galaxy Nexus and always ran AOSP based roms. However, with the S4 I am only using TW roms because I like a lot of the touch wiz features. If there was a way to keep them (such as smart stay/scroll, air view, etc) I would probably go back to AOSP. Though I'll probably end up going back to AOSP when Key Lime Pie comes out because I won't be patient enough to wait for samsung to come out with their 5.0 update.
mattpayne92 said:
I came from a Galaxy Nexus and always ran AOSP based roms. However, with the S4 I am only using TW roms because I like a lot of the touch wiz features. If there was a way to keep them (such as smart stay/scroll, air view, etc) I would probably go back to AOSP. Though I'll probably end up going back to AOSP when Key Lime Pie comes out because I won't be patient enough to wait for samsung to come out with their 5.0 update.
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That is a great point, I think if Key Lime Pie came out and only came out as a GE rom, I would jump ship immediately.
armixia said:
Hello,
Seems there are a lot of TW vs AOSP/AOKP/GE threads but what I'm asking is for a custom TW 4.2.2 rom such as Goldeneye, Infamous, etc... vs GE 4.3 what is everyone running as their DD?
After trying a lot of the TW roms with KT Kernel it seems that no matter how fast you make your TW rom, the GE 4.3 Rom just has the increased smoothness mitigating any smidgen of lag. I really want to run GE as my DD but am conflicted of losing TW camera. I know that in the Sprint roms forum someone is working on a port of TW camera but until then what is your thought process?
Is speed/smoothness your #1 feature regardless?
Personally, I'm running Goldeneye 4.0 w/ Ktoonsez Kernel 7/26/13 at the moment
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That port isnt for the 4.3 GE rom...its for the 4.2.2 GE rom.
4.2.2 GE roms still has touchwiz frakeworks which allows touchwiz applications to be ported and installed. In the 4.3 GE rom, those frameworks no lomger exist....making porting a much harder task as you would nit only need to port the camera but also the required frameworks...something that I dont think has ever been done
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mg2195 said:
That port isnt for the 4.3 GE rom...its for the 4.2.2 GE rom.
4.2.2 GE roms still has touchwiz frakeworks which allows touchwiz applications to be ported and installed. In the 4.3 GE rom, those frameworks no lomger exist....making porting a much harder task as you would nit only need to port the camera but also the required frameworks...something that I dont think has ever been done
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Definitely agree with that. Sorry should have made it clear that I want some opinions based on never being a TW Camera port on GE roms.
My .02
I've had the S3, Note 2, and now the S4 and always rooted and custom ROMs. I always steered clear of the non TW ROMs for one reason, the camera was sub par. The 4.3 that was ported and recently removed (Per copyright issues) is what I'm on now, and it's hands down the best phone experience I've ever had. It's smooth, stable, simple and blazes the phone! Out of the box, the only change I had to make was to the APN to get AT&T LTE. You simply can't go wrong with this rom, even giving up the fancy schmancy gestures and such..
kryptoniteguy said:
I've had the S3, Note 2, and now the S4 and always rooted and custom ROMs. I always steered clear of the non TW ROMs for one reason, the camera was sub par. The 4.3 that was ported and recently removed (Per copyright issues) is what I'm on now, and it's hands down the best phone experience I've ever had. It's smooth, stable, simple and blazes the phone! Out of the box, the only change I had to make was to the APN to get AT&T LTE. You simply can't go wrong with this rom, even giving up the fancy schmancy gestures and such..
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Wow so tempted to flash 4.3 right now.
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mg2195 said:
That port isnt for the 4.3 GE rom...its for the 4.2.2 GE rom.
4.2.2 GE roms still has touchwiz frakeworks which allows touchwiz applications to be ported and installed. In the 4.3 GE rom, those frameworks no lomger exist....making porting a much harder task as you would nit only need to port the camera but also the required frameworks...something that I dont think has ever been done
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Are you sure about this? GE4.3 still has functioning S-View. Wouldn't S-View be dead (Like in CM) if the TW framework was not included?

Anyone has a link to the original 4.4 rom?

I could only find the dev ones, could someone provide me a link? And dont say USE THE SEARCH cause i already did and may have missed it.
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There is no original 4.4 rom for the N4.
It will be available in the coming weeks.
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failly said:
There is no original 4.4 rom for the N4.
It will be available in the coming weeks.
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Short and sweet, we need more people like you
Yes we do, but welcome to the world xDD
on top of everything, these 4.4 roms arent the full roms. they are all hybrids using files from 4.3 to work. the binaries havent been released yet, so there isnt a true 4.4 rom for the nexus 5 yet. only when they get released will we have true 4.4 roms.
simms22 said:
on top of everything, these 4.4 roms arent the full roms. they are all hybrids using files from 4.3 to work. the binaries havent been released yet, so there isnt a true 4.4 rom for the nexus 5 yet. only when they get released will we have true 4.4 roms.
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Just a small newbie question, suppose, god forbids, one day Google stops updating Nexus 4 just like they have done to Galaxy Nexus, flashing then latest Android ROMs will also be considered as half-backed ROMs since binaries would also not be released?
ngr.hd said:
Just a small newbie question, suppose, god forbids, one day Google stops updating Nexus 4 just like they have done to Galaxy Nexus, flashing then latest Android ROMs will also be considered as half-backed ROMs since binaries would also not be released?
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well, i wouldnt say half baked, but yea. but the galaxy nexus has a special circumstance, texas instruments discontinued maling the processors and are not providing any kind of support for it anymore. no binaries from ti, no galaxy nexus support.
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[Q] G2 Untouched stock Android

I am in dilemma between Nexus 5 and LG G2. Their price is same in my country. But I really love the stock Android experience, but I don't like Roms like CM.
So is there any ROM which is untouched stock Android, just like Nexus 5?
Thanks.
EDIT: Wow, I am actually surprised that there is no, untouched vanilla stock android Rom for such phones.
Is it not possible to do or ...?
Zhoene said:
I am in dilemma between Nexus 5 and LG G2. Their price is same in my country. But I really love the stock Android experience, but I don't like Roms like CM.
So is there any ROM which is untouched stock Android, just like Nexus 5?
Thanks.
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Well if you want an untouched ROM, I'm assuming what you want is root access. What you can do is just root your G2 and then you'll have an untouched stock ROM but still have root access.
Demonlinx said:
Well if you want an untouched ROM, I'm assuming what you want is root access. What you can do is just root your G2 and then you'll have an untouched stock ROM but still have root access.
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Yea, but I don't want LG ui, I want the Rom to be just like Nexus 5 and untouched. Is there any such thing?
So can I somehow use one of the ROMs from here (untouched, but just modified for G2)?:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Absolutly not I would also like stock vanilla android on my G2, but as of now I can't find a stock rom without annoying bugs(horrible stock camera, random reboots, bad sound quality) i ran mahdi-rom for a couple of days, but reverted to a lg stock based rom because of battery life and stability. My goal is to get a pure vanilla bugfree stock rom, but I guess I just have to wait.. :/ FYI: N5 and G2 cost the same here as well, but i chose G2 because of better lense and bigger battery. I figured that I could change the software on my G2, harder to change the hardware of the N5
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Wow, I am actually surprised that there is no, untouched vanilla stock android Rom for such phones.
Is it not possible to do or ...?
Not true. @houstonn has an awesome ASOPA Rom that runs beautifully on my G2. Plain vanilla for the taking...:victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
mikefeFe said:
Not true. @houstonn has an awesome ASOPA Rom that runs beautifully on my G2. Plain vanilla for the taking...:victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
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But it's still touched right? Not exactly N5 ROM I guess?
Untouched aosp is the base upon which PA and aokp and cm etc are built. If you are looking for something akin to the nexus 4 conversion that was available for the Optimus g, it doesn't exist. The nexus 5 and the g2 are similar, but not as alike as the n4 and Optimus g are.

[NERDS GITT] Switching from iPhone 5S to Samsung Galaxy S5

Before I start, I use "nerds" in the lowest form of derogatory possible. I am a nerd myself, just not in touch with the Android life.
I've had an iPhone since iPhone 4S. I have a 5S. Getting a Galaxy S5 for the specs and size of the phone. However, I'm not a fan of TouchWiz + Bloatware. I know all Droid devices come with bloatware. What firmware, official or custom, would be the best. I'll say right now before I was leaning towards to the Nexus 5 due to its firmware is straight from Google and isn't necessarily filled with as much bloatware.
Any suggestions?
Lottodaumas said:
Any suggestions?
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Read more? .. so that you'll have a better idea of what would be best for you. Touchwiz (S5) and Nexus are almost antithetical UI experiences. So it's an odd comparison. If you strongly favour either one, then you'd be unlikely to really like the other one.
It's easy to debloat the S5 though. A simple search will find many threads on debloating the S5. But arguably the best way to proceed is to root your phone then install a custom ROM. A custom ROM is a ROM that is already debloated and optimized to run on your phone. Custom ROMs vary from basically 99.9% stock (just debloated) e.g. XtreStoLite. To ROMs that add a lot more customizations e.g. Phoenix or Alliance.
As to rooting, Towel root is the method most people prefer and it's basically just a click or two. Look for the prominent Towel root thread or you'll find links to it on most custom ROM threads. Note that Towel root only works on pre June 6th firmware builds. So if you have a very recent firmware you'd need to first write an older build of 4.4.2 firmware to your phone. Then root with Towelroot and flash a custom ROM.
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Lottodaumas said:
Before I start, I use "nerds" in the lowest form of derogatory possible. I am a nerd myself, just not in touch with the Android life.
I've had an iPhone since iPhone 4S. I have a 5S. Getting a Galaxy S5 for the specs and size of the phone. However, I'm not a fan of TouchWiz + Bloatware. I know all Droid devices come with bloatware. What firmware, official or custom, would be the best. I'll say right now before I was leaning towards to the Nexus 5 due to its firmware is straight from Google and isn't necessarily filled with as much bloatware.
Any suggestions?
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To be honest here as i had the Nexus 5, its fair to say that the Nexus 5 with for instance a custom kernel like Franco kernel is faster and smoother then the S5 will ever be. Yes the S5 can be debloated and is off course costumisable and is a good phone, the Nexus devices are the true tech/geek/nerd phones
fffft said:
Read more? .. so that you'll have a better idea of what would be best for you. Touchwiz (S5) and Nexus are almost antithetical UI experiences. So it's an odd comparison. If you strongly favour either one, then you'd be unlikely to really like the other one.
It's easy to debloat the S5 though. A simple search will find many threads on debloating the S5. But arguably the best way to proceed is to root your phone then install a custom ROM. A custom ROM is a ROM that is already debloated and optimized to run on your phone. Custom ROMs vary from basically 99.9% stock (just debloated) e.g. XtreStoLite. To ROMs that add a lot more customizations e.g. Phoenix or Alliance.
As to rooting, Towel root is the method most people prefer and it's basically just a click or two. Look for the prominent Towel root thread or you'll find links to it on most custom ROM threads. Note that Towel root only works on pre June 6th firmware builds. So if you have a very recent firmware you'd need to first write an older build of 4.4.2 firmware to your phone. Then root with Towelroot and flash a custom ROM.
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gee2012 said:
To be honest here as i had the Nexus 5, its fair to say that the Nexus 5 with for instance a custom kernel like Franco kernel is faster and smoother then the S5 will ever be. Yes the S5 can be debloated and is off course costumisable and is a good phone, the Nexus devices are the true tech/geek/nerd phones
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Thanks for the replies guys.
I have been looking at the Phoenix ROM. It looks promising. I will agree with Gee though, Nexus being the "most" tech/geek/nerd around device. Hmm. Maybe I'll just go get a 32GB Nexus 5. Just really want to leave team iPhone.
Again, thanks for the info guys.
Lottodaumas said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
I have been looking at the Phoenix ROM. It looks promising. I will agree with Gee though, Nexus being the "most" tech/geek/nerd around device. Hmm. Maybe I'll just go get a 32GB Nexus 5. Just really want to leave team iPhone.
Again, thanks for the info guys.
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Better wait for the Nexus 6 or X mate, its just around the corner I know i will.

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