I know a lot of people complain about the official Facebook app, slowing down their phone. I just wanted to inform people that that is not the case for me. Simply because I don't have an account or the app.
Onto more relevant stuff: Under the Hood: Dalvik patch for Facebook for Android and Koush does a quick explanation. For those that have the time and curiosity, read the comments on Koush's post. Very enlightening.
Quite an interesting read. Thanks for the links pons.
The slowness is also a reason I switched to the app tinfoil.
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I tried atrium, it was supposedly the top alternative in an article I read but was an immediate failure because it couldn't find a friend.
I would certainly like to know exactly what purpose the face book app has taking up 17mb on my precious dinc fresh off the market. I've seen it swell in excess of 40 mb with heavy use. Get outta here! It seems completely absurd and a bit arrogant of the Facebook corporation to clog up everyone's devices and hide god knows what kind of unpublished ill will in the code.
I wish someone would reverse engineer or whatever so we know why it is so big.
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zombolt said:
I tried atrium, it was supposedly the top alternative in an article I read but was an immediate failure because it couldn't find a friend.
I would certainly like to know exactly what purpose the face book app has taking up 17mb on my precious dinc fresh off the market. I've seen it swell in excess of 40 mb with heavy use. Get outta here! It seems completely absurd and a bit arrogant of the Facebook corporation to clog up everyone's devices and hide god knows what kind of unpublished ill will in the code.
I wish someone would reverse engineer or whatever so we know why it is so big.
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Exactly, I uninstalled it and now I use greenify to free up ram. I'm still looking for a viable upgrade to the DInc. :/
DNA is locked, s4 doesnt have much development going on, s3 is old hardware, htc one has no menu button, removable battery, OR sdcard...I wish verizon would have gotten the nexus 4. :crying:
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OK, I did search for this before I posted so I hope I don't get anybody mad for starting a new thread if this has been covered.
Regarding security threats and android phones. I did see the thread about a malware program out of Russia affecting android phones (installed via a movie program?). But in general, security issues do not seem to be a big issue.
The other threads I've found seem to have conflicting opinions.
So my question(s) is, how much do you all worry about security issues? Does anybody use Lookout (free mobile security app)? I did see that it has high ratings on the market, but I put more stock in what this community has for opinions than the market users.
Again, if this has been covered to death and I missed it, I apologize.
I do have concerns over security and therefore really don't install many apps. Since I have had an android phone, my gmail account has been compromised once, allowing spam to be sent from my gmail account and also spam to be placed on my Blogger site. While I cannot be certain it was something on my phone that allowed this, I rarely use my computer to access any of my Google apps. I also had never had issues with any email or other accounts being compromised for as long as I've had a computer. I also rarely get spam. So while I can't be certain, the fact it showed my account being logged into by a mobile device in Malaysia makes me very suspicious.
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Thanks for the reply. I take it you haven't used Lookout or any of the other security apps?
Lookout looks legit, but I am a little skeptical. Guess I'll wait and see if I get any other responses before I do anything with it.
I haven't tried it in the past, as I'm skeptical too. I went ahead and installed it though after my post just to see. It is now being installed by some of the carriers by default apparently and I guess has won some awards, so hopefully it's been poked at a bit by people to where it itself isn't a large threat. Figure if it doesn't impact performance a lot there can't be any harm in trying it. Now, as for how effective it really is, I'd imagine that's something many people will never know.
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Again, thanks for your input.
Performance impact is basically what I was worried about. I actually installed it the other day but when I realized it was on ALL the time, I uninstalled it before really giving it a chance.
I guess it's worth a shot. I'll install it again tonight and run a couple before and after quadrant benchmarks to see how much of an impact.
If I don't get anybody else posting here, I'll still post my experience in a couple/few days, so if you're interested, check back later in the week.
Thanks dpeeps, have a good one.
Paranoid much?
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Eric_1966_FXE said:
Thanks for the reply. I take it you haven't used Lookout or any of the other security apps?
Lookout looks legit, but I am a little skeptical. Guess I'll wait and see if I get any other responses before I do anything with it.
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seriously? lookout is featured in a Droid commercial for verizon. (i think its verizon anyhow)
i use it, i really haven't noticed any effect on the performance.
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Paranoid much?
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Not paranoid .... just cautious.
There is so much good information on this site that when I search for something that sounds too good (for free), and I can't find anything, yes, I'm going to "err on the side of caution".
ngholson, thanks for the input.
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ngholson, thanks for the input.
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you are welcome. i use it mostly for the lost feature. if i lose it i can activate the gps and locate it that way, and i can also make it scream (caution this is really loud, and the only way to stop it is a battery pull) if it is somewhere close to me. it is very effective.
EDIT: they changed the scream feature, now it will scream for 1 minute and you can stop it by turning the volume down on the phone.
Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
I may be wrong but... Evo is an Android phone... Android = Google. I don't think you'll have much luck getting a Google free Android phone.
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You know these are google/android forums right? I don't think it will be possible at all....
Do you want an aluminum foil hat with that ROM?
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Dude that will never happen. Thats all i have to say
Umm don't listen to anyone who previously posted. You could easily use CyanogenMod with out Google apps to do this. You would be missing the market and any standard app that has the word Google before it like Google maps, but I guess now you could use the Amazon market anyway.
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Actually i had a Samsung intercept that originally had Google android rom and ended up with a non-google phone in the end...... Accidentally flashed a radio from differnet phone and after no signs of Google ..... Or signs of really anything but made a great paper weight!
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Actually i had a Samsung intercept that originally had Google android rom and ended up with a non-google phone in the end...... Accidentally flashed a radio from differnet phone and after no signs of Google ..... Or signs of really anything but made a great paper weight!
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i dont think you understand what he means... im not a troll . but he said he doesnt want it to have google ,also for it to keep everything private... also look at my new signature LMFAO
sorry quoted wrong guy but yeah if he is lucky and doesnt brick.
how would this be possible ? dont you need a google account to even use the phone ? could probably be wrong.
josh995 said:
I may be wrong but... Evo is an Android phone... Android = Google. I don't think you'll have much luck getting a Google free Android phone.
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You think wrong.
knowledge561 said:
You know these are google/android forums right? I don't think it will be possible at all....
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You think wrong too.
tgruendler said:
Do you want an aluminum foil hat with that ROM?
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Will it match your dunce cap?
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Dude that will never happen. Thats all i have to say
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You are giving wrong info, that's all I have to say.
jvward said:
Umm don't listen to anyone who previously posted. You could easily use CyanogenMod with out Google apps to do this. You would be missing the market and any standard app that has the word Google before it like Google maps, but I guess now you could use the Amazon market anyway.
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Finally someone smart in this thread.
Any ASOP ROM which doesn't include GAPPS like cyanogyn mod or deck's ASOP rom will do this (minus the sms encryption) as long as you don't flash the GAPPS add ons or enable my location.
I really hate when people act like experts, but don't know what their talking about.
I don't think you're going to find this for the EVO, although I imagine there's a phone out there somewhere that you can accomplish this with.
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I don't think you're going to find this for the EVO, although I imagine there's a phone out there somewhere that you can accomplish this with.
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Wrong again, check my post immediately above yours.
mjs1231 said:
Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
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When you say free of google what do u mean?? Evo runs android, android is created by Google. There is no way you could have android without Google. If you mean Google apps, as someone else said just run cyanogenmod without GAPPS. You wont be able to do much, won't even be able to load apps that aren't preinstalled.
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You think wrong.
You think wrong too.
Will it match your dunce cap?
You are giving wrong info, that's all I have to say.
Finally someone smart in this thread.
Any ASOP ROM which doesn't include GAPPS like cyanogyn mod or deck's ASOP rom will do this (minus the sms encryption) as long as you don't flash the GAPPS add ons or enable my location.
I really hate when people act like experts, but don't know what their talking about.
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It wouldn't be anymore secure than the current version of Android being ran (which he mentioned and is apparently worried about).. but as far as all the 'monitoring and tracking' and what not, I mean, sure. But what would be the point? Seems like a pretty half assed Android experience.
There is only so much that can be done without the use of, say, GApps ... might get the job done but would essentially kill the idea of even owning said phone.
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bwcorvus said:
When you say free of google what do u mean?? Evo runs android, android is created by Google. There is no way you could have android without Google. If you mean Google apps, as someone else said just run cyanogenmod without GAPPS. You wont be able to do much, won't even be able to load apps that aren't preinstalled.
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Obviously the OS is made by Google, but I don't think that's what he meant. I think he means a rom which won't constantly sync with google's servers.
Also, you CAN sideload apps without market or GAPPS installed, the trick is just to find the .apk files somewhere other than google market, but most are on either amazon market or Edit, so again another WRONG piece of info given out here.
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It wouldn't be anymore secure than the current version of Android being ran (which he mentioned).. but as far as all the 'monitoring and tracking' and what not, I mean, sure. But what would be the point? Seems like a pretty half assed Android experience.
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Although I wouldn't do it myself, I can see the point. You would have way better battery life without the constant syncing. Also takes much less ram. Not everyone cares about sync with gmail, contacts, and calendar. Some just want a nice smooth OS. It would be more secure, because everything wouldn't go through google's servers.
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Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
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Seriously? This is like asking for the competitor iPhone and not wanting Apple to make it. If you didn't want a Google phone then why did you buy a phone with software developed by Google? Please don't tell me you Yahoo'd your phone. That would just be an Epic Fail!
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Seriously? This is like asking for the competitor iPhone and not wanting Apple to make it. If you didn't want a Google phone then why did you buy a phone with software developed by Google? Please don't tell me you Yahoo'd your phone. That would just be an Epic Fail!
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Actually it's more like having an iphone and not paying for mobile me. But in this case it's a better situation because you wouldn't have to register with google to get the apps (get them somewhere else as I suggested previously), like you would have to with apple.
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Although I wouldn't do it myself, I can see the point. You would have way better battery life without the constant syncing. Also takes much less ram. Not everyone cares about sync with gmail, contacts, and calendar. Some just want a nice smooth OS. It would be more secure, because everything wouldn't go through google's servers.
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I get the 'tracking' and what not ... but no one is really 'tracking' you. Recorded, maybe. But what does that even really matter in the end?
I get that you want to point out that it can be done, and others were wrong, but it was a silly question none the less.
And, sure, of course - less RAM. And no syncing? Could always disable. But freeing up RAM and what not? Running a smooth experience? It's not going to be that much smoother than should you elect to NOT use proprietary apps. It's not going to be a 'night and day' thing.
I'm more or less curious what the OP wants to do with his phone. Yeah, getting apps from other avenues is always a possibility ... sure. But getting apps from outside of the Market isn't going to offer less system stability, or smoothness, as opposed to getting them from the market.
Sure, I suppose it could be done ... but what are you trying to do? And, as said, it's only as secure as the latest version of Android ... which is constantly facing security issues.
It was sort of a silly post. Gotta admit that much.
I've been up late tonight, and just so happened to stumble across this article over at AndroidPolice. Figured it might interest some people here since it includes our phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...e-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/
Here's the thing, though. They recommend uninstalling the offending apk immediately, which I tried.....Unfortunately that gives me repeated force closes over and over and over while the system tries to run it, to the point where I had to restore to a backup. So what do we do about this?
UPDATE: You can remove HTCloggers.apk...all you have to do is restart afterwards.
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I've been up late tonight, and just so happened to stumble across this article over at AndroidPolice. Figured it might interest some people here since it includes our phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...e-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/
Here's the thing, though. They recommend uninstalling the offending apk immediately, which I tried.....Unfortunately that gives me repeated force closes over and over and over while the system tries to run it, to the point where I had to restore to a backup. So what do we do about this?
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Yes and no.
Yes because so many users run Sense.
No because I run AOSP.
Frankly, I wonder how many other serious flaws there are.
I can name several apps that want their hands on permissions they have no business in [Facebook for one]
Its like 1984 for sure. There's an article in the new section here at xda that talks about some of the other vulnerabilities as well.
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Thanks for sharing. Another reason why we root our phones
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Many devs remove these programs and such to remove ciq. I can't find the thread right now, but it reads just about everything. It's so deeply imbedded into the framework.
It reads every button you press on your keyboard.
Every text you send and receive.
Every app you use and download.
The pages you browse on using the internet browser.
It even goes as far to read any spot on your screen that you touch.
This is spyware to the extreme. Sprint and HTC will say its not "spyware" and say its used only for marketing to determine how phones are being used to further develop for the current trends in smartphones. It's very possible they could steal personal info with this. Is it currently happening? Uhh...probably not, but there will still be a lot of paranoia about it.
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Sounds like a really good reason to stay with AOSP to me...
very True Haha
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Some of us haven't forgotten the XCP rootkit that was on some Sony BMG titles in 2005... hope HTC doesnt suffer a similar demise like Sony eventually has of late.
This has been removed from MikG.
This is exactly why I'm AOSP. (that and sub-100MB ROM files)
I read the article too- (I have an Androidpolice/Android Central) feed in my Pulse reader....
I already knew CIQ and such were slimy embedded spyware...but the Treve app- spotted stuff I hadnt deleted already... Sprint sent me a "letter" about bandwidth usage and We-KNOW-what-Your-Doing" ----
I'm not amused by HTC/Sprint's collusion... leaving our bottoms out there in the cold for anyone to do whatever with.....
I bet even money my phones been cloned... sometimes I can't use it for calls .. recently -and I'd not had a single missed call or problem in a year.
I'm not a happy camper.. worried about my credit card #'s and really really am annoyed by HTC sliming us this way...
to the tune- that it'll be an icey cold day in hell before I'd consider buying another HTC phone for anyone in my family- (my family has 3 Evo 4g)...
We are not amused.....
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Sounds like a really good reason to stay with AOSP to me...
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AMEN
it appears to me that this file has already been removed from MikFroyo. At least, I can't find it...
BTW, you can just remove it using TIbackup, but you'll have to restart to get rid of the repeated force closes. Simple fix, and I've done the same for CarrierIQ as well.
It was removed from sprint lovers rom as well... I couldnt find it at least
I removed HtcLoggers.apk from mine and after rebooting (force close loop) it seems to be working fine. However, is there an old log file still on the phone that can be read by some Spyware app that needs to be removed or does all this data need to come from the logger app itself? If there still is a log, I'm sure it has enough info to still steal my ESN and other stuff.
Wow! Glad I run custom ROMS
I just read today about the new SE Android put together by the NSA and was curious to know a little more about it, it sounds like an interesting project.
First I was wondering if any developers plan to put together ROMs for our phone using this and second, what would be the benefit, if any, for us using SE Android? Near as I can tell this is best for people that just want to click and download apps from the market without ever really finding out what they do, what info they access, etc... If that is truly the only benefit here then it seems like it's not really that interesting of a topic.
Any feedback from devs (or non-devs) would be appreciated, I am very curious.
From the SELinux Project Page
http://selinuxproject.org/page/SEAndroid
Techworld
http://news.techworld.com/security/3330932/nsa-releases-security-enhanced-version-of-android/
ZDNet
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/nsa-releases-security-enhanced-android-os/10108
I looked at XDA as well and it looks like there may be a ROM for the Thunderbolt as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447429
Sorry about not previously providing links. I just figured that devs would be more in the know than I and would have already heard if something was out there.
edit: looks like it's not actually a ROM for the thunderbolt yet, just talk of someone developing it at this point.
This should build just fine since we're cm7 official
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I'd be skeptical of anything from the NSA. It could make their job of "intercepting", 100% easier. That's not coming anywhere near anything I own.
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I'd be skeptical of anything from the NSA. It could make their job of "intercepting", 100% easier. That's not coming anywhere near anything I own.
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indeed. NSA. I uninstalled it, and got probs with sending sms, They simply don't send after uninstalling that seandroid app. There's that everending waving blue circle pointer. However, uninstalling got me rid of the grey triangle notification message called 'Detect information'.
anyone seen this message too ? What did you do to get rid of it ? OR what did you do to get rid of the app from NSA ?
ugothakd> This should build just fine since we're cm7 official
What on earth are you talking about. I don't see the OP mentioning in his post that he's using CM7 official. For sure I am not.
I liked in my old S2, and now I miss it in my S3.
Anyone knows why disappear?
Anyone know if you can get by S3? Anyone knows if there is another application that does the same?
I liked it and I felt comfortable with all the accounts of the various social networks in a list on a same screen ...
Flipboard is Ok, but is a different scope.
Thanks
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The applications that were used originally in it were likely seen as cumbersome as the actual apps provided better service and the same features. Why get two notifications of your friend tweeting you a message or liking the new picture you posted?
SNS is now used in a more native manner, such as face tagging in photos, etc. Just download the proper app and you won't miss the hub.
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The applications that were used originally in it were likely seen as cumbersome as the actual apps provided better service and the same features. Why get two notifications of your friend tweeting you a message or liking the new picture you posted?
SNS is now used in a more native manner, such as face tagging in photos, etc. Just download the proper app and you won't miss the hub.
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+1
There is absolutely no reason to miss it. Just make a good use of Google Play and you''ll find more good software...
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Ok guys, I'll investigate trying to do a good use of Google Play.
Any suggestion will be welcomed.
Many thanks.
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I liked in my old S2, and now I miss it in my S3.
Anyone knows why disappear?
Anyone know if you can get by S3? Anyone knows if there is another application that does the same?
I liked it and I felt comfortable with all the accounts of the various social networks in a list on a same screen ...
Flipboard is Ok, but is a different scope.
Thanks
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One cannot replace one thing had Social Hub: Push mail. In part, that was one of the reasons I selected and android phone instead of a Blackberry last year. Now Samsung removed it without prior notice to their buyers. After investing a good sum of money on getting a suposely better phone than my S2, I find Samsung fools their users into buying some cuted down version of software (and giving in replace the most useless piece of blotaware one can think of: S Suggest ! - I think it has to be some sort of joke)
Yep, I am very disappointed with Samsung.