wondered if the possibility of sense 4 or xperia s rom in my defy the green lens?
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... the entire ROM is impossible Android is divided into layers and the lowest is directly related to the hardware, no matter what manufacturer, which adopts similar projects between the devices themselves but the hardware is always different.
There is a rom (out of XDA) that may be what you are looking for is called Jboogie 3 - Liquid ARC is not a Sony rom, only the visual changes to look like an Xperia ...
wondered if the possibility of sense 4 or xperia s rom in my defy the green lens?
sorry for bad english
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I don't think it is impossible, but it won't happen, at least not now for a few reasons.
Sense 4.0 is extremely difficult, there is a lot of trouble porting it to HTC devices because of the newer kernel and the general action of taking it to ICS. It took ages for DefyFroyoSense (a really old sense 2.0 + 2.2.1 rom for defy) to come together, and now it's been virtually abandoned because it is too hard to dev.
Plus, there aren't really a lot of people who are interested in Sense 4.0 in the defy forums at the moment. If it is a great hassle to port stock vanilla ICS (cm9, aokp and codename android), then you can bet it will be beyond a pain in the ass for sense. Sense in general is pretty much limited to HTC devices.
For Xperia, it isn't easy either. I guess you can port the UI and framework and all that **** but the whole rom... well let's not think about that. Again, it's ICS again, so yeah.
So.... yeah u get my point.
Oh yeah and your defy being a green lens isn't good either, especially if a GB motorola rom will be involved in a possible port. GG.
Hi All,
Sorry to post this query here, but i didn't find any suitable thread to put my post.
I am planning to buy a new phone so bit confused between Defy plus and Sony Neo-V. Like Defy plus because of its water and scratch resistant body. But after reading the dev forum i found that it will not have the complete ICS feature and Sony Neo-V already had an official ICS released.
Kindly suggest if any other phone is there with good feature and ICS support.
Thanks in advance.
obviously, one V is better
neo v has better processor, gpu, same size and resolution screen (but brighter and better), MUCH better software support, amazingly optimized stock roms, and its cyanogenmod supported (while the defy+ is not, at least not officially). basically, the only thing that you have with defy+ missing from the neo v, is the ip67 certificate. your choice.
sent from my cm7 defy...
Neo V
I love my defy but the locked bootloader is a pain. So if you want to use custom roms better go for the Neo V.
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neo v has better processor, gpu, same size and resolution screen (but brighter and better), MUCH better software support, amazingly optimized stock roms, and its cyanogenmod supported (while the defy+ is not, at least not officially). basically, the only thing that you have with defy+ missing from the neo v, is the ip67 certificate. your choice.
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I partially agree, TI omap chipsets are better than qualcomm in my opinion. For everything else Neo V is better.
Even a blind person will choose Neo V. Defy/Defy+ is gud but moto really sucks. Sony Ericsson phones are always gud bcoz 1.) official updates 2.) FXP team
If u still want to go with Defy+, u will surely feel like a handicapped in future.
The only bad that I see with Neo V is the ladies look
To summarize, Neo V scores more for official ICS. Even camera is better, if that matters to you..
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for your response. I have ordered my first android( Neo V) and eagerly waiting for the deliver.
Good choice
Never Buy A motorola in your life, i just got my defy broken since there is no battery fix for defy+ battery because BL is locked, sony gives you unlocked BL, Enjoy your new phone!!!!!!1
idoavni99 said:
Never Buy A motorola in your life, i just got my defy broken since there is no battery fix for defy+ battery because BL is locked, sony gives you unlocked BL, Enjoy your new phone!!!!!!1
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Can't get what you mean by broken defy with battery fix, but the locked BL is really a good thing when it comes for novice end-users.. It means no matter how bad you screwed it, there's a good chance you can bring it back to life..
Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above.
Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?
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Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?
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I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!
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I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!
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Thanks for the input. I absolutley ADORE my bravo... I currently have Quarxs 4.0 Installed and am happy with it. The only think I dislike about it is the camera... kinda wish it had flash and was 5mpx... that was the major reason for changing.
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However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena.
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Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!
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Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!
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I did not know that. Thanks! I agree on the better camera with flash though. If I took more pictures I would pick defy over bravo.
I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.
What do you think about Pimp My Rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
I've been using it without any issues and it has various init.d scripts and tons of other tweaks along with it. It's worked with each CM rom I've used, so I'm wondering if that will save you some work, rather than have you write all the scripts yourself.
That's my two cents. Good luck and thanks! You never fail to impress us!
Thanks!
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I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.
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Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!
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Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!
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Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.
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Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.
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Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.
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Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.
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I plan on it , but CM10 on the Bravo is gonna take a back seat for the moment. I've put 2+ weeks into getting it to function properly and haven't made any headway on it....I gotta get to updating PA since its starting to fall way behind. As is, the only way I can improve my Android knowledge is to get a uart board (for kernel debugging) and some books on C and Java. Merging code is one thing, writing it is a whole different story.
//Plus I only have one battery for two phones....Need to get another battery for my Bravo. Also, here's a pic of my Bravo so you all know what I've been working with for the past 6 months.
whats the difference between cloudy stock, g pro 2 and flex?
i know flex has a darker theme, but bar that. is there any features that make you want one over or the other or all mainly the same?
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whats the difference between cloudy stock, g pro 2 and flex?
i know flex has a darker theme, but bar that. is there any features that make you want one over or the other or all mainly the same?
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Basically:
CloudyStock = Optimized LG Stock ROM (Plain vanilla and optimized LG Rom)
Cloudy G Pro2 = Optimized G Pro 2 ROM (some stock apps and functions not present on other LG roms)
Cloudy Flex = Optimized LG Flex ROM (It has a dark interface due to the fact that the Flex has an AMOLED screen which benefits from a dark UI). * my favourite ROM *
Theres actually a third installment called Cloudy G3 which is basically an LG G3 ROM port.
Cheers!
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Basically:
CloudyStock = Optimized LG Stock ROM (Plain vanilla and optimized LG Rom)
Cloudy G Pro2 = Optimized G Pro 2 ROM (some stock apps and functions not present on other LG roms)
Cloudy Flex = Optimized LG Flex ROM (It has a dark interface due to the fact that the Flex has an AMOLED screen which benefits from a dark UI). * my favourite ROM *
Theres actually a third installment called Cloudy G3 which is basically an LG G3 ROM port.
Cheers!
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when you say optimized lg rom, what do you mean? does stock perform best? and also, i knew about G3 but the difference are plain obvious haha! im baffled about the difference between g pro 2,stock and flex. what features has g pro 2 got over stock? i tried searching and i find nothing, ive installed it and found nothing bar a new wallpaper? thanks for the reply by the way!
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when you say optimized lg rom, what do you mean? does stock perform best? and also, i knew about G3 but the difference are plain obvious haha! im baffled about the difference between g pro 2,stock and flex. what features has g pro 2 got over stock? i tried searching and i find nothing, ive installed it and found nothing bar a new wallpaper? thanks for the reply by the way!
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LG stock roms are awesome in general, but there's always room for improvement, starting from the de-bloating of carrier specific stuff and other optimizations throughout.
Quite honestly I recommend you to flash them all and try them for yourself. I don't recall the specific differences, but I did try them all, including CloudyG3, and found CloudyFlex the best of them.
Cheers!
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LG stock roms are awesome in general, but there's always room for improvement, starting from the de-bloating of carrier specific stuff and other optimizations throughout.
Quite honestly I recommend you to flash them all and try them for yourself. I don't recall the specific differences, but I did try them all, including CloudyG3, and found CloudyFlex the best of them.
Cheers!
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i cant do it, my head will hurt too much haha! im on G3 rom but im more than sure performance has dropped since stock. could be wrong buttt! ill stick with this rom until i get bored and ill try flex/gpro2.
thanks mate
Hello!
I'm not a ROM developer or porter, so I have no idea on how to proceed. Even if I had, I'd no idea on how to fix things if errors would come up. I even suspect that, being devices with different resolutions, I'd also have to optimise all the graphic resources to match the lower res. Also I suspect that the kock code has something to do with the kernel, rather than the base ROM.
My question is then the following: would it be possible to port LG G3's Optimus UI (Lollipop) on Nexus 4? I recently bought a LG G3 and my brother, whom I gave the Nexus 4, is literally drooling for this interface.
Thank you very much
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Hello!
I'm not a ROM developer or porter, so I have no idea on how to proceed. Even if I had, I'd no idea on how to fix things if errors would come up. I even suspect that, being devices with different resolutions, I'd also have to optimise all the graphic resources to match the lower res. Also I suspect that the kock code has something to do with the kernel, rather than the base ROM.
My question is then the following: would it be possible to port LG G3's Optimus UI (Lollipop) on Nexus 4? I recently bought a LG G3 and my brother, whom I gave the Nexus 4, is literally drooling for this interface.
Thank you very much
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Generally no. Most of these are dependent on the hardware. This is the reason you dont see TW roms or Sense roms on none HTC/Samsung devices.