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Overclocking

Can over clocking the phone can burn or cause damage to the hardware except excess battery usage and does overclock an 1ghz processor to 1.5 will really give a boost or its just a gimmick
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Excessive overclocking really did damage your hardware, depends on the quality.. Overclocking from 1.0ghz to 1.5ghz really give a performance boost, in benchmarking.. In real life, only noticeable in process hungry apps, such as 3d games.. Gimmick? Well, if its a gimmick, it won't give any sudden resets or lock ups.. The processor have a safety switch if the temperature increase because of oc'ing.. If it's to hardcore, for example, 1.0Ghz to 1.8Ghz or even 2.0Ghz, for sure you processor will overheat and lock ups.
Well, mine running at 1.5Ghz, no lock ups or whatever..

SAPPH1RE said:
Excessive overclocking really did damage your hardware, depends on the quality.. Overclocking from 1.0ghz to 1.5ghz really give a performance boost, in benchmarking.. In real life, only noticeable in process hungry apps, such as 3d games.. Gimmick? Well, if its a gimmick, it won't give any sudden resets or lock ups.. The processor have a safety switch if the temperature increase because of oc'ing.. If it's to hardcore, for example, 1.0Ghz to 1.8Ghz or even 2.0Ghz, for sure you processor will overheat and lock ups.
Well, mine running at 1.5Ghz, no lock ups or whatever..
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My phone is running quite happily on 1.84Ghz.No lock ups or overheating.

ttav said:
My phone is running quite happily on 1.84Ghz.No lock ups or overheating.
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Good for you though.. Mine can only be stable at 1.7Ghz.. At 1.8Ghz, only about couple of mins gaming, and then hang till forever..

niks_5in said:
Can over clocking the phone can burn or cause damage to the hardware except excess battery usage and does overclock an 1ghz processor to 1.5 will really give a boost or its just a gimmick
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You will barely notice the difference in most circumstances. Even if your phone runs fine at 1.5 or 1.8 ghz it will probably reduce the life of the chip over a prolonged period.
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I think it will give minor boost at the cost of burning your hardware
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it will help in cpu intensive tasks, that which require lots of calculations, math stuff, 3d drawing done via cpu, faster cpu, better...
in other tasks, don't even bother, there are lots of other things far slower then cpu.
downside, heating, battery drain, increased rate of damage..!

Im using SetCPU for saving battery life. Set the cpu for 384 while screen is off. Noticed quite a difference.

OP, your asking if a overclocked cpu will give a better performance or if it's a gimmick? Really??
Of course it will give you better performance, that goes without saying but the question is, are you willing to sacrifice battery life? The chip will most probably last for years and years if overclocked but 1 thing that kills chips is heat and volts.
I only overclock when I need to and when I'm done I go back to how it was, usually.

My phone is fast enough at 1GHz, dont need overclocking, all games and apps goes fine fine

Most OC kernals are also undervolted anyway so I wouldn't worry about it

to be honest, i use mine with "underclocked" at 800mhz, trying to get at least a half-hour of battery life... i don't see the point in overclock a 1ghz processor, imo, even with a speed gain, the bad side effects easily override the good ones...
i truly believe that overclock my old milestone was the main cause of the problem that happens after...

thiagodark said:
to be honest, i use mine with "underclocked" at 800mhz, trying to get at least a half-hour of battery life... i don't see the point in overclock a 1ghz processor, imo, even with a speed gain, the bad side effects easily override the good ones...
i truly believe that overclock my old milestone was the main cause of the problem that happens after...
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I'd look at other reasons for your battery life, if it's really that bad.
I'm running at just a touch above 1GHz with no side affects what so ever and get 24+hrs with heavy use, 30+hrs with moderate use and 40+hrs with light use, and that's never turning wifi / 3G off unless I'm in bed when I switch to 2G.
At 1GHz the OCUV kernal I have installed uses less voltage than stock kernal at stock speeds so in theory it's actually safer.

It's not that bad, but it's not so great as yours too. I got about 16hrs with 'hard' use, what is enought most time, but sometimes i get in home with the blinking orange led. Quite annoying...
I try my best to improve the battery life, but i was becoming a battery freak, or something like that, always checking currentwidget...
I get 3 or 4ma at stand by, what is considered normal, i guess... and always use full brightness, hate to use anything bellow...
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thiagodark said:
It's not that bad, but it's not so great as yours too. I got about 16hrs with 'hard' use, what is enought most time, but sometimes i get in home with the blinking orange led. Quite annoying...
I try my best to improve the battery life, but i was becoming a battery freak, or something like that, always checking currentwidget...
I get 3 or 4ma at stand by, what is considered normal, i guess... and always use full brightness, hate to use anything bellow...
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Full brightness is your problem. I bet it uses like 70% of the current while you use your phone.

going up to 1.8GHz still running stable, thats crazy man!

smurcoch said:
Full brightness is your problem. I bet it uses like 70% of the current while you use your phone.
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Yep, you are correct, it's using about 75% of the battery...
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Any performance boost on 1.8 ghz
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[Q] CPU

ive just looked at a phone tester app thing, and found out my A500 is only running at 480mhz, how come? tried couple other apps to check and not moved, it should be an 1ghz?
help lol

Like virtually all modern processors, the CPU in the Acer scales its speed to the current required load; running @ 1GHz full time would generate additional heat (and system wear) as well as reduce the battery life.
My tab tends to spend about 2/3 of its time @ 456MHz and underMHz, and about 11% @ 1GHz, the rest being spent in between (with very few stops in the 760/816/912MHz stages.)
If you have SetCPU (requires Root) you can fire up a reasonably complex game for a couple of minutes and check the Time in State info again.
Now, if this isn't the case, what specific "phone tester" app did you try?

Yeah you would not want your tablet running Max CPU speeds all day.
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i understand about not running full all the time, but its a constant 430.39, it hasnt moved, even using a high end game or anything?

What's a high end game for you?
Because my tabled does go to 1GHz while playing Galaxy on Fire 2.

Get systempanel from the market and test.

If you are rooted, you can use the script i wrote to log clock speed and usage % of both cpu cores while you are doing something. I OC to 1.5 GHz and it is easy to crank both cores to to the max while watching a movie or even just browsing the web.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144665

[Q] standby cpu-usage

Today i recognized that my battery-usage is horrible, when i turn of the screen while running a game. cpu-spy tells me a lot of games force 1,1 ghz all the time. Is that expected behaviour or is there some way around it rather then quitting the game every time? Think I had similar behaviour with camera app, but that seems to be solved.
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Cpu speed depends on governor and cpu load. I assume that the cpu load is high during gaming and that forces top speed usage.
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Well, sure the cpu-load is high while gaming, but it shouldn't be when the display is turned of, should it?
I now switched the gouvernour from conservative to boosted and first tests suggest that solved the problem. Will keep on watching.

CPU Temperature?

Hello,
I just bought an N7 (16GB) a couple days ago.
Rooted with stock rom and Faux kernel. However my CPU Temperature is at 110-122 degrees F. Is this supposed to happen.
Haven't played any Tegra games since I've rooted it, but that's seems a little high to begin with.
Mods, feel free to move this if it is not in the correct forum.
Thanks,
Cyanide

Cyanidex00 said:
Hello,
I just bought an N7 (16GB) a couple days ago.
Rooted with stock rom and Faux kernel. However my CPU Temperature is at 110-122 degrees F. Is this supposed to happen.
Haven't played any Tegra games since I've rooted it, but that's seems a little high to begin with.
Mods, feel free to move this if it is not in the correct forum.
Thanks,
Cyanide
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I am not sure how tablets work but in the PC building community, 122F (about 50C) is not hot at all, it's actually a decent idling temp. Like I said, I don't know how tablet CPU/GPUs work, but at that temp you shouldn't have to worry much.

Thanks Mav,
Doesn't feel overly hot, but looking at the actual temperature just worried me a little bit.

Cyanidex00 said:
Hello,
I just bought an N7 (16GB) a couple days ago.
Rooted with stock rom and Faux kernel. However my CPU Temperature is at 110-122 degrees F. Is this supposed to happen.
Haven't played any Tegra games since I've rooted it, but that's seems a little high to begin with.
Mods, feel free to move this if it is not in the correct forum.
Thanks,
Cyanide
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Have you changed the max clock speed? If you're not playing graphic intense games 110-120 degrees is pretty high. The warmest mine has gotten even while gaming is 104 degrees.

I use System Tuner Pro to change the SysCtl options. I just used the recommended settings, I don't adjust anything.
Since both SetCPU and STP have clock adjusters, is that going to make a difference or will it cause problems?

Cyanidex00 said:
I use System Tuner Pro to change the SysCtl options. I just used the recommended settings, I don't adjust anything.
Since both SetCPU and STP have clock adjusters, is that going to make a difference or will it cause problems?
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Often times two CPU management apps running together will cause overheating and performance problems. I can't say if that's what yours is or not, but I would eliminate the possibility if I were trying to reduce heat, by clearing the app data on those apps and uninstalling them, rebooting, and installing only the one you will use.
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50C is normal. 100C is the nexus 7 safety shut down temp(itll shut off when reacing 100C). 40-65C is a normal range when cpu is active, maybe higher when using cpu intensive games.

airmaxx23 said:
Have you changed the max clock speed? If you're not playing graphic intense games 110-120 degrees is pretty high. The warmest mine has gotten even while gaming is 104 degrees.
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You're probably getting that confused with battery temperature.
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Does anyone notice a day-to-day task difference with an OC?

Just wondering how much an OC kernel actually helps with normal activities in non-gaming situations (such as browsing, java loading, etc). Besides benchmarks, does anyone TRULY notice a difference going from say 1.3 to 1.7?
I see the Tegra 3+ is out in the One X+ and wondering if we can OC to match?

I can say that some apps and games will load up faster and seem to run a little better but since this tablet already handles that so well it's hard for me to really pinpoint when something is going faster than normal.

I run mine at 1.5. Seems pretty snappy to me. Then again...it seemed pretty fast from the get go. I came from a cheap 7" Coby.
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I'm running Franco's kernel which runs the GPU at 484 MHz (OC from the stock 416MHz). The CPU is not overclockable with this kernel, which at first I wasn't happy with, as I usually OC my Nexus 7 at about 1.5GHz, dependent upon my mood . However, I haven't noticed a single difference in the real world. This kernel still hits 4800 points in Quadrant and 11`500 points in Antutu! Probably due to the slight GPU over clock xD.
CPU overclocking = impressive benchmarking, but little real world improvement and battery drain. Plus decreased life span on CPU.
GPU over clocking = much better gaming performance, big real world difference in gaming and little/no battery drain. More importantly though, NOVA 3 becomes 100 lag free!
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chaplinb said:
I'm running Franco's kernel which runs the GPU at 484 MHz (OC from the stock 416MHz). The CPU is not overclockable with this kernel, which at first I wasn't happy with, as I usually OC my Nexus 7 at about 1.5GHz, dependent upon my mood . However, I haven't noticed a single difference in the real world. This kernel still hits 4800 points in Quadrant and 11`500 points in Antutu! Probably due to the slight GPU over clock xD.
CPU overclocking = impressive benchmarking, but little real world improvement and battery drain. Plus decreased life span on CPU.
GPU over clocking = much better gaming performance, big real world difference in gaming and little/no battery drain. More importantly though, NOVA 3 becomes 100 lag free!
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Thank you very much for answering that is exactly the kind of response I wanted.