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Hi,
The "ASUS Eee Pad Transformer" looks like a good tablet for me.
It's a netbook and a tablet in one computer.
But I don't like Android as a desktop OS, so I wonder if it was possible to install Ubuntu 11.04 or another Linux dist on the device with a functional touch screen?
The device has USB, right? So it must be possible to boot a Linux dist compiled for the architecture from a USB key?
It would be so nice!
In concept yes. Will it be a usable implementation? Probably not.
I would LOVE LOVE LOVE this thing to dual boot into Linux Mint.
My guess is that it would be theoretically possible to install Ubuntu 11.04 "Netbook" addition as it is aimed at ARM architecture. Tegra 2 apparently supports Ubuntu which should make this easier. The screen also has the perfect resolution to run Ubuntu as well.
11.04 is released Tomorrow right?
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They may only have preinstall images for TI chips. I've looked into the betas, and they have a compress partition that has to be uncompressed on the first boot. But the boot is in a fat32 partition with a kernel for the TI arm chip and uboot.
It should be possible.
Some work was done on getting Ubuntu up and running on a Toshiba AC100, which is a Tegra-2 based "smartbook" running Android (see here for details).
However, IMO a version of NVFlash that works on the Transformer will be required before this can be taken much further.
Regards,
Dave
louisdk said:
Hi,
But I don't like Android as a desktop OS,
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It's not a desktop OS. With the keyboard dock, it's still just a netbook. Netbooks aren't really supposed to be as 'functional' as desktops. If you want desktop functionality, get a desktop or a large laptop.
Netbooks and now tablets are what I refer to as 'compromise' devices. You compromise power and function for portability and convenience. If you need more than a tablet or netbook can provide, you need to be shopping bigger.
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It's not a desktop OS. With the keyboard dock, it's still just a netbook. Netbooks aren't really supposed to be as 'functional' as desktops. If you want desktop functionality, get a desktop or a large laptop.
Netbooks and now tablets are what I refer to as 'compromise' devices. You compromise power and function for portability and convenience. If you need more than a tablet or netbook can provide, you need to be shopping bigger.
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I know that netbooks ain't made for hardcore tasks like gaming, photo- or video editing, but I find Android (have only tried 2.x) too limited for netbook use.
On my current netbook I like a full Linux desktop, so I browse the web, check mails, use LibreOffice, use VLC and other light activities and I really can't way I shouldn't be allowed to get the real PC experience on a netbook if the hardware specs allows it? Especially when new user interfaces like Unity that is perfect for tablets and small screens have been released.
I've spotted this new device. I Think that the ARM-version of Ubuntu used on this device will be public avaible and I hope that it's possible to install it on the Asus Eee Transformer.
OMGUBUNTU UK /2011/05/meet-the-ubuntu-running-dual-core-arm-desktop-trim-slice/
louisdk said:
I've spotted this new device. I Think that the ARM-version of Ubuntu used on this device will be public avaible and I hope that it's possible to install it on the Asus Eee Transformer.
OMGUBUNTU UK /2011/05/meet-the-ubuntu-running-dual-core-arm-desktop-trim-slice/
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http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/meet-the-ubuntu-running-dual-core-arm-desktop-trim-slice/
since I can post links
//edit, getting an arm version of debian/ubuntu aint the issue. The issue is graphics. Now as I've posted earlier on this forum, nvidia has released linux4tegra. Although unsupported, it has a tegra_drv for xorg.
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
eviltuna said:
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
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If I can start up an app that connects to localhost and gives me access to everything from advanced networking/software development tools/image editing and conversion tools/movie editing/diagnostics/etc/etc/etc/etc. Why wouldn't I want to? I can have a device which instead of being locked to android apps also has a MASSIVE library of tools that's been developed over many many years.
And they are not designed for touchscreen, but guess what, this tablet has a keyboard and a touchpad
eviltuna said:
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
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So I can run an IDE and develop apps for honeycomb...
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Why not just develop an IDE for Android to use on an Android Tab? But I too would love to use the new Ubuntu 11.04 on the TF since Unity supports touch screens
eviltuna said:
I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook?
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I for one don't have and don't want a netbook or laptop. I prefer using one device (a tablet in this case with a keyboard or keyboard dock) for many purposes. It's cheaper for me and I have much less things to carry / charge / store etc.
hitman_dreams said:
Why not just develop an IDE for Android to use on an Android Tab?
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Eclipse is an IDE made by ibm, development started 2001, and it's still being developed today.
I dont think you realize what your saying when you say "just develop an IDE".
FrayAdjacent said:
It's not a desktop OS. With the keyboard dock, it's still just a netbook. Netbooks aren't really supposed to be as 'functional' as desktops. If you want desktop functionality, get a desktop or a large laptop.
Netbooks and now tablets are what I refer to as 'compromise' devices. You compromise power and function for portability and convenience. If you need more than a tablet or netbook can provide, you need to be shopping bigger.
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Not even! Check out the Samsung X120 ( I have one ) and the Acer Ferrari One 200 ( I have one of these too! )
Dual core+ netbooks have NO problems running full desktop applications at the same time as multi-tab browsing...
Running Microsoft Server 2008 or Windows 7.
I've run Adobe Premier rendering video at the same time as Office 2010 along with Chrome running 20 tabs and 3DS MAX 2011 open no lag..
The X120 has a 5 hour+ battery life too, the newer i3 and i5 and even i7 based Netbooks are no compromise on desktop performance.
I even have a HDMI out and VGA out on the X120...
Anyways, the sooner we get / make Android 3.0+ based tablets dual boot Ubuntu 11 the better... Then tablets can finally act as both development work horses and Android tabs...
Chris
eviltuna said:
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
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In a nut shell, imagine the portability of a tablet with the power of all the items with Ubuntu..years of apps and developement along with the ability to sit on "the THRONE" if you know what I mean.... the tablet is evolutionary for the fact it is just another device, I do not know if you use Ubuntu, if you do then a question is not why but when and how. Also, you have a option when / if / Ubuntu does come to the transformer, don't use it. Great development does not happen by asking why it should, great development comes by asking why the hell not. Just my 2 cents worth.'
Of interest ....http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/...e-arm-cluster-server-box-for-ubuntu-20110613/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188568
I would be interested in seeing Meego in action on a tablet.
What is Meego?
Meego is a linux based OS that uses the Qt framework (C++) for the UI. There is already a lot of apps that are compatible with the platform.
Now THIS I can totally dig. I was eager for it on the Desire Z, and maybe on my Inspire 4g, but DEFINITELY would love this on a tablet. Praying that some of the super talented devs hop on this.
this would indeed be very cool, i would be willing to part with some cash to whomever can get this working
Just curious, this is the same as the new Nokia N9 is getting right? The OS that's designed around 3 screens, and looks totally awesome?! If it is, here's a better look at it.
I hope so, I think the TF would run this incredibly and it would just be pure win. The Nokia N9 only has a 1GHz (i think) single core, and the TF has a dual core, which is easily clocked to 1.7 GHz. I really hope this can happen.
A little off topic, but MeeGo sounds a lot like a UI that was posted in the Android section, but was dropped because the developers couldn't get around a few bumps. I think it was called Kite UI or something like that..
Myriad Alien Dalvik for Meego
Run Android apps on Meego
SwiftLegend said:
Just curious, this is the same as the new Nokia N9 is getting right? The OS that's designed around 3 screens, and looks totally awesome?! If it is, here's a better look at it.
I hope so, I think the TF would run this incredibly and it would just be pure win. The Nokia N9 only has a 1GHz (i think) single core, and the TF has a dual core, which is easily clocked to 1.7 GHz. I really hope this can happen.
A little off topic, but MeeGo sounds a lot like a UI that was posted in the Android section, but was dropped because the developers couldn't get around a few bumps. I think it was called Kite UI or something like that..
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N9 has a custom user interface. It doesn't even run standard Meego, from what I remember. Standard Meego UI doesn't look as nice as n9's UI. Also, n9 has a smaller screen and resolution, so it probably won't look good on 10 in screen.
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N9 has a custom user interface. It doesn't even run standard Meego, from what I remember. Standard Meego UI doesn't look as nice as n9's UI. Also, n9 has a smaller screen and resolution, so it probably won't look good on 10 in screen.
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Dang, I'm really liking the N9. It's a really nice looking phone and a sleek OS. Too bad Verizon and Nokia don't play nice.
Thanks for the news, but the title of the post is bit confusing, don't you think ? From what I understood, nVidia released a set of drivers for a mini PC product called trimslice (running ubuntu ??), which also happens to have a Mego port (which can benefit from those drivers) . But they didn’t release it for the transformer, nor there is any mego port for the transformer, so this release has nothing to do with the transformer.... (as the title suggest )
Yaaay! I just wish I had more time to try and make Gentoo run... To all "We have ubuntu now" people:
1) The current Ubuntu image doesn't have these drivers
2) These drivers aren't guaranteed work with Ubuntu's patched kernel
3) I don't like Ubuntu
too bad they arent for the tramsformer i would have loved to try meego. i heard good thing about it
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K900 said:
Yaaay! I just wish I had more time to try and make Gentoo run... To all "We have ubuntu now" people:
1) The current Ubuntu image doesn't have these drivers
2) These drivers aren't guaranteed work with Ubuntu's patched kernel
3) I don't like Ubuntu
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+1 I totally think a slimmed down and customized distro like Gentoo would be great for the transformer.
brando56894 said:
+1 I totally think a slimmed down and customized distro like Gentoo would be great for the transformer.
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I would question the concept of a slim full functional gentoo release on an processor like this. While there are likely enough binaries to get you by, the concept of the compile your own distribution with special optimizations would make it difficult to do against the transformer. Been a while since I was using gentoo so maybe there is a full functional small installation model now but not sure how well it would work for a tablet.
The Meego OS
The Meego OS has been around a while and is an established companion on all the major brand netbooks/laptops/tablets as an instant on option as it boots in around 5 seconds under the guise of Splashtop OS. you can download meego/splashtop at any time from the website and there is an sku for almost anything even tablets, i run splashtop as a dual boot with win7 for when i just fancy listening to music or surfing the web. Just google meego or Splashtop
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OK so it this ready or being ported to the transformer? I order me a Transformer yesterday and would love Meego/xbmc on this thing.. i have meego/xbmc on my netbook but on a tablet would be KILLER..
Does anybody know of a list or site that lists existing tablets that have had Windows 8 running on them.
Or if you have a Windows tablet now and have tried the dev preview what has been your experience?
I ask because I'm hoping to invest in a decent Windows base tablet for purposes of upgrading to Windows 8 instead of buying a "certified" overpriced tablet. Hopefully we will see manufacturers releasing better drivers for existing devices if they are needed aswell.
wetab
i have installed win 8 on My wetab and It runs pretty well. It has Somme hickups Bud i think thats more to win8 not being completely ready For release.
I have the Lenovo S10-3t Netbook with the monitor that swings around and turns it into a tablet... It runs awesome on this thing.
If you want a good slate you should look into the Samsung Series 7 slate. It has been reviewed as one of the best windows slates. Unfortunately for pricing it is not that great it starts at $1099 and goes to $1399.
I ordered a Dell st2220t touch screen display a while back in anticipation of a beta (I know this isn't a beta but close enough). Hooked it up to a cheap dual core ATOM/ION2 nettop and it runs really great. Wished there were more apps to test out and really live in the touch environment but it works very well. It kind of sucks not to have flash in the metro browser but I won't be surprised if Chrome 100.0 (or whatever version Google has out by release) gets turned into a alternative touch metro browser with Flash support baked in.
Altogether I think it was a pretty cheap experiment and well worth it: $230 for the monitor which was a steal BTW (1080p, touch AND freaking IPS) plus $220 for the nettop.
Ever think the Galaxy 10.1 will accommodate it? I would rather W8 than HC at the moment
I have a HP Touchsmart tm2t tablet and win8 runs extremely well on it, the capacitive multitouch screen works like it should with win8 and I've really been enjoying it so far. I put in a different HDD so i can switch between win8 and win7 just to play/test win8 when i want to.
corey457 said:
If you want a good slate you should look into the Samsung Series 7 slate. It has been reviewed as one of the best windows slates. Unfortunately for pricing it is not that great it starts at $1099 and goes to $1399.
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still far far far cheaper than a dell xt3, hp 2760p, Lenovo x220t for the power provided by the convertible
The difference between the current crop of slates and Microsoft slates/convertibles is that they're not toys. In that the tablet/convertible can stand in as a computer or a main PC
So what is being sought as a price isn't all that bad
That said I've tried on a hp 2740p, dell xt2, hp tm2, and Lenovo x220t. The installation is flawless and really extends the life of the dell xt2 and hp tm2, which are extremely old in comparison to the others I mentioned.
I was thinking that after playing with Windows 8 for so long on a convertible its hard to go to an ipad2, android tablet, hp touchpad because the experience and speed is just incredible. Even on the hp tm2, which is somewhere along 4 years old and it works extremely fast.
It works just fine on Iconia W500.
How did you get it on?? To the iconia
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How did you get it on?? To the iconia
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Iconia W500 is a slate running windows 7, just load it off an SD card and install... Did you think he loaded it on a Iconia A500, the A is for android so windows 8 current build wouldn't run on it...
W500 is available for a great price though, really thinking about it...
I have a Dell Inspiron Duo, and the dev preview runs really well. The performance is definitely smoother and faster than win7 on this device, which is very impressive!
The only issues I have so far are that windows 8 doesn't detect the accelerometer and compass in my device, let alone provide drivers. Although, this is a very early release to get developers used to the metro UI so its not really a problem as they'll probably be in the full release.
Secondly is that Microsoft office brings up compatibility errors and won't install (making do with the very capable open office suite) this will obviously be fixed though.
The one other niggle being with hardware not software. I wish Dell had put some volume hardware keys and a physical start button on the sides of the screen rather than having to open up to the keyboard each time I want to use them. (So this is really just my personal preference)
That being said, you can just swipe in from the right of the screen to bring up a start button and volume/ brightness settings among others.
So as far as upgrading win7 hardware, at the moment I would say nothing would really be stopping you. I would wait to see how windows 8 matures up to release before making a decision however.
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Iconia W500 is a slate running windows 7, just load it off an SD card and install... Did you think he loaded it on a Iconia A500, the A is for android so windows 8 current build wouldn't run on it...
W500 is available for a great price though, really thinking about it...
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Sorry yes, i just saw iconia and hit reply would love the galaxy 10.1 to run it, looks good
I have an ASUS Ep-121 with Windows 8 loaded on it. It runs flawlessly. Better than it did with Windows 7 anyway.
I have been running WDP8 on my HP Slate with eveything working fine.
All the drivers installed fine as well.
Have had a couple of BSODs in two days, mostly when waking from sleep.
The automatic orientation rotation is super fast at least ten times faster and smoother than Win 7 !!
Overall a very good experience......
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Yep, Win8 on a Slate runs so far better than Win7 it's like the Tablet goes to warp speed! (W500) If fact I had a little trouble initially using win8 after installation because I was dragging my fingers sooo hard on the screen in order to enable a touch command, which didn't work! Turns out the touch is sooo sensitive you just need to brush your finger across the screen in order to access the Charms, Tabs, and switches!
Buttery smooth!
Posting from a W500 on Windows 8 right now, Windows 8 is absolutely made for it. That said, the metro browser is the only useful metro app and it's completely unstable.... but very snappy when it works. Since this is such an early version I have high hopes.
Side note: has anyone gotten the accelerometer working in 64-bit? Acer doesn't provide drivers and the manufacturer (Bosch) doesn't seem to either.
Had some issues with Accelerometer myself, although it was on the 32bit version.
You can try these options, however if it doesnt't work then you'll need to revert/re-install the 32bit version.
First, see if the bosch drivers install for 64bit, if they do then you can procede if they don' t then you won't have a functional G-sensor for 64bit.
Secondly, if the above works, you need to install the Acer ATI graphics driver (d/l from acer site, also the Application HID driver & Device Control won't hurt either)
After installation (and restart, yay!) Open the AMD Vision Engine Control Center program from the program list, it will tell you there is a compatibility conflict and do you wish to revert to .Net 3.5.1 (or whatever), Select yes. It will then download this driver from the net, and after installation: Voila!
(Of course you could just go into Windows Resources and revert to the aformentioned drivers, but the above was just to make sure )
Hope that works for you!
THis might help:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393329,00.asp
I ordered one of those even before this report came out. I will try it out and let you know how it goes!
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So, if we have control over the boot rom of the Fire, would it be possible to boot a linux desktop image?
Running CM7 on my Fire, works and looks awesome
Also, Amazon Prime video works great inside my browser with Root
I would like this as well. I know you can run it inside a virtual machine though.
https://www.linux.com/news/software...oid-drivers-to-be-included-in-linux-33-kernel
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There are OMAP4 Ubuntu images available for both 11.04 and 11.10.
Obviously that's no substitute for the built-in kernel level stuff but at least there's some progress on that front already.
I'm finding Android to be quite limiting as it's still basically a phone OS that has only fairly recently been built for tablets. It isn't bad by any sense of the term but when Ubuntu is out there with touchscreen support for both desktops and netbooks it sure would be nice to have on the Kindle Fire.
So many of the Android versions of applications are very limited when compared to their desktop/netbook counterparts and given the specs of tablets these days they can at least rival netbooks.
Not directly related to Transformer, but very good news for us.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQozs5tXxwY
Summary: It's ubuntu desktop experience using android's kernel that runs side by side with android. We can already boot ubuntu on our tablets, but this, from what I understand, will be able to benefit from all drivers. So, everything should work.
As long as they do better than chroot+vnc, I would consider this.
My PC blows away these devices for raw compiling power but versus e.g. an Atom netbook, heck yeah. Only thing better than what I've got with my Transformer, would be an Ultrabook with a touch screen.
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Prkblem is, it will be directly incoporated into rom, not something publicly available
knowing conical they will very likely release it as open source but it would be almost impossible to get it working without their knowledge and huge team