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Official Honeycomb/Android 3.0 Preview + MotoXoom

Just found this, looks new, thought I'd share,.....

Looks interesting but it said "build entirely for tablet". Apparently, we won't see this version on our phones. Maybe they have a mobile version.. well of course they will but I hope it's not striped down too much. Gingerbread was a ui disaster... ugly as sin, imo

Only for tablets? Don't care.

Even with gods like TeamDouche on the case?
Fingers crossed. I'll be looking at purchasing a tablet in the next 6 - 9 months anyway I reckon.

wileykat said:
Even with gods like TeamDouche on the case?
Fingers crossed. I'll be looking at purchasing a tablet in the next 6 - 9 months anyway I reckon.
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Well the UI would be horribad on a tiny phone screen, so it really has no purpose to me. I wish Google would just branch the OS completely into Android for phones and Android for tablets instead of making 3.0 "exclusive."

If those videos are genuine renders, then it looks like they've fixed surface flinger to use OGL rather than FB.
Note that this video looks a lot more like ChromeOS than Android. Android 3.0 itself will NOT be restricted to tablets, but possibly some UI elements will be available (i.e. optional) to improve the utility on tablets. Android 2.x would NOT be suitable for a tablet.
What I see is a more conventional taskbar for multiple open programs... and a windowing manager. These are definitely things that can be added *on top* of the existing android.... i.e., on phones, use the long-click-home, on tablets, stick them in the bar up top (since you have the space for it and it is more intuitive). Combined with a more suitable launcher and a windowing manager, and you have a winner.
I suspect that their "exclusively for tablets" line relates to the preview itself, which is to highlight the tablet-specific features.

Dig deeper and you will find Honeycomb will be adjusted to fit phones also...

TheBiles said:
Well the UI would be horribad on a tiny phone screen, so it really has no purpose to me. I wish Google would just branch the OS completely into Android for phones and Android for tablets instead of making 3.0 "exclusive."
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Maybe 4.0 r exclusive for android phones.. LoL
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jeffokada81 said:
Dig deeper and you will find Honeycomb will be adjusted to fit phones also...
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Had a quick search earlier whilst having my breakfast,.... only thing I could find was AbodeAir benchmarks off a N1 running 3.0. Fingers crossed still.

I suspect the "Build entirely for tablets" thing is just a bit badly worded/misleading.
The video is clearly aimed to show all the cool stuff they've done for tablet support (they really should have waited for 3.0 before releasing some of the rubbish Android tablets that are out there), and I'm sure there will be some specific 3.0 stuff for phones too, as others have said.

[Q] Installing Ubuntu 11.04 or other Linux dist on the device?

Hi,
The "ASUS Eee Pad Transformer" looks like a good tablet for me.
It's a netbook and a tablet in one computer.
But I don't like Android as a desktop OS, so I wonder if it was possible to install Ubuntu 11.04 or another Linux dist on the device with a functional touch screen?
The device has USB, right? So it must be possible to boot a Linux dist compiled for the architecture from a USB key?
It would be so nice!

In concept yes. Will it be a usable implementation? Probably not.

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE this thing to dual boot into Linux Mint.

My guess is that it would be theoretically possible to install Ubuntu 11.04 "Netbook" addition as it is aimed at ARM architecture. Tegra 2 apparently supports Ubuntu which should make this easier. The screen also has the perfect resolution to run Ubuntu as well.

11.04 is released Tomorrow right?
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They may only have preinstall images for TI chips. I've looked into the betas, and they have a compress partition that has to be uncompressed on the first boot. But the boot is in a fat32 partition with a kernel for the TI arm chip and uboot.

It should be possible.
Some work was done on getting Ubuntu up and running on a Toshiba AC100, which is a Tegra-2 based "smartbook" running Android (see here for details).
However, IMO a version of NVFlash that works on the Transformer will be required before this can be taken much further.
Regards,
Dave

louisdk said:
Hi,
But I don't like Android as a desktop OS,
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It's not a desktop OS. With the keyboard dock, it's still just a netbook. Netbooks aren't really supposed to be as 'functional' as desktops. If you want desktop functionality, get a desktop or a large laptop.
Netbooks and now tablets are what I refer to as 'compromise' devices. You compromise power and function for portability and convenience. If you need more than a tablet or netbook can provide, you need to be shopping bigger.

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It's not a desktop OS. With the keyboard dock, it's still just a netbook. Netbooks aren't really supposed to be as 'functional' as desktops. If you want desktop functionality, get a desktop or a large laptop.
Netbooks and now tablets are what I refer to as 'compromise' devices. You compromise power and function for portability and convenience. If you need more than a tablet or netbook can provide, you need to be shopping bigger.
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I know that netbooks ain't made for hardcore tasks like gaming, photo- or video editing, but I find Android (have only tried 2.x) too limited for netbook use.
On my current netbook I like a full Linux desktop, so I browse the web, check mails, use LibreOffice, use VLC and other light activities and I really can't way I shouldn't be allowed to get the real PC experience on a netbook if the hardware specs allows it? Especially when new user interfaces like Unity that is perfect for tablets and small screens have been released.

I've spotted this new device. I Think that the ARM-version of Ubuntu used on this device will be public avaible and I hope that it's possible to install it on the Asus Eee Transformer.
OMGUBUNTU UK /2011/05/meet-the-ubuntu-running-dual-core-arm-desktop-trim-slice/

louisdk said:
I've spotted this new device. I Think that the ARM-version of Ubuntu used on this device will be public avaible and I hope that it's possible to install it on the Asus Eee Transformer.
OMGUBUNTU UK /2011/05/meet-the-ubuntu-running-dual-core-arm-desktop-trim-slice/
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http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/meet-the-ubuntu-running-dual-core-arm-desktop-trim-slice/
since I can post links
//edit, getting an arm version of debian/ubuntu aint the issue. The issue is graphics. Now as I've posted earlier on this forum, nvidia has released linux4tegra. Although unsupported, it has a tegra_drv for xorg.

Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?

eviltuna said:
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
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If I can start up an app that connects to localhost and gives me access to everything from advanced networking/software development tools/image editing and conversion tools/movie editing/diagnostics/etc/etc/etc/etc. Why wouldn't I want to? I can have a device which instead of being locked to android apps also has a MASSIVE library of tools that's been developed over many many years.
And they are not designed for touchscreen, but guess what, this tablet has a keyboard and a touchpad

eviltuna said:
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
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So I can run an IDE and develop apps for honeycomb...
Sent from my Asus Decepticon using Tapatalk

Why not just develop an IDE for Android to use on an Android Tab? But I too would love to use the new Ubuntu 11.04 on the TF since Unity supports touch screens

eviltuna said:
I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook?
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I for one don't have and don't want a netbook or laptop. I prefer using one device (a tablet in this case with a keyboard or keyboard dock) for many purposes. It's cheaper for me and I have much less things to carry / charge / store etc.

hitman_dreams said:
Why not just develop an IDE for Android to use on an Android Tab?
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Eclipse is an IDE made by ibm, development started 2001, and it's still being developed today.
I dont think you realize what your saying when you say "just develop an IDE".

FrayAdjacent said:
It's not a desktop OS. With the keyboard dock, it's still just a netbook. Netbooks aren't really supposed to be as 'functional' as desktops. If you want desktop functionality, get a desktop or a large laptop.
Netbooks and now tablets are what I refer to as 'compromise' devices. You compromise power and function for portability and convenience. If you need more than a tablet or netbook can provide, you need to be shopping bigger.
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Not even! Check out the Samsung X120 ( I have one ) and the Acer Ferrari One 200 ( I have one of these too! )
Dual core+ netbooks have NO problems running full desktop applications at the same time as multi-tab browsing...
Running Microsoft Server 2008 or Windows 7.
I've run Adobe Premier rendering video at the same time as Office 2010 along with Chrome running 20 tabs and 3DS MAX 2011 open no lag..
The X120 has a 5 hour+ battery life too, the newer i3 and i5 and even i7 based Netbooks are no compromise on desktop performance.
I even have a HDMI out and VGA out on the X120...
Anyways, the sooner we get / make Android 3.0+ based tablets dual boot Ubuntu 11 the better... Then tablets can finally act as both development work horses and Android tabs...
Chris

eviltuna said:
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
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In a nut shell, imagine the portability of a tablet with the power of all the items with Ubuntu..years of apps and developement along with the ability to sit on "the THRONE" if you know what I mean.... the tablet is evolutionary for the fact it is just another device, I do not know if you use Ubuntu, if you do then a question is not why but when and how. Also, you have a option when / if / Ubuntu does come to the transformer, don't use it. Great development does not happen by asking why it should, great development comes by asking why the hell not. Just my 2 cents worth.'

Of interest ....http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/...e-arm-cluster-server-box-for-ubuntu-20110613/

Windows 8 Build 81xx

I was wondering if any of the developers here have been following the Windows 8 stuff? I just read and article that they are going to release the first build of it this week at the big Microsoft thingy thats going on. They are releasing the build to developers, AND to the public!
Now, since Win 8 will be ARM supported, I'm wondering if were going to be able to put it on our A500's. I had originally wanted to buy a W500, but when your buying off craigslist you get what you find, and i love my A500 plenty fine, but i've always liked playing with the new Windows versions coming out, and the OS is pretty much designed for touch and tablet.
I know i'll be keeping my eyes open one way or another and hitting download as soon as i see they open a beta build up for us.

I don't think our A500's will be supported by MS, but since there aren't any quad-core tablets out there yet (production-wise, that I know of), MS will probably be using the tegra 2, which means it should be at least compatible.
So, it should hopefully run, but I think it's going to require a bit of hacking.

I really doubt that it will run on our a500's for one reason, hard drive space! Look up windows 8 demo on you tube and you will see that it is very similar to windows 7, just with a tablet friendly ui. You can still access good old windows with the touch of a button. I do have to admit that its looks pretty slick.

If you read into things, windows 8 is supposed to be -very- small operating wise, it's designed to gear towards tablet interfaces, it is able to run off of a flash drive.

I think our Acer Iconia will be one of the better suitors of Windows 8 thanks to its USB port. I would love to have Windows 8 ported on my Acer, especially if they are giving the build to the public.

kd75 said:
I really doubt that it will run on our a500's for one reason, hard drive space! Look up windows 8 demo on you tube and you will see that it is very similar to windows 7, just with a tablet friendly ui. You can still access good old windows with the touch of a button. I do have to admit that its looks pretty slick.
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Windows 7 only takes like 10GB fresh, with a good compression, or just a 32GB SD card for more space, it'd run just fine. Space isn't an issue.

They are, the BUILD conference is at 9am today, and they are supposed to release it to public and developers at it today.

I'll still love to see it runs on a quad core thing, with the ability to turn down part of the processor or dramatically turn down the clock when running on battery to save power.
I used this A500 long enough to realize that Android is just a toy. To be serious, it has a long way to go. It is so convenient to use for before nap browsing, that I don't turn on my laptop at night after all, but if you tell me I only have this for the week, I'll just say no. Better to bring both with me. Windows 7 is essential for me.

ctiger said:
I'll still love to see it runs on a quad core thing, with the ability to turn down part of the processor or dramatically turn down the clock when running on battery to save power.
I used this A500 long enough to realize that Android is just a toy. To be serious, it has a long way to go. It is so convenient to use for before nap browsing, that I don't turn on my laptop at night after all, but if you tell me I only have this for the week, I'll just say no. Better to bring both with me. Windows 7 is essential for me.
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From a day-to-day use stand point, this just isn't true. However, if you need a power house, then I agree with you. But getting this tablet was one of the reasons for getting rid of my netbook. Outside of heavy gaming, which I don't do anyways, I do not see anything I can do on the netbook that I couldn't do on the tablet for everyday functions (except print, but I almost never do that either lol)

I got rid of my laptop (Was going out anyway) And got the a500 instead of another laptop. So far im pleased, i wished Skype would get working, i'd use it a lot more. I have a pretty nice powerhouse for a desktop so for anything that i need to do with some real power, gaming and such, i can sit at it for without a problem.
Id love to get a microsoft arc keyboard or something, small enough to use on my iconia, cause right now, since i have a laptop stand still, i use a old apple keyboard via the USB, its easier for typing more after all.
I'd like to see windows 8 on it, simply to see what i could do with it, i like toying with it, my A500 is my toy, rather than a significant use item, i can do what i need on it, so it serves its purpose, but it was still more a toy then anything else when i got it.

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From a day-to-day use stand point, this just isn't true. However, if you need a power house, then I agree with you. But getting this tablet was one of the reasons for getting rid of my netbook. Outside of heavy gaming, which I don't do anyways, I do not see anything I can do on the netbook that I couldn't do on the tablet for everyday functions (except print, but I almost never do that either lol)
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The one thing missing for me is the ability to develop android applications on the iconia. It's funny that you need another OS to code for Android.
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Well unfortunately the builds thate came out were only on desktop uses, not for the ARM processor, guess was cross our fingers and wait.

Just like WP7 is limited to certain chipsets, I believe the ARM version might only be limited to Tegra 3 and some other faster processors.

I read somewhere from ms that win8 arm will run on many chips.as well as tegra. But not sure where this article went.I do know it was direct from Microsoft.
Here is the link to information
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516

Preview of Win 8 tablets. Acer's is running on an AMD chip, not a Tegra:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4811/windows-8-tablets-running-on-ti-qualcomm-nvidia-amd-intel-silicon

tkolev said:
The one thing missing for me is the ability to develop android applications on the iconia. It's funny that you need another OS to code for Android.
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Regardless of OS, if your day-to-day function is coding/dev work, I would imagine you wouldn't be doing it from a tablet anyways Thats like a mechanic trying to run a full garage with a 25 piece "mechanics" tool set from Walmart lol. I am a project manager and I couldn't imagine not having a full laptop to do what I need it to do. I do also have a PC at home, hooked to my TV. But if I was not running an IIS server or if I didn't do web design work, I would probably not have anything else at home but a tablet.

fermunky said:
Regardless of OS, if your day-to-day function is coding/dev work, I would imagine you wouldn't be doing it from a tablet anyways Thats like a mechanic trying to run a full garage with a 25 piece "mechanics" tool set from Walmart lol. I am a project manager and I couldn't imagine not having a full laptop to do what I need it to do. I do also have a PC at home, hooked to my TV. But if I was not running an IIS server or if I didn't do web design work, I would probably not have anything else at home but a tablet.
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Well that's the only thing I'm still doing on my laptop since I got the tablet. Would be nice if I had the chance of doing it with the tablet too and not bring both when going on trips.
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kjy2010 said:
Preview of Win 8 tablets. Acer's is running on an AMD chip, not a Tegra:
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That's not our tablet. That's the Acer Iconia Tab W500 not the A500. The A500 runs NVIDIA Tegra 2.
In any case, i'm still really hopeful for getting Win 8 onto the A500. With the ARM support, there has to be a way that this can be done eventually. I was actually starting to think that I might have to sell my Iconia and get a new tablet in March when its released. But now only time will tell. But just the possibility of running Windows here is awesome. =D

stefan2305 said:
That's not our tablet. That's the Acer Iconia Tab W500 not the A500. The A500 runs NVIDIA Tegra 2
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No schiznit really?!
Here I thought my tablet had an Atom processor in it!

Well here is a small update. It does not help us Iconia A500 people, but it does help people with other tablets! And puts out hope that if Microsoft delivers a preview for the ARM version of the OS we may be able to test it out some.
Here is the link to the article showing how to install the developer preview of Win 8 on a Win 7 running tablet.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-build-your-own-windows-8-tablet-using-existing-hardware/

[Q] Android 4.0 and HD2 - Any future ?

With Android 4.0 release today. Im raising the question. Is there any future and posibility of Droid 4.0 on HTC HD2 - Is Hardware of HD2 even capable of handle this system ?

I've been wondering about the same thing myself. After playing with the Samsung Galaxy S2 I decided that it's nice, but the advantages are not great enough for me to justify the expense. Looks like the hardware of the new Nexus phone will be a slightly upgraded S2, so at the end of the day it is all down to software.
Right now it's probably a bit early to say, but I'd expect the OS itself should run on the HD2 hardware. Experience might be smoother on higher end phones though. Then again, new high end devices will start getting 720p displays and compared to the decent, but dated by now, 800x480 display that will be a big increase when it comes to pixels rendered. So you will be getting faster hardware, but the beautiful display will probably eat into that processing power a bit.
If tytung and others can port stock ICS to the HD2 then I can probably make it last long enough until they release the S3 or whatever equivalent HTC superphone (though considering HTC's track record over the past few months they really need to get their act together, but that's a separate conversation).
Then again, we've seen very little of the stuff that ICS can do. I have no clue how much of an improvement it will be over 2.3.5. I hope it will be awesome, but I guess I'll find out in approximately 90 minutes

Nil3E said:
With Android 4.0 release today. Im raising the question. Is there any future and posibility of Droid 4.0 on HTC HD2 - Is Hardware of HD2 even capable of handle this system ?
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Are you kidding? lol Our superphone has been able to run pretty much anything including the kitchen sink.
It's just a matter of time for the rom to be ported to the HD2

The geniuses we have cooking here can do anything but solve third world poverty and debt.
I reckon the big question should be How soon do you reckon there will be a development thread with ICS rom as the title.

Just finished watching the liveblog and I'm reading through updates on engadget and thisismynext.
Phone itself looks pretty sweet, but I guess that is off topic... so ICS.
First impression really good, though I have to wait to see some more hands on to form a more informed opinion. Though from an HD2 stand point there are a few things I am worried about:
1) face recognition unlock, personally I think it's a gimmick and I am almost 100% sure this can be disabled; the demo failure was pretty bad as well; but I wonder whether Google will include a new set of hardware requirements in the same way that Windows Phone 7 does; and if they do, to what extent can they be bypassed
2) no word on compatibility or updates with older devices; this was an event held to push the new OS and new Samsung made phone so naturally they would focus on this, but still I am a bit worried that Google might decide that they will only allow the OS to exist on new hardware and will somehow put restrictions that will be very hard to ignore. Then again I am writing this 10 minutes after the keynote has finished, while I'm waiting for the first hands-on updates so possibly this might not even be an issue 10 minutes from now I guess they were talking about integrating the software and hardware so tightly (and some of the new features look like they really take the advantage of 720p res) that I'm worried that the OS running on a single core 800x480 device will look a bit rubbish. Ah, and they mentioned 720p as the native res for ICS. I'm guessing other resolutions will be available since it's impossible google will just assume that even lower end smartphones will have 720p screen, but I'm a bit worried how the UI elements will interact with a lower res display.
Oh well. Time will tell.
Overall I'm pretty chuffed. As usual there are a few new/polished features which I don't care about (face unlock, dictating texts, most of the camera improvements since I'm not that much into photo taking) and some stuff which they are missing. The big one being facebook. They said that any social network can use their API so hopefully that means some tighter integration at OS level, but time will tell. They are trying to push g+ obviously and I like it way more than fb, especially when it comes to mobile, but at the end of the day I'll always end up where most of my non-geek friends are. One other trend which has being gaining traction is the proliferation of profile photos, qhich can be very nice and make the UI come to life. But in my experience, quite often people won't have profile pics, because they haven't posted one or the contact exists just as a gmail address/phone number and isn't linked to any social network. That and most people put profile pics which are rubbish thumbnails that will look like a turd once you blow them up on a 4.3-4.65 screen which will suddenly look much less cool.
Anyway. These are VERY early impressions and are mostly positive. I hope there won't be many problems with porting this to the HD2. And if there are then I guess 2-2.5 years of valiant service is not a bad run.

We should be getting it. http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/google-confirms-nexus-s-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich-for-real/
Theoretically it should run on any Android 2.3 device.

Direct from Engadget :-
<We've just heard straight from Google's Gabe Cohen that the Nexus S will definitely be getting ICS. In fact, both he and Matias Duarte think most Gingerbread devices will see an upgrade, saying: Currently in the process for releasing Ice Cream Sandwich for Nexus S. Theoretically should work for any 2.3 device.>
So it should be fine

Hell Yes!! I guess there is still a difference between "run" and "run well" - iOS4 on iPhone 3G anyone? - but I'm really looking forward to it. This is awesome news. If they are rolling out ICS to the Nexus S then we might even see a usable ROM before the Galaxy Nexus hits retail.

Honestly, I don't think Google would release an OS that would run only on dual core devices, while they are still far from being top sellers. There are way more single-core devices out there...
Beside, while dual core devices are obviously faster (I have a Tab 10.1 myself)...that's pretty much it ! Games will run smoother but not the OS itself. You don't feel the dual core is fully used.
I guess that things will get trickier for our HD2 at the end of 2012 when dual core will be more implemented.
So sit back and wait for AOSP/CM9.

Looks like the SDK and the G-Nex system dump are both out...
Hope we see a ROM for the HD2 soon!

Nil3E said:
With Android 4.0 release today. Im raising the question. Is there any future and posibility of Droid 4.0 on HTC HD2 - Is Hardware of HD2 even capable of handle this system ?
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ICS has no new hardware requirements so doesnt matter how old the device is, if it was capable to run gingerbread than your good for ICS
Carriers won’t have to use nasty schemes to make people buy a new phone either, i wonder what their marketing trick for devices with ICS will be.
That Google wouldnt release an OS that would run only on dual core devices is also true, and dual core support doesnt even mean your device will run better, it just handles multitasking better.
(My old 3.2ghz dual core laptop runs faster than my new 2.0ghz quad core )

Just see and hope

hope i can try!

hope that cooming soon, how about NexusHD2-Ice Cream Sandwich rom by tytung ^^ lol

i hope ics can be ported for our hd2

The only thing that most certainly will not work is the face unlock feature. Although even then they might make it use the back camera .
Add to that the 1080p recording and those are the only things I don't see ever working on our beloved hd2.
Fortunately, it's android 4.0 and they still didn't iron out our phone. ICS will be possible on hd2. Hope it sees even 5.0 and onwards.

youtube.com/watch?v=5QHhFR-puEo Android 4.0 in HD2? YEAA

braspl said:
youtube.com/watch?v=5QHhFR-puEo Android 4.0 in HD2? YEAA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE93OdYnkrA (tutorial on how to do it?)

nemuro said:
The only thing that most certainly will not work is the face unlock feature. Although even then they might make it use the back camera .
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I'm fairly sure CM9 will come up with a back camera work around...

I have to admit i was wondering myself if ICS would run on our HD2 after hearing that the coding in ICS was built for dual core.. but the devs here and the hd2 can conquer anything.. even android Jello, kitkat, licorise, and muffin lol jk

Ubuntu for android

Not directly related to Transformer, but very good news for us.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQozs5tXxwY
Summary: It's ubuntu desktop experience using android's kernel that runs side by side with android. We can already boot ubuntu on our tablets, but this, from what I understand, will be able to benefit from all drivers. So, everything should work.

As long as they do better than chroot+vnc, I would consider this.
My PC blows away these devices for raw compiling power but versus e.g. an Atom netbook, heck yeah. Only thing better than what I've got with my Transformer, would be an Ultrabook with a touch screen.
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Prkblem is, it will be directly incoporated into rom, not something publicly available

knowing conical they will very likely release it as open source but it would be almost impossible to get it working without their knowledge and huge team