[Q] Why Windows Explorer crash when renaming file through MTP? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I can copy large and multiple small files TO the Nexus 4 no problem with MTP.
Copying FROM the device to PC is always finicky. I resorted to qtADB for that.
But whenever I tried to rename a file or folder thru MTP, Explorer hangs and not responding. I have to kill it via Task Manager to gain back control.
It's getting really annoying picking up my phone just to rename a folder.
For what its worth, I use Windows 8 64-bit, Nexus 4 with AOKP build 2, franco.kernel r68-test.
Any body can help me?
Thanks in advance, guys.
Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with AOKP and Franco.kernel

I don't think I have your problem but regarding recovering from Explorer hanging (which I have experienced before for x other reason with MTP) I find that the hanging will stop once the phone is unplugged. That should be a less intrusive way than using the Task Manager. Let me know if that method works for you too.

palmboy5 said:
I don't think I have your problem but regarding recovering from Explorer hanging (which I have experienced before for x other reason with MTP) I find that the hanging will stop once the phone is unplugged. That should be a less intrusive way than using the Task Manager. Let me know if that method works for you too.
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Yes, it does work! Thanks.
I never thought to unplug the phone :silly:
But the problem still exist, though.
I can't rename a file through MTP.
This happens every time.
I'm actually starting to hate MTP.

elzafir said:
Yes, it does work! Thanks.
I never thought to unplug the phone :silly:
But the problem still exist, though.
I can't rename a file through MTP.
This happens every time.
I'm actually starting to hate MTP.
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I haven't tried renaming through MTP so I cannot confirm or deny this.
I use AirDroid and just tested renaming a file and it was successful.

hgigh said:
I haven't tried renaming through MTP so I cannot confirm or deny this.
I use AirDroid and just tested renaming a file and it was successful.
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I also use AirDroid and all is fine.
But when I want to copy, let say 5GB worth of FLACs, Wi-Fi is just too slow.
MTP is a ****ty protocol, but I do understand the need for it. Android doesnt use FAT32, hence the MTP.
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elzafir said:
I also use AirDroid and all is fine.
But when I want to copy, let say 5GB worth of FLACs, Wi-Fi is just too slow.
MTP is a ****ty protocol, but I do understand the need for it. Android doesnt use FAT32, hence the MTP.
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I have this same problem on my Note 2 as well..... Don't remember it happening with Windows 7 (I'm on 8 now) ..... it's so frustrating. Clearly this isn't just the Nexus 4 problem. How can MTP be such an absolute piece of garbage????

adrianblack said:
I have this same problem on my Note 2 as well..... Don't remember it happening with Windows 7 (I'm on 8 now) ..... it's so frustrating. Clearly this isn't just the Nexus 4 problem. How can MTP be such an absolute piece of garbage????
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On my previous LG Optimus L7, Explorer crash when I copy multiple files to the device. I had to resort with the ol' and trusty method of USB card reader.
It's alot better on the Nexus 4, though. Copying files to the device is all good. Copying from the device and renaming files are where the problem lies.
I hate this. At least iTunes is somewhat reliable for the iPhone.
Granted, MTP is necessary for phones without microSD slot, because Android use EXT file system which not readable by Windows. To allow USB Mass Storage mode, the manufacturer has to partition the phone storage, one is EXT for Android system and apps, the other is FAT32 for user data. We also hate that configuration, since it will limit app storage.
But I still hate how unreliable MTP is.
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elzafir said:
I can copy large and multiple small files TO the Nexus 4 no problem with MTP.
Copying FROM the device to PC is always finicky. I resorted to qtADB for that.
But whenever I tried to rename a file or folder thru MTP, Explorer hangs and not responding. I have to kill it via Task Manager to gain back control.
It's getting really annoying picking up my phone just to rename a folder.
For what its worth, I use Windows 8 64-bit, Nexus 4 with AOKP build 2, franco.kernel r68-test.
Any body can help me?
Thanks in advance, guys.
Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with AOKP and Franco.kernel
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I have same problem with my Galaxy S3.
I looks like that the root of problem is Windows 8 64-bit. I didn't have such problem when I used it under Windows 7 64-bit.
To me, it took more than 20 minutes to rename a file. Well.. As you expected, Explore was not responding.
However, once finishing renaming successfully, there was no "not responsing" to rename files until detatching my phone.

windows 8 is definitely the problem, I have all kinds of issues between android phones and Win8, where I never had any issues before "upgrading" to win8. I wish i had a solution but i dont. Maybe it would be easier to rename the files using a native file explorer, if you are rooted.

shultz11588 said:
windows 8 is definitely the problem, I have all kinds of issues between android phones and Win8, where I never had any issues before "upgrading" to win8. I wish i had a solution but i dont. Maybe it would be easier to rename the files using a native file explorer, if you are rooted.
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It's NOT a Windows 8 problem. I Have exactly the same problem on Windows 7 Pro 64 (I have a Nexus 4, btw). And now in Windows 8.1. Crashing all the time... MTP and Windows SUX!!! This problem don't happen in Ubuntu 13.

lucasfxd said:
It's NOT a Windows 8 problem. I Have exactly the same problem on Windows 7 Pro 64 (I have a Nexus 4, btw). And now in Windows 8.1. Crashing all the time... MTP and Windows SUX!!! This problem don't happen in Ubuntu 13.
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Same annoyance here, but for once I let Explorer "hang" for up to 2 whole minutes while renaming a folder, and I discovered it finally did rename, just requires patience.

hi guys,
i know this is an old thread..
i was just curious to know if someone has already got a solution to this.
i can confirm, that this has to do with windows 8-64bit.
i had never experienced any problems with MTP and windows before windows 8-64bit.

Sorry to bump such an old thread but did you guys solve the problem? Did you find some kind of workarround?
Thanks in advance

I can't believe this is still a thing. Absolutely infuriating.

Yeah, I would've hoped this would be fixed by now. The only work around I found is just to create the folder name you want on Windows and drop it into Android. Then use Android to delete the old folder.
If you're moving old files to the new folder from Android. Then you want to use Android file explorer to move the files you want to it. If you use Windows to do it, it's going to take a while, as if you're copying new files from Windows to Android again.
Any word if Lollipop would fix this issue?

Goshtic said:
Yeah, I would've hoped this would be fixed by now. The only work around I found is just to create the folder name you want on Windows and drop it into Android. Then use Android to delete the old folder.
If you're moving old files to the new folder from Android. Then you want to use Android file explorer to move the files you want to it. If you use Windows to do it, it's going to take a while, as if you're copying new files from Windows to Android again.
Any word if Lollipop would fix this issue?
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Lollipop has not fixed the issue........ Is there a solution somewhere that I've missed? I've been searching since I upgraded to 8.... I know this is a very old thread but I can't find anything....

I don't have a complete solution but I've discovered a workaround. When renaming a file, rather than clicking outside of the text area after typing the new name, instead press enter to confirm and it doesn't lock up (in my case). Been having the same issue with my S3 previously and S5 currently ever since I've used MTP.

I have this problem only one solution for me is F2FS. But I'm on FlexOS with OnePlus and it does not support F2FS

Guys, the problem still continues.
I try to connect my G4 in Win 7 and 8.1 then renaming the new folder, but it still makes my Win Explorer not responding

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Windows 7 RC

Anyone running this? and if so, how does it work as far as development stuff goes. I just dont want to lose ADB and everything. I have a spare HDD lying around so I may just swap them out and install on there, or I could fix my old laptops LCD and get that system running with windows 7... regardless, I want to try before i buy lol
anyone got their own $.02?
PS- mods feel free to move this to the correct forum if need be, I wasnt sure where I would post a question like this as it regards to the Dream and the computer side of things...
I learned how to use ADB on Windows 7 and been using it ever since.
DOHCtor said:
I learned how to use ADB on Windows 7 and been using it ever since.
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sweet... i am downloading the RC now soooooo... any pointers/advice... lol
only downside I am seeing down the road is having to/wipe/re-install the actual release and not just being able to upgrade... i tried doing a seperate partition, but my computer wont let me shrink my C:\ only my Recovery (E:\)
palosjr said:
sweet... i am downloading the RC now soooooo... any pointers/advice... lol
only downside I am seeing down the road is having to/wipe/re-install the actual release and not just being able to upgrade... i tried doing a seperate partition, but my computer wont let me shrink my C:\ only my Recovery (E:\)
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Everything works on my x64 install (and it's where I do all my development), and I assume RC will work the same.
I was originally using Vista Home Premium and am now on the 7 RC. First off, there was a small problem applying to a group of Vista users that caused them to have a lot of problems installing ADB drivers, me included, in fact it was so screwed up I ended up completely messing up my computer and having to do a system restore and after a few hours was finally able to get it to install. Once I installed Windows 7 RC, I connected my G1, went to Device Manager, clicked on the G1 and installed the ADB drivers, and done. However, for me, I am unable to mount my phone as a mass storage device to access the SD card, in order to do this, I have to disable USB debugging on my phone, and it works, then reenable it again later to use ADB.
coolbho3000 said:
Everything works on my x64 install (and it's where I do all my development), and I assume RC will work the same.
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thanks... i am debating things now... install new os or not to install... hmmm
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I was originally using Vista Home Premium and am now on the 7 RC. First off, there was a small problem applying to a group of Vista users that caused them to have a lot of problems installing ADB drivers, me included, in fact it was so screwed up I ended up completely messing up my computer and having to do a system restore and after a few hours was finally able to get it to install. Once I installed Windows 7 RC, I connected my G1, went to Device Manager, clicked on the G1 and installed the ADB drivers, and done. However, for me, I am unable to mount my phone as a mass storage device to access the SD card, in order to do this, I have to disable USB debugging on my phone, and it works, then reenable it again later to use ADB.
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I am hoping all goes well, if not I have backed everything up and I know where to come with all my questions regarding g1 things...
palosjr said:
I am hoping all goes well, if not I have backed everything up and I know where to come with all my questions regarding g1 things...
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You shouldn't need to back anything up. Windows 7 RC doesn't require a clean install, it can back everything up for you.
SolemnWishing said:
You shouldn't need to back anything up. Windows 7 RC doesn't require a clean install, it can back everything up for you.
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Right, but one of the reasons i backed up now was so that when Windows 7 is actually released, i wont have to do it then seeing as how it will be in the middle of a semester for school and such. The 7 RC installs an "upgrade" so I should be in good shape as far as directories and all that go right? meaning i wont have to go into windows.old to find items i have downloaded and flashed to my current build on my g1.... they should be preserved... i would think...
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Right, but one of the reasons i backed up now was so that when Windows 7 is actually released, i wont have to do it then seeing as how it will be in the middle of a semester for school and such. The 7 RC installs an "upgrade" so I should be in good shape as far as directories and all that go right? meaning i wont have to go into windows.old to find items i have downloaded and flashed to my current build on my g1.... they should be preserved... i would think...
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They will be, and that is a good point as Microsoft doesn't offer an upgrade to Windows 7 OEM from RC, which is a bit annoying.
so i told myself before i started the install that if i got one error, i would stop right there and exit setup... a quarter of the way copying files it stopped and said that the files could not be copied blah blah... i think i may just wait til the OS goes public and upgrade then =P
mods feel free to trash this thread now... thanks to all you guys that chimed in to help!
I use virtual box or vmware and "xp pirate edition" to do all my adb work...

Can't write to the nexus 7 internal

For some reason I cannot move files via Windows 7 file explorer to the Nexus. I can and have done this on every other mobile device that I've had before. What's the difference? Why can't I place pics and videos on it?
A few more details would be super helpful to give you a good answer. Start with if you are running a custom ROM and what if anything you have tried to solve the problem.
When you plug in your usb look under settings - storage and see if there is the option to mount storage.
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For some reason, now it's letting me even though I didn't change anything. Mods can delete this if they want. And thank you ezas for your reply.
Glad you got it sorted out.
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Brian Gove said:
For some reason, now it's letting me even though I didn't change anything. Mods can delete this if they want. And thank you ezas for your reply.
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In my limited experience using MTP (rooted stock N7 4.2.2 + Win 7 x64), what seems to work well is:
- copying files FROM the N7 which were already in the /sdcard mount point when the N7 last booted,
- copying files TO the N7 into a folder which already existed inside the /sdcard mount point when the N7 last booted.
(I should also point out that moving files this way seems to be 5-7 times faster than using "adb push" or "adb pull")
What seems to only work sporadically is trying to copy or write to things which were "recently created" in the /sdcard mount point. For instance, if you generate a large set of files using Android, you won't be able to find them from the PC until a seemingly random ? amount of time later. Similarly, if you create a folder on the N7 (let's say by using a file manager) with the intent of pushing some files there from the PC, you won't see that folder show up in a reasonable amount of time.
This behavior actually does make sense - in principle, it is impossible to allow instantaneous write access to a file system from two independent hosts without running risks of filesystem corruption. In previous versions of Android, external SD cards could be accessed using USB Mass Storage drivers, but only exclusively by either the Android device or the PC - never at the same time. The SD card had to be unmounted from Android in order to be seen by the PC.
But, what is curious is the delays involved. I wanted to do something similar to this the other day (copying a nandroid backup from the PC to a "new" folder on the N7), and thought that by correctly disconnecting from the PC followed by reconnecting to the PC would allow the newly-created folder to "show up" via MTP on the PC. No such luck however; I needed to reboot the N7 for that to happen.
Bottom line is that MTP will work (and quickly, too! - better than 10 MB/sec) - but only with the above limitations in mind. When in doubt, reboot the N7.

[Q] Cannot copy old camera photos to DCIM folder after 4.4.2 image flash.

After flashing the factory image to my device i found that i cannot copy my old camera photos into the DCIM folder. I am on build KOT49H 4.4.2. I cant do this on any of my PC's. 2 of them are running windows 8.1 and the other windows 7 ultimate. Could this be a bug in the android firmware? Can anyone else reproduce this? It does seem to copy some photos but then stops and i get a FC. Ive tried both MTP and PTP with the same results. Im just trying to rule out a hardware malfunction. Any help is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: The photos im trying to copy in there are the ones i had prior to flashing the factory image.
tylercarter said:
After flashing the factory image to my device i found that i cannot copy my old camera photos into the DCIM folder. I am on build KOT49H 4.4.2. I cant do this on any of my PC's. 2 of them are running windows 8.1 and the other windows 7 ultimate. Could this be a bug in the android firmware? Can anyone else reproduce this? It does seem to copy some photos but then stops and i get a FC. Ive tried both MTP and PTP with the same results. Im just trying to rule out a hardware malfunction. Any help is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: The photos im trying to copy in there are the ones i had prior to flashing the factory image.
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Same thing here. I'm running Windows 8.
Went to copy some photos and it copies like half of them or 3/4 of them and then it freezes. If you copy your images individually it'll work, thankfully I don't have a ton of them so I just did it that way, but it'd probably be really annoying if you have a lot of pictures and not even work it.
Zeebz said:
Same thing here. I'm running Windows 8.
Went to copy some photos and it copies like half of them or 3/4 of them and then it freezes. If you copy your images individually it'll work, thankfully I don't have a ton of them so I just did it that way, but it'd probably be really annoying if you have a lot of pictures and not even work it.
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Same here. I have the problem since 4.2.2 (Stock, CM etc.) on Windows 8.1
And my file transfer is since 4.2 much slower than normal. Very annoying.
Zeebz said:
Same thing here. I'm running Windows 8.
Went to copy some photos and it copies like half of them or 3/4 of them and then it freezes. If you copy your images individually it'll work, thankfully I don't have a ton of them so I just did it that way, but it'd probably be really annoying if you have a lot of pictures and not even work it.
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Quipper2008 said:
Same here. I have the problem since 4.2.2 (Stock, CM etc.) on Windows 8.1
And my file transfer is since 4.2 much slower than normal. Very annoying.
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Thanks a bunch! So glad its not just my device. I tried fully wiping and reflashing the factory image but the bug is still there.
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[Q] Mac User - Android File Transfer not recognizing S7 edge

I must be doing something stupid, but no matter what combination of options I user in Developer Options and USB transfer type, AFT does not recognize the device and asked to restart or reattach. What am I missing? Thanks in advance. p.s. I made the switch from an iPhone and have forgotten most of the Android stuff I knew several years ago.
jsamuels said:
I must be doing something stupid, but no matter what combination of options I user in Developer Options and USB transfer type, AFT does not recognize the device and asked to restart or reattach. What am I missing? Thanks in advance. p.s. I made the switch from an iPhone and have forgotten most of the Android stuff I knew several years ago.
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It unfortunately does not work.
Download Smart Switch from here: http://www.samsung.com/us/smart-switch/assets/downloads/SmartSwitch_Mac_setup.dmg
Once it has been downloaded, it will tell you to unlock your phone and connect it.
Once that has been done, click the down arrow beside "Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge"; You will see a folder beside Internal Memory, so click on that folder, and from here, it will look similar to Android File Transfer.
You should be able to drag and drop files into the folders, create new folders, move sh*t around, etc.
Thanks. I'll give it a shot. When I first used the other day I didn't see the file transfer capability, only the basic backup and restore functions.
jsamuels said:
Thanks. I'll give it a shot. When I first used the other day I didn't see the file transfer capability, only the basic backup and restore functions.
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Yeah unfortunately this is the only way I found to do it on a Mac.
Mac and Android don't really go well together
Worked perfectly. Too bad AFT doesn't work. I assume Google will update to support this phone. Again, thanks.
But Smart Switch is painfully slow in file transfer. There has got to be a way to get AFT working again. Mine just stopped, and when connecting the device, USB debugging on or off, the phone does not ask me if I want to allow the file transfer. I think mine stopped working after installing SideSync, and I never had Kies installed so that solution does not apply. This should not be rocket science!

Files get deleted when cut/pasting

So when I connect my phone to my PC and enable file transfer, I try and copy or cut and paste files and it doesn't work. Yesterday I created a new folder where my pictures are stored by default. I then copied and pasted the pics from the main folder to the new one and it went through the motions but didn't display any. I refreshed and still nothing. I backed out of the directory and the folder said it was empty but so was my main pic folder. So it basically deleted everything instead of pasting them in the new folder. Is there an easy fix to this? Never had this issue with my note 3 and 4. Or any other phone for that matter. Is there like a Read/Write command to turn on or something? Seams like a pretty big flaw to not be able to cut paste files and they just get deleted....
Any help on the subject would be greatly appreciated,
Never had any issues like this, both on encrypted and decrypted data. Try flashing the userdata again and see if the issue still persist.
Also, have you checked for the pics in Recycle Bin?
sufoalmighty said:
Never had any issues like this, both on encrypted and decrypted data. Try flashing the userdata again and see if the issue still persist.
Also, have you checked for the pics in Recycle Bin?
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If it helps, I am not rooted and completely stock. How would I go about finding the recycling bin?
I have the same issue with my OP5 (decrypted)
Have you tried copy pasting?
Mine worked well when I did it (encrypted).
Just drag and drop, don't copy so much, try one folder at a time instead.
Also I'd never use cut and paste, if it fails you could end up in limbo with files missing.
Always copy.
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strider5236 said:
If it helps, I am not rooted and completely stock. How would I go about finding the recycling bin?
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You were moving pics from your PC to the phone, were you not?
Windows moves the files to Recycle Bin when you cut-paste.
sufoalmighty said:
You were moving pics from your PC to the phone, were you not?
Windows moves the files to Recycle Bin when you cut-paste.
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No, just moving files from one folder to another within the phone. Just using the PC to play middle man to issue the command.
Pwnycorn said:
Have you tried copy pasting?
Mine worked well when I did it (encrypted).
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I am not concerned about the files as I have a backup. What concerns me is that the OP5 does this to begin with. I have had several iphones and several Samsung phones and never encountered this issue. That is a design flaw within the software. I was hoping to get an answer as to if this can be fixed or if it is just a flaw with OP5's operating system. Just seems odd this phone does that.
strider5236 said:
I am not concerned about the files as I have a backup. What concerns me is that the OP5 does this to begin with. I have had several iphones and several Samsung phones and never encountered this issue. That is a design flaw within the software. I was hoping to get an answer as to if this can be fixed or if it is just a flaw with OP5's operating system. Just seems odd this phone does that.
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It doesn't happen to everyone. So we can't really talk about a design flaw in the software, otherwise it would affect every device. It's more like a random bug I guess.
As I said, when I got this device I successfully copied my files. Granted, it did seem to have missed a few files (2 Titanium Backup backuped files) and possibly more I did not notice so far.
I've noticed dodgy OTG on the O+5 never had it in a phone before
Because the copying is done by the operating system of your PC, shouldn't there be the problem? The phone is just connected by the internal storage as an external drive. Or is this a driver thing?
Pwnycorn said:
It doesn't happen to everyone. So we can't really talk about a design flaw in the software, otherwise it would affect every device. It's more like a random bug I guess.
As I said, when I got this device I successfully copied my files. Granted, it did seem to have missed a few files (2 Titanium Backup backuped files) and possibly more I did not notice so far.
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Well to me, bugs are inherently design flaws. lol But I don't want to argue semantics. I would just like to find a fix to this "design flaw"/bug. I can understand having a few files deleted or not transferred. But every single file that was selected, cut and pasted? That is just frustrating beyond belief. I just don't get why it does that to begin with. Never encountered this issue with any other phone I have done this same procedure with. I have no issues with transferring files from the pc to the phone. The problem is encountered when I am trying to do things with the internal storage. That is what is confusing me.
@strider5236, tried doing it again on decrypted data using Windows 10 and and Ubuntu 14.04. Moved with no issues. Encrypted data then did it again. No issues still.
Have you tried flashing the userdata image like I initially suggested?
sufoalmighty said:
@strider5236, tried doing it again on decrypted data using Windows 10 and and Ubuntu 14.04. Moved with no issues. Encrypted data then did it again. No issues still.
Have you tried flashing the userdata image like I initially suggested?
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Can that be done on a stock, non rooted phone? If so, how do I go about that? Would odin be needed?
strider5236 said:
Can that be done on a stock, non rooted phone? If so, how do I go about that? Would odin be needed?
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LOL. No, we aren't using a Samsung device. I'll send you the steps in a PM.
sufoalmighty said:
LOL. No, we aren't using a Samsung device. I'll send you the steps in a PM.
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That would be great thank you.
There seems to be a bug in the Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) between Android and Windows 10. It loses files while copying.
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