Project Butter, & still 'Google Now' still CHOPPY. - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Nexus 4 is great, Project Butter does it job quite well. But...
I saw many videos of Google Now, where they ask queries by voice and it delivers answers as a card.
But when Card appear from bottom, the animations are so CHOPPY, they skip frames, even when Project Butter promises 60FPS or whatever.
Even with Quad Core latest processor and 2 GB RAM.
I mean what the hell, does Android want to be smooth.??? Why Google hasn't learnt yet.
SIRI also has some card appearing from bottom of screen, I have also seen its videos and they never appear to be choppy.
This is one thing, why I'm still not yet fully into buying Android as my next phone.

Don't buy Android then, no-one is forcing you.
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steviewevie said:
Don't buy Android then, no-one is forcing you.
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Ohhh. I came here to get an answer but just fired up at me.

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, I see no lag.

You came to get a answer to does android want to be smooth and why hasn't Google learned yet? Those are your two dumb questions.

Dude if you're gonna complain at least do it about not having enough cards or something not the way it kinda drags coming up that's just childish its an animation !
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OK, Got it. Moderator, if you can please delete this topic. Please delete this topic.

I think it's a valid point. Google Now performs like a dog. Searches are much faster when I just launch chrome.

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Anyone not happy with text render time after zooming?

In my opinion, there is too much of a delay rendering the text (focusing/unblurring it) after a zoom or scroll is made.
I say this comparing to a Tegra 2 phone, so there is no way this is slower. Even at 1.6ghz it is still awkwardly slow.
Considering this tablet is pretty much made for reading text/ web browsing that seems like a poor effort.
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Mungulz said:
In my opinion, there is too much of a delay rendering the text (focusing/unblurring it) after a zoom or scroll is made.
I say this comparing to a Tegra 2 phone, so there is no way this is slower. Even at 1.6ghz it is still awkwardly slow.
Considering this tablet is pretty much made for reading text/ web browsing that seems like a poor effort.
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Get over it, or try a new app. Or RMA it like everyone else over the slightest thing. I swear if people cared as much about how their countries were run as they do over this stuff, the world would be much better.
commonsense. said:
Get over it, or try a new app. Or RMA it like everyone else over the slightest thing. I swear if people cared as much about how their countries were run as they do over this stuff, the world would be much better.
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Cool, I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand I paid money for a device I expect to function in a proper manner.
I'm not being unreasonable, I have a Tegra 2 phone, as I said. There is no way that a Tegra 3 tablet should be any slower (significantly).
I also have no idea if other people are experiencing it or not, or maybe there's a fix I don't know about? Your trolling isn't helping anyone.
If I was given the tablet for free, of course I wouldn't be complaining, as it stands now though, a product I paid money for is not working as I would expect it to.
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Cool, I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand I paid money for a device I expect to function in a proper manner.
I'm not being unreasonable, I have a Tegra 2 phone, as I said. There is no way that a Tegra 3 tablet should be any slower (significantly).
I also have no idea if other people are experiencing it or not, or maybe there's a fix I don't know about? Your trolling isn't helping anyone.
If I was given the tablet for free, of course I wouldn't be complaining, as it stands now though, a product I paid money for is not working as I would expect it to.
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Moonreader renders fast for PDF files etc, and I see no problems using dolphin browser. Try switching apps or power settings.
A lot of apps need to be updated to work well with the new OS release as well don't forget, or this tablet specifically.
It is probably the app your using and whether the text is local or online like a website.
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player911 said:
It is probably the app your using and whether the text is local or online like a website.
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I mean in chrome. Sorry for not making that clear.
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Yeah I feel you on that, seems to render it a little slow. On my iPhone it seems as if everything renders at once and when I zoom in its already there, wonder if the nexus does/tries to do something similar. Books read fine, its the chrome zoom that messes up on me too.
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[Q] Still have universal search?

Hey folks! After searching I found nothing, so here we go!
I am still considering buying a nexus 7, but something has been prying on my mind: when Google removed the universal search from the galaxy nexus, did they also remove it from the nexus 7? I had a galaxy tab 2 that Samsung did this to, and was kinda a bummer since I really like the feature! So does the nexus 7 have universal (I.e. being able to search on-device as well as internet) search?
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Nope, it's here, at least in cm10 that is. Nice to see you here ijimaniac . Buy this tablet, you won't regret it. My TF has become a glorified gaming console since I got this (as I don't have enough space on the N7 to keep a ton of games), and although I had to originally RMA it (and got a b60 while before I had a b70, go figure) due to light bleed, this tab is amazing, and I am normally pretty judicial when it comes to devices.
I can confirm that my stock 4.1.1 Nexus 7 does indeed have universal search functioning properly.
It sure does, it works differently though. It shows your Apps, then you swipe across and it shows you web results, then another swipe will bring up, for example, videos etc. So it doesn't show them all at the same time.
It still shows contacts and things from other apps which is the most useful part.
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Nope, it's here, at least in cm10 that is. Nice to see you here ijimaniac . Buy this tablet, you won't regret it. My TF has become a glorified gaming console since I got this (as I don't have enough space on the N7 to keep a ton of games), and although I had to originally RMA it (and got a b60 while before I had a b70, go figure) due to light bleed, this tab is amazing, and I am normally pretty judicial when it comes to devices.
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Hey han, thanks! Weird that the one question I ask in the n7 thread is answered by a galaxy player comrade.
Thanks every one for answering!
I'll probably be joining you all on the n7 as soon as I can!
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Hey han, thanks! Weird that the one question I ask in the n7 thread is answered by a galaxy player comrade.
Thanks every one for answering!
I'll probably be joining you all on the n7 as soon as I can!
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Happy to help, the one day I decide to peruse the N7 q/a (SUPER bored this Saturday and just crashing), and I found you. Good luck with the nexus, you won't regret it,
If you are still deliberating I cN recent getting one. Sooooooo good in every way. hardware is very impressive. Build quality, and and user experience. I usually root and unlock every android device I get as I'm used to the rom being uncomfortably laggy. this usually results in life long rom flashing back and forth from different roms never really feeling happy.
This just isn't the case with theN7 the rom is smooth fast and responsive even when hammering several big operations.
Pretty much what in getting at is that you need to go buy one if you haven't already
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Official Facebook App

I know a lot of people complain about the official Facebook app, slowing down their phone. I just wanted to inform people that that is not the case for me. Simply because I don't have an account or the app.
Onto more relevant stuff: Under the Hood: Dalvik patch for Facebook for Android and Koush does a quick explanation. For those that have the time and curiosity, read the comments on Koush's post. Very enlightening.
Quite an interesting read. Thanks for the links pons.
The slowness is also a reason I switched to the app tinfoil.
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I tried atrium, it was supposedly the top alternative in an article I read but was an immediate failure because it couldn't find a friend.
I would certainly like to know exactly what purpose the face book app has taking up 17mb on my precious dinc fresh off the market. I've seen it swell in excess of 40 mb with heavy use. Get outta here! It seems completely absurd and a bit arrogant of the Facebook corporation to clog up everyone's devices and hide god knows what kind of unpublished ill will in the code.
I wish someone would reverse engineer or whatever so we know why it is so big.
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zombolt said:
I tried atrium, it was supposedly the top alternative in an article I read but was an immediate failure because it couldn't find a friend.
I would certainly like to know exactly what purpose the face book app has taking up 17mb on my precious dinc fresh off the market. I've seen it swell in excess of 40 mb with heavy use. Get outta here! It seems completely absurd and a bit arrogant of the Facebook corporation to clog up everyone's devices and hide god knows what kind of unpublished ill will in the code.
I wish someone would reverse engineer or whatever so we know why it is so big.
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Exactly, I uninstalled it and now I use greenify to free up ram. I'm still looking for a viable upgrade to the DInc. :/
DNA is locked, s4 doesnt have much development going on, s3 is old hardware, htc one has no menu button, removable battery, OR sdcard...I wish verizon would have gotten the nexus 4. :crying:

[Q] Galaxy S4 - excellent choice!

I've had my first S4 for 7 days. Needed 3 hard resets in the first week - UI freezes, hangs etc. Took it back to Telstra, confirmed bad hardware and gave me a new phone. Second handset has been fantastic - fast, smooth, stable.
Most Samsung features work pretty well - drama shot for junior sports coaching is an excellent idea. Love the fact that I can upgrade storage via SD card, link with Dropbox and can swap the battery for higher capacity if needs be. No need as yet - heavy use and my battery lasts more than 10 hours.
If you experience any interface issues, get the handset swapped: probably just a rare lemon. Thanks to everyone who responded on this thread.
Initial issues: features are unstable (gestures, air view, smart scroll, interface and keyboard hangs).
Now I definitely don't regret this new phone having used many different types over the years (Blackberry, HTC TiTan Windows mobile, iPhone 3, iPhone 4, now Android).
Send it back to Telstra for a replacement
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went in to Telstra today - they confirmed something wrong with the old handset, so got myself a new handset. will see how this one performs.
LOL, a new sd card won't enhance performance btw...
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Hangs for me too on the AT&T S4, stock rom, unrooted.
mart-xda said:
went in to Telstra today - they confirmed something wrong with the old handset, so got myself a new handset. will see how this one performs.
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Should be fine. No issues what so ever with mine on Optus - rooted and remove all Optus craps.
Of course it will. When you have all your music, pictures and some data sitting on a slow device (like an old sd card), then indexing slows down (picture gallery, videos, music. map data). Like any IT system, a fast phone will be slowed down by the slowest link - if that bottleneck is the sd card, then it needs to be remediated.
That is the reason why I did not get the S4. To new technology for me to mess with.
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Good news so far - the new handset is working nicely, no hangups/freezes as yet. :thumbup:
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mart-xda said:
Good news so far - the new handset is working nicely, no hangups/freezes as yet. :thumbup:
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If this is the case then please change the title of your thread, this distracts new users or get this thread close ASAP.
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Akhil said:
If this is the case then please change the title of your thread, this distracts new users or get this thread close ASAP.
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Will definitely update the thread title to more accurately reflect my experience with the device. But surely I need more than 3 hours for the device to prove itself??
Flash performance, and SW performance degrades over time, so I'm giving this phone 48 hours to prove it's stable, before changing my mind.
I'm not convinced yet, but at least the signs are positive in the first 3 hours.
Akhil said:
If this is the case then please change the title of your thread, this distracts new users or get this thread close ASAP.
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Of course I will, once satisfied this was just a bad piece of hardware one-off. But performance degraded over time, I will post updates over the weekend and hopefully change this title to "satisfied" on Sunday (ie 48 hours to ensure it was just an anomaly)
Yep, i think you got a lemon
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Akhil said:
If this is the case then please change the title of your thread, this distracts new users or get this thread close ASAP.
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24 hours after exchanging the handset, I must say this one is much more stable and I have confidence in my choice again.Hopefully it continues to please and there's no freeze. 24 hours now of smooth use, no hangups/freezes.
But, the native email app crashes every now and then, only while checking Exchange emails. Anybody else seeing that?
mart-xda said:
24 hours after exchanging the handset, I must say this one is much more stable and I have confidence in my choice again.Hopefully it continues to please and there's no freeze. 24 hours now of smooth use, no hangups/freezes.
But, the native email app crashes every now and then, only while checking Exchange emails. Anybody else seeing that?
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Product of China LOL. Just kiddin.
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GT-i9500 do not by this pc of crap
worst in a history
freezing, overheating , restart this **** cost $700
kiss may back Samsung with your Exynos flag on your hand
DO NOT BY Galaxy S4 PHONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
devles said:
worst in a history
freezing, overheating , restart this **** cost $700
kiss may back Samsung with your Exynos flag on your hand
DO NOT BY Galaxy S4 PHONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Return it. With new technology comes unseen problems.
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mart-xda said:
I've had my first S4 for 7 days. Needed 3 hard resets in the first week - UI freezes, hangs etc. Took it back to Telstra, confirmed bad hardware and gave me a new phone. Second handset has been fantastic - fast, smooth, stable.
Most Samsung features work pretty well - drama shot for junior sports coaching is an excellent idea. Love the fact that I can upgrade storage via SD card, link with Dropbox and can swap the battery for higher capacity if needs be. No need as yet - heavy use and my battery lasts more than 10 hours.
If you experience any interface issues, get the handset swapped: probably just a rare lemon. Thanks to everyone who responded on this thread.
Initial issues: features are unstable (gestures, air view, smart scroll, interface and keyboard hangs).
Now I definitely don't regret this new phone having used many different types over the years (Blackberry, HTC TiTan Windows mobile, iPhone 3, iPhone 4, now Android).
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in my sammy experience u will live with all of that bugs until sell it to get new phone Unfortunately :|
thr s just one way to enjoy stronge hardware of samsung > use another software; change rom and kernel
so u must forget about all smart feature, that best of them are motions. But u will have fast phone without any lag
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Giving up on Google

6 devices and 6 returns
GPS, bad pixels, multitouch... They all came from different factories and they were all crap
I've had enough... Sticking with my OG Nexus and when ipad mini retina comes out, if it has GPS I am switching.
Anyone else with me? What will you be waiting for / going to in the meantime? ¢
I have the GPS issue which is likely software. Other than that my new n7 is perfect. I'll wait for the GPS fix and until then use my One for GPS.
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derekedw said:
I have the GPS issue which is likely software. Other than that my new n7 is perfect. I'll wait for the GPS fix and until then use my One for GPS.
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If GPS was a software issue, wouldn't everyone be suffering from it? Using GPS test, I am currently connected to 15/23 satellites, and it's got my current location accurate to 3 meters. I haven't had any GPS issues whatsoever, not that I use my tablet for GPS ever, but I tested it extensively after reading so many problems.
I never do this. IRL I'm a really nice guy, but for frack's sake, can we keep all these "Google/Asus/Android sucks" posts on one thread? That way all the whining can stay in one place. Maybe even make it a sticky (like people actually read those). I know I can avoid reading them, but there is a point when enough is enough. They are cluttering up the freaking forum.
I know you are frustrated and may have a legitimate complaint, but man....
P.S. Feel free to post on the other similar threads, and you may find helpful suggestions on what other users will be switching to. Unless the main reason for this thread was to have your name on the OP. Then I can't help you. That's an "i" generation problem.
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Semantics said:
If GPS was a software issue, wouldn't everyone be suffering from it? Using GPS test, I am currently connected to 15/23 satellites, and it's got my current location accurate to 3 meters. I haven't had any GPS issues whatsoever, not that I use my tablet for GPS ever, but I tested it extensively after reading so many problems.
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When I restart my 7 I get great GPS for a few minutes and then no SATs... Sounds like software to me... Google has acknowledged and I'll wait for a determination.... If it's a hardware fault, I feel for Asus because Google will force their hand.
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See ya
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Really? You might have OCD...
Not once in my life have I gotten a device that wasn't perfect....I think you ppl who come here and cry are liars. You prolly don't even own the device.
Nexus - n4 perfect.
Nexus - 7 2013 perfect.
No issues. Goggle can't take my money fast enough..
Semantics said:
If GPS was a software issue, wouldn't everyone be suffering from it? Using GPS test, I am currently connected to 15/23 satellites, and it's got my current location accurate to 3 meters. I haven't had any GPS issues whatsoever, not that I use my tablet for GPS ever, but I tested it extensively after reading so many problems.
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I don't think the issue is connecting but the connection sporadically dropping when connected for an extended period of time.
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bye!
Not sure how this is Google's fault when Asus made the device.
Enjoy your iCrap :what:
>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
Artood2s said:
I never do this. IRL I'm a really nice guy, but for frack's sake, can we keep all these "Google/Asus/Android sucks" posts on one thread? That way all the whining can stay in one place. Maybe even make it a sticky (like people actually read those). I know I can avoid reading them, but there is a point when enough is enough. They are cluttering up the freaking forum.
I know you are frustrated and may have a legitimate complaint, but man....
P.S. Feel free to post on the other similar threads, and you may find helpful suggestions on what other users will be switching to. Unless the main reason for this thread was to have your name on the OP. Then I can't help you. That's an "i" generation problem.
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If the device performed it's most basic functions adequately, the forum wouldn't be full of complaints.
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Really? You might have OCD...
Not once in my life have I gotten a device that wasn't perfect....I think you ppl who come here and cry are liars. You prolly don't even own the device.
Nexus - n4 perfect.
Nexus - 7 2013 perfect.
No issues. Goggle can't take my money fast enough..
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Liar? do you need to see the receipts? I have nothing to prove to you... I exchanged 6 devices from Staples, and Walmart and all had issues. Liars? I guess the loads of people posting threads here and google product forums, android central, those people are all liars too?
DowntownJeffBrown said:
Not sure how this is Google's fault when Asus made the device.
Enjoy your iCrap :what:
>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
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I don't like Apple either... I have been the number one fan of Google and Android... I have converted my family and friends not only to the Android platform, but to the whole Google "OS".
I think my problem is really more than just this Nexus 7 FHD... I have issues with Google as a whole.
first was destroying Google Reader
then destroying gmail with horrible UI
destroying talk app, replacing with dumbed down "hangouts"
destroying google maps, can't find alternate routes, dumbed down features again..
dismantle latitude to force us to use the horrible Google+ facebook knockoff platform when I have NO interest in social media
I really hate the direction the company is going. It seems I have no choice, no alternative though. iOS is just a device, not a platform... there is no compelling argument to invest myself into their whole mantra... Microsoft makes cool stuff but it is far from a platform.
I really just miss the old Google... and hate this new one. Google used to innovate, not copy others and deliberately dismantle things that work beautifully already.
Sorry if I seem like I'm just complaining to complain.... but I really am fed up and not sure how to move forwards in the absence of the old Google.
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iOS is just a device, not a platform...
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Have to correct you - iOS *is* a platform. Android is also a platform, not a device.
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berardi said:
6 devices and 6 returns
GPS, bad pixels, multitouch... They all came from different factories and they were all crap
I've had enough... Sticking with my OG Nexus and when ipad mini retina comes out, if it has GPS I am switching.
Anyone else with me? What will you be waiting for / going to in the meantime? ¢
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Yep... I'm with you as well, I went through two of them.
Every ASUS device I have gotten has been complete S&%# (Transformer Prime, TF700, that "budget" windows 8 one).
I am boycotting ASUS and am waiting to see an HTC tab or the iPad Mini like you (I don't count Samsung, I HATE Touchwiz ) So... yeah.
Only GPS problems here..... Otherwise it perfect.....
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Well from what I've heard from a friend who works for Apple in the mall, there most likely not be a ipad mini with retina display.
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Android is becoming what Windows is now. Completely fragmented and the hardware is obsolete within 6-9 months. Full of exploitable holes. And hardware makers that charge a premium for mediocre devices. Cheap devices that are complete junk.
Unless Google reigns in the manufacturers more fragmentation will keep happening.
Like many of you I love my phone but hate all the crap that the cell companies pack in
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I just bought a previously opened Nexus 7 2013 from Staples and the thing is still perfect. I love this thing, it's the best $229 I've ever spent (price matched from Google Play). As to GPS problems, I'm getting a fix in GPS Status and Tools from my basement.
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Cool.
Get the **** outta here
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ogeretla said:
Only GPS problems here..... Otherwise it perfect.....
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Only? I don't understand how people are content to deal with widespread malfunctions.
"I bought a new car but the windows won't roll down, but it's OK, the AC works great!!"
bullriders said:
Android is becoming what Windows is now. Completely fragmented and the hardware is obsolete within 6-9 months. Full of exploitable holes. And hardware makers that charge a premium for mediocre devices. Cheap devices that are complete junk.
Unless Google reigns in the manufacturers more fragmentation will keep happening.
Like many of you I love my phone but hate all the crap that the cell companies pack in
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Yep... Google is making horrible decisions lately. I was the biggest Google and Android fanboy around. Google has broken every beautiful thing it has made in my opinion.
dillinjer said:
I just bought a previously opened Nexus 7 2013 from Staples and the thing is still perfect. I love this thing, it's the best $229 I've ever spent (price matched from Google Play). As to GPS problems, I'm getting a fix in GPS Status and Tools from my basement.
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All 8 (yeah, I bought 2 more today and they both were bad as well, looks like 1 was previously returned too) of the devices I bought worked great standing still. It's when you try to navigate anywhere they become bricks.
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Cool.
Get the **** outta here
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you are SOOO intelligent... keep munching that mercury filled corn syrup my friend..
If you return a device 3 times and you keep having the same issue, why would you keep getting the same device?
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