Running with a Nexus 4 - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello. So, I like to run, and quite often or not I hold my phone whilst running - as my running shorts don't have pockets. I should probably invest in some kind of arm strap or something. But either way, could running whilst holding my phone damage anything on the phone, internally, or externally? Or can I keep on doing it?
Also, dust. Today when running, I went past a builders yard and there was dust everywhere. Could that harm my phone?
Finally! A friend of mine shone his S3's camera on the back of my phone to see the pattern. Could that bright light do any damage to the camera?
Thank you for reading.

If it drops, the back glass will most definitely break. Maybe the front as well. If its sealed up properly dust should not be a problem. If your in an area where light is so bright it damages phone parts then you have other problems to deal with.
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I always ran with my phone in my pockets but fairly loose and its always been alright.

I use this armstrap. It holds my cc, keys, ID, and phone.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0072...s=armpocket&qid=1360692005&ref_=sr_1_4&sr=8-4
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I've been snowboarding with the N4 in my coat pocket for the past two months which has involved temperature changes ranging from -5 degrees to 70+ degrees within a single day, various climbs to the top of peaks, lots of vibration from different riding conditions, abrupt stops from dropping off of various cliffs/jumps etc. and the phone is still 100% flawless and has never had a single functionality issue. I do have a Diztronic case on it but the screen has no protection and is holding up perfectly. In fact, this is the first phone I've been able to put through its paces which has not developed a single scratch on the screen.
I can't speak for dust since I haven't really run into that much but in terms of durability of vibration and movement, I'd say the phone is pretty damn solid.

Ive used this for the past 3 phones and the N4 fits snugly (but not troublesome to put in or tough on the phone). I ran with it two days ago for the first time and it worked just as well as my GNex.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0071C9B0U/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
Ive run with all of my phones on my arm like that, as does my girlfriend. It may seem bulky but once you get it strapped down you dont really notice it. I use the Motorola Bluetooth headphones to get rid of cables and I use Cardiotrainer/Runkeeper to help track my performance.

If you're using a screen cover, that Tune Belt Armband might cause problems. I used to use that with my Nexus S when I was walking the dog and if I didn't peel the phone out carefully, it would catch the Zagg protector and bring it with it.
I run a lot and absolutely can't stand the bulk of a phone, even with the Tune Belt. Get a Garmin watch.

AW: Running with a Nexus 4
Sweat Killed a Phone for me and my gf ones. That was while running too.
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So sharp movements on the phone should be okay then? At least till I can get a strap. And provided I don't get my phone covered in dust, that's okay too? The bright light am talking about is just the light/LED/torch or whatever that's on the back of an S3
btw. What are the diamind like markings I can see on the screen in sunlight?

There's no moving parts, so you'll be ok running with it in your hand.
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So called build quality

A thought just ran through my head in regards to build quality. In short drop a feather & a brick from about chest high & see what happens.
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what is this I don't even.......
Wildheathen0341 said:
A thought just ran through my head in regards to build quality. In short drop a feather & a brick from about chest high & see what happens.
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Well, you'll have to understand that build quality can vary greatly when comparing feathers to bricks. Although it would seem that the feather escapes the drop test completely unharmed, you'll notice that there are thousands of micro-fractures from the force of the trauma. The brick, too, will suffer severe cracks and possible breaks, but you'll notice that once you put both subjects under an electon microscope, you'll see that the brick has fewer micro-fractures for a sum of less damage (even though fractured).
That is assuming, of course, a solid surface such as concrete or asphalt.
/Plus, what the heck are you talking about? lol. I want what you're smoking; my stuff doesn't seem that strong.
So our epic's build quality is strong, however its weight doesn't compensate its strength?
othan1 said:
I want what you're smoking; my stuff doesn't seem that strong.
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This.
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This is not the Mechanical Engineering thread is it? I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albuquerque.
wait, what???
i hope you don't think you were being deep
My epic dropped dozens of times
All i got is a scuff mark from when it landed on a corner
The epic may be plastic, but its some nice engineering
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A_Flying_Fox said:
My epic dropped dozens of times
All i got is a scuff mark from when it landed on a corner
The epic may be plastic, but its some nice engineering
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+1 to that. I dropped it on tile 2weeks ago, about 3feet, sounded soo harsh. I thought it would shutoff or something. was perfect, no scuffs or anything =)
othan1 said:
what the heck are you talking about? lol. I want what you're smoking; my stuff doesn't seem that strong.
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He's probably on this new drug called Sheen. I hear it gives you tiger blood.
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Its like comparing titanium and steel,titanium is lighter,yet stronger given you use the same weight not thickness; Say if you had a 1" thick steel wall and a 1" thick titanium wall,the steel wall would be stronger in say a penetration test; But use the same material in weight and that 1" wall of titanium becomes a 3" thick wall,which would easily be stronger then a 1" thick steel wall. But seriously anything lighter will have less impact on case and components on the inside,physics 101,and a feather wouldnt get damaged from a drop on the ground.
Ok Im done thinking...
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Shoulon said:
+1 to that. I dropped it on tile 2weeks ago, about 3feet, sounded soo harsh. I thought it would shutoff or something. was perfect, no scuffs or anything =)
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Dropped mine onto a hard concrete floor about 4 feet. Back popped off, battery popped out, my dad gasped as I said "don't worry, I'm insured" and noticed some minor scuffs/pitting in one corner. I put the phone back together and it's like nothing ever happened.
Samsung physically builds their phones great. I've had 3 of them including my Epic.
If you don't know what I'm talking about then how could you possibly have an answer yet you've offered up one still. Smoking huh? ;-)
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Simple, drop a galaxy S device from about chest high Vs. an iPhone from the same height & what do you think the result would be? Now of course I don't mean on a mattress or any thing like that I mean a surface with very little give, what do you think the outcome would be?
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One weekend a few months ago I had my phone sitting on my desk charging, and it rang right as I was walking by. I grabbed the phone as I walked by so that I could answer it, but hadn't noticed it was plugged in to the wall two feet down.
As I grabbed the phone and turned to walk away, the cord caught, actually bending around a knob on my desk making a tight point and slipping the phone right out of my hands.
'Oh crap' I thought, and I quickly reached back to snatch it, but my lightning reflexes were not expecting the spring-loaded return the charge cable had initiated, and only the tips of my fingers hit the phone... hard... in an upward motion away from me.
In that moment my phone went from a 3 foot free fall to a high speed projection 7 feet above floor level and landing, cable now detached by force, about 15 feet away. On the floor. Which is tile.
As if that wasn't enough to make a bad situation worse, about 2 hours before I had taken my hard case off as well to swap memory cards and had not put the case back on.
In those 5 seconds from fingertips to floor I had already started wondering how good the insurance policy I had paid in advance for was going to be, but when I picked the phone up off the ground it was 100% intact, not even a scratch on it.
A far cry from any previous phones I have dropped, where a drop from 24" (falling off my lap getting out of a car, etc) would result in the phones exploding every loose panel, battery, etc, scuffing the crap out of the plastics. With the size of the screen on this phone I thought for sure if nothing else the screen would blow up, but not even that.
I was close then =P well my Dad own's a 3GS and dropped it off a Scaffold at 25ft. It worked fine, no scratch since it had invisiShield. Also on a lift at about 45ft. the outer rim bended abit though.
i think the epic's pretty well built
I accidentally launched mine from my pocket to about 10 feet away across the bar on my birthday. Fell screen down on a sandy floor. Digitizer shattered, but worked fine. Best Buy replaced the deigitizer. Fine now.
+1 to bestbuys awesome warranty's.
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Heroic leap of i9001

Since I got myself new Nexus, I gave my sister i9001. I used to treat it like king, not a single scratch, not even on back of it. I was walking down the street with my sister. When she talks, she usually waves everywhere with her arms and she was holding the phone. When she swung up, the phone just "escaped" from her hand in the air, like 3,5 meters high (don't know how much feet, sorry 'Merica) and it fell on the middle of the road with pretty great force (if that was happen to iPhone, it would probably be turn to dust). Anyway, that moment when we realized what happened and the noise the phone did when hit the ground just terrified me, and the phone was face down so I couldn't see the screen. I crapped my pants while getting the phone from the ground thinking what kind of damage is done on the device. But when I picked it up, it didn't have a single scratch. Except little crack but on that silver crap on the edge (I don't know how is that called, but it is irrelevant, it's barely noticable). After that sister got the back cover and SIM card from the other side of the road. It still works perfectly
Just felt like I need to share with you about the armor of Galaxy S.
Bear witness to the amazing power of the SGS construction and, I suppose, a lot of force escapes with the cover and battery when they're ejected...
Your sister had issues btw
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Hr Kristian said:
Bear witness to the amazing power of the SGS construction and, I suppose, a lot of force escapes with the cover and battery when they're ejected...
Your sister had issues btw
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Yeah, she used to own Xperia X8 and she hated it so much that she was insensitive about it and was throwing it everywhere in the room only to break it so mum and dad buy her new one. She is completely satisfied with i9001 but still got old habits of not caring for phone.
Not so lucky for me my s plus dropped 2 feet from the ground and craked the screen badly =(
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I have dropped mine a few times and, like you, aside from a few small nicks in the silver crud its perfect.

[Q] Do TPU cases get hot?

Hey guys,
I just received my new black TPU case. It fits next to perfectly and makes my phone feel way more sturdy, so I'm very happy so far . Now I have one question: will TPU cases become hot easily? Of course too much heat will not be good for my phone and when it turns summer here again, I want to know if it might get my phone to become too hot, especially since it's black.
I don't know if it is a stupid question, but then I will know that at least too
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That's a strange question.
It sounds like your trying to say if the tpu case will emit heat on its own. LOL
1. You should not leave your phone out in the sun. That's how it gets hot during the hot summer. (That's why you have pockets.)
2. The environment you're in will affect the temperature of the phone but not too much. For example, a outside temperature of 25 degrees Fahrenheit will decrease the temperature to about maybe about 4-5+ degrees lower. But the phone is still operable.
3. I have been using tpu cases for years and it has never been a problem. I never thought about it either. You bought the case you use it. Otherwise, you can leave it naked and free.
(Please don't leave your phone out in the hot sumer hot.) Keep it in your pocket or backpack with the case on and away from hard objects that can damage the screen.
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scream4cheese said:
That's a strange question.
It sounds like your trying to say if the tpu case will emit heat on its own. LOL
1. You should not leave your phone out in the sun. That's how it gets hot during the hot summer. (That's why you have pockets.)
2. The environment you're in will affect the temperature of the phone but not too much. For example, a outside temperature of 25 degrees Fahrenheit will decrease the temperature to about maybe about 4-5+ degrees lower. But the phone is still operable.
3. I have been using tpu cases for years and it has never been a problem. I never thought about it either. You bought the case you use it. Otherwise, you can leave it naked and free.
(Please don't leave your phone out in the hot sumer hot.) Keep it in your pocket or backpack with the case on and away from hard objects that can damage the screen.
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Thanks for your reaction. I didn't mean that it would emit heat, but more that it would trap it. The thing I was concerned about would in be in summer in my room whilst the phone would be charging. Especially when I'm playing the PS3 there in summer temperature would rise quite a bit and the battery of my old ace went up to 40°C
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[Q] Back glass completely broken - but it has not falled :| - warranty?

Hi guys.
This morning I woke up as every other morning and did my breakfast on a glass table.
I always gently put the N4 on the glass table, with the bottom speaker just slightly out of the table's surface for being able to hear its sounds...I'm sure you know what I mean!
Fact is that this simple, standard and fair operation completely broke the back glass of the phone. I didn't even understand at first what all that creaky sounds were...then I felt like much dust was under the phone, but it was its back in millions of little parts. I posted a photo on G+ here https://plus.google.com/u/0/104235829819528805196/posts/dgbDjvAtGjM
Now...as I ask there...do you think warranty will cover this? It's a big hassle because I live in Italy and I bought it in an online shop in Germany with a re-shipment from there just because, as you know, the device wasn't much available elsewhere back in January (it's not available here in Italy even today). Do you think I take a risk if I send it back, like the device coming to LG and they refusing to repair it, so I just burnt lot of money of shipments and repair service for no reason? I see I could buy a replacement back for around 60 EUR but I will void the warranty opening it...and seeing how fragile it is....who knows what happens in the next 19 months....
In short, I need some advice
I'm not sure about warranty in Europe, so I'm not going to touch on that, however that break was caused by rapid temperature change, like if you run hot water on an iced over windshield on your car
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mrmidnight said:
however that break was caused by rapid temperature change, like if you run hot water on an iced over windshield on your car
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This makes sense. The glass table is particularly cold at the touch, and thick. Even if I could also note that the phone was previously just in my bedroom at ambient temperature and no sun was on it, so, well, if the back of the phone was made of -some- part of simil-glass too, it was somehow cold too!
If you look close, the pattern comes from the camera, which doesn't sit flush, my guess is heat off the battery "vents" there, it was warm there, touched cold glass, and shattered
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That looks pretty cool. I would give google a call, but if anything you can always hide it with a skin.
mrmidnight said:
If you look close, the pattern comes from the camera, which doesn't sit flush, my guess is heat off the battery "vents" there, it was warm there, touched cold glass, and shattered
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Thinking more about it, I remember I had just detached the phone from charge. But something weird happened! When I woke up, and the phone was still under charge from the night, I noticed the battery was still at 99% and charging, after 7/9 hours!!! I just let it complete the charge to 100% before detaching it. It could be it was particularly how and I did not notice it....
won't lie, that is by far the prettiest cracked back i've ever seen for a n4. hahaha
@ErgMeglio Well, you weren't dancing on it, so I'd say Google and/or LG would cover it with an International Warranty. I'm no lawyer, and bought mine through Google Play ... So I'd simply go back to them for a repair.
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I've sent it under warranty after so many headaches with the shop.
Now I am awaiting for their investigation to know if they are going to cover it as they should.. imho...
Cross your fingers for me please
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The nexus 4 has the worst build quality I've ever seen

I don't care what anyone says. The nexus 4 is a really cheaply made device. But what can you expect from a device with good specs at that pricepoint? Answer: a lot more than what I got, that's for sure. Anyways I have a huge list of defects on mine, so I hope I can cover all of them here
Screen banding: greys look quite poor and inconsistent, almost like the ribbon cable is damaged. Similar to this issue is that after turning the device off for a few minutes then turning it back on the sides of the screen, especially the right side, look way brighter than they should. Almost like backlight bleed, which I have as well
creaking: An issue mostly for the nexus 7 that somehow arrived on my nexus 4 as well. My nexus 4 for the longest time creaked like you wouldn't believe. You know when you pick up an old SNES controller and twist it a bit and it creaks? Yeah, like that, except it was every time I touched near the power button. I tried to fix it, but I only caused 2 other areas to creak and only partially fixed the first one
multi touch issues: Another issue thought to be exclusive to the nexus 7 but was transferred over to my 4. I first noticed it when I was fooling around with an ocarina app on my phone and I couldn't cover all the holes, so I downloaded a multitouch app and noticed a problem. When I have 4 fingers touching the screen, one of a few things happens. It either only registers 2 or 3 touches, or if I move my finger it will move the finger that I have parallel to it the opposite direction that I moved my finger. And if I have them all in a line it just goes f*cking nuts, sometimes having one finger, sometimes having 4 but not in a straight line, sometimes 2, etc. It was even worse than my nexus 7.
I could go on and on about how there's a dead pixel somewhere on the screen, or how there's sometimes a green spot in the middle of my camera, but let's stop there. You may be wondering why I haven't returned it yet. Well that's because the glass on the back completely shattered, like spiderwebs everywhere. But I didn't drop it, nor did I put the hot phone on a cold table, in fact, I just squeezed the side a bit. I took off the cover to fix the creaking issue, since I figured out how to fix it, and I wasn't pushing that hard, I've put far more stress on it just from taking it off, and I hear a loud "pop" and my hand is covered in glass, and there's really bad crackage on the back. I also put a tiny crack in it earlier from letting it slide off of my pants TWO INCHES OFF THE GROUND. *heavy breathing* I've never had such poor experiences with devices in my entire life. It's even worse than my experience with my nexus 7, which had similar issues, like the creaking, and the backlight bleeding, and the multitouch issues, and my nexus 7 had at least 40 stuck pixels on it that weren't fixed when I got a new screen. I don't think I'm ever going to buy a Nexus product ever again. I don't care if it's stock android, or if the performance is good, or if it's easy to root, or whatever. What's the most important part of a device? Being able to f*cking use it. And I can't use any of the devices I've owned because they've all been defective! My galaxy nexus had HUGE scratches on it just from it being in my bag, and stopped charging even after replacing the USB port, my first nexus 7's battery didn't work, my second nexus 7's screen had at least 40 stuck pixels, the oleophobic layer started to come off and it creaked a bit, and after getting it RMA'ed most of the pixels were still there and it creaked like a SOAB, and my nexus 4, I've already explained in depth. So now whenever I hear "oh, the nexus 4's build quality is comparable to the iPhone 5" or "the nexus 7 is soo much better built than samsung tablets" I just chuckle and say "yeah, I believe you"
What do you expect it sells for 299$only
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Sounds like more of an issue of how you take care of your devices rather than the device itself.
I have every device you listed and they look brand new while never using a case.
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Why is this in the Q/A section? And who cares?
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I took superb care of it, the vast majority of issues I have with it were there when I got it, and sorry put it in the wrong thread.
My phone is in really good condition. I bought it on launch date and I have not had a replacement get. I really don't know what you are talking about.
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Well that was a poorly-formatted paragraph, and after sifting through it for your complaints, I can tell you that half of those issues can be "fixed" with kernel adjustments. I put 'fixed' in quotation marks because they aren't really fixes, more like tweaks.
As for the rest of your complaints, it seems like you don't take very good care of your phone. My Nexus 4 is in mint condition and I don't use a case or screen protector. If it's not in my hand, it's in my pocket. I don't set it on tables or anywhere, really. Treat that phone like the high-end piece of electronics that it is instead of the way you treat your car keys.
Also: prepare for this thread to be closed.
Idk man it sounds a lot like ur just complaining .. I've had a lot of devices so little stuff doesn't get me anymore but you could've gotten unlucky too but honestly I've had my phone since November and I just haven't tried to hear it creak . .I'm sure it does but I could care less you might have OCD though if ur noticing all that small stuff you might wanna get that checked out.
And the other stuff sounds like u did it ur self cause that first crack is always the hardest after that ur screens pretty much shattered honestly
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I don't have any issues with build quality mime is great!! Flash a kernel to make the colors great!! If you don't really can't what people tell you about the build quality what post this when you know people are going to reply.
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You're judging the build quality of a device sold globally based solely on one defective unit that you happened to receive? That's simply not logical. I for one have a device with no issues and I consistently throw my phone onto my bed (easy 2-3 feet down) and absolutely nothing has happened to it. I can get a creak but only if I press the back of the phone with amounts of force that would never come up in a normal usage scenario. You're hugely exaggerating here, and while I understand your frustration there's really no point complaining about bad luck.
You don't care what anyone says and nobody cares what you say. Let's call it even and move on.
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Well I'm glad to know that other people are having better luck. And I already said I take superb care of it. I don't throw it around, or whatever. I treat it really well. I'm just really frustrated that I always have such bad luck with things like this. I'm just gonna remove this thread as it's not doing anything productive, nor is it necessarily an accurate opinion.
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, nor is it necessarily an accurate opinion.
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Yeah I apologize this thread really shouldn't exist. I just got a bit angry and didn't know where else to put my anger into. The nexus 4 is really a fantastic device, just not MY nexus 4. Besides I'm getting a new back which will fix the creaking issue and cracked back issue which are the two issues that bother me the most. The rest of the issues are fairly minor (except maybe multi touch, but who knows, that could be the back as well, maybe it's a software bug) and I can live with them. I've already calibrated the display so the banding and bleeding issues are a bit less pronounced.
I tested this multitouch thing:
I can place all my 10 fingers on the screen and it will recognize them. But put 4 on it and place them in a line: every "touch" will be gone ..now move one finger (while 4 are on the screen): 1 finger is recognized.
Yes, very strange.
I too have slight creaks on the screws and a bit on the power button. And a lot of small scratches on the back since it just lays on the glass :/
How often does someone need to use their screen like a retard unless u have no fingers
I really shouldn't be complaining too much because it could be much worse. And it only cost 350 dollars.
I don't care what op says. My n4 is the best phone I ever had. And mine build quality is iphone like. I had to rma my first one due to some problem. But rma process is too easy smooth and fast not like iphone.
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How often does someone need to use their screen like a retard unless u have no fingers
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hahah yeah i mean i at most use 2 fingers on my screen at any given time, rarely do i use 3 fingers
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I'm just gonna remove this thread as it's not doing anything productive, nor is it necessarily an accurate opinion.
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At least you realised and admitted this rather than doing what some people do and arguing fruitlessly. If you want this thread to be deleted or closed report the OP for 'maintenance' and ask for it to be closed, or PM a mod.

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