The built-in GPS works fine with the map/GPS programs from Win8 Microsoft Store. I have several desktop map programs (e.g., MapPoint, Microsoft Streets 2013, OziExplorer, etc.) which look for a serial or USB port in order to talk to the GPS unit. Does anyone know how to get these programs talk to the internal GPS unit (e.g., COM port #, baud rate, etc.)? THANKS.
That information may be available in Device Manager. An alternative, somewhat silly but actually viable option: hunt up a copy of Hyperterm (or similar) and, assuming it runs on Win8 (I haven't tried), check your COM ports for GPS traffic and tweak the baud rate until it looks like NMEA (I assume that's what your software expects).
With that said, it's possible that the internal GPS doesn't use the standard ports at all, and instead just uses the new Windows Location APIs. That would probably mean you would need to write a cross-over program that uses the new APIs to retrieve the location, translates them into NMEA, and pushes them to a virtual COM port. Probably possible to write, but not trivial. I hope/assume that the Location framework can be used in desktop apps, but I haven't actually checked; Metro apps may not be able to access COM ports in which case you would need to write to some inter-process-accessible resource that can be reached from the AppContainer - a loopback network connection or possibly a file may be workable, I don't know if named pipes are reachable - and then a desktop application to connect the metro app to the virtual COM port. HUGE kludge, I know.
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That information may be available in Device Manager. An alternative, somewhat silly but actually viable option: hunt up a copy of Hyperterm (or similar) and, assuming it runs on Win8 (I haven't tried), check your COM ports for GPS traffic and tweak the baud rate until it looks like NMEA (I assume that's what your software expects).
With that said, it's possible that the internal GPS doesn't use the standard ports at all, and instead just uses the new Windows Location APIs. That would probably mean you would need to write a cross-over program that uses the new APIs to retrieve the location, translates them into NMEA, and pushes them to a virtual COM port. Probably possible to write, but not trivial. I hope/assume that the Location framework can be used in desktop apps, but I haven't actually checked; Metro apps may not be able to access COM ports in which case you would need to write to some inter-process-accessible resource that can be reached from the AppContainer - a loopback network connection or possibly a file may be workable, I don't know if named pipes are reachable - and then a desktop application to connect the metro app to the virtual COM port. HUGE kludge, I know.
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so there is no app that will work with the built in gps even for desktop mode? I tried Maps(that comes with windows 8) and only locates my ip not gps position
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I have the Pharos SD-iGPS hardware (SD card GPS)
It insist on installing to COM4
if it fails, like it does on my XDA II with 1.60 (COM4 = BT)
it reverts to "COM0"
this "COM0" is accessible via software (ZTERM)
but most GPS software can't find it (they are hard-coded COM1-9)
I've searched the SDGPS.DLL, and I can see it exports
COM_Close COM_Deinit etc ... a whole setup of COM io.
I hoped to find, hard-coded "COM4" but I've got no luck:-(
How do I proceed? this is a 19k driver inside s DLL.
Can I disassemble (which tool?) and find what syscall set for COM4?
Can someone tell me what I need to look for in Binary/Hex editor?
index?
Having looked at the way the PPC load devices,
I believe the answer is to add "Index 7" or something similar
to the resitry regarding this driver
\HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Custom\
MANF-0303-CARDID-0100-FUNC-1
It lists
DLL SDGps
Prefix COM
It is my understading that, "Index" provides the COM port#,
and by default it is the "next up".
The system uses COM1 - serial COM2-phone i/o COM3-InfraRed
so by default it should go to COM4
Yet this causes a problem (MS BUG?) with the COM4/COM5 for BT.
I will try to add to the above registry
Index 7
and see what happens ...
Did this work for you? If so, what registry key did you enter exactly?
Thanks,
Jon.
I've got a ppc-6601 (harrier) from Sprint and I'm trying to develop a program to use the location information - hopefully gps coords. Any idea on how to get that info? The program will basically be a location connector - converting phone location info to nmea sentences so any mapping program out there will be able to use the location info. The big question is, how do I get that info from the phone?
Is this a HTC product?
I once looked a (if I remember correctly) Swiss product that was able to show th current location based on the cell-info from the gsm radio.
The trouble seems to be that you need a map calibrated with gsm cell-info.
Remember: you wount get a more detailled specification of the location than approx. 200 metres.
I believe it's built by HTC, but branded by Audiovox. Sprint uses cdma, so the usual gsm location stuff isn't gonna work. Sprint uses the qualcomm/snaptrack technology - gpsOne. Sprint/Qualcomm got a java api out there for MIDP 2.0 phones, but I'm not sure if it'll work w/ ppc phones. This api gives you alot of info - including gps coords. http://www.shaftek.org/blog/archives/000139.html
So any ideas?
The carrier must have a location server online, currently Sprint and Verizon's LBS servers are not ready for point-to-point relay of LBS data.
An Australian based company has managed to extract this info from windows ce devices. From their web site (www.locatrix.com) it also seems as though this kind of service is supported on all mobile phones.
Pretty cool I thought.
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An Australian based company has managed to extract this info from windows ce devices. From their web site (www.locatrix.com) it also seems as though this kind of service is supported on all mobile phones.
Pretty cool I thought.
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Uh, no. That program relies on tracerouting your IP address, and, if available, using their proprietary LBS API that if you want to route into GPSOne, you get to do on your own.
No, it doesn't use traceroute. I've got an i-Mate device here on Vodafone determining location to within 100m. The external API is for other/desktop applications (such as CRM, field management, mapping etc) that may wish to display the device's location.
Friends of mine have also tried their clients for Blackberry and Symbian OS with similiar results...
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No, it doesn't use traceroute. I've got an i-Mate device here on Vodafone determining location to within 100m. The external API is for other/desktop applications (such as CRM, field management, mapping etc) that may wish to display the device's location.
Friends of mine have also tried their clients for Blackberry and Symbian OS with similiar results...
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Well, on the GSM side it has more options (I was referring to the Harrier and CDMA), such as locating the location of the tower and using signal fade information to make a best-guess estimate. Depending on where you live, and how close towers are spaced, it can get pretty close.
Hello.
I am trying to develop an application that allows multiple applications to access GPS co-ordinates from TOMTOM. I have the tomtom control that allows other applications to get the gps location. I was hopnig to create virtual com ports on the PPC and send the gps location to the virtual com port.
Does anyone know how tyo create a virtual com port on the ppc using EVB, or does anyone have a control to create one that I could use.?
Hiya,
Although I don't know how to create what you asked, there is a product called GpsGate that already does what you've just said:
http://franson.com/gpsgate/index.asp?
You may find it easier/quicker to just purchase theirs than write your own (Pricing = USD $15 to $30 depending on version) but obviously that's your choice.
I use it to share my GPS between TomTom and WiFiFoFum and works perfectly!
Cool - I've just had a lok it looks fine, I'll try it out for a few days - Thanks
I'm looking for a way to disable some superfluous com ports in order to increase the number of free ports (for incoming bluetooth devices); mainly the infrared port which i have never used so far.
I think i saw something about that somewhere but a google search does not give any results.
does anyone know?
cheers
You can take thier driver entries out of the registry, then they'll never be loaded. Check out HKLM\drivers\builtin and just delete keys that you don't need. Of course that all goes away after a hard reset....
BTW, why do you need to do this? As I understand it, the bluetooth chipset monitors connected devices completely independently from the COM port setup. The number of COM ports on your device shouldn't limit the number of bluetooth devices you can manage. And I think there is a max of like 7 BT devices you can have connected. Maybe I'm wrong... goodluck!
You can take thier driver entries out of the registry, then they'll never be loaded. Check out HKLM\drivers\builtin and just delete keys that you don't need. Of course that all goes away after a hard reset....
BTW, why do you need to do this? As I understand it, the bluetooth chipset monitors connected devices completely independently from the COM port setup. The number of COM ports on your device shouldn't limit the number of bluetooth devices you can manage. And I think there is a max of like 7 BT devices you can have connected. Maybe I'm wrong... goodluck!
Yo!
This may be related to something called 'Ghosted' or hidden ports...
(read this: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;315539)
The MS site above basically says to do this:
Right-click My Computer.
Click Properties.
Click the Advanced (tab).
Click the Environment Variables (tab).
Set the variables in the System Variables box. Click New: Variable name: devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices, Variable Value: 1
Reset PC.
++++++++++++++
Now to delete those nasty COM ports (now that we can SEE THEM!!!)...
Right Click 'My Computer' -> Properties, Hardware Tab -> Device Manager.
View -> Show Hidden Devices
You can now expand the 'Ports(COM & LPT)' tree and see all those extra nasty COM ports: Right click & select 'uninstall' to remove each individually.
Et Viola?
Andy
@awm129,
You would want to do this if you're trying to ActiveSync using BT: There is a 'bug' (restriction?) in AS that means that you can only use COM ports in the range of COM0 to COM9 - Now if your PC that can use COM1 to COM255 (which, stupidily enough, can only assign itself sequential port numbers) is stuck at say COM17, you're buggered (Like I was)!
Now if you think I spouting crap then GREAT - I would love for you to say 'Andy dude, you're spouting crap mate, let me educate you'... :wink:
I say this because a mate of mine said that you >don't< have to match COM ports - i.e. think real world - Just because COM ports on the back of devices are numbered differently, doesn't mean you can't connect them together... The jury's out on this one :?
Andy
Aren't you guys getting confused - I think he's talking about COM ports on his Universal, not on his PC...
Cheers,
Steve.
Searched all forums for ( GSP , Comports, Multple, split comport, duplex )
I have no troubles using any GPS app on my Universal (MDA Pro)
However, using...... GPS gate (buyware)
....or the free GPS splitter that comes with
Microsoft Virtual Earth Mobile (freeware, GPS icon suddenly appears under settings-connections after install of Microsoft Virtual Earth Mobile,
....or app found at http://www.gpsmeter.com/ (browse to portsplitter)
i am still unable to successfully run two GPS apps at the same time.
Don't get me wrong, I DO succeed in getting two GPS apps READ the data.
Both apps will show connection , for instance TomTom together with my own app PocketReperion, but tried with Visualgpsce http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/ and a lot of other apps too.
Symptoms : Even though successfull in setting up various comsplitters to send data to 1 virtual port, and have multiple GPS application accessing them, I am unable to get that situation stable.
So the concept on a lot if ISO layers has been proven, why the hell doesn't it work for longer that say a minute, 4 minutes, not at all, 10 seconds...
It seems that most comsplit apps are rather "reset" intensive (tested on clean device) and even when it does work for a while something will lockup and a reset is again necessary.
Does anybody use the blue GPS icon (free after install virtual earth mobile) to split ports and if so what is your setup ?
Does anybody use GPSGATE to split ports and if so what is your setup ?
Does anybody use the PortSplitter linked to above..to split ports and if so what is your setup ?
Please share your thought and expierences with me as I really really want to solve this issue. Be it for my "own" app, but also for all the other ones out there.
GPS port splitting multiple GPS apps on 1 receiver
Small BUMP : Doesn't anyone use portsplitting in whatever form, or am I really the UeBerGEEK here ?
It Works !!
IT WORKS !!!! BUT YOU HAVE TO CREATE TWO VIRTUAL PORTS - USE PORTSPLITTER !!!
All I had to do is download http://www.gpsmeter.com/ portsplitter as discussed in the other threads, HOWEVER......
Instead of what manuals seem to say, even from other softwarez like GPSGate, create TWO or more VIRTUAL ports in PORTSPLITTER!! Connect each GPS app to a DIFFERENT VIRTUAL PORT.
Also, when pairing and configuring your GPS, try taking a high Comport like 9. Go down one if no success.
Then when configuring PORTSPLITTER, don't be alarmed that your COMPORT isn't in the drop down list, MANUALLY enter "COMx" without the usual ":" where x stands for a number..the high real COM portnumber you configured when pairing/setting up.
You must use your keyboard or the stylus to manually enter the Comport if it is not in your dropdown list in PORTSPLITTER..
for speedreaders :
install PORTSPLITTER http://www.gpsmeter.com
use highest physical COMport available to pair your GPS
Define TWO virtual ports (instead of what seems to be written everywhere or am I really lame?)
Connect each Application to different virtual ports
My setup on a T-Mobile MDA Vario II (with Cingular ROM)
Physical Port 9
Virtual Ports in PORTSPLITTER 4,8
Hardware COMport in PORTSPLITTER (COM9 had to manually enter it, it was unavailable from drop down.... .... ...)
TomTom Navigator mapped to virtual COM8 (Didn't show up in TOMTOM until PORTSPLITTER running and connected to GPS.. ..)
Reperion *sweet favorite GPS app" mapped to Virtual COMPort 4 (Reperion eats all ports, no problems there....)
Please o please report...